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Filner, Goldsmith slated to meet tomorrow

City attorney seeks settlement tied to resignation; but does he have anything in his hand?

As of today (Sunday, Aug. 18), Mayor Bob Filner and City Attorney Jan Goldsmith are scheduled to meet tomorrow at an undisclosed location, probably not on City property. The meeting could be delayed or canceled, of course.

The mayor will be given the chance to see the possible charges against him by the city attorney's office, and possibly by the other government agencies (state, federal, and local) that are trying to come up with something against him.

Goldsmith has been working with L.A. attorney Gloria Allred to see if a little-used legal stratagem can be disinterred against the mayor on sex harassment or other sex-related charges. Goldsmith has also been fishing for financial violations, which at this point look quite thin and forced.

The U.S. Attorney is looking at two deals with real estate developers that appear to be civil, not criminal, in nature. The Attorney General's office has been in on meetings with Allred; the sheriff's office has come up with a hotline (whose legality has been questioned) to try to get women to come forward with harassment or related charges.

I have called this an "intergovernmental extra-legal coup attempt," because I believe it clearly is. But Filner, looking at his financial ability to fight the various charges, whether valid or not, will have to decide on the merit of what Goldsmith has. (Of course, Goldsmith may only be discussing what his office plans to do -- not the other governmental bodies.)

The last I heard, Filner is not inclined to resign at this point.

On Friday, Goldsmith told NBC 7 that he will give Filner an "out" to end the stalemate. There could possibly be a "global settlement," according to NBC. Global settlements are among multiple parties, often involving both criminal and civil charges.

NBC said that a settlement could "perhaps erase, or at least limit, Filner's personal liability." According to my sources, the settlement would hinge on Filner resigning. In my own opinion, I believe Filner would be forced to keep the settlement quiet, lest people challenge the legality of the government actions.

Goldsmith is fishing for still another so-called Filner violation. Goldsmith told NBC that Filner may have misled Allred and the city attorney's office to avoid answering questions in the Irene McCormack Jackson harassment suit that Allred filed.

Goldsmith also told NBC 7 that Filner could face additional lawsuits filed by women who claimed he sexually harassed them. However, I am hearing that Goldsmith and Allred are having problems finding witnesses. At least one female in Filner's office has been pressured to file a complaint, but refuses to do so.

So the court case or cases could come down to "he said, she said" allegations. The question is that in the frenzy that has been created by a biased and bumptious media, could jurors objectively decide which side to believe?

One of Filner's problems is that his manner is casual, friendly, joking, and flirtatious -- leading to the kind of badinage that existed between the sexes in the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s, before the sexual harassment movement gained legal traction. Filner might try to use this as a defense.

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As of today (Sunday, Aug. 18), Mayor Bob Filner and City Attorney Jan Goldsmith are scheduled to meet tomorrow at an undisclosed location, probably not on City property. The meeting could be delayed or canceled, of course.

The mayor will be given the chance to see the possible charges against him by the city attorney's office, and possibly by the other government agencies (state, federal, and local) that are trying to come up with something against him.

Goldsmith has been working with L.A. attorney Gloria Allred to see if a little-used legal stratagem can be disinterred against the mayor on sex harassment or other sex-related charges. Goldsmith has also been fishing for financial violations, which at this point look quite thin and forced.

The U.S. Attorney is looking at two deals with real estate developers that appear to be civil, not criminal, in nature. The Attorney General's office has been in on meetings with Allred; the sheriff's office has come up with a hotline (whose legality has been questioned) to try to get women to come forward with harassment or related charges.

I have called this an "intergovernmental extra-legal coup attempt," because I believe it clearly is. But Filner, looking at his financial ability to fight the various charges, whether valid or not, will have to decide on the merit of what Goldsmith has. (Of course, Goldsmith may only be discussing what his office plans to do -- not the other governmental bodies.)

The last I heard, Filner is not inclined to resign at this point.

On Friday, Goldsmith told NBC 7 that he will give Filner an "out" to end the stalemate. There could possibly be a "global settlement," according to NBC. Global settlements are among multiple parties, often involving both criminal and civil charges.

NBC said that a settlement could "perhaps erase, or at least limit, Filner's personal liability." According to my sources, the settlement would hinge on Filner resigning. In my own opinion, I believe Filner would be forced to keep the settlement quiet, lest people challenge the legality of the government actions.

Goldsmith is fishing for still another so-called Filner violation. Goldsmith told NBC that Filner may have misled Allred and the city attorney's office to avoid answering questions in the Irene McCormack Jackson harassment suit that Allred filed.

Goldsmith also told NBC 7 that Filner could face additional lawsuits filed by women who claimed he sexually harassed them. However, I am hearing that Goldsmith and Allred are having problems finding witnesses. At least one female in Filner's office has been pressured to file a complaint, but refuses to do so.

So the court case or cases could come down to "he said, she said" allegations. The question is that in the frenzy that has been created by a biased and bumptious media, could jurors objectively decide which side to believe?

One of Filner's problems is that his manner is casual, friendly, joking, and flirtatious -- leading to the kind of badinage that existed between the sexes in the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s, before the sexual harassment movement gained legal traction. Filner might try to use this as a defense.

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RE: "Filner might try to use this as a defense." He would be a fool to do so. It's been said thousands of times: Ignorantia juris non excusat. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Aug. 18, 2013

dwbat: It depends on how it is presented by his lawyers, if this ever gets to court. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

If the lawyers use that lame defense tactic, Filner better fire his lawyers.

Aug. 19, 2013

dwbat: The fact that Filner has an easy-going personality, jokes around, engages in badinage, could be worked into the case. Indeed, of the 16 women who have come forward, I think Filner was simply teasing in several of them. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

perhaps only a bunch of "old people" (over 60+ and 70+ years old), particularly any such "old men," on a jury would probably buy that defense if they are still living like old school "Mad Men" from the 19yesteryears of the 20th Century. lol

Aug. 19, 2013

MeReader: Those of us over 70 would be eliminated in the voir dire process. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Well some definitely would, after a few questions to learn their thoughts or writings about sexual harassment.

Aug. 20, 2013

And for Goldsmith, ignoring or changing the law he is supposed to protect, is grounds for a lawsuit or a recall. Don - is this extortion yet?

Aug. 18, 2013

shirleyberan: Much as a recall of Goldsmith would be desirable, it is not going to happen in this environment. His strategy of getting on TV endlessly could get him elected mayor -- God help San Diego. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

The dye is cast! Recall petitions are circulating around the city. I signed today. USPS may need extra trucks to deliver thousands of signed petitions to the Recall Bob Filner office on Navajo Road.

Aug. 18, 2013

dwbat: Yes, the recall petitions are all around. A recall would be a democratic process. A government-forced resignation would not. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

The phrase is: the die is cast (not "dye is cast").

Aug. 18, 2013

I stand corrected!

Aug. 18, 2013

dwbat: Apologize to Caesar, not Burwell. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Well, "dye" IS appropriate if we're discussing Goldsmith's hair.

Aug. 18, 2013

KayL: How common is dying a hairpiece? Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

A hairpiece is, by definition, dead.

Aug. 19, 2013

Twister: Touche! Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Good point. I just couldn't resist the pun.

Aug. 19, 2013

KayL: Get thee to a punnery! Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Burwell: You are correct. Julius Caesar rolled over in his grave upon reading "dye is cast." Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Tomorrow the president of the local Hell's Angels chapter is going to hold a press conference with Goldsmith in front of City Hall and demand Filner's resignation. Channel 10 taped a segment with White supremacist and former San Diegan Tom Metzger who is also calling on Filner to resign. Even Metzger is offended by Filner's actions.

Aug. 18, 2013

Sounds like a story line from Walter Mencken's Almost Factual News!

Aug. 19, 2013

William9195: Except it's a little more factual than Walter's essays. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Burwell: Doesn't (or didn't) Metzger live in Vista? Could he sign the petition? Indeed, can he write his name? Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Dwbat: Because your correction of Bauder's hyphen in 'extralegal' indicates a delicate sensibility in regard to usage and form, I feel you will want to know that the expression you use here indicates a single die being thrown, and is thus spelled 'die' not 'dye' as you did. Alternatively, you could go with the original Greek, Anerriphtho ho kybos.

Aug. 19, 2013

Yankeedoodle: We should all die for the typos and outright errors made on this blog. Goldsmith may sentence us to death -- the penalty he wanted for the chalker. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

And rightly so. As for me, being without...

Aug. 19, 2013

It's "die,"as in singular of dice, Dweebat. I'm glad you finally signed the recall and got it off your chest. My not signing cancels out your vote.

Aug. 19, 2013

Well, 9 more people in my apt. building signed, so we're 9 ahead!

Aug. 20, 2013

Frances Zimmerman: My name is David--not "Dweebat." Your name calling is childish. So let's be civil.

Aug. 20, 2013

I think we got 100 at the "pivotal" downtown rally, I was there and watched. Gloria spoke and so did Palaneder. This is a big fat failure judging by the pathetic attendance of the "concerned" citizens, heck there were more media people than regular folk. FAIL FAIL FAIL!!

My Mayor Bob, 3 more years!!

The sooner you kids capitulate, the better for all!

Aug. 18, 2013

Who is "Palaneder"? Did you mean Pallamary? By the way, I saw reports on TV, and there were NOT more media people there than participants. Your statement is false.

Aug. 18, 2013

He cared enough to go there, he knows more than you. Apparently you believe your TV set, which explains a lot. You're joking about contradicting an in person witness with a TV report I hope. Right??

Aug. 19, 2013

Not joking. His statement was a flat out lie.

Aug. 19, 2013

dwbat: Some day you have to learn that people are often kidding. You take everything too seriously. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

His tone did not sound like kidding.

Aug. 19, 2013

strata66: Do you mean Pallamary? Not sure I know who Palaneder is. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

Strata66: The U-T said this morning it was 300. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

I'm asking this as a reporter, so I'm looking for comments (by people with real names) that I can quote.

If you believe the mayor deserves "due process" and is not getting through the recall effort: Please define what due process means. At what point is due process over and it's time for him to quit or be removed?

Does he need to be convicted of a felony? A misdemeanor? Of a specific type of crime?

Does he need to be sentenced to jail? To prison?

Would a civil verdict against him be enough? What if it's for $1 in damages?

Would you wait for appeals to run out? Or is a verdict/conviction enough?

Aug. 18, 2013

Randy: You are a PR machine for Irwin Jacobs but I will answer your baited questions:

He needs to be convicted of a felony period.

Yes he needs to be sentenced to jail

No a civil verdict would not be enough...How about Jerry Sanders being guilty of the unlawful firing of Scott Kessler? not a peep from you "reporters" about that. Don was the only journalist on that story.

Yes, we would absolutely wait for appeals to run out.

What do you not understand about due process Randy? i think you need to do some research on the 5th amendment....

Aug. 18, 2013

historymatters: Randy says he is a reporter, not a PR machine. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

Due process is covered by the 5th and 14th amendments!

Aug. 18, 2013

dwbat: Sounds like you are finally doing some homework on the topic. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Thanks for the response.

I am not a PR machine for anyone. I have disagreed publicly with Irwin Jacobs in the past, and I probably will in the future.

Aug. 18, 2013

Randy: Jacobs will be sorry to hear that. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

I thought his bridge detour idea was a monstrosity; it proved to be very insensitive and downright dumb. But I like Mr. Jacobs' charitable giving.

Aug. 20, 2013

David: I agree. It seemed as though he became so wedded to the design that he couldn't accept its flaws and then resisted taking No for an answer, not being used to it. Perhaps he had also been looking forward to the jobs his plan would provide, but he must know there will never be a shortage of chances to help the poor, working or otherwise. Putting pay parking in Balboa was not one of his better ideas. Hope he can move on.

Aug. 20, 2013

Randy: Sorry, I don't want to be quoted in your publication. Others are welcome to come forward, of course. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

You neither live here nor are registered to vote here, correct?

Aug. 18, 2013

randydotinga: You just asked for people with real names. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Don't expect an honest answer to that question.

Aug. 19, 2013

due process is for matters in the legal arena of the courts and police matters. politics is necessarily not in the same arena. what is happening here is a bunch of political drama. in this particular arena of politics, the people have the right to shout down a fool. and in politics, the fool has the right to hide and ignore all the shouting. the political "due process" is how the public gets rid of the fool whom they don't like. the political "due process" is complete when either (1) the shouting stops and becomes mere mumblings with not much being changed, or (2) the fool is defeated by the shouting and finally cries "uncle" by resigning.

Aug. 19, 2013

MeReader: Due process belongs in politics, too -- but it won't come to San Diego, probably. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

mr filner said he is innocent of the sexual haprrassment allegation and thus has the righto defend himself in a court of law

Aug. 18, 2013

stevengreenwald: I don't think even Randy can argue with that. Best,, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

That doesn't answer my question.

At what point is due process over and it's time for him to quit or be removed?

Aug. 18, 2013

Randy: You are asking the question as a reporter. Why don't you do some homework first? Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

As I recall, Inzunza and Zucchet were charged with bribery and corruption and they were allowed to serve right up until they were convicted. People are still innocent in this country until proven guilty. Just because people want to do an Oxbow here doesn't mean we should let them.

Aug. 18, 2013

KLoEditor: True: Innocent until proven guilty. But just try to tell that to dwbat and Randy. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

If Filner were a CEO and did all those things, he would have been fired, long before the civil lawsuit went to trial (if it did). Why should a mayor get a free ride simply because he was elected, and not "hired" for the job? He does still get due process, and that's why they have lawyers. Bob has them, so calm down.

Aug. 19, 2013

dwbat: Are you telling somebody else to calm down? Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Hi Randy:

I thought historymatters answered your question directly. But obviously not for publication, or history would have used his or her given name. However, for your curiosity to be satisfied, I thought it was a very clear answer.

Aug. 18, 2013

It was, and I missed it. My fault.

Aug. 18, 2013

Randy: A mea culpa from you? That's not like you, Randy!

Aug. 19, 2013

Don, don't look a gift Equus in either end.

Aug. 19, 2013

Twister: Unless you yourself are a....oh, never mind. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Yankeedoodle: Historymatters did give a clear response. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Randy: Surely you aren't implying that due process has already begun?

Aug. 19, 2013

Yankeedoodle: Dwbat insists that due process has begun. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

It was happening today. You should know as you broke the story. No "palace coup" but instead a mediation with a superb retired judge. What's not to like about that?

Aug. 19, 2013

Randy, I'm kind of blown away by this question. I hope as a journalist you are familiar with some of the basic principles of Due Process (the right to be made aware of the charges against you, the ability to review and refute the evidence against you, the right to choose representation and counsel in defense of your interests, and subject to a judgement passed by a non-involved party are just the basics in even the most informal of settings). The thing about Due Process is that it is based on the idea that these rights do not depend on individual or group feelings or opinions of them outside the legal setting. In fact, these rights are specifically afforded to even the most offensive of persons for the express purpose of protecting the rights of all. That is Due Process in our current framework. You are trying to conflate our opinions of a legal standard with the legal standard itself. They have nothing to do with each other. Whether he should quit is an opinion that anyone can have regardless of Due Process. Whether he should be removed is a political question, not a legal one. I find the current popular rush to judgement to be the opposite of Due Process. That is not necessarily bad because politics does not and should not stick as closely to the principles of Due Process. I hope responsible journalists would respect and educate the public as to the difference between public opinion and due process. They can be at odds. The current settlement talks are very much in keeping with Due Process as it gives a chance for those who actually know first-hand what did or didn't happen an opportunity to make decisions based on their "chances". Now chances may or may not be in either favor and those very same chances may or may not lead to justice. I hope you will at least understand that soliciting public opinion regarding a legal principle is pretty much the opposite of our legal system. Hopefully you never have to learn the hard way. Why not try a respected defense attorney or judge?

Aug. 19, 2013

You do not understand my question and it doesn't appear that you wish to.

Aug. 19, 2013

Very enigmatic. Perhaps you mean to ask, when is due process an untimely hinderance so we can get this recall over with? I don't know, I'm just guessing at your meaning. I don't mind if you think he should resign or be recalled but it seems perfectly obvious that there has not been due process and sometimes thems the breaks in politics. There's no need to conflate the two. It appears to me that you don't wish to be understood, only agreed with. But I could be wrong.

I see very good people on both sides, pro and anti Filner that lend their respective credibility to their positions, that is a very important bit of confusion. I am taken back by the rather nefarious elements sidling up to the recall which should give anyone pause about hopping onto a bandwagon. It's a tough read because corroborating witnesses have not been reported in any of the reporting I've read. I thought the second complaint would have produced something but I haven't seen anything and that seems odd.

I've handled many salacious cases involving allegations of sexal misconduct sometimes representing the accused and sometimes the accuser. A righteous case with corroborating evidence is always easier and satisfying. Defending someone with no evidence is frustrating and often heartbreaking. False accusations make one's blood boil. Defending some a&$hole makes for intense one-on-one conversations which hopefully lead to better behavior in order to redeem any kind of worth. More often than not, it's somewhere murky and grey, where at the end I walk away wondering WTF really happened. Even the murky grey one's generally go through due process so at the end you're dealing with a result for good or bad, as I said, not always justice.

I know none of this is as salacious as sex and public uproar and high stakes political maneuvering but I'm glad there is some part of our society that attempts to sheild us all from the (sometimes too often) chance that popular opinion is wrong.

So, what don't I understand?

Aug. 20, 2013

Is my real name. You and Goldsmith are really reaching. The recall effort is being led by The Republican City Attorney Jan Goldsmith because his beliefs clash with Filner's. Bob didn't want city money going for tourism advertising, he wanted that money to go for raises for hospitality workers instead. (Wikipedia) If people knew that Filner instructed police department to stop harassing and arresting those with pot dispensaries perhaps they would change their perspective. Goldsmith ignored the will of the people of California and continued having them closed down and the owners prosecuted. Goldsmith wants the mayors job for himself. That is why this sexual transgression story appeared. Filner went to therapy to understand if he had offended and to learn and change what he needed to. That should be the end of it. None of the women ever reported to their bosses anything about workplace indiscretion by Mr. Filner. Gloria Allred is working her best to get Jan Goldsmith his wish to be in the mayors seat and turn San Diego in a corporate mess people here don't want but they are swayed by the slanderous speak of Allred and Goldsmith. Read the last 2 articles by Don Bauder and blogs. 16 women have just realized they were badly emotionally damaged?! How convenient. They are likely not damaged, likely liars, by definition. Gloria and Goldsmith have been in the news non-stop to crucify an honest and good man who is good for San Diego. There is no crime, except by Goldsmith. He is dishonest and changes law to suit his needs. Gloria's a mouthpiece, but this is a long time plan to give Goldsmith control for the ultra-rich developers that Bob Filner didn't play ball with. Due process is decided in court, not the shakedown that's going on right now. I'm hoping legal team for Bob shoots back with slander, extortion, exposé Goldsmith as the unlawful aggressor that he is. There is plenty of evidence against Goldsmith on record right now. The GOP has been laying in wait to strike. The sex thing was too much for the public not to get upset about by both party's, reacting hysterically. They have been conned and the truth will set Filner free.

Aug. 18, 2013

You didn't answer any of Randy's questions. You just rambled and ranted.

Aug. 18, 2013

dwbat: Why don't you, David W. Batterson, answer self-professed reporter Randy's many questions? Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

I don't think he wants answers from other reporters. Duh!

Aug. 18, 2013

Added to all his other qualities, the Bat is rude.

Aug. 18, 2013

dwbat: I'm not so sure about that. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

My question again: Please define what due process means. At what point is due process over and it's time for him to quit or be removed?

It sounds like you accept NO end point of due process as appropriate to require his resignation or removal. Is that correct?

Aug. 18, 2013

Randy: You can go to Wikipedia for a quick definition of due process. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

We're just getting started to protect his due process. The recall is not gonna work and the allegations have no merit. He should realize he doesn't have to go anywhere. Goldsmith is about to be exposed. Maybe you should help report the truth instead of pre- judge. Read about them both and you figure out who's an honorable man and who has issues he's not willing to admit.

Aug. 18, 2013

shirleybean: The question that SHOULD be asked is who is financing the recall petitions? Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

On the recallbobfilner.com website it says: Major funding for this project was provided by Robert Wilson and John Cox.

Aug. 18, 2013

dwbat: Is that the John Cox who lives in Rancho Santa Fe? Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Yes, the U-T (that we both don't like) reported that today.

Aug. 19, 2013

dwbat: Cox is a conservative political gadfly. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Rancho Santa Fe is not San Diego.

Aug. 19, 2013

Twister: Don't tell Randy and dwbat that Rancho Santa Fe is not in San Diego. You will ruin their days. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Huh? I know it's in SD County, not the city. And why would I care? Never been to the place, and never will go there.

Aug. 19, 2013

In your two terms as a resident of San Diego, you really should go out to the Chino Farm in RSF. The Chino family grow and sell beautiful fruits and vegetables at their farm stand which is fronted by huge beautiful rocks salvaged from one of their fields after a rainy winter.

The farm's founders were sent away to "summer camp" during the internment of Japanese Californians during World War II. Their adult children and grandchildren who run the farm today are a credit to their late parents and grandparents in every way, but especially in their hard work and perseverance.

Aug. 19, 2013

Good posting, Frances.

Aug. 20, 2013

He should fight for his job, yes, till hell freezes over, for the sake of San Diego I hope he does!

Aug. 18, 2013

shirleyberan: We won't know if he will fight for his job until later. He is a victim of an intergovernmental extra-legal coup, in my opinion. Filner and his lawyers must decide if he has the funds to fight. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

The word is extralegal (not hyphenated). Calling it "extralegal" is indeed your opinion; it does not make it true. Please use your fine investigative skills and prove it, Don. That would be a great story and would make national headlines.

Aug. 18, 2013

The phrase is: the die is cast (not "dye is cast").

Aug. 18, 2013

dwbat: National headlines -- but it wouldn't be covered locally except by the Reader. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

The CBS national news coverage of this would leave those uninformed of the San Diego circus-style politics scratching their heads. The final lady who has claimed she went home and cried after Filner hugged and kissed her, shown on CBS national, could only cause the public to wonder why she cried at being shown affection. The national viewer does understand, however, that Allred - the low-rated reality-show host - is an act, but the rest of it must be puzzling to outsiders, because the national media can't possibly explain it in 3 minutes.

Seriously.

Meanwhile, the Neverland boy leader has been dissed by the national journalist Jay Rosen, related to Dillon's obsessive Filner stalking and Leader Lewis' claim that Filner can't be mayor if he doesn't talk to the press or speak on the internet.

And Filner hater-in-Chief Krvarik was off to take his Limbaugh-loving spouse to see Rush Limbaugh, America's #1 misogynist. Marco and Cory and Krvarik are slinging names (Pedophile! Anti-Union!) and mud at each other, and Rachel Laing seems to have been given the equivalent of a twitter shunning (no retweets!) by those who feel uncomfortable with the Teaparty nutcases that she is in bed with (her earlier meetings with Sanders and Kris Michell aside, $$$).

The sad-looking downtown rally was populated with Goldsmith's base, the old or aging north-of-I-8 Teaparty members.

If Filner wanted to flee this town to get as far away from the evil stupidity that the world is seeing, I couldn't blame him. This town has an overload of pitiful hacks posing as reporters ↑, lawyers, and pols.

Aug. 18, 2013

BlueSouthPark: The stalking of Filner has not received the attention from either local or national media that it deserves.

One day in the future, some objective writer will pen a PhD dissertation or book about this insanity. Trouble is, the manuscript might be rejected; editors will say it could not possibly have happened. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

You don't need a publisher anymore to get a book out there. You can self-publish e-books and sell them online. Lots of writers do it now. Check it out.

Aug. 18, 2013

dwbat: It used to be called the vanity press. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Yes, I know that.

Aug. 19, 2013

dwbat: You must be taking your smart pills. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

I have a high IQ; I don't need smart pills.

Aug. 19, 2013

OMG, the old I.Q is not so high that you know how to spell "die." To me, you sound peculiarly hurt and injured in these serial remarks. But you continue to engage with witty auslanders from fiery Colorado. Why do you subject yourself to this?

Aug. 19, 2013

And that's just the good news.

Aug. 18, 2013

Where did "Leader Lewis" say that? Please provide a link.

Aug. 18, 2013

@Randy think about the precendent you are setting in saying thay "due process" is negated by the sheer volume of accusers....Now how could that be abused to oust good leaders in the future? That is an ABSURD notion and the fact that you are a jornalist" is even more absurd. You and VOSD are contemptible and should be held accountable for this public lynching. We are not going ANYWHERE.

Aug. 18, 2013

historymatters: Yours is one quote that probably will not be carried in the Voice. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

You're correct. It does not come with a name. I only use anonymous sources if there's a good reason, and I explain why they wish to be anonymous.

Aug. 18, 2013

Randy: I used anonymous sources in my last several posts on this matter. There was a good reason: the sources are proving to have been accurate. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

"think about the precendent you are setting in saying thay "due process" is negated by the sheer volume of accusers"

I do not recall saying this. It does not reflect my views. Please cite where I said this or correct the record.

Aug. 18, 2013

I like the sound of this post. VoiceofSanDiego IS contemptible. VOSD initiated a vendetta against Filner long before he was elected with 55% of the vote. VOSD smear artist Liam Dillon was relegated to covering sidewalk repair after Filner won the election, but it seems he's back from exile, once again writing about the Mayor. VOSD CEO Scott Lewis recently had to retract a contemptible misstatement/slur against Filner concerning female reporters from KPBS. Randy Dotinga has morphed into a full-fledged Filner basher from having been a witty and amusing aggregator in the VOSD Morning Report. But then, in case anyone doesn't know who's paying the bills over at VOSD, Irwin Jacobs and other very rich men are the shot-callers and the string-pullers. Lewis, Dillon and Dotinga are just puppets.

Aug. 19, 2013
  1. You keep suggesting Dillon was demoted. That is not the case, which you would discover if you did a lick of research.

  2. I know a woman who was sexually harassed by Filner. I know the father of a woman who was sexually harassed by Filner. I know an employee who was bullied and verbally abused by Filner. I know a man who was slapped in the face, twice, by Filner.

I've known three of these people for decades. They are credible and they color my opinions. How could they not?

  1. I have disagreed with Irwin Jacobs publicly in the past and I'm sure I will again. I must be a terrible puppet.

  2. It's rich that you would lecture me about integrity.

Aug. 19, 2013

Don, Thank you!!! You deserve a Pulitzer for your coverage of this! you are one of the last honest reporters in this city!

Aug. 18, 2013

historymatters: It's my understanding KPBS thinks it can win a Pulitzer for its purported reporting. KPBS! Maybe the Voice and U-T think so, too. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

As has been mentioned earlier, KPBS cannot win a Pulitzer. It is not eligible.

Aug. 18, 2013

Randy: Good point.

Aug. 19, 2013

Randy: It is certainly not eligible for its Filner reporting. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Belligerent blogger comments are not eligible either.

Aug. 19, 2013

dwbat: Are you taking yourself out of the running? Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Don, please stop saying this. It is a relief to know it is not possible for any radio station to get a Pulitzer -- especially an outfit as compromised and unprofessional as KPBS. The late Joan Kroc, a major contributor, must be turning over in her grave. I heard today that NPR, the parent organization, has just lost its seventh honcho in seven years to a better job at National Geographic. There must be trouble out there as well as at here at home.

Aug. 19, 2013

Filner dont quit! You are not in this alone...we the people will find a way to help w/ the legal fees if necessary. Do NOT quit! we need you! you are a hero.

Aug. 18, 2013

historymatters: As I have said earlier, people will be afraid of giving money to Filner in this environment.

i went through this in the 60,000 seat guarantee and Petco Park scams. Some prominent people would come up to me and tell me to keep fighting these scams. I asked if they could be quoted. Answer: goodness no! Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

There has been tremendous intimidation of people over this matter. At the outset, intimidation of women who refused to join the accusing chorus of damsels to demand that the Mayor should resign his office. Intimidation of men AND women who stood up for due process preceding judgment and vigilante recall. Intimidation of former Filner employees who want to stand up for him but are afraid for their present jobs and position among their peers. Today was the first time we saw a cadre of women as well as men publicly reaffirming their confidence in the Mayor. Good for them. Only one's soul is lost by keeping silent.

Aug. 19, 2013

History: Although I clicked a thumbs up, I don't have any extra money and don't know any supporters who do. I could give twenty bucks:)

Aug. 19, 2013

Yankeedoodle: Twenty dollars should cover a minute of legal fees. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

and dont meet w/ these people alone EVER Bob! they are criminals. they are mafia and they will act like criminals w/ their threats.

Aug. 18, 2013

historymatters: Goldsmith has suggested on TV that a policeman should accompany Filner everywhere he goes.

You seem to believe it's the other way around: Filner shouldn't meet with Goldsmith without police protection. Filner also should ask Goldsmith to take a lie detector test periodically during negotiations. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

RE: "take a lie detector test..." What a ridiculous statement. Are you just trying to be provocative, Don? Filnergate is NOT about you and Bob against the mean old world, making your last stand.

Aug. 18, 2013

Dwbat: You mean Goldsmithgate, don't you? Has more resonance, like the Golden Gate...

Aug. 19, 2013

Yankeedoodle: Kind of like onomatopoeia. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

dwbat: I believe I have told you before that you should stop taking every statement seriously. Things are written sarcastically and satirically. Learn, please. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Your satire is lame. You are not Mark Twain or Will Rogers.

Aug. 19, 2013

dwbat: Never claimed to be. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

You do best when you stick to investigative journalism. You often make a fool of yourself when you attempt to be a sitdown satirist. You need to decide which one you want to be in your golden years: a reporter or a clown. You really can't be both.

Aug. 19, 2013

Actually, I wish we had MORE reporter/clowns in our journals. It sure beats reporter/hacks, of which we have a plethora and a surfeit.

Aug. 19, 2013

David Batterson: You have to understand that no matter how passionately you hold your position, it is not dignified to aim your invective gun at anybody who disagrees with you. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

Thank you, Judge Judy!

Aug. 22, 2013

"Think about the precendent you are setting in saying thay 'due process' is negated by the sheer volume of accusers."

When did I say this? Please provide a citation.

This is not actually what I believe, so I'm curious about where I said it.

Are you mixing me up with VOSD's Scott Lewis, perhaps? I'm an independent writer. I don't speak for him and he doesn't speak for me. But I don't think that's exactly what he believes either.

Aug. 18, 2013

Randy: Why don't you ask him? Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

I'm familiar enough with his views.

Aug. 18, 2013

Don: A whole minute? How gratifying. Maybe I will give after all.

Aug. 19, 2013

Don, do you know if he will be flanked by his attorneys? Please tell me he will not ever meet w/ these people alone ever ever. He should take them to the rally and have the meeting there. they can make their offers there. But I say bob ditches these scumbags.

Aug. 18, 2013

historymatters: All I been told by extremely reliable sources is that Filner and Goldsmith will meet. Tomorrow is the scheduled date, but that could change.

I would hope Filner's lawyers will be there so they can study whatever Goldsmith presents, with the mayor's financial health in mind. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

dwbat. when Randy asks real questions and stops presenting assumptions as a question you both can figure out and understand my answer

Aug. 18, 2013

Those sounded like real questions to me. You were just unwilling or unable to answer them cogently.

Aug. 18, 2013

Dwbat: Shirley was correct, in my opinion, when she described Randy's recent question. The due process question as presented is a logical fallacy known as the loaded question. The famous example is "When did you stop beating your wife?" He is assuming that due process has already begun and perhaps been happening for so long that we weary of it. If you answer it as asked, then you are tricked into accepting his assumption that has been loaded into the question.

Aug. 19, 2013

shirleyberan: Don't count on that. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

Just trying to give a reporter something he could use in his article dwbat. Seems to be having a little trouble journalistically.

Aug. 18, 2013

shirleyberan: He's not the only reporter in town having trouble journalistically. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

I'll reword.

At what point, in your opinion, would you say it is time for him to go? What would bring you to that point?

Criminal conviction? Prison term? Civil verdict against him? Something else? None of these?

I know what due process means. What I don't know is the point when due process would convince you that he needs to no longer hold office.

Aug. 18, 2013

Randy: You keep saying no one has answered your question -- singular, question. But you have asked a bunch of questions. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

History answered them immediately and concisely, in the first reply to his question when first posed.

Aug. 18, 2013

You're right, Yankeedoodle. I missed the answer, but now I see it.

Aug. 18, 2013

Never - goldsmith set him up.

Aug. 18, 2013

shirleyberan: If he is recalled, he should go, unless, possibly, he or somebody else challenges several aspects of the recall petition. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 18, 2013

that answers my question. thank you.

Aug. 18, 2013

PRESS CONFERENCE “STANDING WTH MAYOR FILNER AND DUE PROCESS”

MONDAY ~ AUGUST 19 @ 1200 NOON

CIVIC CENTER PLAZA

Info: Enrique Morones @ 619 977-9467

https://www.facebook.com/SanDiegansForMayorBobFilner

Aug. 18, 2013

vitalinfo: Randy and dwbat will be there with water pistols. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

If you assure me that this is a confirmed story, and can assure me that Randy will come to the plaza thus armed, I too shall attend and bring my water pistol. He will be able to recognize me because my revolver is green. Or is it blue?

Aug. 19, 2013

Yankeedoodle: Goldsmith will have you arrested. But not Randy. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

I'll pass. I have better things to do with my time, like rearranging my sock drawer or alphabetizing my spice rack.

Aug. 19, 2013

Dwbat: You mean it's not already in alpha order?

Aug. 19, 2013

Nope, I'm getting sloppy in the kitchen. My silverware drawer has reached disaster status, and I'm applying to FEMA for a loan. And don't ask about inside my microwave. It's like The Twilight Zone in there.

Aug. 19, 2013

dwbat: Or blogging. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

As I stated before, I don't do blogging. My news stories don't appear in the BLOGS section of the Reader. I comment on stories, but I don't have my own blog like you do. Never have. I'm just an old-fashioned, 5-Ws journalist, as well as a longtime photographer and videographer.

Aug. 19, 2013

David Batterson: Hooray for you. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

We can throw fundraisers for Filner's legal fees. He has helped a ton of small businesses in this town that I am sure would be willing to help throw fundraisers. money should not be at issue here. he must fight. NTM I bet there are good attorneys out there who will help pro bono. I think you are underestimating San Diegans Don.

Filner is the 1st non-corrupt mayor we have ever had. More and more people will support him as this crumbles.

Aug. 18, 2013

History, I love your positive energy.

Aug. 18, 2013

Crumble? That's a laugh. Bob's show is over because it's a stinker, but he won't get off the stage yet. Politicians and bad actors: hams who love attention and don't know when to make an exit.

Aug. 18, 2013

historymatters: A non-corrupt mayor can't be bribed. That's why the corporate welfare folks want him out of office. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Don: They have a point there. You need somebody who wants those bags of gold, like Spiro. Otherwise, how are you supposed to get things done?

Aug. 19, 2013

Yankeedoodle: I have been kidding on a lot of posts, but not that one. A whole lot of decisions made by a city council are land use decisions.

Look at Liberty Station, as just one example. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Historymatters -- Filner has a lot of good lawyers. Forget about pro bono. There should be a Filner Legal Defense Fund established to help pay for them. I think it's a great idea. Even Ralph Inzunza, a convicted and imprisoned City Councilman, had a legal defense fund. It would make people feel good to be able to do something, to act in solidarity with "the first non-corrupt mayor we have ever had." Who knows, it might encourage someone with deep pockets to help.

Aug. 19, 2013

Don - hopefully they won't collect enough signatures after they figure this out to be bad politicking. But saw somewhere that the signatures can't be counted/ used till they're collected after the 22nd? KPBS?

Aug. 18, 2013

Petitions can be mailed in immediately by the circulator. WHO says there's a delay? State your source, please.

Aug. 18, 2013

shirleyberan: Don't know about that. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

shirleyberan: Don't know the answer to that. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

The witnesses are very thin. Where are the women who slept with Filner?

This is typically San Diego gossip.

Mayors Hedgecock and Dick Murphy were run out of office.

Murphy wrote a book about the fact that he did not cause the pension debacle in one and one-half years. Democrats, including Donna Frye voted for pension increases herself.

Hedgecock did not take developer money because he was backed by J. David Dominelli, another ponzi scheme who went to prison.

Goldsmith is representing developers.

Aug. 18, 2013

Diogenes: Yes, Goldsmith is representing developers. But he doesn't stop there. He represents the entire corporate welfare crowd. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Diogenes:

San Diegans are just so patriotic and democratic that they cannot wait for the next election to roll around to choose another office-holder. Instead, they prefer to pay for an endless election cycle via recalls and resignations. It's cheaper entertainment than Charger tickets!

Aug. 19, 2013

Yankeedoodle: And a lot more entertaining. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

historymatters - somebody can set up website for save the Mayor - send 5 - 10 bucks

Aug. 18, 2013

Why not just drop the 5-10 bucks down a manhole? Equal waste of money.

Aug. 18, 2013

dwbat: The bucks might hit you on the head down there. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

You really are unrelenting Dweebat. You wouldn't be contributing, so why not back off and write one of your neighborhood reports covering the five W's. And don't forget, when the dye is cast, it's spelled "die."

Aug. 19, 2013

So WHO are you again? You keep neglecting to reveal yourself. You know my identity, so why are YOU hiding behind a pseudonym? Here is my latest neighborhood report in case you missed it: www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2013/aug/17/stringers-goodwill-hunting-donations-new-/

Aug. 20, 2013

You didn't answer so I had to do some sleuthing. Your name is Frances Zimmerman. Should we call you Frances from now on? Why the "monaghan" pseudonym? Aren't you proud of who you are, and what you stand for?

Aug. 20, 2013

David Batterson: I have no idea whether Fran Zimmerman -- a very intelligent San Diegan -- is contributing to this blog. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

shirleyberan: See if it flies. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Goldsmith was seen at the Freedom from Filner event today. Goldsmith was wearing a baseball type cap. Any chance we could charge him with animal cruelty? I know that critter must have been suffering from heat exhaustion underneath that cap.

Aug. 19, 2013

Ponzi: Goldsmith desperately wants all the exposure he can get. Since he gets so much jocular comment about his hairpiece, he prefers being outside so he can wear a hat. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

He probably left his pet at home yesterday. If Goldsmith would just admit he is follically challenged and drop the critter on his head, people might take him more seriously. That, and maybe not prosecuting people for writing on sidewalks with chalk...

Aug. 19, 2013

aardvark: Who is going to protect poor Bank of America from evil people if it is not Goldsmith? Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

I've been following along with all the posts and comments and as every accusation has come about in the media, and there is not one single thing, or even all of the allegations combined, in my opinion, that warrant the Mayor's resignation. Besides Irene, all of the alleged misconduct was before he was mayor and if it was an issue, should've been brought forward before the election. As for Irene, just seeing her and my gut tells me she was okay with him until she wasn't...I worked with a woman like that who sued for sexual harassment and got a settlement that barely covered her legal expenses. Everyone knew it was total BS. I hope the recall fails, I hope the Mayor continues to fight this, and then I hope he countersues...for the private invesitgators tailing him, for the seemingly illegal hotline/witchunt, for slander/libel by Allred, for harassment from Jan (talk about HOSTILE work environment. F that guy!)

If you follow the money, follow the interests, follow all of the people who benefit if Filner goes away, follow who all of these ladies worked/work for and with whom they are aligned...not to mention the uphill battle of any democrat being elected in the vacancy after this "scandal", there are plenty of people who stand to gain if Filner resigns or is recalled.

All of this seems perfectly timed...get him out just in time for Cabrillo bridge renovations, slip in the Jacobs bypass bridge, and millions of dollars up for grabs for the Centennial celebration in 2015, and you understand the urgency to rush him out.

To answer your question, Randy, a criminal conviction of a criminal offense that occurred while he's been mayor would satisfy my desire for due process. Even then, the level of corruption on all sides...the district attorney, the sheriffs, the police, the uber complacent and even corroborating media, the council, and yes, even on the mayor's side, makes a real, fair, truthful court case and impartial jury seem impossible. So maybe the reality is that no matter how this turns out, we're pretty much screwed all around. The likelihood of a truly progressive mayor in San Diego basically lived and died with Filner.

-Rosemary Bystrak

Aug. 19, 2013

This battle has nothing to do with the Cabrillo Bridge renovations. That was scheduled many months ago. I wrote about it in January of this year: http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/20...

Aug. 19, 2013

dwbat: At last. We find out what you have been writing for the Reader. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

It's easy to do a search. I've been writing these short Reader articles for 3 years now. No big secret if you were paying attention.

Aug. 19, 2013

dwbat: I confess I had never heard of David W. Batterson until this started. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Do you not read the other articles in the Reader?

Aug. 19, 2013

David Batterson: Yes, but unless something outstanding is written, i am not likely to remember the name of the author. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

I know the names of many Reader contributors. I always look to see who is writing the piece.

Aug. 22, 2013

You really are a genius, aren't you? Did you miss Don's line "unless something outstanding is written...."? Hint: this precludes you from consideration, hence he had no clue as to your identity. But then, neither do you.

Aug. 22, 2013

Actually you have, as we have exchanged emails in the past. My real name was in those emails. Your memory is fading, apparently.

Aug. 19, 2013

David Batterson: Do you have any idea how many emails I receive? And answer? Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

I don't know, and really don't care.

Aug. 22, 2013

The lady was describing the proposed Jacobs Centennial Bridge, Grade Separation, and Paid Parking Structure. This costly and destructive plan is still being pushed by Council President Gloria and the 4 Republican Council Members.

Nothing to do with the planned 2014 Caltrans Seismic Upgrade renovations to our Cabrillo Bridge.

Aug. 19, 2013

Thank you, la playa, for the facts. Always a welcome sight.

Aug. 19, 2013

Yankeedoodle: Katheryn (laplayaheritage) deals in facts -- and very well. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

Actually she mentioned both bridges: "...Cabrillo bridge renovations, slip in the Jacobs bypass bridge..."

Aug. 20, 2013

sddialedin (Rosemary Bystrak): Eloquently and accurately stated. Your second paragraph sums it up well: Follow the money, follow the interests, follow all of the people who benefit if Filner goes away.

And I fear you are right: the likelihood of a truly progressive mayor -- one who will rein in downtown corporate welfare and spread the money to the infrastructure and neighborhoods -- may have lived and died with Filner. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

It IS sad we lose a progressive mayor. But the blame goes to Filner himself.

Aug. 19, 2013

dwbat: Some of the blame does go to Filner. But much if not most goes to the conspirators and their financial backers. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Not really.

Aug. 19, 2013

Against the odds: citizens must do all possible to get the unreported truths spreading like wildfire to combat the powers whose deeds are most scandalous and corrupt.

You left out the Planning and Development Offices of San Diego---the womb for special interests'. The new Director, Mr. Fulton(?), will be next on the hit list if we don't turn ALL the spotlights on this corruption now!

Aug. 19, 2013

vitalinfo: Remember, those spreading the untruths are the ones with the money. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Very well said.

Aug. 19, 2013

SAVEBP: vitalinfo did express his thoughts very well. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Seems like the first weekend of the recall campaign was completely botched. The organizing and rallies should have been on Saturday, for a Sunday start. Instead they had two competing events at the very time they should have been collecting signatures, The crowd in the Downtown event was small, the excuse that others were in Mission Valley, incredibly stupid. The kids in the Occupy movement were much better organised, and they had no money, no media, and were learning. I suppose there really are millionaires ready to let these "organizers" play with seven figures of their daddy's money, but they might get better results hiring some kids on a college campus, with pep rally experience.

Aug. 19, 2013

Weren't the crowds "small" when Barack Obama first started his campaign for President? I wonder how that turned out......

Aug. 19, 2013

dwbat: Do some reading. You may find out who won the last two presidential elections. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

That was my point. Campaigns start out small, but can turn into large movements. Just like the recall campaign can do.

Aug. 19, 2013

dwbat: Oh, I thought you didn't know who won the last two presidential elections. Why did I think that? Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Don: I thought he was comparing Goldsmith to Obama, or is it Gloria, or ...

Aug. 19, 2013

Yankeedoodle: What a contrast: comparing Goldsmith to Obama. Gawd! Incidentally, some on the Democratic National Committee want that body to urge Goldsmith to resign, but President Obama hasn't weight in on the topic.

There must be something else here. There may be another reason for this piling-on. Was Filner thinking of coming out for Snowden, say? This is murder in the cathedral. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

Senior moment?

Aug. 22, 2013

Psycholizard: You mean the corporate welfare boosters aren't organized? Heavens! Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Faulkner was going crazy on network television about the credit card. He claims that the city's credit would be ruined, etc., etc.

Huffington Post has bloggers from outside of San Diego who do not understand the motivations of those wishing to rid us of Filner. Some believe that Filner would appoint a Democratic successor or that the recall election would necessarily result in another Democrat being elected. If that were so, the developer forces would not even bother going after Filner in the first place.

If the Filner affair is any indication of the comprehension of voters of the issues, God help us all. The "anti-liberal" media pulls the strings and the voters are mere puppets. They see a little morality play and want to be goodie two-shoes. They dig their own graves...

Aug. 19, 2013

Diogenes: The media's strings are being manipulated as well. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Same old song, 45th verse........

Aug. 19, 2013

"Huffington Post has bloggers from outside of San Diego..." The Reader has one, too! He always signs his comments: "Best" (hint hint).

Aug. 22, 2013

No matter the final outcome of the filner circus, he will be seeking revenge for a long time.

Aug. 19, 2013

Murphyjunk: I am not so sure he is as motivated by revenge as his opponents are: they are avenging his victory at the polls. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Very true Don, just like the GOP has been holding America hostage for Obama's victories ever since 2008.

That's the state of American, and international, politics today where hate, money and power triumphs over cooperation and morality regardless of how unacceptable the long term consequences will be for American Democracy and humanity.

Aug. 19, 2013

Anon92107: You are right. The Republicans are holding the country hostage because they resent the outcome of the last two presidential elections. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

It's interesting to compare the comments in this article with what is happening in the South Bay. Four of the five Sweetwater trustees have been indicted and there is voluminous documentation regarding these indictments available to the public.

The district is the second largest in the state, has a huge budget and is administering a $644 million bond. Yet, a sentiment often expressed is , "You're innocent until proven guilty." People are, however, frustrated with how long it has taken for this question to be settled.

Aug. 19, 2013

they sure got a lot of time to destroy or fabricate evidence, didn't they?

Aug. 19, 2013

Susan Luzzaro: You have done a terrific job on this story. But people are innocent until proven guilty. And the Filner tumult really has just begun. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

San Diego Unified is the second largest school district in the state of California, after LA which is number one.

Aug. 19, 2013

"Due process" is something you get in a court of law--not politics.

The bottom line is that Filner can no longer, and will never be able to govern this city effectively. The people of SD deserve better than to have this selfish philanderer running the city into the ground.

Aug. 19, 2013

Well said. But Don will be attacking your comment in a matter of minutes, from his home in Colorado. ["I can see San Diego from my house."]

Aug. 19, 2013

Here, have a generous helping of this, bats**t:

None

Aug. 19, 2013

You missed. Bad aim.

Aug. 19, 2013

Except you're the one with the itchy trigger finger, on display every time you shoot yourself in the foot.

Aug. 19, 2013

I just checked. No gunshots in my foot. You must be confused. Thanks for your concern, though.

Aug. 19, 2013

It's a spray, genius. You must be diffused.

Aug. 20, 2013

Duhbya: He is a genius? Yes, in his own mind. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

Nope, far from being a genius. Never claimed to be; never will. Once again, you are wrong with a blog statement. It happens daily, except when you stick to writing news articles (and leave out your opinions).

Aug. 22, 2013

Wow, borderline civil for less than a day, and then Sybil kicks back in.

Aug. 22, 2013

David Batterson: Duck. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

Sjtorres: It seems you believe that politicians are immune from our legal standards. Hmmm. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Sjt:

We deserved better than Golding, but got lots of her. Then we deserved better than Sanders, but we got lots of him. So, whom do we deserve, who is so wonderful that can earn pride of place in San Diego? Choose. Not fair to choose anyone smarmy, though.

Aug. 19, 2013

Yankeedoodle: Almost all crooks are smarmy. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

sjtorres - sorry honey , your'e opinion doesn't mean do-do!

Aug. 19, 2013

Will Mr. Batterson please state for the record that he is a reporter?

Aug. 19, 2013

I already did so; scroll back up through the comments and you'll see. I'm a longtime freelance reporter; I'm not an employee of any news outlet. I've been doing this for MANY years.

Aug. 19, 2013

David Batterson: And no doubt getting filthy rich being a freelancer. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

Twister: He has stated that: he writes neighborhood items for the Reader. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Dweebat claims he has permission to be a troll here. This may be true, since the boss is probably a little bit libertarian and believes in free speech. I can tell you, if I were the boss, this guy would be restricted to his neighborhood reporting or out the door. Count your blessings, Dweeb.

Aug. 19, 2013

Who are you? Identify yourself please and your connection to the Reader, if any. I've now changed my profile because so many have been bitching, and couldn't figure out what "dwbat" means (even though it was obvious).

Aug. 20, 2013

Thanks for your input, Frances. I respect your 1st Amendment rights.

Aug. 20, 2013

monaghan: When I found out that Batterson writes for the Reader, I wrote and told him that we really appreciate his posts on this blog, but I didn't know whether the Reader approves of its staffers contributing to blogs under a pseudonym.

Maybe that's why he is now using his name. But I don't know; I haven't asked Reader brass and don't intend to do so. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

Don, you didn't "find out" I write for the Reader. I told you who I was, at least 2 years ago in an email (about a medical matter). I also sent you a couple of news tips (before Filnergate). Your memory is failing you. And I've never asked "Reader brass" about you refusing to reveal that you live outside of California (while blasting San Diego media and its reporters), and I don't intend to do so.

Aug. 22, 2013

Can you say "obsession"? Sure you can.

Aug. 22, 2013

Will Mister Twister state who HE is?

Aug. 20, 2013

Indict Filner for his acts. Whenever critics wander onto topics like amateur diagnoses, characterization, the geographics of his supporters, etc. They distract from what he is accused. Which is kidding and kissing a 400 hundred pound woman, discussing underwear, touching women while being photographed, asking single women for dates.

I suggest critics pound the table because the facts are idiotic, and the law very difficult.

Aug. 19, 2013

Psycholizard: Asking a woman for a date is a venal sin. Anyone doing that should roast in hell for eternity. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Don: You are not Catholic, then? Roasting's for mortal sin. The other type is venial. I agree that there is much venality afoot, however. And that is like greed, a deadly sin. So confusing.

Aug. 19, 2013

And limbo is for unbaptized babies. Nice job, Yankeedoodle.

Aug. 19, 2013

Monaghan: I think that Dante had a special suite reserved for Jan Goldsmith, but for the life of me, just can't remember what it was...

Aug. 19, 2013

Definition of Venial: 1. Easily excused or forgiven; pardonable: a venial offense. 2. Roman Catholic Church Minor, therefore warranting only temporal punishment.

Aug. 20, 2013

Yankeedoodle: The word "venal" suggests that a person is open to being bribed; "venial" relates to an excusable sin. Personally, I am much harsher on the former. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

monaghan: Venal sins were those committed by many of Filner's predecessors, as well as much of the downtown establishment. Venial sins, in my judgment, are most of those of which Filner is accused. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

Don: Yes, you are. However, what you wrote was 'venal', followed by the facetious roasting comment. I assume you meant the whole entry to be facetious, which is why I suggested 'mortal.' Doesn't matter anymore, except that the case is still alive. So maybe it does. Should be interesting, academically, to see whether the plaintiff ever does present compelling evidence, or any evidence of sexual harassment by Filner.

Aug. 24, 2013

It's interesting that so called progressives are defending mysoginy and sexual assault so vigorously. I guess we now know where they stand on women's rights.

Aug. 19, 2013

Specifics? You're pounding the table, his supporters aren't the issue.

Aug. 19, 2013

SJT - Hypocrisy update: You need to check with the loudest and smarmiest Filner recall advocate and Republican Party volunteer chairman (because who would pay him?), Tony Krvarik, on how to spell, because he went to see the inventor of misogyny, per his announcement: Tony Krvaric ‏@TonyKrvaric 17 Aug

About to hear from the great @rushlimbaugh in person for the first time. The things I do for Mrs. Krvaric on #datenight. #elrushbo #excited

Aug. 19, 2013

BlueSouthPark: Even Rush Limbaugh didn't invent misogyny. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

Sjtorres: Yours is an egregious logical fallacy. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Don: Yes, at the least, it is begging the question. The conclusion is indeed masquerading as a premiss.

Aug. 19, 2013

Yankeedoodle: True. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

News sources are reporting that Filner and his lawyers were seen entering the building at 101 West Broadway late this morning. Sources claim it's a mediation before a retired federal judge.

They said it is being held on the 15th floor in the U.S. Attorney's office. I thought the U.S. Attorney's office was on the 6th floor of 880 Front Street. But maybe they are renting space in the 101 address.

Aug. 19, 2013

Let's hope a resignation is forthcoming. Enough is enough.

Aug. 19, 2013

We know you're exhausted, but we're just starting the fight. Get your pal Goldsmith to quit and the fight's over.

Aug. 19, 2013

Psycholizard: Goldsmith is a bigwig. He believes he has a bigwig's privileges. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Goldsmith is NOT my pal. You couldn't be more wrong. I don't like the guy. You are confusing me with someone else I guess. I want to see BOTH of those guys out of city hall. Funny how people make assumptions about others....

Aug. 19, 2013

Ponzi: A mediation might be a good solution; however, the U.S. Attorney's office has already entered into the investigation, according to press reports. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

UT reported about an hour ago that US Attys aren't involved, per their spokesman. But the report gave Reader credit for reporting that the meeting w/Filner/Goldsmith would occur. Inouï!

Aug. 19, 2013

BlueSouthPark: Yes, I was amazed to hear that. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

Don: Lord knows I hate to be lachrymose, but sometimes it can't be helped. To me, any solution that includes Filner resigning is a bad solution for me. Maybe not for him. He has done a lot for other people all his life, I guess he is allowed in this heinous situation to think about himself.

Aug. 19, 2013

Yankeedoodle: Anybody who could be financially wiped out by specious charges cooked up by several branches of government cannot be blamed for capitulating, even to falsehoods. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

I see the Filner supporters got a bit of good news today--Carl DeMaio is getting heavily involved in the recall drive. Carl, a word of advice--shut the hell up.

Aug. 19, 2013

aardvark: Constitutionally, DeMaio can't close his mouth. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

Don - just wanted you to know I went to my first ever rally. Of course pro Filner. Went well, plenty of people and speakers. Lots of cameras, I was told from everyfreakinwhere. Only one nut job to the side on stairs talking to himself like a true schizophrenic (OK - sometimes loudly name calling Filner perve, blah blah) took a note pad and didn't write a single thing- just being in the moment was a good thing. Will write about it tomorrow after digested, dwbat - you really are a dope! Write whatever you want,, you only make it worse for yourself, freelancer.

Aug. 19, 2013

That was so much fun!! What a nice bunch of people, from all over town. I met Yankeedoodle there. Be sure to introduce yourself next time, you can't miss me, only giant reptile there,

Aug. 19, 2013

Biggest reptile ever! Would give Komodo dragons a run for their money.

Aug. 19, 2013

Psycholizard: Does Yankeedoodle wear a feather in his cap? Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

Shirley: I went too. Saw that fellow you mention...his sign had lots of buzz words on it. My faves were next to each other: Marxist Molester!

Aug. 19, 2013

Nice meeting you.

Aug. 19, 2013

Yankeedoodle: "Marxist Molester!" Sounds like a Tea Partier. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

shirleyberan: About how many people were there? Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

I was there too. Next time we should have a meet up.

Linked below is the UStream of the Pro-Filner Rally.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/37538347

Turn on the audio on the UStream.

Aug. 19, 2013

Wow, laplaya, that's really nice. I could hear her very clearly and her message of course...passionately real, the antithesis of the slick scoundrels who have run our mayor out of office.

Aug. 19, 2013

Don , I know name-calling is wrong but if it is deserved I'd it ok?

Aug. 19, 2013

Republicans on this blog are protected by the endangered species act.

Aug. 19, 2013

Psycholizard: Don't you wish. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

shirleyberan: Name-calling is not wrong on this blog, unless the names used are out of line. Invective permitted here, particularly that aimed at me. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

shirleyberan: It depends what names are used. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

dwbat - if it's misspelled does it change the meaning? Is it ok - Don?

Aug. 19, 2013

shirleyberan: Typos and misspellings creep into this blog. I am one of the offenders; just look at how many posts I make. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 19, 2013

You make more comments than Donald Trump, and you are just as ornery, Don. But you don't have a stupid haircut like the Donald. That thing is more hideous than Goldsmith's ferret wig.

Aug. 19, 2013

David Batterson: I am completely bald on top but would never dream of wearing a hairpiece. That takes insufferable vanity -- and insecurity. Best, Don Bauder

Aug. 21, 2013

I've seen your Reader photo, so I already knew that.

Aug. 22, 2013

It's what's in Goldsmith's head that's ugly, what's on his head is just silly.

Aug. 19, 2013

Yankeedoodle and Psycolizard - I clapped the loudest behind the cameras.

Aug. 19, 2013

historymatters - I will open a PO Box and everything should go to the young lawyer, Choice, didn't write down his name , the young guy who spoke, and I can help for free, did my own appearances and legal responses by myself against my (so-called brother Ed, not indicted as of yet) Brand/ my maiden name, follow Luzzaro in Reader! You guys are cutting into my drinking time. Figure this sh.t out, and show the dummies. Told brother Ed I would expose him last time we spoke on the phone and I will keep trying. New Mayoral cause is very important to me now too. I have never seen a lynching until this. Not a southern tree but very much like McCarthy as one woman speaker said. Just point a finger.

Aug. 19, 2013

I sang the loudest.

I thought to share this Gloria Allred interview; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnQx21bjzQI I like her in this version, but still don't think she has the right to tell San Diego what to do.

Aug. 19, 2013

So you don't think Allred has 1st Amendment rights because she lives up in LA? What a provincial attitude.

Aug. 19, 2013

What are your thoughts on "San Diego" journalists who live out of state? Or those who have rumored (and undisclosed) relationships with local political figures?

Aug. 19, 2013

I think they all should be called up on charges, tried in the court of public opinion and sentenced to work at VoiceofSanDiego.

Aug. 19, 2013

Monaghan: Would dearly love to see Don sentenced to work at Voice of San Diego. O Henry fans will recall the Ransom of Red Chief. That's how I picture it going.

Aug. 19, 2013

I'm not sure Don could work at VOSD; they might require their people to live in San Diego County.

Aug. 20, 2013

We all know by now what Allred's reputation is - she represents whores, anybody she can tell and when did decide money was the help ?and then charges a lot of money for giving them hope and expectancy. Expecting a big check. Gloria - you were raped as a young woman in Tijuana, so was I. Drinking over the boarder at 18. Nobody cares. Make,only , no need for public evolution. Right? Boarder predators . Why can't you talk now? Important that you speak!

Aug. 19, 2013

Honestly Gloria - she can't be real because she's paid not to be.

Aug. 19, 2013

There's nothing wrong with lawyers being paid. It's called being a professional. Journalists get paid too, except for amateurs.

Aug. 22, 2013

Her client should make her case with her aid, she can recommend, she can demand, but she can't order the City or Filner to do anything, How did you like the video? Perhaps Sassy can give orders to the City also.

Aug. 19, 2013

She didn't issue any "order" that I've heard, seen or read. She has strongly urged Filner to resign. So that's an "order" in your view of things? If Don wrote that Goldsmith should immediately resign, would that be an "order" that he's issued? Of course not. Judges issue orders, not attorneys and bloggers.

Aug. 19, 2013

Well she did say that her clients will accept no settlement that doesn't include Filner's resignation. You obviously haven't seen the linked video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnQx21bjzQI

Aug. 19, 2013

I have no need to see the video. It is irrelevant to Filnergate. And watch for Bob's resignation coming soon. I'll be celebrating, and Don will probably blow a gasket. That would be worth watching in person.

Aug. 19, 2013

Bauder's views are so old-fashioned that he'd be more likely to blow a cave drawing.

Aug. 19, 2013

hahahaha; that was a good morning laugh.

Aug. 20, 2013

Ignorance is bliss.

Aug. 19, 2013

Psycholizard: quite ignorant, for it is really Goldsmithgate.

Aug. 19, 2013

DB: Goldsmithgate.

Aug. 20, 2013

No, Filnergate as I said. Goldsmith, though not likeable, didn't sexually harass women as far as we know.

Aug. 20, 2013

DB: Neither did Nixon. Goldsmithgate, definitely. Ah, and as far as we know, neither did Filner. He denied those allegations. Goldsmithgate, doesn't it have a nice ring to it?

Aug. 20, 2013

Don I will be at Rosy O' Gradey' or nearest bar, gotta change my sound in 30 in, itching,

Aug. 19, 2013

"Thank Heaven for Little Girls" Maurice Chevalier

"Thank Heaven for Carl DeMaio" - Supporters of Bob Filner and Scott Peters

Aug. 19, 2013

"Thank Heaven for Gloria Allred"

Aug. 20, 2013

Does anybody else see parallels to this circus with another large influential organization ... ? ... called the Catholic Church?

Aug. 19, 2013

Does anybody remember the Matt Potter column that talked about the domestic violence charges leveled against the brute who is accusing Filner of sexual harassment? Why is no one bringing this up?

Unnecessary roughness By Matt Potter Published Wednesday, Feb. 6, 2008 , San Diego reader Jostling in the race for San Diego city attorney is becoming more pronounced as the major candidates lining up against incumbent Mike Aguirre seek to gain advantage. Likely to play a role in the campaign are documents from the 1986 divorce case of one prospective contender, superior court judge and ex-Poway mayor Jan Goldsmith, whose wife Christine accused him of turning “a minor disagreement into a major altercation.” According to a signed statement by Christine dated April 15, 1986, Goldsmith “began yelling and screaming at me in obviously uncontrolled anger. He then gave me a hard shove in the chest and cocked his fist in an extremely threatening manner. All of this appeared in front of the children causing them to be extremely upset and telling their father not to hit their mother. He then began throwing items off the kitchen counter in his continuing rage. I could not leave at that time without further aggravating the situation and exposing myself to potentially further harm.” The next day, she said, she slept at her sister’s house with the children. “I am afraid to go back to the house the Respondent is still there as I feel his anger may once again get the best of him and he may, in fact, cause physical danger to myself and irreparable harm to both myself and our minor children.” The couple later reconciled and Christine dropped the divorce action against her husband, but the story may resonate during the upcoming campaign; part of the city attorney’s responsibilities include running the Domestic Violence and Special Victims Unit. Both Goldsmiths are judges; she was appointed in 1987, he in 1998. In a statement issued by his campaign consultant this week, Goldsmith and his wife noted that they have been married 33 years and said, “At about the 12-year mark — in 1986 — we had our only serious marital problem and were faced with whether to work it out or terminate the marriage. We decided to work it out. We went through several months of counseling and made lasting adjustments in the way we communicate.” He added, “No relationship is without its defining moment. We are by no means ashamed of the way we responded to our defining moment 21 years ago. In fact, we are proud of the way we responded and how our relationship has grown and continues to grow in our 34th year of marriage.

Aug. 20, 2013

Scott - I was in an abusive marriage for 20 years, from the beginning. I decided to stay for our daughter. Divorce is hard on kids, and he threatened to take everything away from me. I was not going to give my house to lawyers or my little daughter to his strange friends or new girlfriend. Had to live in the same house but without a relationship because if I spoke of anything he took offense to (speaking is offense by itself) he would act out some kind of rant and rage. He died (2011) at 64 of a heart attack. (Heavy smoker)

Aug. 20, 2013

I never made it out of the house last night. At least I know what kind of nut I am.

Aug. 20, 2013

By your postings, WE know too!

Aug. 20, 2013

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