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Visduh Nov. 17, 2011 @ 5:48 p.m.


We seldom disagree. Perhaps part of this is due to the news reporting--or lack of same--on the Occupy efforts. I'd like to see these Occupy groups produce some sort of short list of clear steps they want. Thus far, I just don't detect the sort of things that would make this movement a real force.


Don Bauder Nov. 17, 2011 @ 4:50 p.m.

I disagree, Visduh. Many observers criticize the Occupy movement as being unfocused. But I think it is very well focused. The problem is Occupy's targets are complex, unlike the Tea Party's targets. Best, Don Bauder


Visduh Nov. 17, 2011 @ 9:17 a.m.

The Tea Party and Occupy have much in common as their complaints. But the Tea Party has some simple points to make and some clear desires for reform. It wants the system to get out of the way of job creation, shrinkage in governments at all levels and especially the federal government, and a reduction of the tax burden. While Occupy objects to many things that are wrong, such as corporate abuse and income/wealth inequality, unemployment, and unaffordable health care, I don't see the concrete desires for reform. What I see is a great deal of sound and fury signifying little or nothing.

Actually these occupations remind me of the anti-war movement of the 60's and 70's. So, in giving away my age, what I remember was a mass of loud and intemperate objection to the war, but not much accomplishment. The movement had no discernible effect on shortening or ending the war. (In fact, it may have had just the opposite effect, although that is a debate for another time and place.)

Occupy and the Tea Party could both benefit from each other, for there is much common ground. Will it happen? Very unlikely.


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