So, yet another woman has stepped forward to claim the throne of who has slept with Tiger Woods. What the hell? How did he manage to keep this under wraps for so long, only to now have the lid blown off like a cannon shot?

I can only think he must have been paying massive amounts of money to these broads to keep their mouths shut, and now that the cat's out of the bag, they are making massive amounts of money to open them up. This kind of behavior makes me ill.

Is this how you become a success in our country now? You sleep with a celebrity and then tell-all when he finally gets caught? Not that I am excusing his behavior, but he is the one with the money, and he can pretty much do whatever the hell he wants.

This shameless media circus is really bothering me. I don't think Tiger Woods tried to project a squeaky-clean image as much as the media made it up and he went along with it. This is typical. Having to live up to that image means the fall will be that much greater when it eventually happens. And it always does.

And these skanks who are making money off of this? They are talking to lawyers, magazines, whoever will give them the most money and attention. They were not victims!! They chose to sleep with a married man who is the father of two children. Do you think they would have given him the time of day if he was just some average Joe with a wife, a couple of kids and a mortgage? Hell no. I can only think that the solution to celebrity cheating is to cheat with someone who stands to lose as much, if not more, as you. Seems to rarely be the case. Tila Tequila, anyone?

There are two camps of thought surrounding this. I happen to think that it really is a private matter between him and his wife. Others think his celebrity status requires him to make public his private life. Says who? His corporate sponsors? That's what happens when you become an icon. You are indebted to Gatorade or Nike or Wheaties. You sold your soul to the corporations that sponsor the tournaments that pay you the big bucks to be a perfect athlete, family man, a spokesperson for their products.

But what happens when you become human? I know what he did to his family was a horrible, selfish act of self-indulgence but maybe all the pressure to be something that deep down he was not made Tiger Woods want to act out. I know that I would not want to be put up on some pedestal and watched for the eventual cracks in my veneer. That's got to be some serious pressure.

I do feel bad for his wife. She loves him. You don't chase after someone with a golf club if you don't love them, you just call the lawyers. I am sure she is furious about this, and hurt beyond belief, but I can't help but feel sorry for the guy. He's been molded and crafted his entire life. His biggest mistake was buying into the perfect image and marrying a perfect wife and buying a perfect house and having two perfect children at such a young age. He had achieved so much and probably looked around and said "now what? I'm in my early thirties, I am famous, I have a sh*tload of money, and I can't do ANYTHING". Risky behavior is the result of boredom. I can imagine that Tiger Woods was probably very bored with the cookie-cutter life that had been orchestrated for him.

I'm gonna have to give Tiger Woods a pass on this.

More like this:


CuddleFish Dec. 5, 2009 @ 7:20 p.m.

Agree. Pass.

More to say, but better not to say it.


PistolPete Dec. 5, 2009 @ 10:24 p.m.

Just more fodder for the dumbing down of this rapidly pathetic country. Baaaaaaaaaaaa!


David Dodd Dec. 5, 2009 @ 11:10 p.m.

It's a little difficult for me to feel sorry for Tiger Woods. Nobody forced him to marry and have children and then cheat on his wife. Men with bazillions of dollars and an overactive penis should refrain from marriage and especially from having children until they come to terms with what they want in life. When I get bored, I go to my local watering hole and drink beer and watch soccer.

I would be more inclined to believe that his wife is a total victim except I keep hearing (one cannot escape this scandal) that her lawyers are redrawing the prenuptual agreement as sort of a five year contract, and, you guessed it, she gets a lot more money if he screws up.

I really feel sorry for the kids.

But yes, I have no idea why this is getting so much media coverage. It's between them. I just hope their kids don't get all messed up once they grow up and find out about this.


antigeekess Dec. 5, 2009 @ 11:12 p.m.

"I'm gonna have to give Tiger Woods a pass on this."

What? That's kinda pathetic, Grant. You & Cuddle are both sounding like rather typical female-blaming females, here. With men, it's "bros before hos." With women, it's never anything of the kind. Females can't wait to make negative judgments about other females, while making excuses for male behavior.

"They chose to sleep with a married man who is the father of two children." Sure, blame the women & give the "married man who is the father of two children" a "pass." The skanks didn't marry his wife and make a bunch of big ole promises in front of God-n-everybody. HE did.

This wasn't the governor of South Carolina, who was all "in love" and teary-eyed over one woman he couldn't imagine living without. This was simply a case of a serial philanderer, a repeat offender whose character is obviously no better than any other typical "dawg" you might meet in any bar (in which he apparently spends a LOT of time).

You two can agree to give him a "pass." I'll agree with this guy:

The best comment, from the golfer who introduced Woods to his beautiful young wife: "I would probably have to apologize to her and hope she uses a driver next time instead of a 3 iron."

That said, I'm sick of the subject as well. Shoulda never been on the news in the first place.


MsGrant Dec. 6, 2009 @ 8:58 a.m.

Anti, always the voice of reason. I agree with everything you are saying, but I guess my point really is the cult of celebrity and the zest in which our "heros" pursue their extra-curricular activities is really quite pathological. How do you cope with the pressure to be perfect? Some drink, some take drugs, some have meaningless sex. I suppose I am really disappointed that someone I used to have respect for turned out to be just another scumbag. But what came first? The celebrity or the scumbag? That's where I was going. It's all so gross. I didn't realize just how many women he has slept with. Apparently the number is really high. I'm over it.


CuddleFish Dec. 6, 2009 @ 9:16 a.m.

I was misunderestimated, I think, AG. :)

Let me explain it this way, and this is the problem I'm having.

If you want to talk about Tiger Woods as an individual married man, then I pass: It's their private business.

If you want to talk about him as representing something larger, then I pass: This is the way of the world.

I didn't make the rules. And I can't change them.

If I were Queen of the World would things be different? I guess that's the more interesting question.


antigeekess Dec. 6, 2009 @ 11:48 a.m.

"If I were Queen of the World would things be different?"

Well Cuddle, you could make adultery a criminal offense, and slap a fine on it that's in accordance with the offender's income and/or net worth. :)

(Skipping the obvious divorce settlement joke for now.)

I think the proceeds from such a fine would be best distributed to children's charities, since it's children that are usually most affected by the divorce resulting from their horndog daddy's inability to keep it in his pants and out of women who aren't his wife and their mother.

How much do you think is fair?

That's $1,000,000,000.00. I think, which is one penny more than $999,999,999.99. (See, I don't usually have to deal with numbers this high. Perhaps you can relate.)

I like St. Jude's Children's Hospital, personally. Even more appropriate might be some cash thrown at the Big Brothers/Big Sisters program, since philandering results in so many kids ending up short one parent. I'll bet we could take half of Tiger's money, and he wouldn't even notice. Hell, I bet we could take 90% of it, and he wouldn't notice.

He'll probably get to find out when Elin gets done with him. I'll bet her lawyer finds a whole new place to stick that driver, but that's another blog entry.



MsGrant Dec. 6, 2009 @ 12:06 p.m.

I just don't get why these celebrities get married and have kids in the first place. Is it because they want to be like everyone else, and then behave like the rules don't apply to them? I don't know if an adultry fine would work, but in California's case, it could solve our financial issues in a day.


SDaniels Dec. 6, 2009 @ 12:34 p.m.

BAAAAAAHHH. A-hem. Sorry, just clearing my throat ;)

MsGrant wrote:

"That's what happens when you become an icon. You are indebted to Gatorade or Nike or Wheaties. You sold your soul to the corporations that sponsor the tournaments that pay you the big bucks to be a perfect athlete, family man, a spokesperson for their products."

I understand what you are saying, MsG, but what of organizations like United Way, or Boys Club of America, etc., that athletes tend to sponsor themselves? He may have chosen to donate rather than sell his soul to nonprofits, generously lending his image, serving as titular figurehead? Here is some sizeable responsibility that perhaps some of these athletes understand less well than the politicians do, and so these worthwhile organizations suffer losses along with them? Millions in cancer research, or after school programs, etc., because an athlete screwed around on his wife? I guess it does, since they are often marketed in similar ways.

“…are both sounding like rather typical female-blaming females, here. With men, it's "bros before hos." With women, it's never anything of the kind. Females can't wait to make negative judgments about other females, while making excuses for male behavior.”

This sounds just as reductive of women, AG. I will take my non-female-judging self and forgive you, because you wrote this punny little gem:

“I'll bet her lawyer finds a whole new place to stick that driver, but that's another blog entry.”


MsGrant Dec. 6, 2009 @ 12:44 p.m.

Maybe, SD, the silver lining to this will be that most celebrities, when caught with their pants down, do tend to make very public donations of their time and money to worthwhile charities in order to polish up their tarnished images.

It's smarmy and self-serving, but I'll take it.


MsGrant Dec. 6, 2009 @ 12:57 p.m.

Oh, wait, I get what you are saying now. That the images of these organizations may get tarnished as well, and that donations may drop off because the celebrity spokesperson had a fall from grace. That is an excellent point and one I doubt a single celebrity thinks about when they are asked to spearhead.


CuddleFish Dec. 6, 2009 @ 1:15 p.m.

Somewhere I read that Tiger was anticipating that he would have to buy his wife, ala Kobe Bryant when he was caught, a "house on a finger."

The whole thing is not worth discussing and I wish we would stop discussing it.


SDaniels Dec. 6, 2009 @ 7:39 p.m.

Awe, what's wrong with a little gossip now and then? Grant and I moved it to somewhat of a higher ground, didn't we? And MsG, yes, I meant what you responded to in #12, writing:

"I doubt a single celebrity thinks about when they are asked to spearhead."

I thought immediately of the crassness of a celeb who poses nude for an anti-fur campaign, and then forgets this means she can no longer wear furs herself. Ugh.

But back to Tiger's other "Action Plan":

"Defining goals and achieving them while giving back to the community is what Tiger's Action Plan is all about. A character development program for youth 8-17, Tiger's Action Plan addresses three priorities: character education, volunteer service and career exploration."

Character development... They should include a component on PR stop gap damage strategization :)

More on the "Action Plan" for kids. It's just sad.


CuddleFish Dec. 7, 2009 @ 3:39 a.m.

Awe, what's wrong with a little gossip now and then?

By SDaniels 7:39 p.m., Dec 6, 2009

Oh well, if that's all it is, then by all means, gossip away!!!


DaniLauder Dec. 7, 2009 @ 9:59 a.m.


I see no difference with Tiger Woods and Adam Lambert. They are both in the public eye and we have spent more time on this board bantering about Adam than anything else so why not banter about Tiger?


MsGrant Dec. 7, 2009 @ 4:01 p.m.

More like Ugg. Remember Pam Anderson not realizing Ugg boots were made of sheepskin? Wow, a whole foundation based on character development. He's got some 'splaining to do.


David Dodd Dec. 7, 2009 @ 4:25 p.m.

While I sit here and type, I listen to sports talk radio in the background. I get the latest Tiger Woods updates, apparently, whether I want them or not. Let's see... the wife left the home over the weekend, taking the two kids with her, she's staying with a friend now... Tiger's involvement with other women isn't limited to one or two, at last count there's twelve, including some porn star. This is like watching a train wreck slowly happen right in front of you, and when you turn away, it turns with you.


antigeekess Dec. 7, 2009 @ 10:06 p.m.

I have to wonder how many of them have proof, though, gringo. I mean, this is bound to be such a lucrative gravy train that I'm thinking of hitching a ride myself. :)

Sure, I did him. It was 2 years ago. Prove I didn't.



David Dodd Dec. 7, 2009 @ 10:45 p.m.

There's no telling, AG. Well, there is telling, I reckon, but as you point out, no proof. Except for the text messages. And the voice mails. Of course, the money they are making is from tabloids and other publications, so I guess that the price they pay in order to get paid is their own exposure. If I did Tiger, I'm not sure it would be worth it for me to admit it...


antigeekess Dec. 7, 2009 @ 10:55 p.m.

IF YOU did Tiger (and had proof), I think the tabloids would 'definitely' make it worth your while! LOL.

What a difference a week makes.

Squeaky Clean Role Model -> Guy Who Had Affair -> Serial Horndog Sex Addict -> Bisexual Serial Horndog Sex Addict.

Wow. I'm sure there's a vid somewhere. One of these chicks just HAD to have a hidden camera. Then it'll be something like this:


CuddleFish Dec. 8, 2009 @ 3:56 a.m.

Things are getting serious:

MSNBC Report: Woman rushed to hospital from Tiger Woods' home.


CuddleFish Dec. 8, 2009 @ 3:58 a.m.

breaking news NBC, and news services updated 3:40 a.m. PT, Tues., Dec . 8, 2009 WINDERMERE, Fla. - A woman was transported to hospital from Tiger Woods' Florida home after firefighters responded to a medical call early Tuesday, NBC News reported.

According to Orlando-based WESH, the adult female was taken from the $2.6 million masnion "on advanced life support" after firefighters received a call at 2:36 a.m.

A radio log showed an adult female was transported to Health Central Hospital, WESH reported.


SDaniels Dec. 8, 2009 @ 4 a.m.

Beat me to it, Cuddle. As she was wheeled toward the hospital doors, I noticed that the woman has very light blonde hair, like Elin Nordegren...


CuddleFish Dec. 8, 2009 @ 4:02 a.m.

That's what I saw, too, Daniels, looked like a young blonde woman, to me.


SDaniels Dec. 8, 2009 @ 4:05 a.m.

Overdose is what I'm thinking. Horrible, but...there's been a lot of upset in a young mother's life--now to be publicly associated with her husband's multiple indiscretions...


CuddleFish Dec. 8, 2009 @ 4:07 a.m.

Probably shouldn't speculate further, until things are more certain.


SDaniels Dec. 8, 2009 @ 4:59 a.m.

A middle-aged blonde woman now reported as the one transported to hospital, with a younger blonde woman following in a black Escalade...


Duhbya Dec. 8, 2009 @ 6:11 a.m.

Anyone still think he "gets a pass"?


SDaniels Dec. 8, 2009 @ 6:51 a.m.

Well, what do you think, Duhbya? Weigh in ;)


Duhbya Dec. 8, 2009 @ 7:13 a.m.

Regardless of who was taken from his home this morning, the fact is that he has single-zipperedly transported his entire family (including relatives) to a new and pitiable level of scrutiny. Earl would be so proud of you, Tigey. I cannot begin to fathom the confusion, disappointment, and pain his wife might be experiencing. A pass? He should have passed on marriage vows. Maybe he and Letterman can room up?


Ponzi Dec. 8, 2009 @ 7:27 a.m.

He may be disciplined on the golf course, but he has no restraint control in his personal life. We seem to be able to forgive when there has been an affair with another woman. But with Tiger this is another level completely, he has assembled and harem and these are not really affair of love, but hook-ups with multiple partners simultaneously for the purpose of sex alone.

Tiger is a little boy in a mans body who is good with a golf club but has failed at being a mature man. He apparently has a low self esteem that must be fed with multiple sex partners and I would guess unprotected sex as well.

Why are you surprised at the women wanting money to talk? Their behavior demonstrates they were whores to begin with.


Ponzi Dec. 8, 2009 @ 7:37 a.m.

As I looked at Google Trends this morning, I see that “Tiger Woods” and similar phrases are the top search on Google again.

So the people that think it’s “non of our business” are in the minority. There are hundreds of millions of people searching for breaking news about the Woods scandal everyday.

Today the news is that his wife has moved out of the house.

I wonder what tomorrows news will be?


SDaniels Dec. 8, 2009 @ 7:54 a.m.

UPDATE: 10:30 AM ET: The patient has been released from the hospital, according to WOFL TV in Orlando.

Read more:

The plot thickens, as earlier reports had the patient "on advanced life support."

In other news: I have stooped to looking at TMZ for information.


SDaniels Dec. 8, 2009 @ 7:57 a.m.

Ponzi opined:

"He apparently has a low self esteem that must be fed with multiple sex partners and I would guess unprotected sex as well."

Why would you guess unprotected sex, Ponzi?

"Their behavior demonstrates they were whores to begin with."

Can you elaborate on this? I am not yet aware of any interviews with women claiming to have slept with Tiger, though admittedly, I have not searched for them. If there are no interviews, and no stories yet, on what do you base this conclusion?


SDaniels Dec. 8, 2009 @ 8:02 a.m.

Woops, it's the mother-in-law, Tiger's wife's mother. I suck at reporting, so will stick to commenting.

31: Excellent summation, Duhbya--single-zipperedly! ;)


MsGrant Dec. 8, 2009 @ 8:05 a.m.

I am officially, on the record, retracting my pass. This has taken on a life of its own. There's no middle ground with this guy. Squeaky clean public life, tawdry private life. Which brings to mind my question - which came first? The celebrity or the scumbag? I think my original point was does celebrity make you go crazy? Especially when you are groomed to be perfect?


CuddleFish Dec. 8, 2009 @ 9:09 a.m.

Dubya, assuming you may have been refering to me when you mentioned the pass comment, as I pointed out in a followup comment, I felt Tiger should be given a pass precisely because this was private family business. We see now the consequences of what happens when the press turns something private into entertainment for the masses. My reaction when I saw that news this morning, and thought it might be Elin, was that it was hardly surprising that this happened: I don't think anyone would want to wake up one morning and find themselves on national news because their famous husband was involved with twelve or more women (assuming the stories are true) and is now the butt of snickering jokes based on his, and by force her, sex life.

By the way, for those so quick to condemn: My other reason for giving Tiger a pass is that my guess is that it was Earl's death that caused the sexual acting out. It happens.

Can we please leave these people in peace now?


Duhbya Dec. 8, 2009 @ 10:11 a.m.

CuddleFish, assume no more. At least on this topic. I simply recalled the quote(s), not the quoter(s). I dabble on this site between numerous customer calls, therefore I rarely post anything lengthy (count your blessings) or of substance, for that matter. In this case, I have a difficult time "forgiving" philanderers. Perhaps I'm of the old school, but I'll take monogamous pride to my grave, content with the knowledge that neither my wife nor daughter ever suffered the cruelest cut of all due to my puerile shenanigans.


RobertScorpio Dec. 8, 2009 @ 11:52 a.m.


Best post in this thread, by far, Antigee. I love these apologist for this guy. And it is precdictable that it is almost dividing by racial lines. Most blacks, in a poll I saw yesterday, are blaming her, the whites are blaming him.

Black women, at least those I saw yesterday, are saying things like "he should've married a black woman, because black women would have let him have his fun as long as she got the house and kids and the life style"

I don't believe all back women are like that, but in some of these online blogs, and comments, its seems like many do.

I blame Tiger; I don't blame the media. I blame Tiger; I don't blame his wife. I blame Tiger; not the 'white' corporate America.

One of these women he was flinging with says that Tiger's marriage was just for show, and, AND, Elin wouldn't give it up through the back door (ref STICK IT UP YOUR BUTT blog).

Tiger is a moron, and anyone who blames anyone other than Tiger can...ahem...Stick it up their butt!!!


CuddleFish Dec. 8, 2009 @ 11:59 a.m.

I haven't seen any comments here or on any blog I've read "forgiving philanderers." To the contrary, I think most people have been pretty harsh. Whatever the reasons or excuses, only they can decide how they are going to manage their marriage from here on out. It's too bad this has to all play out in the public, and they can't seem to get the space they need to work on starting to work on what their problems are, whichever way they decide to resolve it.

Pride is a sin, by the way.


Duhbya Dec. 8, 2009 @ 12:14 p.m.

Are you the combative type, CuddleFish, or am I misreading you?


CuddleFish Dec. 8, 2009 @ 12:30 p.m.

LOL When did you start asking loaded questions?


Duhbya Dec. 8, 2009 @ 2:31 p.m.

When did you start asking "full" questions? ;>)


nan shartel Dec. 11, 2009 @ 3:31 p.m.

Tiger Tails r boring...ya know he's a young millionaire high profile golfer for cripes sakes

geesus...i can't believe he threw it all away over his gonad itch

Yellow journalism be d*mn on this one but it's become a mell of a hess and no one wins

i never considered him anything but a model for golfing expertise

not his personal life

sex drugs and golfing is the new bywords for the guy

and s*** like golf balls roll down hill


nan shartel Dec. 11, 2009 @ 3:32 p.m.

that cuddlefish is a tricky one...go girls!!!


CuddleFish Dec. 11, 2009 @ 5:04 p.m.

Wonder what straw(berry blonde) broke the Tiger's back?

Tiger says he's taking a break from pro golf, according to his website.


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