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Okay Breaking Bad fans, I’m going on record with the belief that Walter White froze to death in that car and the rest of the finale was his dying fantasy. My evidence begins with the keys magically falling from the visor. Then tapping the window to knock the snow off and drive away – I grew up in snowstorms, and it takes awhile to de-ice a snowbound car window. Plus, how did he drive to the cabin to get his money with cop lights already all around him before the car even starts?

Never mind that the road to the cabin was covered in knee-deep snow when Walt walked TO town, without even tire tracks to help get a car back to, and away from, the cabin...

Then, despite his infamy and face all over TV, he manages to drive cross country and pop up all over his town without getting seen – he even gets into his wife’s place with cops out front (where he gets to have magically convenient and perfect “closure” with Skylar), and he sits down for a chat in a busy public restaurant full of people who should know and recognize him (but don’t).

In the restaurant, how and when exactly did he get the poison into Lydia’s SEALED tea-sweetener packet?

And the poison vial is still behind the power outlet cover in his old home, even tho the house is covered in graffiti and occupied by kids and vandals – in reality, no abandoned house would still HAVE outlet covers, as the place would be stripped of all copper wire. Now to the Gray Matter home – no security, no hidden alarm? How’d Walt find Skinny Pete and Badger -- turning them into temporary superheroes! - without Jesse around?


Then to the nazi compound – as far as we know, Walt’s never been there. But he knows where it is and rigs up his car with the gun to fire it in a specific direction, not even knowing if there’s a parking spot close to where he’ll find the Nazis. AND he manages to park in the exact spot, at the exact angle, to go thru with his plan. And why would the Nazis even let him in, when they already knew they weren’t interested in his “offer”?

The nazis certainly knew all about Walt's scientific genius - remember how awestruck they were by Todd's account of the Great Train Robbery? And yet they let Walter in, let him park a few feet from their clubhouse, and don't even search the car?! AND all they take from Walt is his keychain and wallet, even tho this is a guy who McGyvered the nursing home bomb that eventually made the nazis kings of the local drug trade? AND they didn't tie Walt up, AND they let him stand around a few feet from the rigged keychain that controlled the car gun (which Walt managed to magically grab off the table without anyone noticing).

AND why would the head nazi drag Jesse in, just to “prove” Jesse was a captive rather than a partner (and how would Walt know the latter isn’t actually the case)??

Finally, Walt manages to save Jesse and kill everyone but Todd, who Jesse gets to kill (using the same choke-em with the restraint chain method WALT used to kill that gangster chained in the basement in season 1! Walt’s trick, not Jesse’s). And what about Todd’s final words being “Gee Mr. White,” looking out at at the car gun in awe, as if about to tell Walt what a genius he is instead of screaming “You killed my uncle!”

And ALL the Nazis were in the room with Walt and Jesse?! Not a single guard out front, despite the way their tight security nailed Jesse trying to escape seconds after the escape began in the previous episode? Not a single nazi guard to shoot at Jesse as he drives off laughing (in what car? With whose keys that he instantly found? With no cops to stop him from fleeing a crime scene where machine guns have been going off?! Sounds more like Walt’s fantasy to me, “saving” Jesse…)

And that final camera angle rising up overhead and looking down at Walt spread out and dying a “hero” who saved Jesse and the world from an evil even worse than his own…the shot is framed by overhead architecture that sure as hell looks like the outline of a car, with Walt reclined in the seat.

The car Walt died in during the first five minutes of the final episode…which is a lot more “real” than anything that happened after that.

We all really wanted Walt to find redemption, and that all the "real" bad guys would pay the ultimate price. But that never really happens in the "real" world that every previous BB episode took place in. Not so neatly and perfectly, with all the loose threads conveniently tied up in 62 minutes, in such a way as to provide a kind of redemption that NOBODY ON THE SHOW BESIDES WALT THOUGHT HE DESERVED!

Let's also look at the closing song, "Baby Blue" by Badfinger (initial BB, heh heh) - just check out the lyrics: "Guess I got what I deserved, kept you waiting for too long, my love..."

Walt's dying thoughts about Skylar. In his fantasy, everybody EXCEPT him got what they deserved. And Skylar wasn't kept waiting...not in his fantasy, anyway...

Last but not at all least, did you watch Talking Bad after the show wrapped? Catch the part where creator (and final episode scripter) Gilligan mentioned his love of Rod Serling's Twilight Zone and how that show inspired him?

NOW go read the plot synopsis of the Zone episode "Occurance at Owl Creek Bridge," based on an Ambrose Bierce story about a guy who - by some miracle - drops out of a hangman's noose and escapes his captors in a wild wilderness run that leads to reunions with loved ones and ultimate self-redemption. But then viewers find out in the final seconds of the episode that he's still hanging from the neck and the whole "escape" was his dying fantasy.

Sound familiar??????


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TimMeese Sept. 30, 2013 @ 11:39 p.m.

Having just watched the encore of the final episode of Breaking Bad, although I don't totally agree with all of Sanford's conclusions, I do think that he might be on to something. If you watch the final episode with this in mind, it is clear that there are some unusual and unexplained situations that occur. It would be great if Vince Gilligan came out and said whether or not if Sanford's conclusions are any where close to being correct. At any event, the final episode was sort of a "let down" , as I thought there would be more involved with Walt taking care of his final business. Wished there was more. !!!


Jay Allen Sanford Sept. 30, 2013 @ 11:54 p.m.

I also noticed that everything that happens after the snowcar seems to be a story told from Walt's POV. This is again unlike the rest of the series, where we often saw events that Walt had no knowledge of or interaction with --


lattenjoe Oct. 1, 2013 @ 12:26 p.m.

I loved the "Occurance at Owl Creek Bridge" reference, but what nobody seems to have mentioned thus far is that the title of the episode "Felina", (while an anagram for "Finale") was an obvious reference to the muse in the Marty Robins song "El Paso" which Walt plays in that car as this fantasy develops. Through the story of the song, The main character is in love with Wicked Felina from Rosie's Cantina and murders another cowboy that had been vying for her affections in a jealous rage . The song goes on to see our hero fleeing across the land with a posse on his trail... but he escapes. However, his love is so strong for this Mexican maiden that he must return to El Paso. He "feels the bullet go deep in his side" as he makes it to Rosie's backdoor and with one final kiss to his beloved, (the bloody handprint on the meth lab condenser) he says goodbye and dies... The verse in the song that Walt hears as he starts the car miraculously, are the moments when the hero decides to go riding back to certain death... but it cuts to the title sequence right as he's about to reveal where he is "on the hill overlooking ("El Paso")... possibly another subtle reference to where Walt really is... staring into the abyss...


Jay Allen Sanford Oct. 1, 2013 @ 7:58 p.m.

"...the title of the episode 'Felina,' (while an anagram for 'Finale') was an obvious reference to the muse in the Marty Robins song 'El Paso' which Walt plays in that car as this fantasy develops...He 'feels the bullet go deep in his side' as he makes it to Rosie's backdoor and with one final kiss to his beloved, (the bloody handprint on the meth lab condenser) he says goodbye and dies."

Very nice, I was giving more weight to the significance of the Badfinger lyrics during the closing moments, and completely overlooked this telling cue -- I like your read on this!


Jay Allen Sanford Jan. 1, 2014 @ 10:52 a.m.

Lattenjoe pointed out "The verse in the song that Walt hears as he starts the car miraculously, are the moments when the hero decides to go riding back to certain death... but it cuts to the title sequence right as he's about to reveal where he is "on the hill overlooking ("El Paso")... possibly another subtle reference to where Walt really is... staring into the abyss." VERY observant! I noticed that in this week's rebroadcast, how the lyrics cut of abruptly, almost clumsily, right before the words about getting to El Paso. More proof that Walt never GOT to El Paso...


TimMeese Oct. 1, 2013 @ 7:34 p.m.

Obviously, we all believe that there was a more "psychological' aspect to the final episode and what occurred with Walt. I to had picked up on the Marty Robins song "El Paso", trying to remember the words and story to the song. I could be "reaching for straws" here, but I also thought that when Walt encountered the other individuals on his travel from New Hampshire to New Mexico, they all seemed slightly "different" in appearance. This was particularly true when he met up with Badger and Skinny Pete, along with his encounter with Skylar, who seemed much different then being only a year older. Additionally, the scene in which Marie is shown telephoning Skylar, she seemed almost unrecognizable. Finally, Jessie seemed to be different in some way also, as you see him driving off in the El Camino. Maybe we are all trying to read more into the final episode and Walt's demise, but I am sure that Vince Gilligan had that in mind when he wrote the final episode.


Jay Allen Sanford Oct. 1, 2013 @ 7:52 p.m.

"...when Walt encountered the other individuals on his travel from New Hampshire to New Mexico, they all seemed slightly 'different' in appearance. This was particularly true when he met up with Badger and Skinny Pete, along with his encounter with Skylar..."

Very astute! Note that Skylar is also still smoking a ciggie when we last see her, smoke wafting around her like the series intro slate - before, she only smoked when so stressed out that she was seconds away from breaking wide open. Why would she still be smoking, in her new home even (using one of Walt's periodic table coffee cups as an ashtray, if memory serves), with Walt long gone and a new crime-free life apparently underway as a dispatch operator (according to Robert Forster's cabin-report)? IMHO, Walt couldn't help but imagine her still smoking, a meth-like vice he could only allow her to give up (in his mind) AFTER he speaks his magic words ("I did it for ME..."), finally freeing her from his terrible influences.

Badger and Skinny Pete are transformed in the last ep into almost exactly the same kind of black-ops superheroes that Jesse used to draw them as in his comic book sketchbooks. One of the first times Walt seems to credit Jesse with being more than just the dumbass who calls a barn a "cow house" is when he flips thru Jesse's sketchbook, smiling and shaking his head. Jesse not only has a hidden talent, but he seems to secretly want to be the GOOD guy, at least in his cartoon fantasies.

So it goes to follow that Walt's own comic book-style finale would cast the duo as his own handpicked Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.


alex87 Oct. 2, 2013 @ 4:40 a.m.

Haha this would have been a cool alternate universe ending but 1. it doesn't make sense for what the show actually is 2. you got many things wrong. First off this is one of the rare reviews I've read that thinks Walt redeemed himself when in reality he did maybe 1/10000th of that. His wife didn't even touch him let alone hug him goodbye, his farewell to his son was silently watching him from across a yard. Yeah he saved Jesse but it wasn't his intention up until the moment he saw his condition in the compound, that's what Vince Gilligan said as well (adding that they took The Searchers as an inspiration for the scene). There actually WAS a guard outside the Nazi compound? He died when the gun started shooting? Maybe you missed that. Another thing is the only place Walt was out in public under the risk of getting recognized was the cafe, and he kept his head down and stayed there for approx. 2 minutes. You're saying that it's too unbelievable that a guy who rigged a wheelchair to explode a bomb inside a nursing home couldn't fill a pack of stevia with poison and reseal it beforehand?

Last but not least, the final song's lyrics did not refer to Walt's love for Skyler. Vince Gilligan said it on Talking Bad as well. Walt's 'love' is the blue meth he produced, it's what he got recognition for and it's what made him feel powerful. The song literally has the lyrics 'my baby blue'. I'm sorry if I come off as rude but it's crazy how wrong you got it all. Maybe you should rewatch the show and hopefully you'd see it as a pretty convincing finale! Otherwise like I said this could be a cool alternate universe theory.


TimMeese Oct. 2, 2013 @ 2:51 p.m.

Maybe your right that we are reading to much into what occurs in the final episode and that we should take it on it's "face value". However, maybe this was Vince Gilligan's attempt to make the situations that Walt finds himself in the final episode vague enough to allow us some speculation as to what actually occurred. Hopefully, Vince Gilligan will eventually let us all know !!!


jmbb2008 Oct. 2, 2013 @ 11:56 p.m.

Yes, the show always showed what happened in the physical world. We had no dream sequences, character fantasies or explicitly illustrated state of minds like Six Feet Under. HOWEVER, this episode broke one of its major taboos. It showed Jesse in a state of euphoria in a dream like sequence, building a box that he had traded in for some weed. We never go into character's mindset. NEVER. Everything we learned about Walt and Jesse were from their reactions to reality. So for this to happen was pretty strange and it reflected Jesse's escapist nature and the times he lived that he never appreciated. I feel like that was a little hint at the idea that reality can be questioned in the finale of Breaking Bad. It could be a reflection of Walter's innermost desire and his perception of how he wants to be viewed. While Jesse's fantasy was very bright to resemble a folger's commercial, Walt's seemed to be very gritty and dark, possibly used to reflect the mindset of who each person wish they could be.

You could say the box is Jesse's Felina, only he traded it for weed. Walt's Felina could be said to be his family that he traded for a life of crime. Or could it be the life of crime that he traded out just to live safely in New Hampshire

Another thing and this is stretching it. If that were true, then the finale is a resemblance of Brazil which is listed as a prime example of Kafkaesque film literature. Kafkaesque is the title episode for when Jesse makes that confession of the box.

I'm not sure if its Gilligan's intention, but I greatly appreciate this theory as opposed to reality. The deciphering of this clue, rejuvenated my love of this show.


TimMeese Oct. 3, 2013 @ 1:25 a.m.

What better way to end the series by totally changing the "reality" primes and doing a 180% change in how Walt and Jessie view their lives and how they came to this end. This would be a way that Vince Gilligan could completely fool the viewers and it makes sense. As previously mentioned, Walt's journey from New Hampshire to New Mexico seemed like he was in a "dream state" and those individuals that he encountered were "somewhat different". What better way to end the series, then keeping the viewers guessing !!!


Jay Allen Sanford Nov. 26, 2013 @ 9 p.m.

Mr. White talks to his students in the first eps about how nature is filled with "transformation" - but, really, most transformations in nature involve shedding temporary skin on order to reveal the REAL thing that has always been beneath the shed layers. The caterpillar is destined to become a butterfly, but no butterfly ever becomes a caterpillar - by Mr. White's own lesson plan, underneath it all, he's always been Heisenberg. His other self was just a temporary cocoon -


needabettername1 Oct. 9, 2014 @ 4:58 a.m.

Quite a fair point, but surprisingly, there are in fact rare instances in the show when we have brief but direct glimpses into the characters' minds. There is Jesse's hallucination (I think at his house party) of biker thugs approaching him: http://breakingbad.wikia.com/wiki/File:1x04_-_Jesse's_hallucination.jpg and according to this tvtropes page, http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/BreakingBadS1E2TheCatsInTheBag, Walt 'hears' his students asking questions about murder.

While there is indeed a sort of dream-like quality to Felina (many even conpare it to wish-fulfilment), it is a nightmarish one all the same, just as most of Breaking Bad was nearer the end; as someone else posted, he can't even speak to his son, which he would never fantasise about. Skyler on the other hand did of course give Walt the time of day, probably as she would want closure (and certainly answers) as much as her husband did, especially after she'd been confronted by Todd and the gang. Plus, as for Walt getting away with being in public, aside from the fact that he does so for a short period each time, and has a less assuming appearance after his hair grows back, he is also simply 'hiding in plain sight' (similarly to Gus Fring). Walt's bitter-sweet 'victory' is ultimately a reflection of his intelligence, manipulativeness and outright luck, which Jesse points out explicitly when teaming up with Hank and Gomez.

And yes, I know I'm late to the party commenting in October '14!


Jay Allen Sanford Oct. 9, 2014 @ 4:45 p.m.

Thanks for weighing in! You make a good point about Walt's fantasy casting Walt Jr. as still hating him - but Walt was never one to ignore harsh reality. Note his fantasy includes both leaving the cash legacy for Junior (seemingly more important to him that his son's love and respect) AND getting one final glimpse of Junior, apparently doing just fine despite the upheavals and tragedies. Walt was alwways great at spinning the negative into something "good for Walt."

You mentioned Skyler being visited by the thugs after Walt vanished - I'd point out that she never mentions this to Walt in their final chat!! If she was really torn up with WTF questions about her and their baby being threatened, why didn't she say anything to Walt?

Because Walt never knew about the thugs' visit, and thus couldn't fantasize about it!

Finally, I watched the finale for the third time on Sunday, and noticed another telling clue that supports my theory - note that, in the "final" seconds before Walt closes his eyes in the car, then opens them and finds the keys, we see the reflections of the police lights in his glasses (presumably one of the pairs brought by Robt. Forster to the cabin). Note that the lights travel across the glass lenses before dropping off the glass...now then, ever heard the phrase that people often use when describing what it's like to look into a dying person's eyes? "Like the light just left their eyes...." I think that's the moment Walt died.

There also seemed to be subtle change in the shape of Walt's glasses when he got back out west, as if he was fantasizing about the glasses he most remembered instead of the dimestore glasses supplied by Forster, but I don't have the finale on DVD and would have to re-view to confirm --- maybe he just replaced the glasses when he left New England. Or maybe my theory about him dying in the car is correct --


MrYakamoto Oct. 3, 2013 @ 12:11 p.m.

I agree that Walt dying in the car makes for a much much more compelling ending, but a couple things... -there isn't knee deep snow leading to the cabin. even when he leaves the road it's a couple inches deep - Walt never heard Jesse's story about building the box, so it's problematic as part of walt's fantasy. Especially since it matches Jesse's entire description exactly and is clearly in Jesse's mind. - Skylar tells Walt that men came to their house at night and threatened her about Lydia. - Cops aren't all around him in the volvo. It appears as if one cop car pulls up, briefly checks on the call and leaves (crank calls would be common for one of the most wanted men in america) - He looks very different from any picture the media would be using to publicize him, so it's not that crazy that people wouldn't recognize him immediately.


MrYakamoto Oct. 3, 2013 @ 12:27 p.m.

I take that back about the cops, i forgot in the previous episode they do show two cars pull up and several cops entering guns drawn.


fokensheetman Oct. 3, 2013 @ 7:52 p.m.

Don't quit your day job! It sounds like you were distracted while watching the show. Try again.


Jay Allen Sanford Oct. 4, 2013 @ 1:23 a.m.

Walt's 'love' is the blue meth he produced, it's what he got recognition for and it's what made him feel powerful. (Alex87)

He "feels the bullet go deep in his side" as he makes it to Rosie's backdoor and with one final kiss to his beloved, (the bloody handprint on the meth lab condenser) he says goodbye and dies... (Lattenjoe)

I think you're both right about Walt's monetary greed and lust for power being behind most of his evolution and actions, but I think he came to terms with a more accurate truth while waiting to die in the frozen cabin - he mainly just wanted to be the BEST at something. It was almost irrelevant as to WHAT he needed to master above all others -

Note that when Hank first started collecting minerals (Hank's own attempt to be an "expert" at something other than slimeballs), Walt would both correct and lecture Hank, in front of Walt Jr, showing off what he (Walt) was packing by way of offhand knowledge, compared to Hank's studious (but still novice) "expertise" on his new hobby.

Then notice how Walt, after he retired from cooking, took to operating the car wash - he even plotted point of purchase strategy for air fresheners and such, clearly wanting to be the kingpin of the old car wash the same way he'd been king of the meth cooks.

You see in the final ep the affection he seems to show for the old meth lab equipment, as Lattenjoe mentions - I think Walt knew then that he WAS the best at what he did, if only for a short while, and he missed that more than anything.

Who wouldn't??


Jay Allen Sanford Jan. 1, 2014 @ 10:05 a.m.

I rewatched the finale for the first time since the original showdate during this week's marathon, and noticed several more things that seem to back up my theory. Most notable was his final goodbye to his wife where, in finally admitting "I did it for ME," I totally missed his telling followup muse: "I was ALIVE."

I also noticed that, when Walt calls the DEA from the frozen bar and leaves the phone off the hook, it's still daylight when five cops arrive with guns drawn. However, by the time we see him in the snowed-under car, it's nighttime. It grows especially dark in the moment where he seems surrounded by police lights, which turn into a kind of pulsing strobe in his vision, and the sound blanks for a moment (IMO, the moment he slips into his dying dream), and then things start up again as he magically finds the keys and begins his magical mystery tour of his own twisted brain.

That seems important since it indicates some time has passed since the DEA was notified and five cops were already on the scene. AND cops were already all around the frozen car. This makes me doubt all the more that he could possibly drive back to the cabin and load all his money into the car (in his poor health, especially having walked the frozen path TO the bar), and NOT be spotted by all the cops (and DEA, FBI, State Troopers, etc) surely packing digital printouts of his face while scouring the area for their most-wanted fugitive.

The bit with Jesse's flashback to building the perfect wood box does remain out of place in Walt's head, but I maintain that was a legitimate flashback of Jesse's, plopped in the middle of the finale. That stuff really WAS happening to Jesse, he was locked up, forced to cook, and daydreaming about his box. Walt didn't have to imagine it - it was really happening. Probably right about at the exact moment Walt was drawing his last cold(hearted) breath 2,700 miles away.

Walt's "revenge" was just too perfect and flawless to accept. I even finally figured out how he (in his imagination) slipped the poison to Lydia: he began a wrenching cough fit that caused both Todd and Lydia to look away for just a few seconds, in embarrassment and disgust, and that's when he slipped the spiked sweetener pack into the dispenser. Remember she had apparently used the last pack and was asking for more but, after Walt left, she seemed to find one more packet in the tray. Thanks a lot, Walt!

So that's my final take, at least for now. I'm telling all you doubters, Walter White died a lonely, frozen death in a strange place, sad about his son, seething over his former coworkers, and accompanied only by a useless bundle of cash --

I bet Robert Forester wished he'd just killed Walt and taken the money on that last visit to the cabin, since the discovery of Walt's corpse surely kept him from ever recovering the rest of Walt's cash.


jasonlittle June 6, 2014 @ 7:29 p.m.

the way you say he slipped the ricin into the holder on the table is completely wrong he new how lydia set up her meetings new what time she would be there talking to todd and what table she always set at so he showed up early and slipped that shit in there it was there before she set down and she always had to ask for that damn styvia crap because it was never in the damn container you sir now less about this show then you think you do


Jay Allen Sanford Jan. 1, 2014 @ 11:13 a.m.

A couple of weird things too - I think there were a couple of odd EDITS in the rebroadcast. At the end, after the gun goes kablooey, I don't recall in the original broadcast hearing Todd say "Uncle Jack." I mean, he's not even LOOKING at his uncle, even tho the guy is clearly still twitching and reaching for his lit ciggie on the ground. Todd's heading for the window to check out the gunfire source.

And that's where the other edit seems to pop up. I'd swear Todd, on seeing the spinning gun, said something like "Gee, Mr, White," or "Geez Mr. White," or maybe even "Wow, Mr. White," his voice tinged with admiration, not seeming to care at all about Uncle Jack, or anything else for that matter. I've read reviews of the original finale broadcast that mention this too, so I wasn't hearing things. And yet, in this week's rebroadcast, all he said was "Mr. White," before Jesse jumps him from behind. What an odd edit. I wonder if Gilligan realized he was giving away the fact that Walt was clearly imagining a fantasy that could never have happened in his real world, where even the family of the people he was in the middle of killing can't help but note aloud what a brilliant and amazing guy Walt is –


Anully420 Jan. 30, 2014 @ 10:31 p.m.

This mostly just boils down to exaggerated nit-picking and it is quite obvious the author wasn't paying very close attention to ALL of the details of the final season, and yes they can be quite easily over looked.

For one thing, there certainly were guards outside the Nazi compound, a couple men (at LEAST ONE man) were ordered to stay outside and keep a look out. They were the first to get killed by the gun after the trunk popped open. Also, the gang had little reason to think Mr. White was anything but sick, desperate, and actually expecting to leave with $1 million. Besides, they were just going to kill him and he was seriously out-numbered. What actually occurred could not have been expected by any of them. They are too stupid to seriously consider his motives/mindset, or to expect the unexpected (like they should have). In my mind, they really just want to withhold his keys so that he has no chance of escape by vehicle, and so they can move his car after they kill him (also why Kenny could care less where he parked).

They only take his wallet and keys because that was all that was on him. They also checked for a wire, just for the hell of it, but tearing up his car from the inside out could have made WALT suspicious.

He retrieves the keys slowly and carefully from across the pool table, and actually grabs the keys once the door is opening and Pinkman enters, everyone is distracted and the sound of the door opening, along with the shackles that Jesse is carrying on him drones out Walt picking up the keys.

Jack has to show, unequivocally, that what Walt is accusing is not the case and that he'd never treat a "rat" as anything more than a slave. Because, despite being a fascist Nazi bigot, he still has his ideals/values and he will NOT be insulted and called a liar (think he made that pretty clear).

Final words of Todd I did find interesting, indeed. Todd is a peculiar character, though. I would say he is not only a psychopath, but also a tad naive. Or, perhaps not so much. He may have simply been awe-struck by what had just occurred. Remember, Todd had a lot of respect for Mr. White. Todd was the reason they left him with a barrel, instead of just taking it all. Arguably, Todd really didn't want his Uncle Jack to kill Mr. White, but in this case he simply had no say- and/or kept complacent due his infatuation for Lydia. One might even argue Todd had more respect for Mr. White than his own uncle. Nothing suggests to me that Todd genuinely would have missed his Uncle Jack or Kenny very much. Mr. White had more than proved himself worthy enough for any budding sociopath to look up to.

Also, yes Walt HAD been to the compound before. That was where they discussed putting down Jesse in the first place. Considering these facts, the Finale makes a lot more sense. If you're going to nit-pick something, it would help to get the details correct in the first place.


Nacon2012 Jan. 31, 2014 @ 2:01 p.m.

I'm sorry, but Vince Gilligan already said it was no Dream. He gives a very, "almost senseless" explanation however. And I'm one of those peoples that believe that the Audience get to choose the interpretation. Because that's what interpretation means. So you go Sanford! And I don't even know if you've already given in to the Face-Value, or if you've given up on your theory; But I love your theory, whether or not you're still vouching for it; it's the Theory that I now vouch for.

That Twilight Zone Episode is what really won me over though, just, WHOA! Not Bad my friend. Your organization was really good too. I wonder the difference it would've made if you inserted that Twilight remark at the very beginning instead of saving it for last.


Here's the link, please take a look at it. And tell me what you think. And tell me your opinion, do you believe that the Creator gets to dictate the interpretation? Or is it for Audience. I'm still trying to get the image of the "outline of a car" I can't find it. But if it's there, and it's clear, then I got to owe it to you for bringing up this theory, because so far, I don't know anyone who brought up this theory before You did.


Jay Allen Sanford Feb. 1, 2014 @ 5:38 a.m.

Wow, thanks for making me aware of Gilligan's response! He only mildly disproves my theory, saying he’s glad viewers have their own varying interpretations of his craft, but he goes no further than saying “It wasn’t a dream.” Well, I never said that – I theorized that everything after Mr. White tried to steal the car was a dying hallucination fashioned in his imagination. You WAKE UP from a dream, but I still believe White was rewriting his autobiography in his head in his final moments before freezing to death - it's canny of Gilligan to keep encouraging speculation as the marketing machine winds up to sell the Complete Breaking Bad DVDs and Blu-rays...

Regarding your comment "That Twilight Zone Episode is what really won me over though, just, WHOA! Not Bad my friend. Your organization was really good too. I wonder the difference it would've made if you inserted that Twilight remark at the very beginning instead of saving it for last."

I wrote the piece very stream-of-consciousness, just after the finale first aired - many of my best points didn't turn up until weeks later in this comments section, especially after I watched the rebroadcast and found still more evidence to back my theory. That second viewing showed I was slightly wrong about minor points like "no guards" and perhaps the final overhead shot but, even allowing for those, there's simply no way of otherwise explaining a couple of dozen other things I've noted.

Worth mentioning perhaps is that I'd never SEEN Breaking Bad until shortly before the finale! I digested the entire series over a nearly sleepless BB marathon that preceded the finale broadcast - as such, the entire story was as fresh in my mind as it could possibly be when I wrote the above article.


jasonlittle June 6, 2014 @ 7:23 p.m.

maybe you should re-watch the series again with some breaks where you can properly digest everything and then you just might see how flawed your theory really is


Nemesis921 June 21, 2014 @ 2:08 p.m.

It happened. You're looking for the wrong things. Gilligan himself said that he doesn't go THAT deep with symbolism and sometimes he's just retrofitting continuity issues he overlooked before.

Anyway, Walt's felina is the realization that he loved being good at cooking meth. He made the best, ever, period. Walter lies to everyone, but as Vince Gilligan said he lies best to himself. Months alone to think about the nature of his situation may have caused him to see through his own lie. He said he did everything for his family, and he didn't even realize that he was lying. It wasn't a secret he kept, his tragedy is that was not aware of the lie himself. He saw the potential and thought on it before his diagnosis. When Hank showed his bust to everyone at his 50th birthday party, that's when Walt's gears kicked into motion. The diagnosis only set it off as a sort of desperation to scramble and find that happiness and the desire to actually use his potential for greatness. Walt loved his family but he had no idea he loved the business and all of its dangers even more. In the end his desire for greatness cost everyone he cared about and grew to care about over that time period.

Also, the white supremacists did try to direct walt into the carport but he played dumb and they just said whatever we'll move it after.

Laziness killed them. And they were seriously lazy always pigging out and sitting around smoking.


Lostinindecision Jan. 14, 2015 @ 2:13 a.m.

I love your theory of Walt's death. Even though you were wrong about some details, you pointed out questionable moments I had noticed too, and things I had missed. The main point I had trouble with was that the police believed he stole that car in NH (As Marie said to Skyler on the phone), and could likely be headed home. He was responsible for the disappearance, and probable murder, of two DEA agents. In real life he never would have made it back to NM. The main routes from NH to NM would have been lined with police in every state, looking for that car.

I will try to find the Twilight Zone episode and watch it.

Yes, the final interpretation of a tv show, movie, book, music, etc., belongs to each individual audience member. Entertainment would be so much less enjoyable if we were just passive participants in the story lines.


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