With the Chargers losing their second game of the season (even though they're 1-1), I thought the football fans might like a few stories that don't involve the Chargers getting injured (or getting DUIs).

Surprisingly, when Chad Ochocinco (the dork formerly known as Chad Johnson) did his Lambeau Leap after scoring a touchdown, he was lucky he landed in a section with a few Bengals fans. A few Packer fans nearby flipped him off. And I'm sure it would've gotten worse had they gotten a hold of him.

Chad had mentioned that he was going to Tweet during a game, even if that meant receiving a fine. But I haven't heard of him getting in trouble with that; although Robert Henson, a linebacker with the Redskins, tweeted about the home crowd booing them. He said they were dim wits, and that he disliked them very strongly (I think he should get credit for not cursing).

He also wrote "The question is who are you to say you know what's best for the team and you work 9 to 5 at Mcdonalds."

Look for him to do the make-up PR more where he works at Mickey D's for a day, then claims he's never worked that hard in his life.

A couple of 16-year-olds that weren't content to merely boo when they weren't happy with their team, decided to spray-paint an obscenity on the front lawn of Bills cornerback Leodis McKelvin, following a tough loss.

They avoided criminal charges, but have to perform 120 hours of community service.

Leodis should force his parents to do 120 hours of community service for saddling him with that name.

His teammate Donte Whitner had it worse than just damage to his lawn. During their last game, thieves broke in and stole $400,000 worth of jewelry.

I heard a sports show speculate as to whether it was someone that had been in the home before and knew where to find the stuff. They also talked about whether you should even have that much valuable jewelry in your home, whether it's insured, and all kinds of questions us poor people don't ever have to ponder.

On a much smaller scale financially, one angry fan sent a letter to Oregon coach Chip Kelly (is that a radio name or what?).

Now, we've all writen letters to companies when we have a complaint. And we're not usually satisfied with the results of the letter.

This guy talked about traveling for a road game to watch the team (he was a 1996 graduate). He said it was such an embarassing performance he wanted a refund. He even attached an invoice.

Well, the coach sent a personal check for $439.

The guy ended up making a few copies of the check, which he says he plans to frame. And he sent it back with a thank you card.

I wonder how many idiots in that city will hear the story and send invoices.

Lucky for me, the Reader is free. If someone picks one up and complains they spent five or 10 minutes reading a story of mine they thought was crap, no big loss.

If you're reading this blog from your work computer, your boss can see me about a refund in the pay that was going to you for services that weren't rendered.

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Josh Board Sept. 26, 2009 @ 1:40 p.m.

Well, here's the problem with that logic.

Jim Kelly wasn't making the Hall of Fame. Yet, you put him on the Cowboys instead of Aikman, they still win Super Bowls. And, he's in the Hall of Fame.

You put Aikman on a bad team, and guess what? I'm convinced he's an okay QB, but hardly a hall of famer. I mean, Emmitt Smith held out one season, and the Cowboys only one one game that year, with Aikman. He was only great because he had this insane line that gave him all the time in the world. And when Irving or those guys weren't open, he could dump it off on a 3 yard pass to Emmitt, who would then run for a 38 yard gain!

Doug Flutie, a great college QB who was able to make an NFL career being half way decent, would've been getting Super Bowls on the Cowboys.

And...one Super Bowl, had Neil O'Donnel against another QB that also sucked. And one of them now has a Super Bowl ring. It hardly means they're better than the ones that didn't win a ring.


Josh Board Sept. 23, 2009 @ 9:02 a.m.

I agree with everything, except for the part where you say the leaps are "spontaneous". They're hardly spontaneous anymore, as they've been doing them when they score TDs for years and years now.


PistolPete Sept. 23, 2009 @ 9:51 a.m.

True. I didn't think of that. Although,not all players do the Lambeau Leap.


Josh Board Sept. 23, 2009 @ 10:25 a.m.

I actually always liked the leap. Although, I always kind of liked the Packers. I like the fans involvement in the team. I liked Bart Starr and VLombardi back in the day (I was too young to watch them, but loved the old film footage).

I liked Sterling Sharpe and Favre, and the football they played.

I do hate Favre now, and started hating him when he d***ed over Aaron Rodgers.


PistolPete Sept. 23, 2009 @ 7:35 a.m.

Chad Ohnocinco jumping into the stands was not a"Lambeau Leap" by any stretch of the imagination. He says he was just havin' fun. Bulls. He says he respects the tradition at Lambeau Field. Bulls. I say he's a douchebag. Packer fans did what I thought they would do had Mr.Ohnocinco caught a TD-they rejected him. He had to find Bengal fans in the endzone and"leaped"into their arms. Lambeau Leaps are spontaneous,fun and unfortunetely for 31 teams,reserved for Packer players only.


FullFlavorPike Sept. 23, 2009 @ 11:19 a.m.

I like the idea of 220# football players Tweeting


PistolPete Sept. 23, 2009 @ 1:53 p.m.

Packer fans are one-of-a-kind. I have ALOT of respect for fans of the older teams like the Giants,The Steelers,The Bears and The Browns/Ravens but it's not the same as knowing that you could theoretically buy a part of the team. There's something special about Lambeau Field and TitleTown. Something you don't get with other teams. Soldier Field used to be special until they made it look like the toilet bowl of Lake Michigan. Cheeseheads and the Lambeau Leap are relatively new traditions but I hope they stick around forever.

I'd like to know how Favre dicked over Rodgers. That's new to me.

As for football players tweeting,is THAT why the Chargeless suck donkey balls this year? I don't get the whole"I'm doing nothing here but looking at Asian porn".


mentaltwist Sept. 23, 2009 @ 2:08 p.m.

Hey PPete? when you tell the fans ahead of time that you're jumping into the stands, and then you catch a touchdown, and then leap into the forewarned fans, you're having fun. he called his shot, and took it. even went so far as to meet the fans before the game so he knew where he was headed! sounds like the guy is having fun to me.

and every fan in the league could make a cause for their hometeam and it being special - let's not forget the 'dawg pound' in cleveland, the sea of red in arrowhead, etc. will green bay always have a special place in the hearts of true football fans? of course it will - same as riverfront stadium will for a guy who saw his first nfl game there. it's all in your take on life.

as for favre / rodgers, i'd like to see an answer to that one too. seems to me that the franchise did rodgers a favor by casting their hopes on him as the future and letting brett go. doesn't sound like BF hurt rodgers at all. if brett gave the big salami to anyone, it would have been TJackson and the minnesota vikings. they work all off-season and training camp with the two qb's on the team, then brett strolls in at the last minute to take the starting job? i'd be pissed! then again...it's hard to argue with 2-0 to start a season, so maybe they should enjoy the ride for a while...


PistolPete Sept. 23, 2009 @ 2:26 p.m.

I see your point but as a fan of the team,it's kind of pathetic no matter how fun it may be. This is from someone who threw the ultimate bitch fit and changed his name over a stupid jersey. There are too many drama queens in the NFL today. I'd like to see them get away with the type of s*** they do back in the 60's & 70's. Lombardi NEVER would've put up with Chad,Terrel or Randy.

As for Favre,He'll ALWAYS be my teenage football idol. ALWAYS! He's still an egotistical sack of dog s*** for how he treated his fans at his Minnesota press conference. Someday,I hope he retires as a Packer. I'm not taking sides in his dispute with the Packers orginization because they were both wrong.


Josh Board Sept. 23, 2009 @ 4:09 p.m.

Well, sure, there are people that Favre jerked over more than Rodgers. There's the Jets, who he recently threw under the bus saying they never reported his injury. That got them a fine of $125,000 from the NFL.

There's the QB and rest of the Vikes, who go thru the off-season, only to have him come in the last minute. As he usually does, simply because he "doesn't like training camp" or whatever it is.

With Aaron Rodgers, the dude is a stud quarterback. And ya know what he does? The same thing another stud, hall of fame, QB did (steve young in SF). He bided his time, knowing he was holding a clipboard behind greatness (favre and montana, respectively). Yet Favre each year, for two years, said he'd retire. And then he'd "come back" again, as Rodgers was all ready to go.

FINALLY, the team just said "enough. rodgers is our guy." When they realized that might be a bit of a PR nightmare, they said "Okay...you can come back. And compete for the job." Sounds fair enough to me. But not to Favre, who bails out of town.

I think he should've said "Look...I know I said I was retiring. I still want to play. But I'm older now. And Rodgers is young. Start him...and I'll be his backup." Then, the Pack has the best back-up QB in the league. And everyones happy.

But, nooooo. His ego couldn't handle that, so he has to throw his interceptions for the Jets. And, it's only a matter of time before he realizes that the Vikes are winning, and getting attention, because they have Adrian Peterson, the best RB in football. And he'll want to sling some 70 yard bombs that'll fall 15 yards short, and in a cornerbacks hands.

He'll end up with more interceptions then TDs, but the Vikes will still make the playoffs.


PistolPete Sept. 23, 2009 @ 7:18 p.m.

I don't see the Vikes making the playoffs. Without Favre? Yes. My Packers are still tweaking their system. With Favre? Highly unlikely. Josh? You almost sound like my roommate. He HATES Favre(and the Packers)and until he went to my team's division rival,constantly said how terrible he was. Now that he's in Minnesota,he's always saying"Favre's going to lead that team to the promised land". He,like you,can't have the Favre situation both ways. He either sucks or he doesn't.


Shadowbox Sept. 23, 2009 @ 9:40 p.m.

I might be ok with Ochocinco's Lambeau Leap if he hadn't planted the Bengals fans.

Off ESPN.com:

The promise seemed unwise, the attempt ill-advised. But Chad Ochocinco had a plan all along.

The Bengals receiver announced last week that he hoped to do the Lambeau Leap if he scored in Cincinnati's game against the Green Bay Packers, who most likely would not be playing the gracious hosts.

Chad Ochocinco's good fortune in finding a friendly patch of orange to jump into wasn't exactly all luck. Ochocinco did score, on a 13-yard touchdown pass in the third quarter of the Bengals' 31-24 win Sunday.

Curiously, he managed to find a small patch of orange to jump into, a trio of Bengals fans -- one wearing a tiger-striped cheesehead -- who gave him a big welcome.

But the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel dug and discovered -- it turns out that Ochocinco used his ubiquitous Twitter account and put out the word. And Mike Bergs; his brother, Lee; and Lee's friend, Brian Keil, became part of the conspiracy.

"We're thinking, OK, that would be great if it comes together, but you know how it is. He's got to score in our end zone. Heck, he's got to score, period, and find us in the heat of the moment. We knew there would be a ton of other Packer fans around," Mike Bergs told the Journal Sentinel.

Ochocinco procured four front-row tickets in the north end zone and sent them to Mike Bergs' home in Evanston, Ill., the newspaper reported. (The fourth ticket went to Bergs' friend, Ross Peterson, who actually is a Packers fan. No word on his fate.) They decked themselves out in orange -- Lee Bergs was the one with the corrupted cheesehead.

So it was not hard for the receiver to find his target. "When he started making his way toward us, we knew it was on," Mike Bergs said, according to the Journal Sentinel. "His face. I wish I could have been shooting a camera at him. The smile on his face was from ear to ear. He was so excited.

"That was one of the most pure, fun moments for us as Bengals fans."


Fred Williams Sept. 23, 2009 @ 9:57 p.m.

Dear Josh Board,

Allow me to introduce myself. I'm Mr. Hugh G. Rection, the boss of Mr. Williams, a regular reader of your blog.

Having recently reviewed his online reading behavior and calculated the time spent on your blog, our company has come to the following conclusion:

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Please send remuneration immediately, as you have promised in this blog entry.


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Josh Board Sept. 23, 2009 @ 10:31 p.m.

Nice to hear from ya, Fred. And with a comment that knocks it out of the park. Nice.

Pete...I think Favre is one of the best QBs in football history. I think the last 4 years, he's been a QB that makes bad decisions, and throws too many interceptions.

I think the Vikes will make the playoffs because Favre will do exactly what's needed of him (I think). And that's not make a bunch of big mistakes, hand the ball off to Peterson (and Chester Taylor on occasion), and step out of the way!

Regarding the Bengals fans, that's classic. Thank you so much for posting that. I had no idea.

I gotta say, as much as I hate Chad Ochocinco, I like that move. He rewarded some of his fans and tweet followers, with tickets.

Although, I think the Bengals should fine him. Or explain to him how that crap is more of a distraction to the team.


PistolPete Sept. 23, 2009 @ 11:05 p.m.

I too agree that he's probably the greatest QB of all time and I also agree that he'll be handing off to Peterson & Chester. The only thing is.....will his ego get the best of him when he encounters teams with great run defenses? It'll be Gunfight at the OK Corral in the Metrodome if that happens.


Josh Board Sept. 24, 2009 @ 12:28 a.m.

There's no defense in the league that can contain those two backs. Only an injury to Peterson (which has happened his first few ears), will muck things up.


PistolPete Sept. 24, 2009 @ 1:22 a.m.

I'll take AP or LT anyday but to say that there's no team in the NFL that can't contain AP is absurd. I'm REALLY tired right now and can't really think of any off the top of my head but I KNOW there's a team that can stop AP. Or if not,slow him down.


David Dodd Sept. 24, 2009 @ 1:28 a.m.

"..I KNOW there's a team that can stop AP."

This week. The 49'ers. They stop the gaps, they're agressive on defense, and, my guess, is that they'll be 3-0 after the game.


PistolPete Sept. 24, 2009 @ 1:39 a.m.

They'll do a hell of a job trying to stop him. I'm not sure who I picked in that game. I'll check tomorrow. The stock markets open up in a few hours and I need a catnap.


Josh Board Sept. 24, 2009 @ 11:25 a.m.

Well, I've been watching football for over 30 years. And when I see a back as good as Adrian Peterson (the only other names that come to mind: LT when he was younger, Walter Peyton), the defenses could be the top ranked against the rush. And those backs would still get 100 yards. I noticed this especially in the last 20 years of playing fantasy football. Some people would take out their star running back, because of a tough run defense. And that back would still get 85 yards and 2 TDs.

Now, that doens't mean Peterson won't have a bad game or two this season. All backs do. But that doesn't mean the defense was so great. It could be a number of things.


PistolPete Sept. 24, 2009 @ noon

I'm hesitant to put LT in the same league of player that Payton was in. I don't ever remember Payton telling his coach his vagina hurt. I'm sure that Payton got hurt. He just never made a big deal out of it. I think LT knows he's washed up and would rather run a dog kennel than play football for a Pop Warner team. He'll go into the Chargeless and NFL HOF's. He go on to do endorsements for crappy products. He'll be considered a pillar of the community. Yada yada yada. But Sweetness was a legend. LT? More of a poser who just got lucky.


Josh Board Sept. 24, 2009 @ 3:34 p.m.

Sweetness was a legend. But you've got it all wrong with LT and the injuries. He missed two playoff games, two seasons in a row, due to injury. But that's because the Chargers gave him way more carries than they should've (especially with Michael Turner, now one of the best in the league, as a back-up).

If LT was missing every other game, every season, you'd have a point. I'm guessing (but too lazy) if I checked, I'd find that he really hasn't missed many regular season games.

And for my money, I had more fun watching Payton run (ever see the highlight of him jumping over the pile into the end zone?) But I think LT was better at getting into the end zone in the red zone. In fact, I'm positive of that.


PistolPete Sept. 24, 2009 @ 9:46 p.m.

LT's first regular season sit out was last week's game Vs. Baltimore. We're also talking about two very similar players from two very different eras of football. Football in 1975 was more smash mouth,less pussy football than today's protect-the-players-because-they're-too-soft football.


Josh Board Sept. 25, 2009 @ 1:17 a.m.

Oh geez, man, do not get me started on that. It's one of my pet peeves about football today. Mostly when it comes to refs protecting the quarterbacks. It's gotten so ridiculous. If they don't want to get hit, then they should get rid of the ball earlier. And, with all these QBs running now, and doing different pump fakes and crap, they have to be ready to hit the QB UNTIL THE BALL is about three feet out of their hand (you can't just stomp momentum on a huge linebacker coming at you full speed).

On a side note: I've never seen a stupider move than Favre, who hands off the ball and then pretends he still has it. I've been watching him do that for years, and it fakes out absolutely no one. He just looks like a goof ball doing it.


gardenparty Sept. 25, 2009 @ 11:50 a.m.

Josh and Pete, how would you guys compare LT and AP to someone like say Barry Sanders. Do you think LT can stick around long enough to 3500 more yards? I know LT has more tds but they haven't gotten him to a SB anymore than Sanders' yards did. The thing I liked about Sanders was he could run thru you, over you, around you and if he got in front of you, you weren't going to catch him. But the thing I liked most was that he had fun playing football and when it wasn't fun anymore, he quit. Is it just me, or does LT look like he really ain't havin any fun???


PistolPete Sept. 25, 2009 @ 10:41 a.m.

I totally agree with you on Favre. And if a football player doesn't want to get hit,what in the f*** is doing playing the game? O_o


PistolPete Sept. 25, 2009 @ 12:09 p.m.

LT isn't having anymore fun. He was put up on a pedestel and told"You are the greatest running back the world has ever seen. We're so happy you're a part of the Chargeless organization. Now go on out there and win us the Lombardi we so haven't earned nor deserve!!!!". And LT tried. But LT thought to himself,"You know what? I'd rather run a kennel and shill products like Nike,Vizio,Oggi's,astroturf,hospitals and other lame products that nobody really gives a s*** about". And so LT went to his coach and said"Coach? My vagina hurts". And the coach benched LT never to be seen again.

Sanders was a slice of history between Sweetness and LT. Sanders,like LT and AP was on a s***ty team. Afterall,not all players can be on a 12x championship winning team....


gardenparty Sept. 25, 2009 @ 12:34 p.m.

"He was put up on a pedestel and told"You are the greatest running back the world has ever seen" Yeah I always laugh about that, too. The thing is to get to the top of the pile, LT has to maintain his career averages for over 4 years to catch Smith AND win a Super Bowl. And Smith's 3 worst years, discounting his rookie year, were his last 3. Sorry sports fans. LT has been a great rb for SD, but I guess I am one of the few who think SD should have made a couple of different moves in the last couple of years. Something to provide a better transition between past/present and the future. Can't wait for the hate from that one. LOL


PistolPete Sept. 25, 2009 @ 12:49 p.m.

I'll be the first to give credit where credit is due. LT and AP are BEASTS when it comes to playing football. The bigger question though is the burning and obvious one:When are you guys going to help get us a Lombardi? It's almost as if the Whale's Vagina basks in the glory of their mediocrity.....


Josh Board Sept. 25, 2009 @ 3:32 p.m.

Pete, you need to go out and get some v. Instead of just writing the word constantly in posts, where it doesn't apply.

I don't think LT is having that much fun anymore. And the Chargers did their typical bad moves. They had Michael Turner, who every time touched the ball, made things happen with it. And isntead of realizing LT was getting older, or that they could have two beasts, they let Turner go. I do understand it would've been expensive to keep him, but I'm guessing it wasn't cheap for the Niners to have Montana, Young, and Bono all at the QB position. And all players that would've started on every other team in the NFL (well, maybbe a few teams wouldn't have started Bono).

I thought Sanders was amazing. As Pete said, he was saddled with a bad team. I mean, an awfully bad team. LT kind of has it made, in the fact that he had Brees, a good quarterback. And Rivers, a great quarterback. And Gates, one of the top tight ends in the game...and that helps open things up for him. Much like Emmitt Smith, who probably wouldn't have done all that much, had he not been on amazing Cowboy teams, with the best O-line in football.

The one thing I didn't like about Sanders was that he'd sometimes run sideways. Maybe I'm saying that wrong. I ain't no Bum Phillips, so I can't describe that running style. But, sometimes when a hole isn't there or whatever...you should just plow ahead and pick up two or three tough yards. Sanders would run to the side, and lose 4 or 5 yards. I remember a few games where he actually had negative yards. And a few games where he had under 20 yards. But, those were very few games. The guy was simply amazing on the gridiron.

I never really saw Sanders run thru people, the way you say, garden. But if you want to talk about running thru you, nobody beats Earl Campbell. I've seen games and highlights, where he just knocks someone on their butt, and picks up 8 yards going thru about 3 defenders.

Hey...who was the running back...I seem to think Hershel Walker or Bo Jackson...it was against Seattle. And everyone was making such a big deal about that bust Brian Bostworth. And this back ran into him at the 8 yard line, and just ran right thru his sorry butt, on his way to the end zone. Anyone remember that play? It was one of the funniest, most fun times I ever had watching a game.


PistolPete Sept. 25, 2009 @ 3:50 p.m.

"LT kind of has it made, in the fact that he had Brees, a good quarterback. And Rivers, a great quarterback."

I seriously can't believe you actually typed that. That statement alone just adds to my hatred of Chargeless fans. Either that or you don't know s*** about football,Josh. Brees is lobster. Rivers isn't exactly tuna but until he wins the big one,he'll not even be considered salmon. Whoever wins their team a Lombardi will be considered caviar and Brees is well on his way if the Saints stay healthy.


gardenparty Sept. 25, 2009 @ 5 p.m.

Josh, That was Bo Jackson who ran over the boz, on MNF no less. The was the game where Bo ran ran for over 200 yds, including 90 yds untouched down the sideline into the tunnel. I think Bo made a point of running bosworth down because he (bosworth) had shot his mouth off about shutting Bo down. Imagine how good he could have been if he had'nt gotten injured. Bo knew football!!! As for Sanders, no he never had a negative yardage game in his entire career and I think he had only 2 or 3 under 20 yds. I do remember that one of them was 1yd on 5 carries in his rookie year but I'm sure that was the worst. Pretty amazing to think he had a career average of 99ypg, never rushed for less than 1100yds and averaged over 1500 yds for his career. Oh yeah, the only other player to average better than his 5.0ypc...Jim Brown 5.2. Give him props. He wasn't having any fun playing on a bad team for an owner who wasn't gonna do anything to make the team beter, so he walked away, as the best in the game, and never looked back. Will LT be able to do the same???Hmmmmmmmmmmm And with Emmitt, he had Aikman and Irvin for the bulk of his career. You might stop 1 or 2 of them, but stopping all 3 was pretty tough.


Josh Board Sept. 25, 2009 @ 6:34 p.m.

Good points on Emmitt.

Pete, Brees was merely a "good" quarterback while playing for the Chargers. He's putting up insane numbers with the Saints. Had he put up those kind of numbers (and not been a 5'11" / 6' tall quarterback, without an injury they weren't sure about), the Chargers would've stuck with him.

For you to talk about a QB not being anything until they "win the big win"...well, Marino was one of the best all-time. I believe he never won a Super Bowl.

And, that argument is a tired one, besides. Charles Barkley was one of the best power-forwards to ever play the game (especially at 6'4"), he never won an NBA championship.

Dan Fouts never won a Super Bowl. Hall of Fame quarterback. Frank Tarkanton never won one (and he lost three). Amazing quarterback (who hates Favre, by the way). Those are just the two that popped into my mind. If I wanted to do research, I'm sure I'd find more.


PistolPete Sept. 25, 2009 @ 9:27 p.m.

Then I apologize,Josh. I thought you were talking about this season. As for Marino,Barkley,Fouts and Tarkenton,f 'em!!! You ain't s without a trophy. You're good,but you're hardly the best. I have a feeling it'll be"Philip who?" in about 5 years.


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