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100 Best Movie Villians

On KGBs morning show they talked about the 10 best villians. I forgot who initially put out the list, but it was horribly done. The number one villian (drum roll)...well, I can't even spell it. Some character from Harry Potter. Lame.

Also on the list was Goldfinger. Again, lame pick. Goldfinger wasn't that bad. I mean, he almost did a Jesse Jackson and cut off Bonds manhood. But he didn't. And, you could golf with him. Sure, he wanted to kill everyone at Fort Knox, but he wanted their gold. If you're going to name a villian, pick his sidekick Odd Job (who in real life, won a silver medal in the Olympics for the shot put). In the movie, he'd decapitate people with his top hat. And, if you angered him, he'd crush golf balls. A mean dude, for sure.

When I really knew the list was bad, was when I heard Heath Ledger as The Joker was at #4. Now, this version of Batman (Dark Knight) isn't even out yet! How can a villian be on the list so soon?

I have no problem with them having current people like Javier Bardem from No Country. But Heath Ledger? To be honest, I have more nightmares about being attacked by the character he played in Brokeback Mountain.

So, I Googled to see if anyone else did a list of movie villians. And I found one. I'll print it below, and my comments to follow.

  1. Norman Bates (Anthony Perkins) - Psycho (1960). I don't think anyone would complain about that pick. Honorable mention goes to the violin player. Perkins plays a villian in an underrated film with Kathleen Turner called Crimes of Passion. Go find it.
  2. Dr. Hannibal Lecter (Anthony Hopkins) - The Silence Of The Lambs (1991). This is a great pick. The photo of him wearing the straps and mask across his face is so creepy. The way he's so intelligent and can get into your head. Before he literally gets into your head and eats your brain. But does anyone even remember Hopkins in Magic in 1980, playing the ventriliquist who kills people because his dummy tells him to? I know, it sounds like a Twilight Zone. But he's great in that. But as a kid, I was thinking...I can see you killing Burgess Meredith, but was it necessary to take out Ann-Margret?
  3. Darth Vader (David Prowse / James Earl Jones - voice) - The Empire Strikes Back (1980). I'm not sure why they listed Empire, instead of Star Wars. But yeah, great choice. That outfit, in all black, was great. The voice is classic. And, to hear the breathing. He could choke you without touching your neck, and could slice you up with his light saber.
  4. Nurse Ratched (Louise Fletcher) - One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest (1975). She has no business being on this list. Everyone remembers her as being worse than she is. Watch the movie again (I'm not talking about the book, which is also good). She is bothered by Nicholson coming in and being disruptive. She doesn't let him watch the World Series. But up until the end when she threatends to call one patients mother and rat him out, she really isn't all that horrible. So she gave Nicholson a labotomy...
  5. Amon Goeth (Ralph Fiennes) - Schindler's List (1993). Great choice. I remember he got an Oscar nomination. It was the first time many of us saw Ralph (which for some weird reason, is pronounced "Ray"). A great actor, who disappointed me in In Brouges.
  6. HAL 9000 (Douglas Rain - voice) - 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968). Siskel & Ebert once had the best fight, when they did a list of 10 worst villians. One claimed a computer can't be a villian. Oh yeah, Hal sure was a villian. You try getting locked out of your space ship, or hell, even your Buick, you'll think the car is worse than Christine.
  7. Hans Beckert (Peter Lorre) - M (1931). I was born in 1969. Not familiar with this.
  8. Mr. Potter (Lionel Barrymore) - It's A Wonderful Life (1946). Okay choice. Haven't seen the movie in 20 years, so I can't recall the character. I know, it's on every year. Does anyone know how far Drew's acting family tree goes back?
  9. Regan MacNeil/Satan (Linda Blair) - The Exorcist (1973). My stepdad would say Ronald Reagan was a worse villian. Yeah, this is a good pick. She said some mean things to the priest about his mom. One of the funniest things ever, was watching Richard Pryor do a parody of it on the first season of Saturday Night Live. Lorraine Newman told him, "Your mother sews socks that smell." He screamed, "Don't be talkin' 'bout my mama," before pounding her.
  10. The Queen (Lucille LaVerne - voice) - Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs (1937). Okay choice, but it's weird mixing villians that are from family movies, with killers like Hannibal the Cannibal.
  11. Michael Corleone (Al Pacino) - The Godfarther Part II (1974). I'm sure he'd be number one on the PETA list for the horse alone. But, if you think about it, he probably shouldn't be so high on the list. He only killed other mobsters and people that crossed the family.
  12. The Wicked Witch Of The West (Margaret Hamilton) - The Wizard of OZ (1939). Again, family movie. Sure, we were scared by this character as kids....
  13. Anton Chigurh (Javier Bardem) - No Country For Old Men (2007). An amazingly scarey villian. I'm not sure it was the most practical thing to carry around a heavy air gun/cattle prod thing. And, would people really stand there and let you place it on their forehead? And was anyone else bothered by seeing Woody in that? I was waiting for Carla to walk in and serve them drinks.
  14. Alex DeLarge (Malcolm McDowell) - A Clockwork Orange (1971). Nice choice. I thought the film was highly overrated, though.
  15. Annie Wilkes (Kathy Bates) - Misery (1990). This is a great movie villian. It's nice how you think about it later, and wonder if James Caan had played it differently, would she have done things differently.
  16. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Donald Pleasence) - You Only Live Twice (1967). I've seen too many Bond films, I can't even place him. Did he have a cat on his lap? Or was that Telly Savalas? Damn...now I'm thinking about Bond girls.
  17. Alex Forrest (Glenn Close) - Fatal Attraction (1987). Not a good choice. She was really just a villian to one character. A character that cheated on his wonderful wife. Not that it makes it right for her to boil the kids bunny. And kidnap the child. But still...I think a similar movie, Clint Eastwoods directorial debut "Play Misty For Me," had a worse villian. After all, she not only tortured Eastwood, but killed his maid, and tortured his girlfriend.
  18. Captain Bligh (Charles Laughton) - Mutiny On The Bounty (1935). A classic. Good choice, but I'd probably put it farther down on the list.
  19. Phyllis Dietrichson (Barbara Stanwyck) - Double Indemnity (1944). Nice. Billy Wilder is the best director in the history of film. But she really just suckered a guy. Kind of like Kathleen Turner did in Body Heat. That just makes her a smart sexy woman, involved with gullible guys. Devious yes, but villanious? On a list of the best? Maybe farther down.
  20. Max Cady (Robert Mitchum) - Cape Fear (1962). Mitchum was intense on screen. A great presence. Although the remake got bad reviews, I loved it. And DeNiro was awesome. When he bit a chunk out of that womans cheek...ouch! The finger sucking scene with a young Juliette Lewis was ad libbed by her (she would go on to play a great villian, with Woody Harrelson, in Natural Born Killers).
  21. Mrs. John Iselin (Angela Lansbury) - The Manchurian Candidate (1962). I saw parts of it when I was 12. I barely remember the film.
  22. Freddy Krueger (Robert Englund) - A Nightmare On Elm Street (1984). Good pick. If you get into horror films though, you take up a lot of the list. Will Jason be next? What about Mike Myers? No, not the comedic actor, but the mental patient from the Halloween series.
  23. Eve Harrington (Anne Baxter) - All About Eve (1950). Geez, I didn't remember this as so villanious. But I saw it as a teenager on regular TV. A fan is starstruck, and starts to take over Bette Davis' life.
  24. Terminator (Arnold Schwarzenegger) - The Terminator (1984). This is a great choice. The guy in the second one was a great villian, too. A guy on my high school basketball team liked to count the deaths in movies (he's probably a serial killer now). At the time this was released, it had the most. He loved the scene where a cop says, "Listen lady, we have 38 cops at this station, you're safe here." He said sometimes in scenes like that he just estimates. That time, he wrote the number straight down on his note pad.
  25. Noah Cross (John Huston) - Chinatown (1974). Okay, well, like Goldfinger, he's the main bad guy. The top dog. But isn't Roman Polanski more eerie? He's the creepy little dude that finds Nicholson nosing around, sticks a knife in his nose and slices it up, which leaves him bandaged the rest of the film.
  26. Jack Torrance (Jack Nicholson) - The Shining (1980). Here's Jaaaack again. He ad-libbed that line. I can't believe Stephen King wasn't happy with this movie. And director Stanley Kubrick, who did all his own trailers/commercials, was told he couldn't show the elevator with blood coming out of it. He convinced the censors it was supposed to be red wine from a ballroom party, not blood. They let it slide.
  27. Arthur "Cody" Jarrett (James Cagney) - White Heat (1949). Never saw it.
  28. Gordon Gekko (Michael Douglas) - Wall Street (1987). Good call. I really like this pick. He didn't kill anyone, but boy, he screwed people over financially. And he didn't care what it did to their lives, families, jobs, etc.
  29. Maleficent (Eleanor Audley - voice) - Sleeping Beauty (1959). If they are picking people like this, where is Cruella Da Ville?
  30. Lil' Dice (aka Lil' Ze) (Leandro Firmino) - City of God (2002). Can someone tell me who this is? How is it there's a current movie that has a villian in the Top 30, and I have no clue what this movie even is?
  31. Reverend Harry Powell (Robert Mitchum) - The Night Of The Hunter (1955). Not familiar with it.
  32. Mrs. Danvers (Judith Anderson) - Rebecca (1940). I know it's a classic, just can't remember enough about it.
  33. Senator Palpatine (Ian McDiarmid) - Star Wars III: Revenge Of The Sith (2005). Geez...with a movie that isn't that great, not sure the villian should be this high on the list.
  34. Count Dracula (Bela Lugosi) - Dracula (1931). Okay. It's a classic. Good call.
  35. Dr. Szell (Laurence Olivier) - Marathon Man (1976). Who hasn't thought about this when we're at the dentist? I think Olivier should've done a nose job on Hoffman, instead of yanking out his teeth.
  36. J. J. Hunsecker (Burt Lancaster) - Sweet Smell Of Success (1957). If you're going to pick this character, why not take the boss in The Apartment (Fred MacMurray, who always played nice guys), who kept forcing Jack Lemmon into letting the office use his apartment for affairs, even with the woman (Shirley MacLaine) he loved.
  37. Graf Orlok (Max Schreck) - Nosferatu (1922). Were movies even around back then? Was this a talkie?
  38. Frank Booth (Dennis Hopper) - Blue Velvet (1986). Wow, this former San Diegan was creepy in this. What was he sniffing when he put that thing to his nose, before torturing Isabella Rosollini?
  39. Captain Vidal (Sergi López) - Pan's Labyrinth (2006). I never saw this, but the special effects looked great.
  40. Harry Lime (Orson Welles) - The Third Man (1949). I didn't see this. Orson Welles...a lot of talent wasted.
  41. Rico (Enrico Caesar Bandello) (Edward G. Robinson) - Little Caesar (1930). Before my time.
  42. Cruella De Vil (Betty Lou Gerson - voice) - One Hundred And One Dalmatians (1961). Oh. I guess they did pick this character.
  43. Joan Crawford (Faye Dunaway) - Mommie Dearest (1981). Ya gotta pick this, for the eyebrows alone. Oh yeah, and the wire hangers.
  44. Hans Gruber (Alan Rickman) - Die Hard (1988). This guy made the Top 10 on the list KGB read. He gets points just for having a German accent. That always makes a villian that much scarier.
  45. Tommy DeVito (Joe Pesci) - Goodfellas (1990). Ya gotta love this character. He kills Spider just because he doesn't bring him a drink fast enough. How annoying was it when everyone had to repeat the line "You find me funny"?
  46. Jack The Ripper (Laird Cregar) - The Lodger (1944). Wait a second. This is a real life character. I'm not sure that should count on a list like this.
  47. Tom Powers (James Cagney) - The Public Enemy (1931). Didn't see it.
  48. Regina Giddens (Bette Davis) - The Little Foxes (1941). See above.
  49. "Baby" Jane Hudson (Bette Davis) - What Ever Happened To Baby Jane? (1962). Good choice. Wow, a lot of Bette Davis.
  50. Tony Montana (Al Pacino) - Scarface (1983). The choice is okay, but this movie is really so overrated. And Pacino overacts.
  51. The Joker (Jack Nicholson) - Batman (1989). This Joker is great. It might be too campy for some. But it's a great villian. You have to love Nicholson, with that painted smile, saying "This town needs an enema," before pressing play on the boom box, to blare out a Prince song as he ruins paintings in a gallery.
  52. Headless Horseman "Hessian Horseman" (Christopher Walken) - Sleepy Hollow (1999). Geez, thinking about it, Walken could probably have a list of Top 5 on his own. He was a bad guy in a Bond movie. In Biloxi Blues, although it was a great Neil Simon comedy, he was very intense putting a gun to Broderick's head.
  53. Roger "Verbal" Kint (Kevin Spacey) - The Usual Suspects (1995). Why do they list him by this character name, and not Kaiser Souze? But yeah, he goes on the list. I never saw Se7en, but didn't he kill a bunch of people in that, too? And apparently, Brad Pitt never caught him at the end. He merely got his (spoiler alert), wifes head delivered to him in a box.
  54. Auric Goldfinger (Gert Frobe) - Goldfinger (1964). See comments in intro.
  55. Detective Alonzo Harris (Denzel Washington) - Training Day (2001). He won an Oscar for this. Remember, it's when Julia Roberts said she was happy with life. I thought he overacted, and the script was crap. There have been better dirty cops in film.
  56. Sergeant Barnes (Tom Berenger) - Platoon (1986). I saw this my senior year of high school. I thought it tried to hard to be Apocolypse Now, a much better film. With a much better villian (Marlon Brando, with shaved head).
  57. "Buffalo Bill" (Jame Gumb) (Ted Levine) - The Silence Of The Lambs (1991). He skinned people alive. He looked and sounded a lot like Joe Walsh. And, 12 words will explain why he deserves to be higher on the list: It puts the lotion in the basket or it gets the hose.
  58. Sheriff "Little Bill" Daggett (Gene Hackman) - Unforgiven (1992). This is the worst possible choice around. This character wasn't all that bad. Sure, he beat Morgan Freeman to death. But Freeman came to town to kill some people. And Hackman did what lawmen did back then. Their form of justice was a lot different. He was taken the guns from everyone that rode into town. Yes, he kicked Richard Harris around, and then a sick Clint Eastwood. But that's the way he did things. Sure, he wasn't Andy Griffith, but you can hardly call him a horrible villian for that. A bad sheriff, yeah.
  59. Colonel Walter E. Kurtz (Marlon Brando) - Apocalypse Now (1979). Switch his spot with Platoon. Maybe Brando deserves to be higher, too, for eating all the food that craft serves brought for the rest of the crew!
  60. Woo-Jin Lee (Ji-Tae Yu) - Oldboy (2003). I've never heard of this, but I'm sure he karate chopped a lot of people.
  61. Jason Voorhees (Richard Brooker) - Friday The 13th: Part 3 (1982). You can never look at a hockey mask the same.
  62. John Doe (Kevin Spacey) - Se7en (1995). This makes me wish I would've read the whole list before I made my comments previously.
  63. Stromboli (Charles Judels - voice) - Pinocchio (1940). I didn't read this story, or see the movie. Who is this character? Does he go at Pinocchio with sandpaper or something?
  64. Max Cady (Robert De Niro) - Cape Fear (1991). Okay, now this is odd. They're putting the same character on here, but played by different actors. Whatever. DeNiro had cool Hawaiian shirts (on a side note: If you're a 40 or older white guy, stop wearing Hawaiian shirts everywhere, they look goofy).
  65. Tony Camonte (Paul Muni) - Scarface (1932). Never saw the original. Did anyone else? I recently saw the 1960 Italian movie Mafioso. It was good.
  66. Frank (Henry Fonda) - Once Upon A Time In The West (1969). Famous western director Sergio Leon, nicely cast Fonda as the cold blooded hired killer. Great choice.
  67. Al Capone (Robert DeNiro) - The Untouchables (1987). You gotta love the baseball bat scene. I've seen a few funny parodies of it, too.
  68. Gaear Grimsrud (Peter Stormare) - Fargo (1996). You can always count on the Coen Brothers to get villians on the list. But, when you stick a person in a woodchipper, you assure yourself a spot on the list.
  69. Warden Samuel Norton (Bob Gunton) - The Shawshank Redemption (1994). Great choice. Evil wardens and cops are always good picks, because they have that power.
  70. Vincent Vega & Jules Winnfield (John Travolta/Samuel L. Jackson) - Pulp Fiction (1994). Not sure if these are good picks. After all, they are saying funny stuff in the movie, like why you wouldn't want to eat the pig in Green Acres, because it has a good personality. Wouldn't you consider the guy that rapes Ving Rhames a worse villian? Or Ving himself, who hires killers!
  71. Khan Noonien Singh (Ricardo Montalban) - Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan (1982). I only saw one Star Trek movie. I was 14.
  72. Heinrich Strasser (Conrad Veidt) - Casablanca (1942). Great movie, not sure about the villian choice, though. It's like taking one of the Nazis from Hogans Heroes.
  73. Commodus (Joaquin Phoenix) - Gladiator (2000). I really gained a lot of respect for Joaquins acting ability with this role. It was a great part. For him to play it subtle, and be so evil.
  74. Magua (Wes Studi) - The Last of the Mohicans (1992). Didn't see it.
  75. Gollum (Andy Serkis) - Lord Of The Rings: Return Of The King (2003). I never saw this trilogy, but all my friends insist I have to.
  76. Bruno Anthony (Robert Walker) - Strangers on a Train (1951)
  77. Booth (John Malkovich) - In The Line Of Fire (1993). Malkovich can play a great villian. It's a mix of two things. Being bald (just look at all the Bond villians), and the shape of his head. This classically trained stage actor gets a place, for coldly shooting a person that's admiring the plastic gun he made to assasinate the President.
  78. Chad (Aaron Eckhart) - In The Company Of Men (1997). Wow, what a great choice. Eckhart plays such an evil man in this movie. You have got to rent this. But, if you're a woman, you'll hate men after watching it. This guy is a womanizer, but worse, oh...I can't even describe what he does. This character should make the Top 20 of this list.
  79. Ghostface (Skeet Ulrich) - Scream (1996). I know nothing about this film.
  80. Bill The Butcher (Daniel Day Lewis) - Gangs Of New York (2002). Good choice, for the mustache alone. Probably one of the reasons he brought the mustache along (and the accent) to his next movie, There Will Be Blood.
  81. Patrick Bateman (Christian Bale) - American Psycho (2000). You can't put him on the list. He's too much of a pretty boy. And besides, at the end of the movie, you find out this was all in his head, and he didn't actually commit any of those crimes.
  82. Nino Brown (Wesley Snipes) - New Jack City (1991). I didn't see it. But keep Wesley on the list, for trying to avoid paying taxes.
  83. Idi Amin (Forest Whitaker) - The Last King of Scotland (2006). Again, it's a real life character. That's cheating. I mean, if someone plays Hitler, do they make the Top 10 of this list? By the way, who do we cast in that role?
  84. Norman Stanfield (Gary Oldman) - Leon (1994).
  85. Roy Batty (Rutger Hauer) - Blade Runner (1982). This is a great pick. Not sure why it's not farther up on the list. Killers that are mechanical, bring a scarier element. Because, you can't hurt them. You can't reason with them. His speech at the end is a thing of beauty.
  86. Howard Payne (Dennis Hopper) - Speed (1994). Hopper plays a good villian. He plays a good burn out. He's a good actor, period. The movie is a bit silly, but yeah, he's a good villian.
  87. Sergeant Hartman (R. Lee Ermey) - Full Metal Jacket (1987). Ermey is a genius. He went from being a real drill sergeant, to playing one in movies, and becoming an actor. Although, I think he's too over the top in this movie. Whether drill sergeants are really like this, isn't the point. It seemed unrealistic to me, which took me out of it.
  88. Peyton Flanders (Rebecca De Mornay) - The Hand That Rocks the Cradle (1992). Great villian. Babysitters that are evil. And especially one that picks on a nice, mentally handicapped character.
  89. Nicky Santoro (Joe Pesci) - Casino (1995). This should be taken off the list, just because Casino is the Las Vegas version of Goodfellas. What a rip off.
  90. Lex Luthor (Gene Hackman) - Superman (1978). I love this character. Hackman had played Popeye Doyle so well in French Connection, that this humorous take on Luthor was wonderful. When he is planning to blow up New Jersey, and his ditzy blonde assistant says, "But my parents live in Jersey." He gets this slight, Mona Lisa smile, as he shakes his head no. It's brilliant.
  91. Tyler Durden (Brad Pitt) - Fight Club (1999). Hmmm. Not sure about this pick. (spoiler alert). It's the split personality of Edward Norton. Sure, it's the evil side of him. He gets people to beat other people up. But, they enjoy doing it. He treats a woman badly. I dunno...in a list of villians, I'm not sure he belongs on the list, though.
  92. Mr. Blonde (Michael Madsen) - Reservoir Dogs (1992). Why isn't he higher up? He cuts off a guys ear. While he's dancing to "Stuck in the Middle with You." All through the movie, he's a jerk. And you never really know why. He just doesn't care. That, is the perfect villian. Someone that doesn't care about others. Put this character in the Top 10.
  93. White Witch (Tilda Swinton) - Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (2005). I'm 38. So, I didn't see this. Had I been in the theatre, Chris Hanson might have walked in and sat down next to me and offered up a cookie.
  94. Mr. Smith (Hugo Weaving) - The Matrix (1999). A good movie, but I barely remember this character, which means, he probably doesn't deserve to be on the list. I think he wore a black suit and dark sunglasses. Or was that Men in Black?
  95. Jake (Jean-Claude La Marre) - Fresh (1994). What...is...this?
  96. Daniel Plainview (Daniel Day-Lewis) - There Will Be Blood (2007). He really only killed a couple people. One, a person that lied to him about being his brother. The other, a religious leader that was a liar that swindled people out of money. I'm not justifying those murders. This guy was scum. Well, we're down far enough on the list. This is a good spot for him.
  97. Guy Woodhouse (John Cassavetes) - Rosemary's Baby (1968). Nice. You have to put someone on a list that gets Mia Farrow pregnant by Satan. Maybe we should put the person on the list that set her up with Woody Allen.
  98. Sweeney Todd (Johnny Depp) - Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (2007). Sure, he's a barber that sliced up your neck when you went in for a shave. But, he's singing, too. That means he shouldn't be on the list. I mean, would you put any of the Sharks or the Jets on this list? Or any of the gang members from Grease, if it was most intimidating gang members? No.
  99. Col. William Tavington (Jason Isaacs) - The Patriot (2000). Nope. Take him off.
  100. Scar (voice of Jeremy Irons) - The Lion King (1994). Enough with the cartoons.

Okay....name some villians this list forgot. You guys came thru on the list of comedians.

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On KGBs morning show they talked about the 10 best villians. I forgot who initially put out the list, but it was horribly done. The number one villian (drum roll)...well, I can't even spell it. Some character from Harry Potter. Lame.

Also on the list was Goldfinger. Again, lame pick. Goldfinger wasn't that bad. I mean, he almost did a Jesse Jackson and cut off Bonds manhood. But he didn't. And, you could golf with him. Sure, he wanted to kill everyone at Fort Knox, but he wanted their gold. If you're going to name a villian, pick his sidekick Odd Job (who in real life, won a silver medal in the Olympics for the shot put). In the movie, he'd decapitate people with his top hat. And, if you angered him, he'd crush golf balls. A mean dude, for sure.

When I really knew the list was bad, was when I heard Heath Ledger as The Joker was at #4. Now, this version of Batman (Dark Knight) isn't even out yet! How can a villian be on the list so soon?

I have no problem with them having current people like Javier Bardem from No Country. But Heath Ledger? To be honest, I have more nightmares about being attacked by the character he played in Brokeback Mountain.

So, I Googled to see if anyone else did a list of movie villians. And I found one. I'll print it below, and my comments to follow.

  1. Norman Bates (Anthony Perkins) - Psycho (1960). I don't think anyone would complain about that pick. Honorable mention goes to the violin player. Perkins plays a villian in an underrated film with Kathleen Turner called Crimes of Passion. Go find it.
  2. Dr. Hannibal Lecter (Anthony Hopkins) - The Silence Of The Lambs (1991). This is a great pick. The photo of him wearing the straps and mask across his face is so creepy. The way he's so intelligent and can get into your head. Before he literally gets into your head and eats your brain. But does anyone even remember Hopkins in Magic in 1980, playing the ventriliquist who kills people because his dummy tells him to? I know, it sounds like a Twilight Zone. But he's great in that. But as a kid, I was thinking...I can see you killing Burgess Meredith, but was it necessary to take out Ann-Margret?
  3. Darth Vader (David Prowse / James Earl Jones - voice) - The Empire Strikes Back (1980). I'm not sure why they listed Empire, instead of Star Wars. But yeah, great choice. That outfit, in all black, was great. The voice is classic. And, to hear the breathing. He could choke you without touching your neck, and could slice you up with his light saber.
  4. Nurse Ratched (Louise Fletcher) - One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest (1975). She has no business being on this list. Everyone remembers her as being worse than she is. Watch the movie again (I'm not talking about the book, which is also good). She is bothered by Nicholson coming in and being disruptive. She doesn't let him watch the World Series. But up until the end when she threatends to call one patients mother and rat him out, she really isn't all that horrible. So she gave Nicholson a labotomy...
  5. Amon Goeth (Ralph Fiennes) - Schindler's List (1993). Great choice. I remember he got an Oscar nomination. It was the first time many of us saw Ralph (which for some weird reason, is pronounced "Ray"). A great actor, who disappointed me in In Brouges.
  6. HAL 9000 (Douglas Rain - voice) - 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968). Siskel & Ebert once had the best fight, when they did a list of 10 worst villians. One claimed a computer can't be a villian. Oh yeah, Hal sure was a villian. You try getting locked out of your space ship, or hell, even your Buick, you'll think the car is worse than Christine.
  7. Hans Beckert (Peter Lorre) - M (1931). I was born in 1969. Not familiar with this.
  8. Mr. Potter (Lionel Barrymore) - It's A Wonderful Life (1946). Okay choice. Haven't seen the movie in 20 years, so I can't recall the character. I know, it's on every year. Does anyone know how far Drew's acting family tree goes back?
  9. Regan MacNeil/Satan (Linda Blair) - The Exorcist (1973). My stepdad would say Ronald Reagan was a worse villian. Yeah, this is a good pick. She said some mean things to the priest about his mom. One of the funniest things ever, was watching Richard Pryor do a parody of it on the first season of Saturday Night Live. Lorraine Newman told him, "Your mother sews socks that smell." He screamed, "Don't be talkin' 'bout my mama," before pounding her.
  10. The Queen (Lucille LaVerne - voice) - Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs (1937). Okay choice, but it's weird mixing villians that are from family movies, with killers like Hannibal the Cannibal.
  11. Michael Corleone (Al Pacino) - The Godfarther Part II (1974). I'm sure he'd be number one on the PETA list for the horse alone. But, if you think about it, he probably shouldn't be so high on the list. He only killed other mobsters and people that crossed the family.
  12. The Wicked Witch Of The West (Margaret Hamilton) - The Wizard of OZ (1939). Again, family movie. Sure, we were scared by this character as kids....
  13. Anton Chigurh (Javier Bardem) - No Country For Old Men (2007). An amazingly scarey villian. I'm not sure it was the most practical thing to carry around a heavy air gun/cattle prod thing. And, would people really stand there and let you place it on their forehead? And was anyone else bothered by seeing Woody in that? I was waiting for Carla to walk in and serve them drinks.
  14. Alex DeLarge (Malcolm McDowell) - A Clockwork Orange (1971). Nice choice. I thought the film was highly overrated, though.
  15. Annie Wilkes (Kathy Bates) - Misery (1990). This is a great movie villian. It's nice how you think about it later, and wonder if James Caan had played it differently, would she have done things differently.
  16. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Donald Pleasence) - You Only Live Twice (1967). I've seen too many Bond films, I can't even place him. Did he have a cat on his lap? Or was that Telly Savalas? Damn...now I'm thinking about Bond girls.
  17. Alex Forrest (Glenn Close) - Fatal Attraction (1987). Not a good choice. She was really just a villian to one character. A character that cheated on his wonderful wife. Not that it makes it right for her to boil the kids bunny. And kidnap the child. But still...I think a similar movie, Clint Eastwoods directorial debut "Play Misty For Me," had a worse villian. After all, she not only tortured Eastwood, but killed his maid, and tortured his girlfriend.
  18. Captain Bligh (Charles Laughton) - Mutiny On The Bounty (1935). A classic. Good choice, but I'd probably put it farther down on the list.
  19. Phyllis Dietrichson (Barbara Stanwyck) - Double Indemnity (1944). Nice. Billy Wilder is the best director in the history of film. But she really just suckered a guy. Kind of like Kathleen Turner did in Body Heat. That just makes her a smart sexy woman, involved with gullible guys. Devious yes, but villanious? On a list of the best? Maybe farther down.
  20. Max Cady (Robert Mitchum) - Cape Fear (1962). Mitchum was intense on screen. A great presence. Although the remake got bad reviews, I loved it. And DeNiro was awesome. When he bit a chunk out of that womans cheek...ouch! The finger sucking scene with a young Juliette Lewis was ad libbed by her (she would go on to play a great villian, with Woody Harrelson, in Natural Born Killers).
  21. Mrs. John Iselin (Angela Lansbury) - The Manchurian Candidate (1962). I saw parts of it when I was 12. I barely remember the film.
  22. Freddy Krueger (Robert Englund) - A Nightmare On Elm Street (1984). Good pick. If you get into horror films though, you take up a lot of the list. Will Jason be next? What about Mike Myers? No, not the comedic actor, but the mental patient from the Halloween series.
  23. Eve Harrington (Anne Baxter) - All About Eve (1950). Geez, I didn't remember this as so villanious. But I saw it as a teenager on regular TV. A fan is starstruck, and starts to take over Bette Davis' life.
  24. Terminator (Arnold Schwarzenegger) - The Terminator (1984). This is a great choice. The guy in the second one was a great villian, too. A guy on my high school basketball team liked to count the deaths in movies (he's probably a serial killer now). At the time this was released, it had the most. He loved the scene where a cop says, "Listen lady, we have 38 cops at this station, you're safe here." He said sometimes in scenes like that he just estimates. That time, he wrote the number straight down on his note pad.
  25. Noah Cross (John Huston) - Chinatown (1974). Okay, well, like Goldfinger, he's the main bad guy. The top dog. But isn't Roman Polanski more eerie? He's the creepy little dude that finds Nicholson nosing around, sticks a knife in his nose and slices it up, which leaves him bandaged the rest of the film.
  26. Jack Torrance (Jack Nicholson) - The Shining (1980). Here's Jaaaack again. He ad-libbed that line. I can't believe Stephen King wasn't happy with this movie. And director Stanley Kubrick, who did all his own trailers/commercials, was told he couldn't show the elevator with blood coming out of it. He convinced the censors it was supposed to be red wine from a ballroom party, not blood. They let it slide.
  27. Arthur "Cody" Jarrett (James Cagney) - White Heat (1949). Never saw it.
  28. Gordon Gekko (Michael Douglas) - Wall Street (1987). Good call. I really like this pick. He didn't kill anyone, but boy, he screwed people over financially. And he didn't care what it did to their lives, families, jobs, etc.
  29. Maleficent (Eleanor Audley - voice) - Sleeping Beauty (1959). If they are picking people like this, where is Cruella Da Ville?
  30. Lil' Dice (aka Lil' Ze) (Leandro Firmino) - City of God (2002). Can someone tell me who this is? How is it there's a current movie that has a villian in the Top 30, and I have no clue what this movie even is?
  31. Reverend Harry Powell (Robert Mitchum) - The Night Of The Hunter (1955). Not familiar with it.
  32. Mrs. Danvers (Judith Anderson) - Rebecca (1940). I know it's a classic, just can't remember enough about it.
  33. Senator Palpatine (Ian McDiarmid) - Star Wars III: Revenge Of The Sith (2005). Geez...with a movie that isn't that great, not sure the villian should be this high on the list.
  34. Count Dracula (Bela Lugosi) - Dracula (1931). Okay. It's a classic. Good call.
  35. Dr. Szell (Laurence Olivier) - Marathon Man (1976). Who hasn't thought about this when we're at the dentist? I think Olivier should've done a nose job on Hoffman, instead of yanking out his teeth.
  36. J. J. Hunsecker (Burt Lancaster) - Sweet Smell Of Success (1957). If you're going to pick this character, why not take the boss in The Apartment (Fred MacMurray, who always played nice guys), who kept forcing Jack Lemmon into letting the office use his apartment for affairs, even with the woman (Shirley MacLaine) he loved.
  37. Graf Orlok (Max Schreck) - Nosferatu (1922). Were movies even around back then? Was this a talkie?
  38. Frank Booth (Dennis Hopper) - Blue Velvet (1986). Wow, this former San Diegan was creepy in this. What was he sniffing when he put that thing to his nose, before torturing Isabella Rosollini?
  39. Captain Vidal (Sergi López) - Pan's Labyrinth (2006). I never saw this, but the special effects looked great.
  40. Harry Lime (Orson Welles) - The Third Man (1949). I didn't see this. Orson Welles...a lot of talent wasted.
  41. Rico (Enrico Caesar Bandello) (Edward G. Robinson) - Little Caesar (1930). Before my time.
  42. Cruella De Vil (Betty Lou Gerson - voice) - One Hundred And One Dalmatians (1961). Oh. I guess they did pick this character.
  43. Joan Crawford (Faye Dunaway) - Mommie Dearest (1981). Ya gotta pick this, for the eyebrows alone. Oh yeah, and the wire hangers.
  44. Hans Gruber (Alan Rickman) - Die Hard (1988). This guy made the Top 10 on the list KGB read. He gets points just for having a German accent. That always makes a villian that much scarier.
  45. Tommy DeVito (Joe Pesci) - Goodfellas (1990). Ya gotta love this character. He kills Spider just because he doesn't bring him a drink fast enough. How annoying was it when everyone had to repeat the line "You find me funny"?
  46. Jack The Ripper (Laird Cregar) - The Lodger (1944). Wait a second. This is a real life character. I'm not sure that should count on a list like this.
  47. Tom Powers (James Cagney) - The Public Enemy (1931). Didn't see it.
  48. Regina Giddens (Bette Davis) - The Little Foxes (1941). See above.
  49. "Baby" Jane Hudson (Bette Davis) - What Ever Happened To Baby Jane? (1962). Good choice. Wow, a lot of Bette Davis.
  50. Tony Montana (Al Pacino) - Scarface (1983). The choice is okay, but this movie is really so overrated. And Pacino overacts.
  51. The Joker (Jack Nicholson) - Batman (1989). This Joker is great. It might be too campy for some. But it's a great villian. You have to love Nicholson, with that painted smile, saying "This town needs an enema," before pressing play on the boom box, to blare out a Prince song as he ruins paintings in a gallery.
  52. Headless Horseman "Hessian Horseman" (Christopher Walken) - Sleepy Hollow (1999). Geez, thinking about it, Walken could probably have a list of Top 5 on his own. He was a bad guy in a Bond movie. In Biloxi Blues, although it was a great Neil Simon comedy, he was very intense putting a gun to Broderick's head.
  53. Roger "Verbal" Kint (Kevin Spacey) - The Usual Suspects (1995). Why do they list him by this character name, and not Kaiser Souze? But yeah, he goes on the list. I never saw Se7en, but didn't he kill a bunch of people in that, too? And apparently, Brad Pitt never caught him at the end. He merely got his (spoiler alert), wifes head delivered to him in a box.
  54. Auric Goldfinger (Gert Frobe) - Goldfinger (1964). See comments in intro.
  55. Detective Alonzo Harris (Denzel Washington) - Training Day (2001). He won an Oscar for this. Remember, it's when Julia Roberts said she was happy with life. I thought he overacted, and the script was crap. There have been better dirty cops in film.
  56. Sergeant Barnes (Tom Berenger) - Platoon (1986). I saw this my senior year of high school. I thought it tried to hard to be Apocolypse Now, a much better film. With a much better villian (Marlon Brando, with shaved head).
  57. "Buffalo Bill" (Jame Gumb) (Ted Levine) - The Silence Of The Lambs (1991). He skinned people alive. He looked and sounded a lot like Joe Walsh. And, 12 words will explain why he deserves to be higher on the list: It puts the lotion in the basket or it gets the hose.
  58. Sheriff "Little Bill" Daggett (Gene Hackman) - Unforgiven (1992). This is the worst possible choice around. This character wasn't all that bad. Sure, he beat Morgan Freeman to death. But Freeman came to town to kill some people. And Hackman did what lawmen did back then. Their form of justice was a lot different. He was taken the guns from everyone that rode into town. Yes, he kicked Richard Harris around, and then a sick Clint Eastwood. But that's the way he did things. Sure, he wasn't Andy Griffith, but you can hardly call him a horrible villian for that. A bad sheriff, yeah.
  59. Colonel Walter E. Kurtz (Marlon Brando) - Apocalypse Now (1979). Switch his spot with Platoon. Maybe Brando deserves to be higher, too, for eating all the food that craft serves brought for the rest of the crew!
  60. Woo-Jin Lee (Ji-Tae Yu) - Oldboy (2003). I've never heard of this, but I'm sure he karate chopped a lot of people.
  61. Jason Voorhees (Richard Brooker) - Friday The 13th: Part 3 (1982). You can never look at a hockey mask the same.
  62. John Doe (Kevin Spacey) - Se7en (1995). This makes me wish I would've read the whole list before I made my comments previously.
  63. Stromboli (Charles Judels - voice) - Pinocchio (1940). I didn't read this story, or see the movie. Who is this character? Does he go at Pinocchio with sandpaper or something?
  64. Max Cady (Robert De Niro) - Cape Fear (1991). Okay, now this is odd. They're putting the same character on here, but played by different actors. Whatever. DeNiro had cool Hawaiian shirts (on a side note: If you're a 40 or older white guy, stop wearing Hawaiian shirts everywhere, they look goofy).
  65. Tony Camonte (Paul Muni) - Scarface (1932). Never saw the original. Did anyone else? I recently saw the 1960 Italian movie Mafioso. It was good.
  66. Frank (Henry Fonda) - Once Upon A Time In The West (1969). Famous western director Sergio Leon, nicely cast Fonda as the cold blooded hired killer. Great choice.
  67. Al Capone (Robert DeNiro) - The Untouchables (1987). You gotta love the baseball bat scene. I've seen a few funny parodies of it, too.
  68. Gaear Grimsrud (Peter Stormare) - Fargo (1996). You can always count on the Coen Brothers to get villians on the list. But, when you stick a person in a woodchipper, you assure yourself a spot on the list.
  69. Warden Samuel Norton (Bob Gunton) - The Shawshank Redemption (1994). Great choice. Evil wardens and cops are always good picks, because they have that power.
  70. Vincent Vega & Jules Winnfield (John Travolta/Samuel L. Jackson) - Pulp Fiction (1994). Not sure if these are good picks. After all, they are saying funny stuff in the movie, like why you wouldn't want to eat the pig in Green Acres, because it has a good personality. Wouldn't you consider the guy that rapes Ving Rhames a worse villian? Or Ving himself, who hires killers!
  71. Khan Noonien Singh (Ricardo Montalban) - Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan (1982). I only saw one Star Trek movie. I was 14.
  72. Heinrich Strasser (Conrad Veidt) - Casablanca (1942). Great movie, not sure about the villian choice, though. It's like taking one of the Nazis from Hogans Heroes.
  73. Commodus (Joaquin Phoenix) - Gladiator (2000). I really gained a lot of respect for Joaquins acting ability with this role. It was a great part. For him to play it subtle, and be so evil.
  74. Magua (Wes Studi) - The Last of the Mohicans (1992). Didn't see it.
  75. Gollum (Andy Serkis) - Lord Of The Rings: Return Of The King (2003). I never saw this trilogy, but all my friends insist I have to.
  76. Bruno Anthony (Robert Walker) - Strangers on a Train (1951)
  77. Booth (John Malkovich) - In The Line Of Fire (1993). Malkovich can play a great villian. It's a mix of two things. Being bald (just look at all the Bond villians), and the shape of his head. This classically trained stage actor gets a place, for coldly shooting a person that's admiring the plastic gun he made to assasinate the President.
  78. Chad (Aaron Eckhart) - In The Company Of Men (1997). Wow, what a great choice. Eckhart plays such an evil man in this movie. You have got to rent this. But, if you're a woman, you'll hate men after watching it. This guy is a womanizer, but worse, oh...I can't even describe what he does. This character should make the Top 20 of this list.
  79. Ghostface (Skeet Ulrich) - Scream (1996). I know nothing about this film.
  80. Bill The Butcher (Daniel Day Lewis) - Gangs Of New York (2002). Good choice, for the mustache alone. Probably one of the reasons he brought the mustache along (and the accent) to his next movie, There Will Be Blood.
  81. Patrick Bateman (Christian Bale) - American Psycho (2000). You can't put him on the list. He's too much of a pretty boy. And besides, at the end of the movie, you find out this was all in his head, and he didn't actually commit any of those crimes.
  82. Nino Brown (Wesley Snipes) - New Jack City (1991). I didn't see it. But keep Wesley on the list, for trying to avoid paying taxes.
  83. Idi Amin (Forest Whitaker) - The Last King of Scotland (2006). Again, it's a real life character. That's cheating. I mean, if someone plays Hitler, do they make the Top 10 of this list? By the way, who do we cast in that role?
  84. Norman Stanfield (Gary Oldman) - Leon (1994).
  85. Roy Batty (Rutger Hauer) - Blade Runner (1982). This is a great pick. Not sure why it's not farther up on the list. Killers that are mechanical, bring a scarier element. Because, you can't hurt them. You can't reason with them. His speech at the end is a thing of beauty.
  86. Howard Payne (Dennis Hopper) - Speed (1994). Hopper plays a good villian. He plays a good burn out. He's a good actor, period. The movie is a bit silly, but yeah, he's a good villian.
  87. Sergeant Hartman (R. Lee Ermey) - Full Metal Jacket (1987). Ermey is a genius. He went from being a real drill sergeant, to playing one in movies, and becoming an actor. Although, I think he's too over the top in this movie. Whether drill sergeants are really like this, isn't the point. It seemed unrealistic to me, which took me out of it.
  88. Peyton Flanders (Rebecca De Mornay) - The Hand That Rocks the Cradle (1992). Great villian. Babysitters that are evil. And especially one that picks on a nice, mentally handicapped character.
  89. Nicky Santoro (Joe Pesci) - Casino (1995). This should be taken off the list, just because Casino is the Las Vegas version of Goodfellas. What a rip off.
  90. Lex Luthor (Gene Hackman) - Superman (1978). I love this character. Hackman had played Popeye Doyle so well in French Connection, that this humorous take on Luthor was wonderful. When he is planning to blow up New Jersey, and his ditzy blonde assistant says, "But my parents live in Jersey." He gets this slight, Mona Lisa smile, as he shakes his head no. It's brilliant.
  91. Tyler Durden (Brad Pitt) - Fight Club (1999). Hmmm. Not sure about this pick. (spoiler alert). It's the split personality of Edward Norton. Sure, it's the evil side of him. He gets people to beat other people up. But, they enjoy doing it. He treats a woman badly. I dunno...in a list of villians, I'm not sure he belongs on the list, though.
  92. Mr. Blonde (Michael Madsen) - Reservoir Dogs (1992). Why isn't he higher up? He cuts off a guys ear. While he's dancing to "Stuck in the Middle with You." All through the movie, he's a jerk. And you never really know why. He just doesn't care. That, is the perfect villian. Someone that doesn't care about others. Put this character in the Top 10.
  93. White Witch (Tilda Swinton) - Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (2005). I'm 38. So, I didn't see this. Had I been in the theatre, Chris Hanson might have walked in and sat down next to me and offered up a cookie.
  94. Mr. Smith (Hugo Weaving) - The Matrix (1999). A good movie, but I barely remember this character, which means, he probably doesn't deserve to be on the list. I think he wore a black suit and dark sunglasses. Or was that Men in Black?
  95. Jake (Jean-Claude La Marre) - Fresh (1994). What...is...this?
  96. Daniel Plainview (Daniel Day-Lewis) - There Will Be Blood (2007). He really only killed a couple people. One, a person that lied to him about being his brother. The other, a religious leader that was a liar that swindled people out of money. I'm not justifying those murders. This guy was scum. Well, we're down far enough on the list. This is a good spot for him.
  97. Guy Woodhouse (John Cassavetes) - Rosemary's Baby (1968). Nice. You have to put someone on a list that gets Mia Farrow pregnant by Satan. Maybe we should put the person on the list that set her up with Woody Allen.
  98. Sweeney Todd (Johnny Depp) - Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (2007). Sure, he's a barber that sliced up your neck when you went in for a shave. But, he's singing, too. That means he shouldn't be on the list. I mean, would you put any of the Sharks or the Jets on this list? Or any of the gang members from Grease, if it was most intimidating gang members? No.
  99. Col. William Tavington (Jason Isaacs) - The Patriot (2000). Nope. Take him off.
  100. Scar (voice of Jeremy Irons) - The Lion King (1994). Enough with the cartoons.

Okay....name some villians this list forgot. You guys came thru on the list of comedians.

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Well, even if King Kong is a sweat creature, when in his own environment, and it was the big bad humans that brought him to New York to exploit him....well, once he's on the loose, he's still a menace to society. The old lady walking to the bakery, still has one crazy, hairy beast on her hands. Or, maybe, she ends up in his hands, whatever.

Dracula might be going on instinct. But, that instinct is sucking the blood out of you. Therefore, villianous.

July 20, 2008

Well I can't help having a soft spot for the less fortunate.

July 20, 2008

Oh man, you guys are so lame. I spent all that time writing these villians, and no responses? I was even playing racquetball tonight, and things popped in my head. Like...how could I forget Ben Kingsley in Sexy Beast. An overrated movie, but he was amazing as the villian. And The Sting, one of my all-time favorite films, with two of my all-time favorite actors: Paul Newman and Robert Shaw (remember him from Jaws?). He was the best villian in Sting. From his limp and accent, to his bumping everyone off.

July 18, 2008

Now how did I just KNOW you were going to go off about Heath Ledger when I saw the title of this blog?

(Sir) Anthony Hopkins is at #2. I saw an interview with Gary Oldman where he said he thought Ledger was "better than Tony in Silence of the Lambs." You do the math. Anyway, the movie opens today, so you can go find out if you want.

Actually, everyone that came to mind for me is on the list, except Kingsley, who occurred to me as well.

You've never seen Nosferatu? Scared the crap out of everybody in 1922. A film school must see.

July 18, 2008

Yeah...the age thing...whatever.

"When I really knew the list was bad, was when I heard Heath Ledger as The Joker was at #4. Now, this version of Batman (Dark Knight) isn't even out yet! How can a villian be on the list so soon?

I have no problem with them having current people like Javier Bardem from No Country. But Heath Ledger? To be honest, I have more nightmares about being attacked by the character he played in Brokeback Mountain."

My rather obvious point was, did you actually see "The Dark Knight," before your rather negative comments about Ledger? Or, have you seen it yet?

As for Gary Oldman, I think he's a terrific actor, I respect his opinion, and I don't think he'd be handing out praise quite THAT high unless he genuinely felt it was deserved.

Speaking of Oldman, he starred as Dracula himself once upon a time, in Bram Stoker's Dracula. Not a 'great' film, but he was pretty creepy, floating around as the Count. And it did garner a number of award nominations.

I'm also surprised that with all the comments about Nosferatu & the remake, that no one's mentioned "Shadow of the Vampire," starring Willem Dafoe, who's ALWAYS creepy. He's creepy just walking down the street. He's creepy in McDonald's, and he's creepy brushing his teeth after his Big Mac. Just. Plain. Creepy. AND, Dafoe was nominated for an Oscar for that film.

Anyway, I haven't seen Dark Knight yet myself. But I'll bet Heath is every bit as good as the buzz. Oh, and forget Brokeback (great though it was). Ledger's best previous work? Monster's Ball, 2001.

July 18, 2008

Nah, those pilots were told to shoot down a defenceless primate. A Vampire is like a cat, he cannot help but prey on humans for blood just as a cat needs the nutrient taurine found only in animal fat. Vamps are driven by need and instinct, they are obligate carnivores if you like. If you look at Kong in detail, you realise he is never the villain. To take a free species out of it's natural habitat and bend it to your will is just plain cruel. Carl Denham was the main bad guy in the film along with everyone else who contributed to the poor creature's downfall.

July 19, 2008

Josh, I've missed opportunities to see recent Herzog works such as "Grizzly Man". I've always been a fan of his work. "Aguirre, Wrath of God" and "Fitzcarraldo", both older films, have always been among my favorite films ever.

I may have to break down and watch his more recent works on DVD. Except for the Ken, it's difficult to find a house screening Herzog's films if you don't catch them when they first come out.

fifibutton, I agree that King Kong was not meant to be a villain. He was more like a tragic hero, a victim of modern man's greed for fame and money. His was also a cautionary tale about disturbing the natural order of things -- such as taking the prime primate out of his habitat to display him in the concrete jungle.

What you mention about vampires is exactly the aspect that Herzog and Kinski exploit in their portrayal of Nosferatu. The man was undoubtedly creepy and evil, but he was also a slave to his need for blood. In that respect, he was as weak as the rats he lorded over.

July 19, 2008

You're older than I realized, antigeekess.

Well, Gary Oldman saying that doesn't mean much, since he's in the Dark Knight.

I'm not sure I get your point, on my comments on Ledger.

July 18, 2008

I liked Andy Robinson, who played "Scorpio" in the 1971 Don Siegel film "Dirty Harry". He was an insane blend of homicidal coward and sadomasochist. I would say he deserves honorable mention in this list.

Also, Klaus Kinski was a very creepy Nosferatu in the 1979 Werner Herzog remake. He interpreted the character in very complex way, as both a weak victim of his circumstances and a vicious, homicidal ghoul.

In my college years I attended a double screening that featured the both the 1922 silent original and the Herzog remake. It made for a very interesting comparison in style, approach and use of the technology available to the producers at their respective times.

July 18, 2008

Nice list, can't argue with Mitchum although I'd also nominate him for Night of the Hunter. Bela Lugosi is a definate no. Dracula isn't really a villain, just a product of his species. Nosferatu on the other hand exudes a truly evil air. Baby Jane is a good choice as is Bates but the ultimate and evil villains for me would have to be Conrad Veidt's (also see him as a nazi in Casablanca) turn as Jaffar in Theif of Bhagdad, Vincent Price as Edward Lionheart in Theatre of Blood and the pilots who shot down poor old King Kong off the Empire State Building in 1933.

July 18, 2008

OOh definatly see LOTR but read the book first. As for Addie, no one can play him better than Bruno Ganz who was also a rather villainous Johnathan Harker in Herzog's Nosferatu. It would be interesting to see both Stalin and Mao portrayed on the big screen, they are right up there with Hitler when it comes to villains.

July 18, 2008

fifibutton raises an interesting point.

Most if not all of the villains on the list are fictitious characters. There have been many excellent film biographies documenting the atrocities committed by real-life villains such as Rasputin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Charles Manson, among too many others to list.

Perhaps the folks that published the list Josh quoted in his post limited themselves to works of fiction, or perhaps they just wanted to avoid getting political.

The sad thing to consider is that real people are often just as heinous and villainous as fictitious characters, if not more so.

July 18, 2008

Brokeback Mountain was perhaps the most overrated movie in film history. Great cinematography. That's about it. Crappy story, good acting, bad screenplay, lame score, etc.

WT....yeah, Dirty Harry. Good call. It actually ruined it for me, when Eastwood then had those campy "villians" in later movies as I got a little older. Films like "Every Which Way But Loose," and the Black Widows motorcycle gang. Hardly intimidating, after you saw the guys in Dirty Harry.

Have you seen any of Herzogs more recent films?

Fifi: Sure, dracula may have been a product of his species, but still.

Haven't seen the other movies you mentioned. Oh, except for King Kong (don't bother on the Jack Black remake). But, regarding those pilots........aren't they just a product of their species???

July 19, 2008

King Kong? A "sweat" creature? Are you filming Kong Back Mountain? Anyway, Man is the villain in King Kong. The ape was just being himself. He was humongous and kidnapped, so the environment suffered for it.

Scorpius from the SciFi series, Farscape.

That creature from the remake of "The Thing" that made the scientists break down and turn upon each other.

Nosferatu was silent, and it's silence really cranks up the suspense. You can rent it. I own it, but I could never tolerate your smuggery in my home.

If you want to include real-life characters, then you can talk about anybody that has mass-murdered, tortured, done scientific experiments upon, lied about a need for war to avoid the need to justify his actions or just exterminated people. Individuals that steal are looked upon as much more evil than corporations that take their tax breaks under the agreement that they will remain in a business in a town that needs it for survival, only to relocate out of the country the following year, leaving a financial husk.

We should limit this to fictitious characters. Real people are too evil.

July 20, 2008

I saw the latest Batman...Dark Knight. Heath Ledger was a great villian as the Joker. I just thought it was to soon to put him on the all-time greatest list, before the movie had even been released.

July 28, 2008

Hans Beckert (Peter Lorre) - M (1931). I saw this film in San Francisco when the Castro ran it, roughly ten years back. The film was shot in both German and English, to allow more people to see it without locking on the subtitles and to look better than dubbing. Great performance by Lorre, and an interesting look at his persuers (parents who want justice, and underworld bosses who want the heat off).

July 28, 2008

Not familiar with the movie. If I got Netflix, it would be on my que.

It's surprisingly when a movie that old can pack a punch. I remember seeing City Lights 15 years ago, and being surprised I was blown away by it. A movie from the 30s shouldn't do that!

Aug. 4, 2008

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