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Monday -- or perhaps a later date -- could be critical for Mayor Bob Filner, according to excellent inside sources. It appears that an intergovernmental palace coup is underway.

Today (Aug. 15), a great-grandmother, in an extremely bizarre appearance with attorney Gloria Allred, claimed that Filner harassed her. She felt depressed and anxious every time she went to work. Her photo is in today's Union-Tribune.

It appears her complaint will be used as the basis of an injunction against Filner on the grounds that he creates a hostile workplace. He would be locked out, according to plans.

The various governmental agencies that have been planning to file charges against him would then present him with their deal: presumably, he could accept it or resign. If he did not accept the deal, he could probably be wiped out financially. Now, Monday could be D-Day (decision day) for him.

It also appears that the individual or individuals listening in on conversations in Chief of Staff Lee Burdick's office from the Westgate Hotel were from a governmental agency. The police apparently won't pursue an investigation -- supposedly because it would cost too much.

This is a likely scenario, and we will watch it if plays out. If there is this close intergovernmental cooperation, it is essential that details be revealed.

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KayL Aug. 15, 2013 @ 3:44 p.m.

The man was legally elected by a majority of voters. Whatever you think of what he allegedly did, it is absolutely disgusting what is happening. We are being led by mob rule.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 3:49 p.m.

KayL: These plans may change, partly because they have now been revealed. It is absolutely essential that San Diegans know exactly what happened. Best, Don Bauder

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PrescottAuburn Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:28 p.m.

Thanks for staying on top of these details. Hopefully these truths, will uphold justice.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:06 p.m.

PrescottAuburn: Forget justice. It is nowhere in sight. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:32 p.m.

I agree, KayL. If this were allowed to happen, outrageous. If planned and not carried out, merely vile.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:07 p.m.

Yankeedoodle: Agreed. Best, Don Bauder

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KayL Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:18 p.m.

Honestly, if this plan is true, what makes us better than a Third World country? What happened to due process?

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 8:37 p.m.

KayL: There are many aspects of American culture -- such as the massive wealth and income gap between the middle class and superrich -- that make this similar to a Third World country. Best, Don Bauder

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jnojr Aug. 16, 2013 @ 12:59 p.m.

Anyone who's elected cannot be removed from office for any reason? Why can't we have another election to see if San Diegans want to keep Filner?

An election does not impart immunity against prosecution, so if he's determined to be a criminal, he absolutely can be tossed out. To suggest otherwise is far beyond bizarre and well into the realm of needing professional help and medication.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 7:59 a.m.

jnojr: If there is a recall, Filner would probably be on the ballot. If he resigns, he would not. That's why so many want a resignation, and the city attorney is desperately trying to cook up anything -- whether sex- or finance-related -- as a rationale to get him out. If Filner goes, Goldsmith should be next. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:37 p.m.

laplayaheritage: Kevin Faulconer wants to be mayor. Every politician who has called for Filner's head -- and wants to be mayor -- should be disqualified. They won't, of course. Best, Don Bauder

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Founder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:42 p.m.

Agreed, it shows what status seekers they are, they all would cry foul if it happened to them...

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:01 p.m.

Founder: Oh, of course. But this coup -- if it goes through as planned -- will be covered up, if the conspirators can get away with it. Best, Don Bauder

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shirleyberan Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:04 p.m.

Yessir Don - You let us know who's gonna own San Diego next and buy property downtown at barrio prices. Very attractive incentives here. Gonna screw it up as much as big money with a bad plan can. There's already too much "glut" (restaurants, hotels, convention space ...) as you have said - downtown. What else will they take to make themselves richer and the beauty of living here Ugly?

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:39 p.m.

shirleyberan: They will stop at nothing, especially as it appears they will own city hall again, even though they lost the last election. And remember: it's the taxpayers who will be putting up much of the capital. Best, Don Bauder

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Sjtorres Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:05 p.m.

The lady you speak of is younger than Filner. The vast majority of SD residents in recent polls want Filner out...now. Filner can no longer govern. He must leave.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:41 p.m.

Sjtorres: Unless current plans change, he will be given the choice: leave or go broke. Best, Don Bauder

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JustWondering Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5 p.m.

Wow that so dramatic! Go broke? Huh? How could he go broke he has multiple pensions. And we all know from the O.J. Simpson trials, pensions under California law, are exempt from garnishments.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:03 p.m.

JustWondering: If he is criminally charged by at least two agencies, and civilly charged as well, he could go broke. Pensions should be covered even in the case of felonies. But... Best, Don Bauder

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Founder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:44 p.m.

How do you know what the "vast majority of SD residents want"? Source and/or link please....

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:04 p.m.

Founder: Polls in the U-T indicate more than 70% want Filner out. Of course, consider the source. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:37 p.m.

Don and Founder: That is the source that had their poll showing Filner losing the election by as many percentage points as he actually won.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:09 p.m.

Yankeedoodle: I don't remember that, but would not be surprised if true. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 15, 2013 @ 7:16 p.m.

Don, I remember quite well. Went in to volunteer for Bob, having heard that and read that in the U-T on paper, about Filner being down ten points, and when I asked the staff there, they said it was the U-T outlier, and that their polls showed a different result.

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 5:49 a.m.

Yankeedoodle: Remember, Romney and his minions were sure on election night that they were going to win. Polls showed otherwise, but their polls had them winning. Best, Don Bauder

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monaghan Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:16 p.m.

Exactly. Polls are crap. And U-T polls or Channel 10 polls or KPBS polls or VOSD polls or indeed any poll taken by a tainted news organization in this town are worthless propaganda.

Where is legal counsel for the people who voted for Bob Filner in the last election and voted him in by 55%? This is a highjacking.

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KayL Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:19 p.m.

Their votes don't matter. This is all about money and power. I wish there was a billionaire Democrat who could hire a PI to trail Manchester, Faulconer, Goldsmith, et al. and turn up every piece of dirt.

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 15, 2013 @ 7:18 p.m.

Monaghan:That would be the Egregious Goldsmith.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 8:02 a.m.

Yankeedoodle: The ones you mentioned have spread their dirt everywhere. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 5:53 a.m.

monaghan: In the case of unreliable, biased media, polls are made to persuade, not predict. A pollster who shows a result not desired by management may not be hired to do another poll. Sometimes, pollsters are like consultants: they are paid to give answers their hirers desire. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 16, 2013 @ 9:45 a.m.

But sometimes not. Nate Silver had a good rep, and I think his methods are readily accessible so one can determine whether to agree or not.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 8:04 a.m.

Yankeedoodle: Nate Silver would be an exception. Best, Don Bauder

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shirleyberan Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:24 p.m.

Sjtorres. - Wait till you see what you get next. Filner is deeply sexually flawed but there's a big wrecking ball headed right here from crazy impersonal businessmen like we've never seen, and I'm sure their bringing there own sex issues with them cause they're men with lots of money.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:10 p.m.

shirleyberan: Yes, look for the wrecking ball -- and your pockets being picked. Best, Don Bauder

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patflannery Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:30 p.m.

"according to excellent inside sources". Who in God's name is feeding you this rubbish?

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:42 p.m.

Pat: Sorry you believe it is rubbish. I respect you greatly. But you just read the plan now on the table. Best, Don Bauder

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patflannery Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:33 p.m.

Thanks Don. And I for you. But I can't believe you are swallowing this story about somebody "listening in on conversations in Chief of Staff Lee Burdick's office from the Westgate Hotel".

That story (it was a mere rumor two days ago) is nothing more than an effort, and a clumsy one at that, to scare Lee Burdick into abandoning Bob. Whoever is behind it knows City Hall well and the view of Westgate, particularly from the 10th and 11th Floors.

Whoever your "excellent inside source" is (more likely a former inside source like Aguirre or Frye) they are being very clever in that they know to target Burdick as their best chance of getting at Bob. But I don't think they will intimidate Burdick any more than they have done with Filner. They have badly miscalculated and are looking for cover.

Don't forget that this "palace coup" was started by Donna Frye and two other Filner "supporters", not by Republican bad guys or any sinister "intergovernmental" agencies.

Now that the coup is failing the initiators who called that first press conference are concocting a cover story and you are being used to give it legs. That tells me that they know their plan is dead in the water.

Sorry Don, I still respect you enormously, I just think you are being had on the Westgate spying story. I hope we can remain friends.

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 15, 2013 @ 7:44 p.m.

Pat Always nice to have an alternate theory. I hope you are correct, and possibly Don would also prefer that, if it means the plan to eject Filner is indeed dead in the water.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 8:06 a.m.

Yankeedoodle: The plan to eject Filner is hardly dead in the water. He may be locked out of his office already. We will have to see. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 5:58 a.m.

Pat: We remain friends. The scenario I have sketched -- the palace coup -- may not happen, as I have said from the beginning. If it doesn't happen, it would be because the governmental bodies involved would realize they could come under severe criticism for pulling off such a coup. But I repeat: this is a plan on the table. Those who hope to pull it off also hope to cover up the spying incident. Best, Don Bauder

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monaghan Aug. 15, 2013 @ 9 p.m.

I have to ask the same question that Flannery does: there isn't a single attribution for any of this and it feels very overblown. At one point you attribute the fracas to "environmentalists" and by that I can only think Donna Frye and Cory Briggs who started the ball rolling in the first place. Frye had an unintelligible piece today in VoiceofSanDiego, of all places, on a weird women's rights topic about who is entitled to be in the Mayor's presence and who isn't, and that struck me as very odd. But then, she is very odd. So I am not particularly enlightened here, Don, and cannot buy the story you are putting out without its having some old-fashioned factual legs.

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 6 a.m.

monaghan: I have been in this game almost 50 years. I trust the source. Best, Don Bauder

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aardvark Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:39 p.m.

Now we are back to the listening devices at the Westgate Hotel...

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:43 p.m.

aardvark: At this point, the plan is to cover that up. Best, Don Bauder

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Founder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:39 p.m.

I hope Mayor Filner will surprise everyone, except his long time supporters and surf this "witch hunt", then come out even more against the UT and all those that are not only after him but want control over $an Diego's future!

This is about far more than a very public single man and his relationships to the women that work around him; it is all about POWER and those that seek to control it.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:45 p.m.

Founder: Even those who hate Bob Filner should demand that every agency of government that plans to be involved in this coup reveal everything. Best, Don Bauder

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Founder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:53 p.m.

Yes, to do otherwise only weakens San Diego's future!

Mayor Filner should demand full disclosure of all charges aginst him along with all records from those Gov't. agencies that have provided ANY information about him!

I bet friends of those friendly with the CIA have asked for and gotten a little help from un-mentioned alphabetical agencies.

Who knows this could turn out to be a Westgate, instead of a Watergate!

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:06 p.m.

Founder: The press is calling it Filnergate, but Westgate will do. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:41 p.m.

I have heard the Filnergate, but I prefer Westgate, having more resonance, historically.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:12 p.m.

Yankeedoodle: Fitting. C. Arnholt Smith built the Westgate. Best, Don Bauder

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Diogenes Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:08 p.m.

Witch Goode,

"He's hugging me now!"

  • The Devil in San Diego
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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:13 p.m.

Diogenes: The public thinks environmentalists, tree huggers, started this ball rolling. Best, Don Bauder

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Diogenes Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:41 p.m.

A showing of great irreparable harm must be made based on an employee's feelings?

I hope the judge can balance the competing interests and deny the TRO.

Bosses everywhere beware. You will be thrown out by the Gloria Allred wrecking crew on the basis of feelings. Feelings, oh whoa, feelings....

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:47 p.m.

Diogenes: When governments conspire with the private sector, the rule of law goes out the window. The rule of law is supposed to protect people from this kind of activity. Not in this case (unless the plans change). Best, Don Bauder

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Founder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:47 p.m.

Ha Ha Ha Mayor Filner is being subjected to no less than the Big Gov't Power Grab They don't deal with what the LAW says unless using it, will help them achieve their goals...

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:07 p.m.

Founder: It appears to involve governments on the state, local and federal levels. Best, Don Bauder

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Diogenes Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:26 p.m.

Just as with Aguirre and Sunroads. It's OK for developers to thumb their nose at the FAA air safety regulations.

The combination of government and corporations is fascism, according to a notoriou Italian leader who was hanged in WWII.

Using feminism to promote fascism is strange indeed.

The TRO will be denied.

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:45 p.m.

One would hope so, unless the judge is up for reelection. I know nothing of these matters.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 8:41 p.m.

Yankeedoodle: The scary thing is that a judge up for reelection in San Diego is likely to go along with this coup. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:48 p.m.

Diogenes I do know that you are correct about the origin of fascism, a term often used to mean "I don't like you."

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:17 p.m.

Diogenes: Remember Sunroad. Then-City Attorney Aguirre tried to get a building that was against federal and state laws altered. Sanders had gotten money from Sunroad, and he and his minions fought for the company. But the news and editorials by the U-T were so twisted -- with the help of the establishment -- that Aguirre was made to look bad and Sanders made to look a victim. Only in San Diego. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 8:40 p.m.

Diogenes: It depends who the judge is. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:43 p.m.

As for me, I have often had those feelings of dread when I have to go to work.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:18 p.m.

Yankeedoodle: Is a public/private sector conspiracy lying -- and I mean lying -- in wait? Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 15, 2013 @ 7:49 p.m.

The Lord only knows. This is a total bummer, I have to say. I couldn't believe it when Filner won...and I guess they couldn't either.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 8:42 p.m.

Yankeedoodle: Yes, but they had his past to hang him with. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 16, 2013 @ 9:53 a.m.

Apparently. So far, the actual detes don't match the trailer, but maybe they are saving their best cards for the trial. Seems unlikely, given the resignation requests, that they would hold anything back. That is why I prefer to wait for a real trial with rules of evidence, and both sides being questioned, before I accept accusations and denials at face value. The idea of acting on mere accusation seems, well, very Robespierre.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 8:12 a.m.

Yankeedoodle: There are no trials and rules of evidence in a lynching. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 8:10 a.m.

monaghan: TRO = temporary restraining order. Best, Don Bauder

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shirleyberan Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:41 p.m.

patflannery Did you get the real point that some other person or entity wants the Mayor out so they can take over? This is a set up or these women wouldn't have come out as "terribly victimized" and now that's all your hearing on biased news?!

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:49 p.m.

shirleyberan: It's not a single individual in the private sector. It is an increasingly larger number of persons, who lined up at least four government agencies to concoct phony charges.

Remember: IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU. Best, Don Bauder

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Founder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:54 p.m.

YES, and sooner than any of US would like!

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:08 p.m.

Founder: Hopefully, US as in U.S. Best, Don Bauder

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dwbat Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:47 p.m.

"It also appears that the individual or individuals listening in on conversations in Chief of Staff Lee Burdick's office from the Westgate Hotel were from a governmental agency." Appears? What agency? What kind of microphone was it? Are you sure it wasn't a laser listening-device (if it happened), as someone suggested would be needed?

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:10 p.m.

dwbat: The police could investigate, but won't, and even if they did, their investigation would probably not be credible. Best, Don Bauder

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dwbat Aug. 16, 2013 @ 9:11 a.m.

Don, I was addressing those questions to YOU, not the PD. Since you are making the allegation, you need to provide more info and then investigate it yourself.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 8:14 a.m.

d-bat: There is nothing I can do to make you understand what is going on. Best, Don Bauder

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dwbat Aug. 17, 2013 @ 2:13 p.m.

Yes, there IS something you can do. You could provide proof, and detailed info from your "credible" source. You have neglected to do so. As Sgt. Joe Friday used to say: "Just the facts, please."

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Ponzi Aug. 15, 2013 @ 9 p.m.

Laser eavesdropping devices costs begin the the $30K to $40K range. If that is the kind of device that was used, there was more than likely a federal investigation going on before any of this other sexual harassment circus emerged. A device like that is of little use to a P.I or even local officials. That is a federal or (more typically) a military or national security asset.

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 6:06 a.m.

Ponzi: Yours is one interpretation. I am not sure I agree with it, but you are certainly free to offer it. Best, Don Bauder

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Diogenes Aug. 15, 2013 @ 4:56 p.m.

Arnold could have been thrown out of his house if he hurt his maids feelings - and out of the Governor's office, too. Oh, yeah, he paid her money.

But he was a movie star... and a Republican.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:11 p.m.

Diogenes: When did he pay her money: before or after he was elected? Best, Don Bauder

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Diogenes Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:28 p.m.

Both, I believe. He called it supporting his son.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:19 p.m.

Diogenes: And he didn't call it supporting his political ambitions? Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 15, 2013 @ 7:55 p.m.

Diogenes: I think it is okay to do that; regardless of whether it helped him to give her money, pragmatically, it is also proper to support one's progeny. It was good enough for Grover Cleveland.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 8:44 p.m.

Yankeedoodle: Grover was president during a depression. Can't help any politician. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 15, 2013 @ 10:10 p.m.

No, I mean, he was quite popular actually, but he did support his son to whose mother he was not married, and the fact that he supported him improved his image in the eyes of the citizens...or so I heard all my life. Yes, the depression ousted him but he returned, and he was still popular personally even when out.

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Diogenes Aug. 16, 2013 @ 9:36 a.m.

Child support, hush money? I am sure the $ was green just the same. Basically, I don't care about him at all. He's gone.

He is still a movie star.

We all come into the world in the same way.

Regards

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 8:17 a.m.

Diogenes: Ah-nold is now playing older men in shoot-em-ups. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 8:16 a.m.

Yankeedoodle: Actually, several men could have been father of the child that Cleveland supported. Best, Don Bauder

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shirleyberan Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:03 p.m.

Paris was small change and he'll pay back the credit card. You need to read between the lines or update your reading. Don - Faulconer is Republican money, right?

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:12 p.m.

shirleybean: I don't believe I have mentioned the Paris excursion recently. Yes, it was small change. Faulconer is a Republican, a lackey for the downtown establishment, and passionately desirous of being mayor. Best, Don Bauder

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shirleyberan Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:19 p.m.

I was commenting on the "what about that trip to Paris" posting. But don they're all Republicans going after him aren't they?!

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Diogenes Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:17 p.m.

Depends on how you define a Democrat.

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KayL Aug. 15, 2013 @ 8:24 p.m.

This town has no true Democrats in power. The only person I would vote for mayor is Lori Saldana. Otherwise they can all rot.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 8:46 p.m.

KayL: Lori would be a good candidate but I fear she wouldn't have a chance. No money. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:21 p.m.

shirleyberan: Both Democrats and Republicans are going after him. Republicans are doing the financing. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 15, 2013 @ 8:09 p.m.

Shirley: Let us not forget Todd Gloria, an ostensible Democrat. His style is the antithesis of Filner's, which makes some people like him. He has called for Filner's resignation. I notice that we have not heard from Donna Frye, recently. One wonders if the whole thing has spun out of control, with various factions jockeying for position. I don't know.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 8:52 p.m.

Yankeedoodle: Gloria is a DINO. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 6:16 a.m.

Yankeedoodle: If the coup goes through as I have sketched -- and remember, the conspirators could decide not to risk the lockout -- then this would have spun out of control by definition. Best, Don Bauder

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shirleyberan Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:21 p.m.

That's the go or go broke over legal fees?!

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:23 p.m.

shirleyberan: At this point that appears to be his choice. One option for Filner would be to resign, sign their secrecy pledge, then move to an offshore haven and reveal everything. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 15, 2013 @ 8:12 p.m.

Don Thanks for the chuckle. I heard Navarro revealed all when he lost, but I didn't read it.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 8:54 p.m.

Yankeedoodle: Navarro wrote a great series for the Reader. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 15, 2013 @ 10:15 p.m.

Yes, we had a friend who read it, but we didn't know anybody, so didn't read it. Now, it might be interesting. I think actually he wrote it after Bilbray beat him.

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 6:17 a.m.

Yankeedoodle: I have forgotten when he wrote it. I just remember that it was excellent. Best, Don Bauder

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historymatters Aug. 16, 2013 @ 12:24 a.m.

I agree w/ the person who said Filner has 3 pensions and they cannot touch pensions. he MUST fight this and we must back him 100%. If we dont we will never get our city back.

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 6:19 a.m.

historymatters: I have a 135-page document describing under what circumstances pensions can and cannot be preserved in such matters. I haven't read it yet, but will. Best, Don Bauder

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Bob McPhail Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:25 p.m.

We know we're in there. If we don't come out, we're coming in after us.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:24 p.m.

Bob McPhail: We have seen the enemy and he is us. Best, Don Bauder

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Diogenes Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:31 p.m.

A bankruptcy filing might stop some of the lawsuits.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:25 p.m.

Diogenes: I have thought of BK. It's a possibility, but not a desirable one. Best, Don Bauder

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Diogenes Aug. 15, 2013 @ 8:16 p.m.

The plaintiffs would file a complaint to determine that the cases were non-dischargeable because they were based on a battery.

Don, Filner might have a fronto-temporal brain lesion that is causing satyriasis. He needs an MRI of his brain. If the actions are not within his control, if he even did the, that would explain his behavior and legally excuse it. Therefore, there would be no punitive damages or criminal intent.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 8:57 p.m.

Diogenes: I have mentioned the possibility of such a problem such as early onset dementia. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 15, 2013 @ 10:20 p.m.

Don: How can that be when most of the incidents occurred many years ago? Also, he seemed pretty cogent in his debates, two of which I attended, and he has been with it enough to do more in six months than others have done in four years. Just saying.

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 6:21 a.m.

Yankeedoodle: Yours would be one argument against a physical/mental impairment. Best, Don Bauder

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Ponzi Aug. 15, 2013 @ 9:07 p.m.

Bankruptcies don't eliminate legal fees that are secured by real estate. BK doesn't discharge debts related to criminal penalties or fraud. Sadly, once cases get this messy only the lawyers win.

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 6:25 a.m.

Ponzi: Whether bankruptcy could help, and whether Filner's pensions are protected, are complicated legal questions that require much more research. However, I can say, as I have said earlier, that the intergovernmental conspirators could present their plans to Filner in a way that threatened his financial solvency. Best, Don Bauder

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shirleyberan Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:35 p.m.

I'd be more worried about Filner being a lackey than how much sex he didn't get, Ha

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:25 p.m.

shirleyberan: From what we know thus far, it doesn't appear he got any. Best, Don Bauder

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Diogenes Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:38 p.m.

An employee of a workers comp carrier faked wetting his pants everytime his boss yelled at him. He collected a very large settlement. He later confided that he placed a water baloon in his pocket and popped it with a pin when the boss yelled.

P.S Do not attempt with number two; it's a hard act to follow!

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Diogenes Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:46 p.m.

My point is that some of the Filner victims seem to be able to perform on demand when Gloria sez (either Gloria).

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:27 p.m.

Diogenes: It depends how big the settlement is. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 9:02 p.m.

Diogenes: Clever guy. Best, Don Bauder

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Diogenes Aug. 16, 2013 @ 9:40 a.m.

He got even with the workers comp carrier. I do not approve of his conduct, just that people cam embellish their symptoms for money or even political gain.

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shirleyberan Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:40 p.m.

Don - my earlier comment wasn't aimed at you. So many people can't see. And I've been trying to keep up with you, learning. Appreciate that a lot Kind Sir.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:28 p.m.

shirleybean: Heavens! Some pejorative not aimed at me! Being a pin cushion is part of my job description. Best, Don Bauder

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BlueSouthPark Aug. 15, 2013 @ 5:43 p.m.

There hasn't been a more bizarre and unbelievable series of women trotted out than those we are seeing in San Diego. Not even close. I hope accuser number whatever is able to resolve her financial problems. Which she has a history of.

Everything is turned on its head: 30-something PR mavens are shrieking "condemn him" yet conspire with women who call themselves "feminazis," a term created by America's #1 misogynist, Limbaugh. Hooters, long held in contempt by feminists, and the playground of Glenn Beck and his ilk, AND with female defendants represented by Allred, is mocking a mayor with a lifetime history of fighting for womens' rights.

It is the season of the witch - the big, ugly, tea-partying, sleazy-smiling, broom-carrying witch.

Hang in there, Mayor Bob Filner. You've done nothing perverted, nothing dishonest, nothing violent, nothing sick, psychotic, or sociopathic - you just didn't know what the crazy, self-interested, manipulative, half-cooked, sun-stroked, land-hungry, dollar-driven denizens and their sycophants who think they rule, or want to rule, this town without a legitimate news organization of any kind were capable of doing.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:03 p.m.

THE LATEST: According to very reliable information (again, this is not a rumor), the city attorney's office is writing a declaration in support of a restraining order that would bar Filner from City Hall. It is being written for Chief of Staff Lee Burdick's signature. Best, Don Bauder

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monaghan Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:22 p.m.

I am not clear: are you saying that Lee Burdick is conspiring to do Filner in?

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 6:31 a.m.

monaghan: From the information I have received, Burdick would sign the document. Remember: this caper could be canceled, moderated, or delayed. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 16, 2013 @ 10:03 a.m.

And, they have to get her to sign it, what?

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 8:22 a.m.

Yankeedoodle: That appears to be the case. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:30 p.m.

BlueSouthPark: That Hooters thing is a hoot. There is no more sexist operation than Hooters. (I refuse to go there, so I haven't experienced it. I have just heard about it.) Best, Don Bauder

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Ponzi Aug. 15, 2013 @ 9:12 p.m.

Sex sells. So do cheap publicity stunts like Hooter's saying they won't serve Filner. They needn't worry, my instinct is Filner has never lowered himself to patronize that trashy establishment. They are mocking their own business model.

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 6:32 a.m.

Ponzi: There will be more on this. Keep following the Reader. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 15, 2013 @ 8:42 p.m.

Blues: Don't hold back your feelings, now. Seriously, I have heard the term 'feminazis' only as a pejorative. I cannot countenance that someone is calling herself that...must be a satire or an error.

And by the way...the rest of the emoting, in accord with, fully.

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 6:34 a.m.

Yankeedoodle: I thought mysogynist Limbaugh had patented "Feminazis" Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 9:05 p.m.

BlueSouthPark: Good question: who has sociopathic characteristics? Goldsmith says Filner does. Hmmm. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 8:24 a.m.

ttea: And some sycophants could be called psychophants. Best, Don Bauder

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Psycholizard Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:06 p.m.

With this latest accuser, Gloria Allred seems to have gone completely insane. What she portrays as acts of depravity, any normal person would see as the acts of a very nice man, who reaches out to each and everyone, even those that most people would find disgusting. I urge every one to watch this. http://www.cbs8.com/story/23147776/live-stream-1pm-16th-filner-accuser-gloria-allred-news-conference

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KayL Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:22 p.m.

I wish these women could all be fully investigated. I bet we'd dig up a lot of dirt. This is all too orchestrated to all be true.

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monaghan Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:28 p.m.

The women are all baloney. Today's shill was hilarious, let's face it. Filner needs great -- not good, great -- lawyers who will figure out how to protect him AND keep him in office, not permitting the scandalous disenfranchisement of the voting public.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:34 p.m.

monaghan: There may not be such a lawyer on the face of the earth. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 15, 2013 @ 8:47 p.m.

There are some very darn good lawyers, though. Even here.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 9:06 p.m.

Yankeedoodle: Yes, even here. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:33 p.m.

KayL: Of course it's orchestrated -- as polished a performance as Spike Jones playing Mahler. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:31 p.m.

Psycholizard: As with many of the accusers, I think Filner was just kidding with this lady. Best, Don Bauder

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monaghan Aug. 15, 2013 @ 9:18 p.m.

That's obviously the case. Old-fashion sexual joshing of that sort -- minus the Viagra jokes or forced French-kissing or lingerie suggestions -- was common in the olden times. Younger men today like Kevin Faulconer or Todd Gloria are too bled-white or too gay, respectively, to engage in that kind of banter. And a good thing too. Their political careers appear to be on the upswing for their careful sailing between Scylla and Charybdis. But who knows how it will work out? No one seems to know -- neither Don Bauder nor his authoritative "source."

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 6:37 a.m.

monaghan: I have sketched a scenario being plotted. I have said from the beginning that it may not come off. Best, Don Bauder

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monaghan Aug. 16, 2013 @ 11:48 a.m.

Let us hope that your airing this possible plot will be taken as a warning shot across the bow and that would-be perpetrators will back off.

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Diogenes Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:36 p.m.

Theater of the absurd.

Filner could write a book, "If I Did It."

Has any one looked for a frontal-temporal lobe lesion that could account for satyriasis?

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 9:08 p.m.

Diogenes: His accusers could write a book, "If He Said It." Best, Don Bauder

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Diogenes Aug. 15, 2013 @ 8:19 p.m.

Gloria is way sicker than Bob, IMHO.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 9:08 p.m.

Diogenes: Gloria Allred or Todd Gloria? Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 15, 2013 @ 8:58 p.m.

Psycholizard: Yes, I have to agree with you after seeing this video of the news program. He was probably being nice. Maybe she liked the other mayor better, who knows? But not very believable. I wonder if she saw him flying with his familiars? I have been expecting reports of his flights on a broom for a couple of weeks now, and am somewhat disappointed that Ms. Allred hasn't found any witnesses.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 9:10 p.m.

Yankeedoodle: There were witches in Salem -- don't you know? Best, Don Bauder

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Psycholizard Aug. 15, 2013 @ 6:56 p.m.

Filner's refusal to speak seems wiser every day. His accusers are becoming more unhinged. We see classic delusions of grandeur. Allred feels entitled to demand change of leadership in a city she doesn't reside. I hesitate to say anything about her latest client, but if she's the point of the spear to seize control of City Hall, she seems neither hard or sharp.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 9:12 p.m.

Psycholizard: Let's not denigrate any individual. As a group, though, there is a credibility gap there. Best, Don Bauder

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Psycholizard Aug. 15, 2013 @ 9:43 p.m.

Agreed, let's aim at the lawyers. Most statements have been so tame, I don't doubt the facts. But to conclude that they mean sex crime is bizarre.

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 6:40 a.m.

Psycholizard: Yes, to make some of these alleged occurrences into sex crimes requires a vivid imagination or a very ambitious attorney. Best, Don Bauder

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monaghan Aug. 15, 2013 @ 9:32 p.m.

Filner spoke at the outset of these troubles. He apologized and vowed to seek counseling, work on reform and do better. He's not refusing to speak; he just isn't speaking right now when everyone at City Hall is in recess.

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 6:42 a.m.

monaghan: in recess or in hysteria mode? Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 16, 2013 @ 10:08 a.m.

Monaghan: Good point. That was said at the outset, so long ago, about the recess in August, but in the excitement and anxiety of the moment, that fact seems to have slipped away from consideration.

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historymatters Aug. 16, 2013 @ 12:29 a.m.

This woman lost her right not to be denigrated by filing this absurd claim. Her own allegation indicates Filner did NOTHING. What a contemptible individual....

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 6:43 a.m.

historymatters: This claim will definitely have to be probed deeply. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 16, 2013 @ 10:11 a.m.

History: Wouldn't you say that under stress or temptation many people can behave in ways they later regret, having performed a contemptible act not necessarily rendering them contemptible persons? But that is a debate for action morality versus agent morality, eh?

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shirleyberan Aug. 15, 2013 @ 7:18 p.m.

Tiger's whores would be so proud she represents real women.

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 15, 2013 @ 8:50 p.m.

Shirley: I do not understand your reference.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 9:14 p.m.

Yankeedoodle: I don't understand the reference either. Best, Don Bauder

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KayL Aug. 15, 2013 @ 11:36 p.m.

I believe what Shirley is referring to is Gloria Allred representing the women that Tiger Woods had affairs with, such as Rachel Uchitel.

This is an amusing twist: http://www.celebitchy.com/169243/rachel_uchitel_double_crossed_by_gloria_allred_has_to_return_tigers_millions_/

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 6:47 a.m.

KayL: I had forgotten that. I recall that when all this was happening, I didn't believe anyone. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 16, 2013 @ 10:18 a.m.

KayL: Ah, I understand the reference, now. Thanks. I never follow those stories.

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BlueSouthPark Aug. 15, 2013 @ 7:28 p.m.

Peggy Shannon was a perfectly happy camper until last Friday. She's no weeping, shy flower: one of her fave shows is Ru Paul's Drag Race. Unlike IreneMJ, Allred didn't vet this one and wipe the FB account of everything other than the smiley photo. Oh yeah.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 9:15 p.m.

BlueSouthPark: You know more than I do on this one. Best, Don Bauder

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KayL Aug. 15, 2013 @ 8:21 p.m.

I am so disgusted by people outside San Diego judging what's going on. They just assume Filner is guilty of all charges, without having a clue about the evil that controls this city. But that's exactly what the media wants. Left-wing media? Yeah right.

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Don Bauder Aug. 15, 2013 @ 9:17 p.m.

KayL: For Filner, this came up at the wrong time -- when Weiner was dominating headlines. Filner's opponents probably planned that -- may have been waiting for the chance. Best, Don Bauder

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monaghan Aug. 15, 2013 @ 9:41 p.m.

If you read or hear commentary about Mayor Filner that is off-base -- as has been true in the NY Times, the Boston Globe and on Rachel Maddow -- I strongly urge you to respond to set the record straight. These pundits have zip at stake here -- their votes aren't getting trashed -- and you should let them know that you don't appreciate their facile, baseless and plain-wrong pontificating. They need to hear the truth from people who are living it.

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KayL Aug. 15, 2013 @ 9:52 p.m.

Great idea, thank you. I'm especially disappointed in Rachel, normally she would be aghast by Manchester et al.

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 6:51 a.m.

KayL: Yes, I am disappointed in Rachel Maddow, too. Ditto Collins of the NY Times. Best, Don Bauder

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dwbat Aug. 16, 2013 @ 9:18 a.m.

Go Rachel! [And would she care if a Colorado reporter was "disappointed" in her? I don't THINK so.]

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monaghan Aug. 16, 2013 @ 1:11 p.m.

Rachel Maddow didn't seem to care that her authoritative resource on the subject of San Diego politics was U-T "watchdog" Trent Siebert, a new hire by Papa Doug Manchester and recently arrived here from Texas. Siebert is a former recipient of Koch Brothers' right-wing money for a now-defunct right-wing journal. The second time around, some sub sat in for the vacationing Maddow and the guest was less offensively biased -- I forget who it was.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 8:44 a.m.

d-bat: Her ratings are up, last I heard -- in Colorado, probably, too. Best, Don Bauder

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Duhbya Aug. 16, 2013 @ 12:34 p.m.

Add Joe Scarborough, Mika Brzezinski, Chris Matthews, Nancy Pelosi, even John Oliver (Daily Show) to the list.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 8:46 a.m.

Duhbya: Don't forget Mrs. Clean, Feinstein, and Boxer. Best, Don Bauder

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Duhbya Aug. 17, 2013 @ 9:01 a.m.

And speaking of "Watchpup" Trent Siebert, I just viewed a particularly vapid piece on CNN an hour ago. He fits snugly into the mold of the empty head that the Manchestbeater Chronicle values. It's too soon to find a clip, but I'll be on the lookout for it.

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 17, 2013 @ 2:21 p.m.

Don: I called or emailed Boxer and Feinstein to let them know that this constituent didn't appreciate their uninformed interference. Called Pelosi, who, I believe, prudently stopped short of suggesting or demanding a resignation. I have never been into these histrionics: they remind me of what my sainted father said..."Point with pride and view with alarm!"

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monaghan Aug. 16, 2013 @ 12:55 p.m.

As a chronicler of San Diego money business, monkey business and business-as-usual, Don Bauder is never short on story material.

Other people search desperately for subjects to write about in August of a non-election year. (Actually they have a mayor's race in NYC and ought to pay attention to their own issues rather than cast their net to the West Coast.)

They notice us in the lower lefthand corner of the country because some professional peddler has been paid to get their attention to promote -- or vilify -- a particular person or issue. This does not happen by serendipity: it is done by design and someone is paid money to front the story ideas to the press. It's like "product placement"in the movies.

Remember Superintendent Alan Bersin in the Wall Street Journal and Nathan Fletcher in NYT David Brooks' column? Bob Filner made a scathing editorial subject at the Boston Globe, of all places, and was twice in NYT Gail Collins' column, twice in LAT Sandy Banks' column and twice on Rachel Maddow's TV show.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 8:48 a.m.

monaghan: I do wonder if a local (or national) flack is behind all this. However, a sex scandal always sells, and moves quickly in the media. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 6:49 a.m.

monaghan: Agreed. Someone should set the record straight with the national press. But they tend to be hit-and-run artists. Best, Don Bauder

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aardvark Aug. 15, 2013 @ 9:18 p.m.

Don: This is off-topic, but KUSI had a story after the Chargers game tonight entitled "Reality Check". It was an interview with Mark Fabiani, and you can guess what it was about. Filner's blood is in the water, and Fabiani is wasting no time getting a new Chargers stadium back to the forefront. Fabiani mentioned the usual things--the Chargers would put up $200 mil (never mentioning naming rights, specifically who would get them), the NFL would put up $200 mil, and the city could put up the sale of the Sports Arena and Qualcomm sites that would add up to another $300 mil. You can imagine who would put up the rest. And the site they showed included Tailgate Park for the Padres--it is my understanding that Tailgate Park is tied to the Padres through the year 2033, as that is part of the 30 year lease between the Padres and the city. Would the Padres sue the Chargers and/or the city to keep Tailgate Park? I know there have been many threads about this, but it might be an idea for a thread for something that may happen after/if Filner is recalled or resigns.

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monaghan Aug. 15, 2013 @ 9:46 p.m.

This is totally on-topic: post-Filner planning for a football stadium downtown. If they sell the Sports Arena, maybe they could roll back the 30-foot height limit and build up? Oh, the places they'll go, the profits they'll see....

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aardvark Aug. 15, 2013 @ 10:24 p.m.

Monaghan: I thought it was off-topic based on the title of this thread. But in regards to the Sports Arena property, if that property is sold and the arena is torn down, would they argue any replacement structures on that property be allowed to be the same height as the previous (arena) structure?

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monaghan Aug. 16, 2013 @ 1:22 p.m.

Some land-use specialist needs to answer this excellent question. One thing I do know is that density will increase geometrically if any such deal goes through.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 8:51 a.m.

monaghan: This goes to the heart of the Filner lynching: it is being financed by the people who want taxpayers to subsidize a billionaire family for a downtown Chargers stadium. Nobody should be surprised that Fabiani moved into this. He may be one of those behind the witch hanging. Best, Don Bauder

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Ponzi Aug. 15, 2013 @ 10:34 p.m.

Of course the sharks will circle. Fabiani says that subsidizing sports will still go on. Fabiani says a football stadium will require "vision." We will call your "vision" and raise you "common sense" when the required ballot initiative is placed before us.

NOTE TO SPANOS & CO.: Go away Fabiani, and take your lies and dreams of corporate welfare with you. And to Spanos, why do you keep this knucklehead on your payroll? He's like a stock that is always reporting negative earnings. He has never accomplished your ambitions, he has never overcome your challenges, he is just a mouthpiece the press will occasionally give an audience. He's like keeping a lousy player on the roster and yet you keep this cretin on your payroll. You might actually get somewhere if you kicked this toad to the curb. San Diego is tired of Fabiani, we don't believe him, we don't like him and we are not going to listen to him. You're best move is to dump him.

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aardvark Aug. 15, 2013 @ 11:15 p.m.

Fabiani will probably do his best to keep a stadium plan off of the ballot--similar to the convention center expansion. Fabiani also feels that the convention center expansion plan will be tied up in court, and he thinks the Chargers can just swoop in and take that money for a football stadium instead. Oh HELL no.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 8:54 a.m.

Ponzi: Yes, but Fabiani manages to hang on. The Spanos family seems incapable of judging his performance. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 6:54 a.m.

David Crossley: I am sure Fabiani never mentioned that the NFL loans money for these corporate-welfare-for-billionaire projects. Loans have to be paid back. And he certainly did not say, as you point out, that the $200 million would almost certainly include naming rights, advertising rights, etc. The billionaire Spanos family would put up very little. Best, Don Bauder

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aardvark Aug. 16, 2013 @ 12:24 p.m.

Don: He said that the Chargers would put up $200 mil (which would undoubtedly include naming rights), the NFL would put up $200 mil (I am not sure if the NFL charges an interest rate on these loans), and the city could bond against (I believe those were his words) the Sports Arena and Qualcomm sites, which would be worth another $300 mil. Which leaves the city picking up the rest. Of course, that also means in reality the city is picking up that other $300 mil from the Sports Arena/Q sites, as instead of the city profiting from selling those sites, that money would go into a new stadium. So when you pencil it all out, the city would be on the hook for roughly 60-65% of the cost of a new stadium for the Chargers. Which would actually be more, assuming the city would sell bonds for the project, which last time I checked, were not interest-free. Not interested. And "the powers that be" keep talking about trying to host the Olympics in 2024. Welcome to Fantasyland.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 8:57 a.m.

David Crossley: The City would probably be on the hook for more than 60% to 65% of the costs. The NFL loans would have to be paid back. I don't know offhand whether there is interest on those loans. Agreed: Olympics hosting is a pipe dream. Best, Don Bauder

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Psycholizard Aug. 15, 2013 @ 10:50 p.m.

After what we've seen, a lock out at City Hall seems possible. But like Allred's show today, it might be miscalculation. I don't think anyone really is thinking this through. The notion that Filner will run out of money for his defense and therefore fold seems odd, the City likely will have to cover those expenses, and lawyers will wait for payment. Also Filner's team might not believe that he needs to settle, perhaps they believe that others in the end will pay expenses and serious damages as well. The change of venue motion doesn't suggest a team concerned about money. The choice of Imperial County suggests plenty of fight after the old challenge; "I'll meet you in Hell first.".

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Ponzi Aug. 15, 2013 @ 11:19 p.m.

Defense lawyers will work "on the come." They know that their chances of collecting legal fees is better than not, because this will evolve into a settlement. The "celebrity" value is also attractive. How did her majesty Gloria Allred ascend to the throne without doing a lot of pro-bono? The city of San Diego is like one big * waiting to get fkd by the lawyers. I have said it before and will say it again, it is the **** lawyers that are the ultimate winners. Once compromise and calm are thrown out, the scavengers will tear apart the scraps of the carcass. The lawyers have most to gain and the taxpayers have most to lose. I hope people keep this circus in mind when Jan Goldsmith, and the synthetic fur pet he has perched on his head, run for re-election.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 9 a.m.

Ponzi: You are right on the money. The lawyers always win, and San Diego is their heaven. Hopefully, Jan Goldsmith will be thrown out of office. His performance is a disgrace to the law. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 6:58 a.m.

Psycholizard: I agree that the planned lockout may be a miscalculation and may not go through. Time will tell. Any number of things could thwart this plot. At this point, though (Friday morning), I think the odds favor the coup. Best, Don Bauder

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philosopher3000 Aug. 16, 2013 @ 12:07 a.m.

They must really be afraid of Filner to go to these lengths

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 7:01 a.m.

philosopher3000: With the downtown establishment, the motivation is fear that he will go through with his plans to rein in corporate welfare, which voters approved. With the Democrats, it's not necessarily fear of Filner. It is a personal struggle -- among individuals, and among factions. Best, Don Bauder

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vitalinfo Aug. 16, 2013 @ 8:58 a.m.

With Democrats. . . .It is a personal struggle --" and lack of balls!

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 12:47 p.m.

vitalinfo: Democrats everywhere are not known for intestinal fortitude. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 7:05 a.m.

philosopher3000: Sex crimes (say, with a minor) and sexual harassment charges go both ways. Men have charged women with sexual harassment, although those constitute a small minority of cases. Best, Don Bauder

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historymatters Aug. 16, 2013 @ 12:27 a.m.

this is why HAND COUNTS and precinct counts are so important to get these criminals OUT! These people run our elections!

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 7:07 a.m.

historymatters: I don't understand the relevance of your comment, although I am not necessarily arguing with it. Best, Don Bauder

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historymatters Aug. 16, 2013 @ 12:33 a.m.

Join the demand for due process people! this is a war! we can not give up! if we let Filner resign it will be a 1000 times harder to get SD back. https://www.facebook.com/WeDemandDueProcessForMayorFilner?ref=hl

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 7:09 a.m.

historymatters: Thursday's complainant hopefully damaged the credibility of those plotting a coup. We shall have to see. Best, Don Bauder

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historymatters Aug. 16, 2013 @ 12:34 a.m.

The clincher for me w/ Burdick is that she handed the keys to his office to Lansdowne...why would she do that?

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 7:11 a.m.

historymatters: A lot has to be sorted out. Best, Don Bauder

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monaghan Aug. 16, 2013 @ 1:32 p.m.

I have not seen this charge anywhere else. Is this true? If true, it certainly would be bad karma for Mayor Filner.

Our Police Chief Lansdowne is in like Flynn with Sheriff Gore (who has the bizarre and unprecedented Filner hot-line), District Attorney Dumanis who openly opposes Filner, ex-Mayor and Chamber of Commerce head Jerry Sanders and all manner of other Republican plotters.

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historymatters Aug. 16, 2013 @ 11:58 p.m.

it is 100% true even admitted by Burdick. i can not see any reason she would give the keys to him...the very group she is supposedly protecting him from. I guess we will see shortly if she is a shill or not. But the keys to Lansdowne...I cant think of a scenario where that would make sense.

If she was really interested in protecting him she would have given the keys to Filners attorney or Filner.

Her profile is very similar to the profile of the accusers. High up in the Port Commission which is VERY interested in developing Balboa Park. Its hard for me to imagine someone getting so high up at the Port who wasnt on "the Team". Im sure they vet those people well to make sure they share the agenda.

I just think her job was to get Filner to disclose as much as possible thinking they had attorney client privilege (did u c how fast she turned her pad over to Goldsmith) then give up her notes under threat of lawsuit.

Then champion him in the MSM. then resign saying he was awful to work for and created a hostile work environment. She just didnt seem gung ho...there was something off w/ her.

I know Pat strongly disagrees and maybe he knows more than I do...I just have a bad feeling about her...always have.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 9:03 a.m.

monaghan: Sanders was in essence head of the Chamber of Commerce while he was mayor. Best, Don Bauder

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historymatters Aug. 16, 2013 @ 1:03 a.m.

Like I said the KEY to getting SD back is our vote counting system. We MUST demand hand counts. These same criminals are running our elections. Filner was not supposed to win. Thats why the polls showed him losing. Someone at the registrars office is in big trouble for that I guarantee it.

Read about who and how are elections are run. Its chilling. Please know this is very connected to this. We have to fight hard for Filner. I bet there is an attorney out there that would do his case pro bono. Do NOT give up people. There is WAY TOO much at stake. http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs...

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 7:14 a.m.

historymatters: There is no question: a lot is at stake -- especially for those who want the people, not the downtown interests, to run San Diego. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 16, 2013 @ 10:31 a.m.

Actually, history, at the time I think it was only the U-T poll that showed him losing. I agree that he was not supposed to win.

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patflannery Aug. 16, 2013 @ 1:34 a.m.

historymatters; Everybody knows that Chief Lansdowne is a dyed-in-the-wool Republican. Filner's security detail works for him therefore Lansdowne has total access anyway.

Goldsmith would have alleged that the Mayor's office had been tampered with during Filner's absence so Burdick changed the locks and gave Lansdowne the key. Therefore if anybody tampered with evidence it would have been Lansdowne.

I have every confidence in Lee. She is a smart girl and will see us through this.

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 7:16 a.m.

Pat: I am glad you have faith in Lee Burdick. Hopefully, she can thwart this plot. But as of Friday morning, as I have said, the odds appear to be that the coup will go forward. It could possibly be out of her hands. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 16, 2013 @ 10:33 a.m.

Pat: Good, wholesome attitude. I appreciate it.

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 12:50 p.m.

Yankeedoodle: I have heard Burdick is now holding meetings in hallways and remote corners where she cannot be snooped upon. That one IS a rumor. Best, Don Bauder

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monaghan Aug. 16, 2013 @ 1:43 p.m.

OMG, Flannery calls Lee Burdick a "girl." Call him up on charges pronto!

Seriously, Pat, I am glad/relieved to know you have confidence in her. I want to believe this is going to work out.

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historymatters Aug. 16, 2013 @ 5:49 p.m.

well I am open to that possibility Pat. Everything is upside down right now. I hope you are right. I just see how enormous this coup is. I wonder if anyone would have though Vince Hall would have turned on him? I think when there is this much money at stake its gonna be hard to find people who wont take the money to turn on him.

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 16, 2013 @ 6:18 p.m.

History: None of us would. So presumably there are others.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 9:05 a.m.

historymatters: Much of what went wrong was the fault of Vince Hall. He was never up to the job. Best, Don Bauder

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Diogenes Aug. 16, 2013 @ 10:01 a.m.

I am sure that Filner will undergo a brain scan to rule out frontal and pre-frontal lobe lesions. Parkinson's, Pick's disease, and certain early Alzheimer's dementias are within the differential diagnosis. Then, a complete neuropsychological battery of tests, then rule out OCD and bipolar disorder, etc.

I know Filner personally and worked on his campaign as well as being a relatively large campaign contributor. I met his ex-fiancee', too.

I am very familiar with the medical/legal issues he is facing. I am also very concerned with Filner on a personal level.

I review brain scans with physicians frequently. In fact, just yesterday I reviewed several brain scans at Scripps Clinic with a physician showing an inner ear lesion as it developed over a course of time. That information was correlated with cervical scans and other medical tests.

Some things are characterological and personality disorder-based. An MMPI would help there with a good clinical interview and history.

Behavior is a complex thing. I have studied it for almost 50 years. My primary profession is not medicine, but I have dealt professionally with many behavioral issues in a medical/legal context during the past 35 years.

It will be interesting to see the workup presented as a defense, if it comes to that.

Would you blame someone with Tourette's syndrome for cursing?

He says he has a problem. Just what that problem is remains a mystery. Therefore, the moral and legal judgment to be applied will vary with the diagnosis.

I assume that since "therapy" is being used, that no organic basis has been found. There are medications that can eliminate testosterone-based behavior. Aversion therapy, such as having to look at Gloria Allred is known to work.

If Filner has no organic explanation for the alleged behavior, and the testing does not assist in making a diagnosis, then it is likely that there are fewer mitigating circumstances.

Filner is atypical. The pattern of the alleged assaults are unusual. Why would he stroke a great, grandmother's hand? Well, one has to understand this type of brain problem to understand that, if it is true.

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 16, 2013 @ 10:43 a.m.

Diogenes: Excellent summary of medical options. I also like the aversion therapy. A lot of ageism going on with implications that people who are 70 shouldn't be sexually active, and that the mayor crossed the line into insanity being friendly with a great grandmother. How is her maternal status relevant? Perhaps we shall find out at trial.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 9:07 a.m.

Yankeedoodle: If the conspirators have their way, there will never be a trial. That's how Oxbow Incidents work. Best, Don Bauder

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Anon92107 Aug. 16, 2013 @ 12:46 p.m.

Diogenes, best hypothesis so far, and San Diego has some of the greatest neuroscientists in the world to advise.

If you are following in Diogenes' footsteps, stoicism could be most helpful in this situation.

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Diogenes Aug. 16, 2013 @ 2 p.m.

That's good, Anon92107.

The situation with Filner certainly is a classical tragedy, Greek or otherwise.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 9:09 a.m.

Anon92107: We have to consider the possibility of neurological problems. But we ALSO have to realize that there may be no such problems. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 17, 2013 @ 2:03 p.m.

Don: I would suspect the latter, but then, I have only met him briefly when volunteering and attending debates, so have no personal knowledge of his behavior. All I ever heard was that he was combative, which is a normal personality trait, and all I ever saw was him being polite but quite direct. That was entirely different from any politician I have seen, whether I was for or against that person being in office.

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 12:55 p.m.

Diogenes: I have all along hoped that a neurological exam was part of his dealings with a professional. Best, Don Bauder

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Diogenes Aug. 16, 2013 @ 2:18 p.m.

A psychologist would have to refer to a neurologist who could order the brain scans. I assume, however, that this was ruled out, along with other medical conditions, although we do not know.

If there was a brain lesion, then Filner might not want to admit that at this point for legal reasons.

When patients are in a lawsuit, or politics are involved, the clinical picture is clouded.

In litigation, iA UCSD Medical Center study 25-years ago, claimed that your back will never heal if you have a lawyer, at least in workers compensation.

Filner was convicted of the TSA assault as an infraction; that was not sexual, but still could have evidenced impulse control issues. That could be due to organic brain issues, or, again, could be bipolar disorder, or characterological.

The brain lesion defense would be a mitigating factor if Filner had to face trial, civil or criminal. Bipolar, less so. Personality or character disorder, not so much.

As in A Clockwork Orange, aversion therapy might work, although, in the "real final chapter" published only in 2004, the therapy did not work. In the original version of the book and the movie, it did, to make a happier ending and sell the movie to the public.

There are justification, excuse and mitigating circumstances. A brain problem does NOT excuse under California law unless the defendant does not know the nature of his act and that his act is wrong. That is called "insanity." You will not find that term in the DSM 5.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 9:12 a.m.

Diogenes: Your explanations are helpful. But again, we don't know that neurological problems are behind the mayor's alleged behavior. I use the word "alleged" because we have to question the credibility of the accusers until they can be questioned at length. Best, Don Bauder

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BlueSouthPark Aug. 16, 2013 @ 10:05 a.m.

No one wants to vet any of the accusers, or suggest that anything about them might deserve a look. whatever. But you have to give Logan Jenkins credit for dreaming up absurd theater. He writes of his brave new hero, Peggy Lou: "How could Filner (who, it should be noted, is three years older than Shannon) have bragged to a great-grandmother that he could go “eight hours straight”? (And here the Greek chorus thought four hours required a call to the doctor.) No question, older women don’t have it easy in this culture that worships erotically charged youth."

Not sure what Jenkins is implying with the 3-year age difference - at ages 67 and 70, so what? - but that aside, does he know that Peggy Lou is one of the millions of interested worshippers of "erotically charged youth"? How could Filner find himself in a weird convo with Peggy Lou? Here's how: She loves her reality TV, no shame in that. but it's something we should all be informed about her. Surely she's able to talk about all kinds of interesting erotically charged subjects. She particularly loves Ru Paul's Drag Race. If you don't know what that is:

"sexual innuendo (including references to various sex acts and blurred nudity) and a fair bit of strong language (the term “bitch” is used continuously, while curses like f--k and s--t are bleeped). The show supports the gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgendered community, while simultaneously sending the message that drag queens must be overly sexualized in order to succeed. It also promotes self-acceptance."

You MUST pen another opinion piece, Logan, and put this in context. Because my gramma needs to understand.

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 1 p.m.

BlueSouthPark: Sophisticated people in town have laughed at how the press has been sucked into this political ploy, and refrained from asking any tough questions when given a palpably ridiculous statement.

But it isn't just naivete. When you see a reporter or columnist take nonsense at face value without challenging it, consider one thing: whom he or she works for.

Fear of losing a job has contributed to this lack of reportorial skepticism. Best, Don Bauder

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Psycholizard Aug. 16, 2013 @ 11:18 a.m.

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BlueSouthPark Aug. 16, 2013 @ 11:45 a.m.

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 1:07 p.m.

BlueSouthPark: I believe this comment is in bad taste. Best, Don Bauder

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BlueSouthPark Aug. 16, 2013 @ 1:14 p.m.

Yep. But bad taste isn't against the law! My point, exactly. Ditto below.

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BlueSouthPark Aug. 16, 2013 @ 11:53 a.m.

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 1:08 p.m.

BlueSouthPark: This is another one in bad taste. Best, Don Bauder

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Psycholizard Aug. 16, 2013 @ 1:25 p.m.

Let's aim at the lawyers, I'm like Bob Filner, her illness tugs at my heart. I admire her spunk for making her way to work. She's lovable, it's the snake wrapped around her that's repulsive.

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 1:05 p.m.

Psycholizard: The credibility of recent accusers has led some to believe that the sexual harassment case is breaking down. That's why the city attorney is going for the clearly dubious credit card charges as a way to oust Filner.

The breaking down of the sexual harassment case would be a positive development, but it is premature to say it is happening. Best, Don Bauder

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Psycholizard Aug. 16, 2013 @ 1:11 p.m.

What's noteworthy in all accounts, is Filner's polite language, and the eroticised imaginations of those who heard him. When he refers to handcuffs, she doesn't think he's thinking about arresting one of the many crooks leeching on the City, but assumes he wants to party. When he offers to discuss a matter over dinner, they assume he's offering to trade favor for favor. After one is labeled a sexual predator, sex is the antecedent of all plausible pronouns. "Let's do that."...proposition for sex. "I'd like to buy it."...solicitation of prostitution. "I got eight hours last night.".....sexual bragging.

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Don Bauder Aug. 16, 2013 @ 1:30 p.m.

Psycholizard: I think there are definite parts of these conversations in which Filner was either joking, or the self-professed victim was imagining something he was neither saying nor implying. Best, Don Bauder

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monaghan Aug. 16, 2013 @ 1:54 p.m.

Beginning with Diogenes' outrageous speculative medical sidewalk-superintending about the Mayor and extending to Blue South Parks' removed comments and her description of Logan Jenkins' unfortunate and weird column, I think this dialog has gone off the deep end. I wish everyone a great weekend!

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BlueSouthPark Aug. 16, 2013 @ 2:12 p.m.

You and the deep end, shallow end references. We must try 8 hours without Reader!

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Diogenes Aug. 16, 2013 @ 3:44 p.m.

Monaghan,

Satyriasis due to fronto-temporal lobe pathology was suggested by others at VoiceofSanDiego. Some of us are familiar with beharioral and medical issues. They provided citations to studies published in 2013. Filner might have some or none these acts. That he did some of these acts is a possibility that we must entertain at this point. If he did it then why?

This is not outrageous speculation if he did it. 16 women lying or Filner did it. Or something in between.

It could be ego or some power trip. Or maybe a political conspiracy. The point is that we do not know.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 9:16 a.m.

monaghan: Weekend? What's that? I will be sitting her answering the posts, and, hopefully, putting up some other posts. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 16, 2013 @ 4 p.m.

Diogenes:

I think that for now, monaghan has a point...further speculation is bootless until and unless something has been proven that indicates there is actually something seriously wrong with our Mayor. So far, the worst that I can see is his failure to take the viciousness of his opponents seriously. I think that has now been remedied, and with some rehab under his belt and a dash of charm school he should be ready to roll after the August break.

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Diogenes Aug. 16, 2013 @ 4:37 p.m.

I deal with registered sex offenders who must wear an ankle bracket and be tracked by GPS.

Persons who offend repeatedly with boundary issues should have a complete work up to rule out organicity. Call this outrageous, if you wish.

I like Filner but am a defender of civil rights of women. I am a progressive and have been involved on civil rights issues in court. I have never seen 16 women come forward and lie. Filner is a progressive whom I supported with money. time and effort despite the reservations of other progressives in San Diego who said that they had him for longer than I. I dare say that I secured some key endorsements for Filner that made the difference in hos election. Therefore, I must determine both the veracity of these serious charges and the possible causes to determine my next move. I hope that therapy can help. He admitted that he had a problem. In 12-step work, one must get honest to seek help. Did anyone believe Bush got over booze by finding God in one weekend? Is Arnold a new man?

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Psycholizard Aug. 16, 2013 @ 5:04 p.m.

The women aren't lying, the media is when it claims these are all sexual harassment charges. This case is certainly unique. Remember, of the tens of thousands he has touched while taking pictures, very few are coming forward with complaints, and they report that he stayed within important boundaries, both in conversation and touch. The man is not unrestrained, local law enforcement and media are.

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laplayaheritage Aug. 17, 2013 @ 1:47 a.m.

These women are courageous. The mayor was long overdue for a wake up call and public intervention. Thankfully Donna Frye, Marco Gonzalez, and Cory Briggs spoke Truth to Power called the mayor out on his improper intimidating behavior towards women. Especially in the work place.

No malice. Trying to be cute. Clueless. Similar to Pepe Le Pew.

http://tinyurl.com/PepeLePewSD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepé_Le_Pew

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 9:11 p.m.

Diogenes: Yes, sometimes in this colloquy we forget that Filner admitted he has problems. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 9:19 a.m.

Yankeedoodle: I am sure Filner recognizes the viciousness of his opponents. But I think he has the right strategy in shutting up. Past contrived sex scandals show pretty clearly that the worst defense is attacking the accusers. The best defense is silence. Best, Don Bauder

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shirleyberan Aug. 16, 2013 @ 4:30 p.m.

And this culture has condoned silly (sick) behavior for decades. He hasn't matured in that department and maybe he thinks he's a funny fun guy. You are aware of the Hugh Heffner worshiping syndrome?! Some women set themselves up, some are lying for a reason, some overreact, some have really been touched inappropriately... Don't know the distance of personal space. I'd like to see more outrage at plenty of other sexual abuse where it lives day to day, like pimps and other bully sex- trafficking, since US is #1 in the world in that.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 9:21 a.m.

shirleyberan: The Filner episode hasn't even come close to the offenses of Bill Clinton, Vitter, Spitzer, Weiner, ad nauseam. Best, Don Bauder

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Psycholizard Aug. 16, 2013 @ 4:39 p.m.

The allegations pile up, but the gaps in evidence seem more striking by the week. There is no record of any sexual harassment claim before the media frenzy. There is no claim from outside the frenzy in Washington DC where Bob Filner worked for twenty years. There are no pictures to support claims, even though the alleged events, in nearly every case, occurred in public, and in some cases under constant video surveillance. Some of the allegations, the Marilyn impersonator's for instance, occurred while posing for pictures, yet those pictures, presumably taken down from office walls, aren't shown as proof of guilt. Just one picture, one recording, one document. We're waiting.

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Diogenes Aug. 16, 2013 @ 4:50 p.m.

Have to agree that Filner was having fun but 16 witnesses are impossible to beat in a civil case where the burden of proof is by a mere preponderance of the evidence by 9 of 12 jurors.

Anyone willing to bet?

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 16, 2013 @ 5:41 p.m.

Diogenes: Well, I was a juror on a civil case once in which the quality of the witnesses was such that every new witness for the one side, and it had the most by far, served only to hurt that case. The result was that all those witnesses caused us to decide in favor of the other side. So it can happen.

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Diogenes Aug. 17, 2013 @ 8:02 a.m.

Sitting on one jury is an isolated experience. Try practicing for 35 years. I have seen hundreds of hostile work cases. Being a practical joker by making joking sexual advances or innuendos constitues a violation of the law.

We old men have yet to free ourselves from the old school thinking. Had Filner completed his training, he would have understood that he was giving ammunition to his enemies and dividing the progressives who supported him.

I have to complete elimination of bias courses every three years and file proof of completion.

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Ponzi Aug. 16, 2013 @ 8:47 p.m.

I'm willing to wager it never makes it to trial.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 9:23 a.m.

Psycholizard: Yes, evidence is weak. But that's not important in a lynching. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 9:14 p.m.

Psycholizard: Again, evidence isn't needed when hysteria reigns. Best, Don Bauder

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shirleyberan Aug. 16, 2013 @ 5:04 p.m.

Don't know but I know he was a Freedom Rider way back and that took a pair of big ones! And if I ever met him I would tell him that.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 9:25 a.m.

shirleyberan: Yes, he was a Freedom Rider -- and also fought for women's rights during his entire time as a politician. Best, Don Bauder

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Psycholizard Aug. 16, 2013 @ 5:31 p.m.

Diogenes, very few of these witnesses would be allowed in court, two or three maybe. The latest one would be a witness for the defense possibly, because she shows that Filner is easily misunderstood. and pours on the honey without any sexual intent. I would certainly take your bet with the evidence so far. Allred needs more to go to trial, that's why she keeps hyping Filner's deposition. She's fishing, and thinks Filner has something to hide. We all do, except for you Diogenes, who in the spirit of your ancient namesake, presumably lives naked in the streets.

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Ponzi Aug. 16, 2013 @ 9:01 p.m.

If this case ever makes it to trial, it is possible all of the witnesses could be called. But in reality, none of them would be very helpful because the case is about the allegations of Irene McCormack-Jackson. Many of the other women who came forward would be liabilities as witnesses in such a case. Allred keeps bringing people forward as Trojan Horses to demand that Filner resign. She demands he resigns at each of her press conferences. It behooves her to demand he resign because if he does, he becomes a very weakened legal opponent. It is increasingly obvious that she is more determined to bring him to resign through humiliation and grinding away at what support remains, that her "victims" are becoming more like tools of her law firm. Make no doubt about it, Gloria Allred is in this for money. She is a lawyer and legal fees and settlements are her stock-in-trade.

She makes a big deal of the depositions because she knows most people have no clue what a deposition is. It is not a court hearing, it is a meeting, using in an office or public conference room, where a person is asked a series of questions. Questions of which are carefully crafted to trap the deposed into making errors, mistakes or omissions that can be highlighted and used to damn the persons credibility. That is about all it is. There's no need to rush a deposition when the case conference is not on calendar until next year. Allred is just framing this to make it look like Filner has something to hide and delay the case. Her rush to take depositions is unusual and is just a way for her to leak more details to the press. I have doubt that she is being genuine about bringing this matter before a jury. It will be settled and she damn well knows it.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 9:27 a.m.

Psycholizard: Yes, the original Diogenes did just what you say: slept naked in the streets -- among other things. Best, Don Bauder

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paulmclarke Aug. 16, 2013 @ 7:55 p.m.

Hey Don, Why oh why do you insist on making this a false dichotomy choice between a scumbag like Filthy Filner and the Corporate Welfare Queens who lord over downtown San Diego?

Why can't we have neither? Filner is toast. The longer you fail to accept that fact and plan for an alternative, the more you deplete the credibility you've built up through the years.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 9:30 a.m.

paulmclarke: Sorry. This dichotomy exists. The downtown corporate welfare queens are financing the lynching. If Filner goes -- quite likely -- the replacement will almost certainly be either a Republican or a DINO like Gloria or Fletcher. The insane convention center expansion will go ahead. An even more insane Chargers stadium, probably costing the taxpayers $800 million, will go forward. Best, Don Bauder

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shirleyberan Aug. 16, 2013 @ 8:07 p.m.

We're gonna pick up the bill for a new election, and the court proceedings anyway. This is railroading in the finest city and really stinks of whose friends put most money to getting him out and campaign convincingly and pretty, truth doesn't matter. How dumb do we have to be for you to be happy?

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 9:32 a.m.

shirleyberan: In this environment, truth indeed doesn't matter. Best, Don Bauder

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Diogenes Aug. 16, 2013 @ 8:49 p.m.

Filner should not have admitted anything. Going into therapy is a tacit admission. Unfortunately, the mea culpa worked against him.

Ever see someone in AA on a court report card saying that driving at 100 mph with a blood alcohol of .25 does not mean that he has a drinking problem? With a parade of witnesses who are coached by many attorneys and encouraged by law enforcement, too, in a civil case, the odds are against Filner. Don Bauder said this himself earlier on.

One should admit nothing, but the guy with the .25 BA is at least a periodic alcoholic, a binge drinker. Periodic bingers get into auto accidents.

Many lawyers would take McCormack's case. They need 9 jurors. With 16 witnesses, it may come down to who the trial judge is. If it is Richard Strauss, he is one of the best. It is getting to trial that costs so much.

Filner's fiance bailed out on him. She was no Hillary Clinton. That hurts, too.

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Ponzi Aug. 16, 2013 @ 9:16 p.m.

The difference with DUI and sexual harassment is evidence. Chemical tests furnish evidence, that speaks for itself. This sexual harassment is a 'he-said, she-said" matter that has to be presented to a jury and let them sort out the evidence and credibility of the parties. Again, I believe the case will be settled and never seat a jury. Don't be fooled by that human pit bull Gloria Allred.

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Diogenes Aug. 16, 2013 @ 10:27 p.m.

Has she ever tried a jury case? Usually, she just has uncontested press conferences.

Cory Briggs talked of abuse by the City Council when he, Marko and the tearful Donna make their vicarious Swan song.

In an ideal world, the vast right wing conspiracy would be exposed and go to jail.

I hope Filner fights to the end. The last victim actually said that she didn't want a date. Filner must have been being sarcastic, as I've stated before.

He said, she said is all it is. But how many innocent men have been convicted of rape and later DNA proved they were innocent?

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historymatters Aug. 16, 2013 @ 11:48 p.m.

thats why I think Burdick gave him this advice and think she is probably a shill. I cant imagine a good attorney advising him to say or do that.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 9:34 a.m.

Diogenes: Filner's engagement may have been the genesis of this whole matter. Sorry I can't give more details. Best, Don Bauder

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patflannery Aug. 17, 2013 @ 12:22 p.m.

Don: you must have heard the same rumor I did - that Irene was sweet on him up until then.

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Ponzi Aug. 16, 2013 @ 10:41 p.m.

Rome is burning. But just not in San Diego, it's an epidemic. Look at the local Hannah Anderson abduction. Chic is posting "selfies" smiling like a Cheshire cat days after learning her mother and brother we murdered. Our culture and the American society is unraveling and honor, trust, respect and valor are no more. We call police and firefighters "heros." WTF? They get paid big buck and big pensions to do that job. Hero's are people that come upon an opportunity to save the day. Trust. Wall Street anyone? And then we trust our regulators to watch Wall Street? Our country is experiencing a vast and rapid default of values and I fear we are going to wake up to a country vastly different in a few years, than we arise to today. Media sharks like UT-San Diego and KGTV-10 are forces to be reckoned with. They are recklessly steering the attitudes and beliefs of hundreds of thousands of citizens. I don't like what I have heard about Filner, but I am much more concerned about the power of these media whores abusing their power to push this story without any respect for due process. It is getting out of control. Rational people have to stop at the cliff and look down before jumping into this abyss. Filner is not going to harm or pester anyone now, so we should calm down and let the system work. This is really becoming a mob mentality and I am feeling ashamed of it. San Diego may feel Filner should resign, but if we also believe in due process, we need to take a break and let the dust settle and be reasonable. The last Gloria Allred press conference was not televised in real time. Even the local media is getting tired of it. Some pundits say that Filner is using a "Russian retreat" tactic to let the noise level die down. Regardless, it might be a good idea for San Diego, if the media quit this for a while and give us a break. After all, if any of us are embarrassed or concerned about the reputation or repercussions San Diego is suffering from these stories, it is the media... that is perpetuating and nurturing this story. Filner has been silent for a couple of weeks. The mass media is who are making San Diego a spectacle. Think about it.

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 16, 2013 @ 11:03 p.m.

Other than that, it's shaping up to be a groovy weekend! The ocean is halcyon.

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Ponzi Aug. 16, 2013 @ 11:44 p.m.

Dude, surf's up! Agreed, time for a beach break.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 9:38 a.m.

Ponzi: Your essay is an excellent one. Your analysis of the nation's problems is sound. We HAVE become a Third World country in many respects.

The local media are irresponsible -- and that ties into ownership and financial backing questions. The mob mentality is ubiquitous in San Diego. Best, Don Bauder

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Diogenes Aug. 17, 2013 @ 6:48 a.m.

Putting aside Cory and Marko, why would Donna Frye lead the charge? She seemed reluctant a year ago to go after influence peddling downtown by developers. I found that strange. She shied away from the openess in government program Filner tried to set up.

Cory seemed to have some lawsuits against the city and was concerned about corruption.....

The palace coup started early on.

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Don Bauder Aug. 17, 2013 @ 9:42 a.m.

Diogenes: I think those who purportedly started this are now sorry about the monster they created -- or think they created. At least, they should be. Best, Don Bauder

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patflannery Aug. 17, 2013 @ 12:53 p.m.

Diogenes: because she thought she could become mayor herself. She figured every woman in town would write her in.

When Filner hired her she knew it could never be for more than 90 days. She knew (and everybody else knew too) that she did not have the votes on City Council to override the municipal code. And Steve Hadley had to come as an $80,000 extra, for reasons I won't go into.

Knowing all that, why did she take the job? What recommendations did she make to Bob that proved disastrous for him? He trusted her completely.

Yes, the palace coup started early on.

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Don Bauder Aug. 19, 2013 @ 9:46 a.m.

Pat: I believe Donna did not have access to Mayor Filner or to the then-chief of staff. I believe she was frustrated when she could not get her open government agenda put front and center.

But I certainly hope that was not her motivation for coming forward as she did. Best, Don Bauder

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laplayaheritage Aug. 17, 2013 @ 1:01 p.m.

Goldsmith finally admitted to the Restraining Order plan, as part of the Palace Coup.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-mayor-restrain-20130816,0,737108.story

"City May Seek Restraining Order Barring Filner From City Hall. by Tony Perry. LA Times 08/16/2013 7:13 pm.

"It is a possibility, as a last resort." Deputy City Attorney Spokeman Michael Giorgineo."

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Don Bauder Aug. 19, 2013 @ 9:48 a.m.

laplayaheritage: Yes, I have quoted that LA Times article, which basically confirms what my sources have been telling me. Best, Don Bauder

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