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Mayor Filner may be ahead 2 to 1; the last two accusations (one made today, July 24) are weak. This doesn't mean people should put their money on Filner: as I have said repeatedly, with all Republicans, most Democrats, all the money and the mainstream press piling on him, he faces tough adversaries, no matter what the truth is. However, the two most recent accusations must be put under a microscope. Laura Fink, who runs a political consulting firm, says Filner patted her behind in 2005. It was clearly an example of Filner's acerbic wit. Somebody said Fink was "working her ass off for you," and Filner allegedly told her to turn around, patted her backside, and said, "See, it's still there." She registered her complaint and he apologized -- weakly, she says. This is hardly sexual harassment. Morgan Rose, a psychologist with the school district, said today that at a lunch in January 2009, Filner tried to kiss her more than once. If true, this certainly indicates that Filner has a problem that may have deep psychological roots, but this incident would not rise to the threshold of sexual harassment. I have not seen that Filner refused to stop when a so-called victim told him to stop. I don't see any quid pro quo -- somebody getting a promotion as a favor for sex, for example. Or, contrarily, somebody getting denied a promotion, suffering retribution, or getting demoted after resisting his advances or reporting his activities to authorities. In fact, sexual intercourse has not entered the discussion yet. In the case of Irene McCormack Jackson, Filner's lawyers should demand that these allegations be tried in court. Again, with all the guns aiming at him, Filner is an extremely long shot to survive. San Diegans are getting only one side of the story through the mainstream media. I suspect that much more will come out, and many of the claims will be false. Filner shows signs of instability in these matters. But he is no Anthony Weiner, who resigned from Congress after he was caught posting lewd material online, and has admitted that he continued doing it after his resignation. He says he is running for mayor. He clearly has a screw loose, and New York media are urging him to get out. At this point, Bob Filner is no Anthony Weiner.

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dwbat July 24, 2013 @ 2:54 p.m.

I found this definition of sexual harassment in an online dictionary: "Sexual harassment may be physical, such as kissing, hugging, pinching, patting, grabbing, blocking the victim's path, leering or staring, or standing very close to the victim. It may also be verbal, which may be oral or written and could include requests." Irene McCormack Jackson's complaints are not "weak" at all. They are indeed valid. RE: " San Diegans are getting only one side of the story through the mainstream media." Filner is refusing to talk to the media and explain his "side of the story" even though he's been asked continually to do so. The mayor's love affair with TV news cameras has suddenly changed.


Don Bauder July 24, 2013 @ 8:39 p.m.

dwbat: The weak allegations are the last two, in my judgment. McCormack Jackson's allegations are more detailed and seemingly more condemnatory, although I am concerned that she didn't report his alleged offenses earlier. Filner's lawyers should depose her. The mayor has that right -- if not obligation. Best, Don Bauder


aardvark July 24, 2013 @ 3:30 p.m.

Don: I respectfully disagree. The one who needs to be under the microscope is Filner. The last two women coming forward are just adding fuel to the fire that this behavior has been going on for quite some time. Notice that today, Filner hired another new chief-of-staff to replace the one that Laura Fink stated she notified of Filner's behavior in 2005. Could Filner be trying to distance himself from people who had/have first-hand knowledge of his behavior? (Which I doubt would do any good.)


Don Bauder July 24, 2013 @ 8:40 p.m.

aardvark: The departure of Filner's longtime aide after only two weeks in San Diego is definitely not good news for Filner, although the hiring of Burdick may be. Best, Don Bauder


Psycholizard July 24, 2013 @ 4:32 p.m.

Sexual harassment has a narrow legal definition, a woman judge ruled that Paula Jones' claim that Clinton exposed himself to her in a hotel room did not comprise sexual harassment even if true. Laws may differ. Contact alone proves nothing, a person entering a crowd for instance, gives implied consent to some touching. I don't know what the rules are for cocktail parties, but the described behavior is very normal where people are drinking as in the Laura Fink accusation. If the leading Filner from table to table Fink described was done in the old fashioned style, she perhaps implied consent to reciprocal touching. Dancing also implies some consent. There is nothing to the Fink claim that justifies turning over the City checkbook to Fink's client, Todd Gloria.


dwbat July 24, 2013 @ 4:58 p.m.

We noticed you didn't even mention Jackson's claims.


Psycholizard July 24, 2013 @ 5:07 p.m.

There is another thread about Jackson. Some of us are sceptics.


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 6:33 a.m.

dwbat: Jackson's claims will be heard in court unless Filner is forced to resign. Best, Don Bauder


Don Bauder July 26, 2013 @ 8:02 p.m.

dwbat: He has mentioned her claims before. Best, Don Bauder


Don Bauder July 24, 2013 @ 8:43 p.m.

Psycholizard. I tried to find Fink's client list this morning, although admittedly I spent little time on it. If she represents Todd Gloria, who is ambitious for the mayoral position, and is among those trying to get Filner to resign, then I think you can throw out Fink's allegations. She is conflicted. Best, Don Bauder


rdotinga July 24, 2013 @ 8:54 p.m.

She has email evidence from 2005. If the evidence is genuine, that outweighs any conflict. (Not that we know whom she represents.)


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 6:38 a.m.

Randy: Repeat: if indeed she represents Gloria, the media should hammer away at that. She is clearly conflicted no matter what emails she has. I haven't had time to research whether she represents, or has represented Gloria. Best, Don Bauder


rdotinga July 24, 2013 @ 6:40 p.m.

"Sexual harassment is unwelcome sexual physical or verbal conduct in the workplace. There are two categories of sexual harassment: Quid Pro Quo and Hostile Environment."


Fanny patting, as you so quaintly call it, Don, creates a hostile work environment in which women are degraded and treated as sexual objects. It is not acceptable in modern times.

If you can find a legal reference that says it is, please let us know.

Also: What non-consensual sexual behaviors would you consider inappropriate at work? One might assume you draw the line at quid pro quo but think anything else is fine.

As for Weiner: I'm not aware of his having done anything that wasn't consensual or subjects anyone to legal liability. Do you know differently?


Don Bauder July 24, 2013 @ 8:50 p.m.

Randy: Weiner allegedly showed off his genitals online, and after getting caught and resigning from Congress, did it again. In that case, resigning was the right thing to do, as would bowing out of the NY mayoral race. I don't know about the legality of what he did, but that's not the question. Best, Don Bauder


SurfPuppy619 July 25, 2013 @ 7:19 p.m.

"Fanny patting, as you so quaintly call it, Don, creates a hostile work environment in which women are degraded and treated as sexual objects. It is not acceptable in modern times. ... If you can find a legal reference that says it is, please let us know."

Bond, James Bond (and "man talk");



Don Bauder July 26, 2013 @ 8:06 p.m.

SurfPup: But was she an employee of Bond? Best, Don Bauder


dwbat July 24, 2013 @ 7:13 p.m.

Thanks for the link. Too many Filner apologists in this matter still don't get it regarding sexual harassment in current times. The "boys will be boys" behavior toward women in the workplace was outlawed sometime ago. Also, re the article statement "At this point, Bob Filner is no Anthony Weiner," I agree totally. Bob Filner is WORSE!


Don Bauder July 24, 2013 @ 8:54 p.m.

dwbat: Omigod. I don't see -- yet -- how anything Filner did can top what Weiner did. But maybe I belong to a different generation than you. Weiner's actions utterly repulse me. What Filner is alleged to have done is repugnant, but we must find out if the allegations are true. Due process leads one in that direction. Best, Don Bauder


rdotinga July 24, 2013 @ 9:31 p.m.

Again, it's the issue of consensual versus (alleged) non-consensual behavior. There is a giant difference that has nothing to do with generations (nor with how you somehow think hugging between friends has become verboten). It has to do with the appropriate and legal way to treat other human beings.


dwbat July 25, 2013 @ 1:53 a.m.

Thank you! That's it in a nutshell! And it is why Filner's deliberate bad behavior toward others IS worse than what Weiner did.


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 6:42 a.m.

dwbat: Filner's alleged behavior is worse than Weiner's? Same response as earlier: Omigod. Best, Don Bauder


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 6:41 a.m.

Randy: If a 9-year-old is exposed to Weiner's exposing of himself, that's consensual? Best, Don Bauder


JustWondering July 24, 2013 @ 7:26 p.m.

Don have to agree with Randy's comment above. And I'll have to add this..

Your age and attitude are showing. Offering your opinion, by "scoring" the value of the complaints is stepping over the line. While it certainly is your First Amendment right to comment as you see it you really need to educate yourself on the standards of sexual harassment in the 21st century.

As I mentioned in another thread, we ain't living in the 50's any longer. While behaviors such as those portrayed on AMC's Madmen television series were outwardly practiced then, they are totally unacceptable, as Randy put it, in these modern times.

Saying it's just Filner's "acerbic wit" is completely irrelevant in sexual harassment / hostile work environment cases. To imply his comments and or acts are forthright and honest is true spin of the facts, something paid apologist do. In addition, in these types of cases it is the VICTIM'S perception of the comment and or act that matters, NOT the perpetrator's mindset. Honest or not.

In the Fink incident it's obvious from the email to Filner's then Chief of Staff, Tony Buckles, she was not only embarrassed but humiliated by Mr. Filner's behavior and his fanny slapping act. Since the email took three days to compose I suspect she anguished over the act and sought counsel from her friends on how to handle it before demanding an apology in writing.

Finally, as the City's Chief executive it's his responsibity to enforce workplace rules. Especially ones regarding hostile work environments. In fact supervisors, managers, directors and department heads are held to a much higher standard in this area than rank and file employees. If Allred can prove through discovery that supervisory personnel and or managers were aware of Filner's predilection female body parts, and they failed to act, you might as well start lining up wheelbarrows full of taxpayer's cash.


Don Bauder July 24, 2013 @ 8:56 p.m.

JustWondering: The discovery process should be revealing in the McCormack Jackson case. Agreed. Best, Don Bauder


Don Bauder July 26, 2013 @ 8:09 p.m.

JustWondering: It sounds, then, like you agree with Randy that Weiner's actions are CONSENSUAL. But a 9-year old girl could come across Weiner's online photo of his genitals. I don't believe that is consensual. Randy hasn't answered me on that. Perhaps you could. Best, Don Bauder


rdotinga July 24, 2013 @ 7:50 p.m.

There's been a lot of discussion online about whether this qualifies as a "sex scandal." It does to me, but the more relevant issue is the distinction that people bring up: consensual vs. non-consensual.

A Weiner-type sex scandal (which appears to be about consensual activity) has to do with judgement.

A sexual harassment scandal has to do with inappropriate work activities, power dynamics and legal liability. Plus judgment.


Don Bauder July 24, 2013 @ 8:58 p.m.

Randy: One thing about Weiner that you have not brought up is that he exposed himself, deliberately, to any number of people online. This may have included very young people. Best, Don Bauder


historymatters July 24, 2013 @ 8:24 p.m.

This whole case is very very weak. The 3rd victim sounds like a bad date. can I tell you how many guys I have hung out with who played that "give me a kiss" game? Who cares....it does NOT mean he has deep psych problems. if he does then almost all guys do. This case is falling apart and people HAVE to be patient. let it fall apart.

If Filner steps down the consequences will be HUGE!!! he has been an excellent mayor much to my surprise and we have to fight like hell to keep him.

He has angered the interests on BOTH sides because he works FOR US!!!

and that is a beautiful thing!


Don Bauder July 24, 2013 @ 9:08 p.m.

historymatters: If Filner steps down, San Diego will be known as a city that forced a mayor to resign by piling on unproven allegations. That will be bad for San Diego's reputation, at least among those who appreciate due process. Incidentally, above I responded to a reader who said that Fink has Todd Gloria as a client. I don't know if that is true, but if it is, her allegations can be thrown in the wastebasket. Best, Don Bauder


Yankeedoodle July 24, 2013 @ 9:57 p.m.


Are we not already known for that?


Don Bauder July 24, 2013 @ 10:04 p.m.

Yankeedoodle: Unfortunately, San Diego has a reputation for city hall mismanagement and corruption, downtown overlord autocracy, bad mainstream media, and many other negatives. But people love the weather. Best, Don Bauder


JustWondering July 24, 2013 @ 10:30 p.m.

Don, What is relevant about a 2013 client list to 2005 incident of harassment?

The 05 incident is relevant to the Jackson litigation as it goes to show documented past behavior. Additionally, with Buckles sudden departure a surprise to everyone at City Hall it's not a stretch to connect the dots between Fink, Buckles and Filner. Allred's burden is to make sure he doesn't disappear so he can be deposed. But with Filner now ejecting his 10-day Chief of Staff, Filner hopes Buckles takes a long world cruise.

If Mr. Buckles has any moral and ethical values he will make himself available to the plaintiff's attorney so due process can proceed in a timely fashion.


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 6:46 a.m.

JustWondering: If you can't figure out what is relevant about a 2013 client list when her alleged client is hungering to be mayor, then I can't help you. Best, Don Bauder


JustWondering July 25, 2013 @ 2:37 p.m.

So what you're saying is you don't know or won't say how a 2005 incident, a documented case on how Mr. Filner treats women who work for him, undermines the credibility of the information brought forth by Ms. Fink. It's simple, Filner, like all of us has a history. His history just has some peculiar quirks to it.


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 4:06 p.m.

JustWondering: No question Filner's past has peculiar quirks. But his predecessors gave away millions of taxpayer dollars to line the pockets of campaign donors and other friends. Which is worse? Best, Don Bauder


Don Bauder July 26, 2013 @ 8:11 p.m.

JustWondering: Filner has a history and Fink has an egregious conflict, perhaps two (also working for Fletcher). Best, Don Bauder


historymatters July 24, 2013 @ 8:28 p.m.

Don I wish you would be a little stronger in your support for Filner. he needs the real people of this town to stand behind him. I see absoluetly no reason to throw him under the bus at this point even w/ McCormacks filing. She MUST prove that case in court and I bet you she will drop her case because going to court will reveal this whole stinking conspiracy.

McCormack is not beyond reproach. i am still researching her but she has made some more than questionable decisions on the Port that deserves further review.

Thank you for your great research Don. I respect you a lot. I just ask every one not to cast ANY stones until something has been proven BEYOND a reasonable doubt. there is so much reasonable doubt right now we can not even see straight. So Please be patient....


Don Bauder July 24, 2013 @ 9:13 p.m.

historymatters: None of us is beyond reproach. While Gloria Allred may be looking forward to the discovery process, so might be Filner's lawyers. Filner may have good defenses. I continue to stand behind due process, not necessarily behind Filner. Some commenters on this blog don't understand the distinction. If even some of the allegations against Filner are true, his behavior is hard to excuse, but I won't be sure they rise to the point of removal from office until I see enough of the evidence. Best, Don Bauder


dwbat July 25, 2013 @ 1:59 a.m.

Should Bill Clinton have been removed from office for having sex with an intern? No! But he should have done the right thing and resigned as President (even though the SD County Democratic Party still backed Clinton after the sordid event became public). Same with Filner and his disgraceful behavior.


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 6:52 a.m.

dwbat: Local Democrats voted 24-24 on whether to continue backing Filner, and are now voting again because of new alleged evidence. This is BACKING? I do not agree that Bill Clinton should have resigned, even when it was clear that he had lied about his relationship with the intern. I thought at the time the whole thing was stupid on his part, but the impeachment was rather silly. At that time I was a registered Republican. Best, Don Bauder


dwbat July 25, 2013 @ 8:07 a.m.

I agree with you about the impeachment; it was inappropriate. But Bill should have resigned, not for his lie but for his despicable behavior itself. I was a registered Democrat at that time. Now I'm independent.


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 10:58 a.m.

dwbat: Washington DC has a different set of ethics regarding sexual badinage -- AND sexual activity. It interests me that Filner is not charged with anything having to do with sexual intercourse. It's his gauche and crude behavior with women. But the list of prominent politicians who actually had sex with women who worked for them, directly or indirectly, has some prominent names: Jack Kennedy, Bill Clinton to name two. Lyndon Johnson bragged about his sexual conquests. And then there were those who solicited prostitutes: Eliot Spitzer, David Vitter. Best, Don Bauder


dwbat July 25, 2013 @ 3:21 p.m.

Once again, those were different times. This is 2013, not the 1960s.


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 4:10 p.m.

dwbat: Bill Clinton, Eliot Spitzer, Anthony Weiner, David Vitter, Mark Sanford are not from the 1960s. In fact, the last four are quite recent. Best, Don Bauder


Yankeedoodle July 25, 2013 @ 9:46 a.m.


The Democrats are voting again? When? If true, this strikes me as very odd, showing, at the least, incapacity to distinguish between allegations and demonstrated facts. At the most, perhaps a lack of fortitude.


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 11:02 a.m.

Yankeedoodle: I thought that some due process backers would start backing down as a result of the heat generated by the RESIGN NOW crowd. That has happened. Best, Don Bauder


Yankeedoodle July 25, 2013 @ 3:01 p.m.


I am sorry to hear it. One presumes that they will not proclaim as fact that which they do not know is fact. Mystifying.


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 4:12 p.m.

Yankeedoodle: People in a time of hysteria don't look at facts. Best, Don Bauder


dwbat July 25, 2013 @ 3:23 p.m.

Democrats are meeting tonight at 6:30 for a new vote. That has been well publicized. Most likely they will vote this time for resignation by Filner.


Don Bauder July 26, 2013 @ 8:14 p.m.

dwbat: The Democrats did so vote, overwhelmingly. Best, Don Bauder


JustWondering July 25, 2013 @ 3:46 a.m.

History matters: Since the McCormack Jackson litigation is a civil matter, not a criminal one as of its filing, the burden is on the plaintiff, Jackson, to prove her case beyond a preponderance of the evidence presented. If after the Sheriff's office investigate AND the State Attorney General agrees to file a criminal complaint. The state must prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury of Mr. Filner peers. Some believe those two standards of proof, a mere preponderance, and beyond a reasonable doubt are as far apart as the walls of the Grand Canyon. In addition, a criminal matter requires a twelve person jury to render a unanimous verdict, whereas a civil action verdict can be reached without all jurors in agreement.


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 6:54 a.m.

JustWondering: In a criminal matter, the state must prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt. The bar is lower in a civil case such as McCormack Jackson's. Best, Don Bauder


ImJustABill July 25, 2013 @ 6:31 p.m.

It has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt to me. I don't think there are any reasonable possible explanations for several women publicly accusing Filner of harassment - other than harassment.


Don Bauder July 26, 2013 @ 8:15 p.m.

ImJustABill: There are no criminal charges to my knowledge. Best, Don Bauder


MURPHYJUNK July 25, 2013 @ 7:43 a.m.

What happened to the DOJ going after Filner, are they giving him plenty of time to hide or destroy evidence?


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 11:06 a.m.

Murphyjunk: I don't know if DOJ is going after Filner on the Sunroad matter. I believe it would be stupid, but possibly a way for the U.S. Attorney to please the downtown crowd. Filner or an aide stupidly committed a CIVIL offense by not steering the Sunroad payoff into some nonprofit group related to the Sunroad project. But it is hardly CRIMINAL. However, this is a time of mass hysteria. Who knows what will happen? Best, Don Bauder


Diogenes July 25, 2013 @ 8:05 a.m.

How does Carl DeMaio come on to his intended love objects?


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 11:08 a.m.

Diogenes: I don't know that, but I do know that DeMaio is crowing about Filner's difficulties, and he would be very wise to shut up. Best, Don Bauder


Don Bauder July 26, 2013 @ 8:16 p.m.

Murphyjunk: Metal image? Best, Don Bauder


MURPHYJUNK July 27, 2013 @ 7:37 a.m.

mental, I blame it on sticking keys, need a new keyboard


vitalinfo July 25, 2013 @ 9:19 a.m.

Filner's furious work and actions for the good of this community are the actions that still resonate louder than all the words spoken at the downtown freak shows led by the 3 ringleaders and now these accusers.

That matters most to me!


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 11:09 a.m.

vitalinfo. Filner has done a laudable job, although his appointment of Ekard and his backing of the convention center expansion are dubious moves. Best, Don Bauder


Diogenes July 25, 2013 @ 10:24 a.m.

Hillary Clinton went after those who accused her husband. Now she is the front runner for president for the Democratic Party.

The irony!

That Filner hit on women is hardly surprising.

Yet Bill Clinton is still a big force in the Democratic Party. So why the double standard, Democrats?


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 11:12 a.m.

Diogenes: Bill Clinton made a remarkable recovery. Best, Don Bauder


ImJustABill July 25, 2013 @ 4:25 p.m.

Clinton is a fantastic public speaker and the nation was prosperous under his watch. He certainly made some mistakes (failing to kill OBL and repealing Glass-Steagall were mistakes in my opinion). But overall I think he's viewed favorably in retrospect. I heard the other day that Bill+Hillary combined have made over $200M from public speaking.


Don Bauder July 26, 2013 @ 8:18 p.m.

ImJustABill: Yes, they made a bundle. And that is worth looking into. Best, Don Bauder


dwbat July 25, 2013 @ 3:27 p.m.

Bill Clinton has charisma, like JFK had. So that helped him recover. I worry that if Hillary gets the nomination, the GOP could win back the White House.


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 4:16 p.m.

dwbat: I agree that Hillary does not have the charisma of her husband. Eliot Spitzer does not have overwhelming charisma, but like Bill Clinton, he has brains. Best, Don Bauder


Psycholizard July 25, 2013 @ 11:19 a.m.

I've heard from a close personal friend that worked with Ms. McCormack Jackson, that she is a real Democrat, credible, and unlikely to be part of any conspiracy to undo the election. This suggests there may be a path out of this mess. Filner has not been accused of any crime and plaintiff has a dubious court claim. Nevertheless. under city policy a normal employee would be put on administrative leave immediately, and justly fired eventually, for the described actions. I support this policy. But the Mayor is not a normal employee, he represents the result of an election, and by law can only be removed by another election. His resignation would mean turning over the City to people who are openly contemptuous of, and openly plan to subvert, the policies the voters intended when they elected Filner. The perversion of justice in this far exceeds anything Filner has done.

The attorneys in the case must fashion a settlement that punishes and restricts the Mayor, but preserves the policies that both plaintiff and defendant endorse. The alternative is a trial that would play as international farce, and like any good farce, would have an unpredictable ending.


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 4:20 p.m.

Psycholizard: Such a settlement would be good for San Diego. It would not satisfy the big money factions that want their monopoly power back. And remember: they not only have the money; they have the mainstream media in their pocket. Best, Don Bauder


aardvark July 25, 2013 @ 5:55 p.m.

4 more women today on KPBS spoke out, one of which was Ronne Froman.


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 9:18 p.m.

ImJustABill: When it gets up to 21-0 on your scorecard, as it probably will, will you ask why people never came out of the woodwork before the election? Best, Don Bauder


Don Bauder July 26, 2013 @ 8:20 p.m.

ImJustABill: First, we are speaking of alleged victims, not victims. Everyone who makes charges deserves to have those charges examined by the media -- and by Filner. Best, Don Bauder


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 9:16 p.m.

aardvark: Saw it. Commented on top blog. Best, Don Bauder


Psycholizard July 25, 2013 @ 7:43 p.m.

Filner 55 DeMaio 44 is the score that counts. Why didn't these accusers come forward before the election?


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 9:21 p.m.

Psycholizard: That is a critical question. Where were all these people before the election? Did they believe everything they read in the U-T about how wonderful DeMaio was and were certain he would win? Best, Don Bauder


monaghan July 25, 2013 @ 8:04 p.m.

Ex-Navy "Mayor" Ronne Froman is the well-compensated go-to shill whenever the San Diego Establishment needs cover. Froman was briefly in charge of Facilities during Superintendent Alan Bersin's campaign to privatize City Schools' purchasing practices and to move public school property into private hands. Froman was advertised in advance of Jerry Sanders' mayoral election as a reliable COO should he become Mayor. (He was elected and Froman left shortly thereafter.) Froman served for a while as honcho and rainmaker for the privately-run USS Midway Museum at the Harbor. Today Froman presides as CEO of the Monarch School for homeless youth, a favorite charity of local movers and shakers, which recently acquired the old City Housing Commission building in Barrio Logan through the auspices of City Council and its defunct redevelopment agency successor "Civic San Diego." Froman is also recently married to local arms merchant Linden Blue whose Predators are much bigger than anything Bob Filner's got, so her belated complaint on KPBS today seems suspect.


Don Bauder July 25, 2013 @ 9:25 p.m.

monaghan: I was hardly surprised when Froman, Roscoe, and Cloward stepped up. Maybe we should start a pool: how many will come forward with their tales of humiliation and shame? Will the parade have been pre-planned or has it been spontaneous? Best, Don Bauder


Bob_Hudson July 25, 2013 @ 9:52 p.m.

Don: Your age is showing on this one. You are starting to sound like one of those people who blames rape victims because of the way they were dressed.

You have done a lot of good for San Diego and those of us who have worked with you appreciate it, but on this one it is time to keep your mouth shut before you start looking like an old fool.

I am sorry Don, but you just don't get it and maybe if enough people give you some very direct guidance, you will step back and realize what you have gotten yourself into.

Please, don't blow a lifetime of good work by trying to put lipstick on this pig (or should we say "sexist pig"?) with these conspiracy theories ("Will the parade have been pre-planned") and other such drivel.


Duhbya July 25, 2013 @ 10:06 p.m.

Incontrovertible evidence that the Hudson is polluted.


Don Bauder July 26, 2013 @ 7:31 a.m.

Bob_Hudson: This is not the first time I have been in a minority -- a very shrinking minority, and one that will almost certainly lose, because Filner will be hounded out of office. Best, Don Bauder


Yankeedoodle July 27, 2013 @ 2:37 p.m.


I do not agree that Don's reservations about equating accusations with proven facts can be framed as anti-victim. One might just as well equate your attitude with Victim's Rights advocates in the criminal justice system who think that to be accused is to be guilty.


Psycholizard July 26, 2013 @ 1:19 a.m.

Bob Filner should be punished as the facts dictate, but CCDC money should go into the general fund, because that's the policy we voted for. I don't think Filner should let anyone steal my vote or the City's money.

Anyone who doesn't know there is a conspiracy to replace the Mayor is Foxed up. I suppose everyone came forward at once by accident.

There's no one that believes the Mayor is innocent, no one thinks he shouldn't be punished, but some of us can see the crooked scheme to grab power and control a cool billion. It's not subtle.


Don Bauder July 26, 2013 @ 7:34 a.m.

Psycholizard: It's important to know if this parade was pre-planned, and who in the media are in on the planning. Best, Don Bauder


sdjoyce July 26, 2013 @ 10:05 a.m.

I believe you are missing the point here. What we are hearing here from all these women is a pattern of behavior. A pattern that, by the way, has escalated. Have you forgotten the recent screaming session he had at the airport over his luggage, the screaming session his now ex-fiance disclosed of their recent trip to Paris, public and loud? This recent verbal and physical abuse of his presence to women, in and of itself, to me is enough to warrant a thorough examination of this man's mental and emotional stability. Are these isolated or new instances? It's time for people to stop turning a blind eye to this kind of behavior, acknowledge it, and proceed accordingly. Does he not have an inner circle of friends who could have helped him? Or have they tried, and not succeeded and just gave up with the now inner circle mantra of "Oh, it's just Bob being Bob"? This type of behavior is screaming for help and no one is listening. In the meantime, we the lucky citizens of this fair city are left holding this bag of worms. Lucky us.


Don Bauder July 26, 2013 @ 8:26 p.m.

sdjoyce: I agree that his other behavior should be viewed along with his gauche sexual behavior. You can't separate the two. Actually, I think the fact that Filner is arrogant and abrasive has much to do with the sexual aggressiveness charges against him. People who hate him are coming out of the woodwork. I am working on a story involving charges about his abusive behavior, but having nothing to do with sex. Best, Don Bauder


Yankeedoodle July 29, 2013 @ 8:36 a.m.

I do not think that this is the point. The point here is not whether unwanted sexual advances are to be endured, but whether charges must wait for substantiation before the accused is strung up to twist in the wind.

The airport incident is unrelated.


Diogenes July 26, 2013 @ 10:07 a.m.

The parade of Filner victims has convinced San Diego Democrats to ask Filner to step.down., according to Francine Busby, the Chairwoman.

The recall election effort will be bankrolled by same interests who will benefit, unless Filner goes of his own volition.

Who is a good candidate for Progressives? Nobody that I arenas the guts to stand against the developer/hotelier/construction worker crowd. Expect power to be recalibrated to rubber-stampers in the Development Services Department. Expect higher density development where communities have little say.

The Good Ole' Boys are back in control using a moral issue. Amazingly, none actually went to bed with the Mayor.

Effective fighters like Michael Aguirre or Bob Filner are nowhere in sight. Expect Miami Beach high-rise on our beaches soon.


dwbat July 26, 2013 @ 7:02 p.m.

Aguirre was just on TV yesterday. I guess you missed it.


Don Bauder July 26, 2013 @ 8:28 p.m.

Diogenes: I am afraid you are right. Best, Don Bauder


Tired_of_PC July 26, 2013 @ 11:11 a.m.

Clearly, things are getting rough for Filner. He's losing all of his support groups. Even his buddies in the Communist party are throwing him under the bus. See:



Don Bauder July 26, 2013 @ 8:31 p.m.

Tired_of_PC: Interesting. Best, Don Bauder


Yankeedoodle July 26, 2013 @ 10:03 p.m.

Of course you jest, knowing as you do that Communists are not Socialists. The article is typical of the Socialists I know: quick to throw the impure under the bus. This tendency does not, I might add, distinguish them from many of the rest of us Homo sapiens.


Don Bauder July 27, 2013 @ 7:33 p.m.

Yankeedoodle: If memory serves me right, Filner did his PhD dissertation on Marxism. Nothing wrong with that. But maybe he can explain to us the difference between the two isms. Best, Don Bauder


Yankeedoodle July 28, 2013 @ 3:44 p.m.

He taught history of science, I think. And I am sure he knows the difference between all the isms.

When that fails, there is always google. But if Filner knows even one member of the Communist Party, I'll eat my hat. And yes, I reserve the right to choose which hat.


Diogenes July 26, 2013 @ 9:45 p.m.

Is Filner jesting with these women? Many look like grandmothers. Could this be a case of obsessive-compulsive geriatric gropomania?


Don Bauder July 27, 2013 @ 7:35 p.m.

Diogenes: I think Filner is older than all of the complainants. There was one age 72 who was going to come forward, but unless my memory is failing me (possible since I am 77), she has not registered her complaints yet. Best, Don Bauder


Diogenes July 28, 2013 @ 11:02 a.m.

Everyone is younger than Filner. His victims are senior citizens and elder abuse law rather than sexual harassment might be applied to rise over 65 Yeats of age.

Gloria Allred herself is not getting a y younger, just richer. Boys will be boys (we hope). Or do we?

Bob Filner and others like him raise issues of the psychology of power, and of politicians in general. You know they are screwing us... Just getting elected means raising millions if not billions.


Don Bauder July 28, 2013 @ 1:43 p.m.

Diogenes: You are absolutely right. The real topic at hand is the psychology of power. Why do so many powerful men abuse it with women? Kennedy, Clinton, Johnson, Sanford, Spitzer, Weiner, Vitter...the list goes on and on. I wonder if it's the same thrill as extramarital intercourse is said to provide -- the thrill of risk-taking, the forbidden fruit aspect. It's possibly that plus something more serious: Many men who crave power have a special kind of screw loose. They can't control it even if they know it can lead to their destruction. Best, Don Bauder


philosopher3000 Aug. 20, 2013 @ 3:47 p.m.

Overheard at City Hall between two secretaries: "I was just in the Mayor's office and Brad Pit just walked in, grabbed my ass, and asked if I had a boyfriend." "Really? What did you do?" "I told him to meet me in the parking garage, then told Mayor Filner that I was feeling sick and needed the afternoon off." "What did he do?" "Same thing as Brad, but I didn't shag him in my car."



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