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Blackwater Worldwide, the controversial mercenary firm, has filed suit in federal court claiming that the City is thwarting for political reasons its attempt to have a training facility near the border. Earlier, Blackwater was stopped in its bid for a major outdoor training facility in Potrero in far East County. Then it quietly moved to put an indoor facility near the border. City Attorney Mike Aguirre said the project needed further review, and now Blackwater has gone to court, saying the City was currying favor with activists, among other things. "We are going to bring a motion to dismiss the case on the grounds that there is no basis to go to federal court," says Aguirre. Blackwater "wants to skip the process. But [Blackwater's planned facility] will require a review by the planning commission and probably the city council."

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Don Bauder May 31, 2008 @ 6:18 a.m.

Response to post #17: I never said that the City was overreaching, and I don't believe Johnny did. I believe that the facility needs further review: Blackwater used a different name to get the permit; the shooting range is about three blocks from the border; Blackwater previously expressed an interest in getting border business. Blackwater is being challenged in a number of places, including Congress, and deserves to be. However, it appears Judge Huff will give it what it wants Tuesday. Best, Don Bauder


Don Bauder May 28, 2008 @ 6:49 a.m.

Response to post #5: There are a lot of scams that are technically legal, particularly stock market riggings. That's why crooks hire the best-paid lawyers. This Blackwater facility on the border should be probed deeply. There may be something that the company didn't reveal. Best, Don Bauder


JohnnyVegas May 27, 2008 @ 8:22 p.m.

The question is will BW's use (indoor range) conform with what is allowed. It appears it does on the face of the facts, but there is some room for debate.

I cannot stand BW, but I think the City may have over reached in this case, and it is a slippery slope if we start making up excuses for valid permitted uses.

It will never stay in federal court, why they filed there might be because they feel local judges will not give them a fair shake; but there are no federal issues, these are land use issues. Purely local/state issues.


Don Bauder May 27, 2008 @ 9:08 p.m.

Response to post #1: City Attorney Mike Aguirre agrees that there are not federal issues and the case should not be in US district court. I don't know that San Diego is guilty of overreach; the facility has only been delayed, not stopped. Military facilities, especially on the border, should be scrutinized closely. Best, Don Bauder


Don Bauder May 27, 2008 @ 9:10 p.m.

Response to post #2: In the aging process, most people pay less and less attention to soiled shorts. Best, Don Bauder


Fred Williams May 28, 2008 @ 6:23 a.m.

I suspect that in a strictly legal sense, the mercenaries of Blackwater may be right. They got a permit and under the current rules they probably weren't violating anything. Of course they didn't file under their own names, and performed more than a few paperwork pirouets to get that permit. Still, it looks like what they did is "legal".

That's the problem.

Under the current rules, a mercenary firm, building a private army for pay, really a paramilitary force, is no problem in the United States. And that's just wrong.

In Iraq, these guys are a law unto themselves. They can kill anyone for any reason, and the military can do nothing, the Iraqis can do nothing, the police can do nothing...they answer to no one.

Allowing them to get a foothold here in San Diego, whether in Potrero or at the border, would mean that we'd have these lawless shooters living among us. I'd rather not have ruthless mercenaries as neighbors.

Besides this, whatever happened to the military tradition of training? When I was enlisted I was taught how to shoot by a petty officer. We didn't have civilians running the show.

Now it seems that soldiers are being replaced by contractors not only in places like the mess hall, but in combat too.

That's a very dangerous situation. Mercenaries are in it for the money and don't give a damn about the rest of us. They have no patriotism or love of country...they love cash and will fight for whoever has the most of it.

This is why, even if Blackwater "followed the rules" I'm still opposed to their presence in our home. Those rules have to be changed. What kind of people think that training people how to kill is a "vocational school"? How did they get that permit?

So I applaud the efforts to keep these killers out of our community.


Fred Williams


Fred Williams May 28, 2008 @ 9:20 a.m.

It's confirmed...Mike Neal is Blackwater's lawyer.


Don Bauder May 28, 2008 @ 12:03 p.m.

Response to post #7: Yes, Mike Neil is representing Blackwater. One interesting facet is that Neil is a lifelong active duty Marine and reservist. People on active duty have not been very happy with the high-pay roles these mercenary firms have played in Iraq and other places. Best, Don Bauder


Don Bauder May 28, 2008 @ 12:04 p.m.

Response to post #8: Think about this: is fumber actually Mike Neil? Hmmmm. Best, Don Bauder


Russ Lewis May 28, 2008 @ 3:34 p.m.

Not him, JV. The guy in the pic's not drooling and has a full set of chromosomes.


Fred Williams May 28, 2008 @ 4:33 p.m.

Now you guys quit picking on my good friend fumbler.

Why just last night at the wet sheets and hot air encounter group, he squeezed my manly mamaries and slipped me some porno and a joint. Unfortunately, I'm so grossly overweight now that I am completely unable to locate my shrunken genitals, but I sure did appreciate his generosity.

I just wish he'd give me back my ACLU card. He claimed he was just "borrowing" it, but I suspect he's using it at parties to impress women.

So leave fumber alone you bullies! It's not nice to pick on the retarded kids.


Don Bauder May 28, 2008 @ 5:40 p.m.

Response to post #11: Hartline is a possibility, but so is Gen. Neil. Don't you think fumber writes like and acts like a Marine general? Best, Don Bauder


Don Bauder May 28, 2008 @ 5:43 p.m.

Response to post #12: What about the toilet habits of the guy in the photo? Any clues? Best, Don Bauder


Don Bauder May 28, 2008 @ 5:44 p.m.

Response to post #13: Where can I sign up for that encounter group? Best, Don Bauder


Soxer May 30, 2008 @ 8:55 p.m.

So, JV and Mr. Bauder, what do you think of the City Attorney's written opinion in this case? You seem to state that "the City" is overreaching, and from my reading, the overreaching bit came about based on an opinion from Mr. Aguirre. Thoughts?


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