CV_Res May 3, 2012 @ 10:11 p.m.

Regarding the bogus "Smart Growth" award: There is nothing smart about this growth but the award ploy is clever. They have created an organization that appears to be environmentally based and packed it full of pro-development hacks. Then they give out awards to their clients under the banner of smart growth.  

The award also provides cover for politicians who have sold their vote. They can point to the award as a reason for voting against the interests of their constituents.


CV_Res May 3, 2012 @ 9:45 p.m.

It certainly looks like our City Council Representative has sold us out. When I asked the Carmel Valley representative where she stood on the One Paseo proposal, I got the usual weasel words politicians use when they want to avoid taking a position. Since Sherri Lightner has accepted all these "donations", she needs to prove the developer has not bought her vote.


slifton May 3, 2012 @ 10:29 a.m.

This whole project doesn't smell right, and I can't believe how gullible people are to fall for Kilroy's/Davies's PR tactics. I live in Del Mar Heights, and we're going to be as affected by this development as Carmel Valley is, yet we're not even considered in the DEIR. Nor are neighborhoods within a two-mile (maybe three-mile) radius, which are also going to be significantly--and negatively--impacted. We use the shopping centers and other amenities in Carmel Valley all the time; we use the same freeway onramps and exits. Traffic is already a nightmare during the fair and racing season, and this monstrosity, as the previous comment notes, will add significantly more traffic every single day. And what will happen when people can't get on the freeway at Del Mar Heights? They'll head for the coast, as they do now, backing up traffic on Del Mar Heights and Camino Del Mar.

The DEIR also makes no mention of plans to widen I-5, and what effect that will have on traffic in the area, along with the impacts of One Paseo.

The decision to limit the DEIR's scope to the very small area just around the development seems deliberate and duplicitous. This a project with regional implications, and to imply otherwise is simply dishonest, maybe worse.

San Diego has a long, appalling history of rubber-stamping inappropriate development projects without any regard for the infrastructure to support them--in this case, roads and transportation. (Read a book called Under the Perfect Sun for more info on that.) If One Paseo is allowed to go through as proposed, it will be yet one more black mark against a city council that cares more about campaign (and possibly other) contributions than it does about the interests of the people its members were elected to represent. Why not put something of this scale out along the 56, where there is adequate land and where there's an opportunity to put in enough roads, and limit development on the One Paseo property to the 500,000 square feet it is zoned for (which will also have an effect on local traffic, only not as much)?

I voted for Lightner last time, but she's lost my vote. This is unconscionable.


kkey May 2, 2012 @ 10:17 p.m.

I am a Carmel Valley resident who's opposed to One Paseo.

You missed about half of the campaign contributions associated with One Paseo. I've found the total is at least $5500 (10% of the total for that time period). Kilroy has hired Davies Public Affairs as their PR firm; their executives and spouses have also contributed to Lightner. This PDF documents all the One Paseo contributions i've found for Lightner's January - March campaign contributions filings: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9913030/LightnerContributions_JanuaryToMarch2012%20Sheet1.pdf

Wondering about all those nice pro-One Paseo articles that keep appearing in the local news? Read this article by the late Molly Ivins that quotes John Davies on the type of PR tactics they practice, including generating fake grassroots support (aka astroturf): http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19950717&slug=2131762

And just to be thorough, here's the proof that Davies Public Affairs is working for Kilroy on the One Paseo project (scroll down to the Davies award for "A main street for Carmel Valley":



cskeen May 16, 2012 @ 2:13 p.m.

With Sherri Lightner's primary opponent self financing his campaign, it's hard to fault her campaign for taking whatever it is given. It's the role of the community to be certain that we understand the project and let Lightner know how we feel. I hope that she will vote with the community, and have no reason to believe that she won't. Yes, we all need to wake up to this and get involved. Great list above; I hope that you are submitting these in response to the DEIR.


ekleber May 16, 2012 @ 12:44 p.m.

"Top executives at Kilroy and Davies have given the maximum contribution allowed to District 1 city councilmember Sherri Lightner’s reelection campaign."

Business as usual in San Diego and for Lightner. On April 19, 2011, the San Diego City Council voted to approve a project to expand the Flower Hill Shopping center located one exit up I-5 from the Kilroy site, and also within Lightner's fiefdom.

On June 30th, 2011 Jeffrey Essakow, who controls ownership of Flower Hill, hosted a "Fundraising Cocktail Reception" at his La Jolla home to "support Sherri Lightner and her re-election campaign". Suggested minimum contribution was $250, with $500 bestowing "host" status.

The train for One Paseo's approval is steaming down the tracks right now. Unless the residents who will impacted by what is proposed organize and demand accountability and real answers, the charade of the City's approval process will play out, traffic in that area will become more of a mess, and people will be wondering how it could have ever happened. For starters,

  • Demand an accurate 3-D model of what is proposed so that a casual observer can see the bulk, scale, and mass of the project.
  • Question the assumptions of the traffic analysis. How might pedestrian activity influence the timing and supposed synchronization of traffic signals which is held out as essential for the mitigation of increased traffic?
  • The "creates jobs" card is being touted as one of the benefits. What happens when construction is complete? Could someone be an employee of a business at the proposed center and actually make enough money to rent in the area, let alone buy a house? I doubt it. If I'm wrong, show me the numbers.
  • Where will the sales dollars of all of the new businesses come from? That's right, mostly from other businesses in the area. Optimists would say the competition might lower prices overall. My guess is that the rents that Kilroy will demand will mop up any potential benefit that would go to consumers.

Wake up, Carmel Valley. If you care about the kind of environment you live in, this is the time to get involved and make your feelings known to The Carmel Valley Community Planning Board, The San Diego Planning Commission, the City Council, and Sherri Lightner. Once it's built, it's too late. Kilroy is here whether or not they stay and if or how the project is built is up to you.


kkey May 16, 2012 @ 1:52 p.m.

Also, a link to the City websites documents showing DS's lobbying efforts would be helpful. I wasn't able to find anything at all.


Visduh May 17, 2012 @ 8:22 p.m.

The traffic in that area is already disgraceful. In the morning with all the Moms and Dads delivering the rug rats to school, the streets are packed and move at a crawl. Tried to get up close to Carmel Valley Middle in the half hour before school starts? Traffic in London is better than that! And all that area needs, or any other area needs, is more retail space that will end up half-filled at best, or just plain unused. No, this is another developer's wet dream, and should be scaled down, 'way down, to something consistent with existing density as best.


kkey May 16, 2012 @ 8:51 a.m.

If you are against the astroturfing of Carmel Valley, you can sign this petition that will be submitted to City Councilmember Sherri Lightner: https://www.change.org/petitions/san-diego-stop-one-paseo-it-s-too-big-for-carmel-valley


dphilli2 May 16, 2012 @ 7:19 p.m.

Thanks for the article. From a short stint collecting signatures I believe that most residents in the CV area are not really aware of the plan for One Paseo. When folks become aware they are not in favor. I urge all readers to discuss this project with their friends and neighbors and to voice their inclination either way. links to the con and pro web pages are provided in one of the posts above.


Dorian Hargrove May 16, 2012 @ 3:29 p.m.

LoveSD, I have not attended any community meetings but reviewed hundreds of emails, as part of a public records request, between Kilroy execs, Escobar-Eck, and City staff. In addition to that, I have read some of the Draft EIR, and spoke to 8 residents and Bob Little. I would say, and others would agree, that it is sufficient.

Also, I never wrote that the proponents are not genuine in their support for the project. Some residents (some being the important word here) claim this "astroturfing" is happening with this project. So, the article was about their claims and the PR firm hired by Kilroy, which happens to be known nationally for it's "astroturf" lobbying.

Thanks for your comment!



kkey May 16, 2012 @ 4:07 p.m.

In all due respect, I wonder who you are anonymous poster? I am Kerry Key, UCSD research scientist and Carmel Valley resident of the past 12 years. I've only been to one local planning board meeting so far, but it was by far dominated by those of us in opposition of One Paseo.

Here are some concrete numbers for you about the scale of the opposition. The online petition is now up to nearly 300 signers (scroll down to see the names of real residents who aren't tied to PR firms or local development consulting firms): https://www.change.org/petitions/san-diego-stop-one-paseo-it-s-too-big-for-carmel-valley

We will also continue to collect signatures in person at our local shopping centers until this project is either killed or reduced back to the current entitlement of 500,000 sq feet. I've spent the past three weekends involved in collecting signatures, along with a few dozen other volunteers from the community. We will have over 1000 signatures very soon. Its revealing to talk to our friends, neighbors and fellow residents when we're out at the shopping centers. Simply put, most of them are ardently opposed to the project (or had no idea about its massive scale and negative traffic impacts and then become opposed). In three weekends i've only met 3 people who ardently support the project, and two of them admitted they were developers.

The online presence of the One Paseo "supporters" is very suspect. Their website looks like it cost a fortune to create: http://mainstreetambassadors.com/

Many of the vocal supports of One Paseo have questionable professional conflicts of interest: Janette Littler states on her own consulting website that she "is a leading grassroots communications strategist who builds productive and diverse coalitions among community members and leaders. " Cynthia Dial, another supporter who's name is all over the local newspapers and pro-One Paseo websites, is well know travel writer and ghostwriter. The website TheCarmelValleyLife.com has the appearance of a front for the One Paseo propaganda machine since they continue to only post pro-One Paseo stories. Its interesting that TheCarmelValleyLife.com appeared around the same time as One Paseo did last year...its also interesting that on their facebook page they have photos of a lavish launch party at the PAC that coincidentally has a full table and poster boards with One Paseo advertisements.


backaway May 17, 2012 @ 8:07 a.m.

Janette Littler has been a paid consultant for many years. All one has to do is to google: 'Janette Littler One Paseo' to see that she has had numerous letters to the editors to many local newspapers published, posted on social websites such as Facebook, etc., extolling the benefits of One Paseo to the surrounding community. She was even interviewed by a television news crew after attending the last Torrey Pines Community Planning Board meeting regarding One Paseo. She was introduced by the San Diego television news reporter as a concerned Carmel Valley resident as Janette went on to praise the benefits of One Paseo to the surrounding community.

I find it very disturbing that a paid consultant can write letters to the editor of numerous newspapers, post on social media, get interviewed by television news crews, and who knows what other media and never once disclose that she is a paid consultant regarding the topic she is supposedly giving her opinion on as a 'concerned resident'.


backaway May 17, 2012 @ 9:57 a.m.

Correction: My sincerest apologies.

It was not a television news crew that interviewed Janette Littler - it was the Del Mar Times reporter. The rest of the information regarding Janette's interview after the Planning Board meeting remains the same. She was referred to as a Carmel Valley resident with no further clarification in the article.


kkey May 16, 2012 @ 1:45 p.m.

If you knew the many residents here who've spent considerable amounts of their own time and money fighting One Paseo you might have stated otherwise. As a 12 year Carmel Valley resident, this is the first time i've seen so many neighbors stop being so apathetic towards local politics. The threat of a monstrosity clogging our roads with traffic has rallied us to speak up! Donahue Schriber can lobby as they please as a local business but What Price Main Street is separate from them. Who knows who else is lobbying against One Paseo? We do know that Kilroy is certainly lobbying the city hard! They've even set up "project green light" to help get more voices whispering in the ears down at city hall: http://www.biasandiego.org/projectgreenlight.php


cskeen May 16, 2012 @ 2:09 p.m.

Ahem, just because a grassroots community takes money from a local mall owner doesn't mean that it's not grassroots; What Price Main Street doesn't take direction from Donahue Schriber; it's a "bottom up" community organized group, which makes all the difference.
Too bad the Reader comments still allows anonymity; with respect, whom do you work for EOgirl?


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