California Cannabis Coalition Seeks to Eliminate Ordinances

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— May 12, 2011 10:04 p.m.

California Cannabis Coalition Seeks to Eliminate Ordinances

Thanks for supporting the conversation. It really should be as simple as legal age can access but for some reason we have seen the wisdom in making it illegal and in turn making sure it was a commodity that demands high prices. So what I see so far is the far no and the commerce yes people want to be sure that it stays profitable for both. That would be the law enforcement industry and the drug supply industry with the Tax payer covering the costs on both sides. what if we have local supply? What if you can get a pound from a friend for free? Screws both sides.. This shouldn't be I beat you or your position it should be the energy that spins the wheel we all watch.. What will this promote? Cultivation or Commerce? Which helps our communities more given the reality that drugs are everywhere. Just my thoughts.
— May 12, 2011 9:36 p.m.

California Cannabis Coalition Seeks to Eliminate Ordinances

I accept your geometry. I too have a limited solution. My passion is about the soil and the Earth since that is source of my childhood experience as a 3 and 4 year old.; the Garden was magic to me and the soil was the source of plant life to me. We bond with the realm of our community in all things if we are not independently wealthy. But is commerce the real center? How do you see local production effecting the cross boarder commerce on cannabis? Given, hypothetically, that all of the people of California can grow cannabis. Will local supply counter cartel profits and in turn allow USA law enforcement to effect better the will of the people? We built a fence and it works.. Crime is down but will local cannabis production help more? You guys down South are central to a competent plan. I'm sure we all can agree on that.
— May 12, 2011 9:28 p.m.

California Cannabis Coalition Seeks to Eliminate Ordinances

You and I have a small difference of opinion. While I voted yes on 19 I was against it. I couldn't vote no in a no county. It was a matter of local politics more than approval of prop 19. But, we are together on the need for change. My particular bent originates from a life long love of the garden. I am pleased to be chatting. Here is a gift link of Democracynow.org and the war south of the boarder. http://www.democracynow.org/2011/5/11/a_war_on_ci… I have a core to my politics that reflects horticulture rights to the plants of this Earth for all. Cannabis is one of those plants that we derive benefit from. Economics aside I'm feeling that we may find common chord in community controlled cannabis. We want safe communities. Communities can have cannabis. Why not expand on a theme and extend the permit system to aid communities and law enforcement. Where I diverge with the prop 19 sized effort is that it's too drastic and too complex for voters. I feel strongly that success of a more singular effort will do more for our goals than a failure of a more complex one again. How do your feel on a simplified effort for 2012?
— May 11, 2011 4:57 p.m.

California Cannabis Coalition Seeks to Eliminate Ordinances

How would I stop the Federal Government? I wouldn't. I'd change our State laws first and aim to reduce the crime associated with Cannabis. Our efforts in Mexico have pushed the cartels far south. Our efforts on terrorism have bore fruit. I think the Federal Government needs our help. But the Federal Government doesn't live on our block so we must take care of our State first. The question back to you is are the No voters willing to adopt uniform laws that allow private cannabis State wide? We have to apply cannabis law uniformly to all the almost 600 Jurisdictions in California. No exceptions. Let us craft a policy that we can do all the things we need for our communities but it will require that we agree to allow cannabis for all equally and by State law. The choice is to be proactive or delay until the voter demographics change and the Yes voters become the majority. That is, simply, what is happening as I type. The refer madness generation is passing and the M-TV and Video game generation is rising. Prop 19 failed but not by such a margin that it is inconceivable that in the not too distant future people will vote yes on Commerce and pot shops in every town. It's not a time for No people to have faith it's time for us to compromise and lay the foundation for the future. Cannabis is popular and a part of our California culture. I just sent a letter to the editor of the Modesto Bee yesterday and I am asking for the No voters to lead the way. I'll not publish that letter here yet but I trust I have a good standing with the Modesto Bee and they have no reason other than I sent a letter a month ago not to publish. Here is a link to a prior letter to the editor. http://www.modbee.com/2011/03/30/1622735/legalize… So are you a No person? I'm in Turlock Ca and that is just above the Southern California Line. This is a No county. I am a 10 year medical person who has a recommendation for an actual medical reason. What do you say can we find the center and common ground and get Cannabis under control? Or will we bicker and wait until the Cannabis industry funds a successful initiative?
— May 11, 2011 11:48 a.m.

California Cannabis Coalition Seeks to Eliminate Ordinances

We cannot get past the Federal Commerce issues. The Feds have stepped up their efforts with letters to State government people in Washington, Colorado and California. So far none have raised an angry fist in the direction of our Federal people and I don't blame them. What we can do is legalize private cannabis horticulture ( not cultivation which has more to do with the soil than the plants ), legalize use and legalize non-commercial private trade (seeds,clone and produce) All this for the individual and not for commerce. If we do this equally for all California we will lower the value of cannabis making it less valuable at the same time we grant liberty to our California citizens. If we gamble on commerce in 2012 we waste a turn if the demographics have not changed enough and MPP is suggesting they will not have changed enough by 2012. Let us take a safe first step and expand what the medical does to all Californians. Let's allow private horticulture, use and private non-commercial trade and then have a look at things for 2014. Otherwise an all or nothing like prop 19 was again means we either do for industry or we get nothing while industry still makes profits. I want to see safe neighbourhoods too and all I want is a legal garden in 2012 where i can enjoy growing this amazing plant. I'll wait on the business until we are settled in with horticulture and are ready. That anyone can garden with cannabis and share with friends offers an alternate to participating in illegal trade. Sure people will still try and sell but if those who want to be legal are willing to pay for a permit like medical people do then law enforcement will have an aid in finding those who are not in compliance. Only by eliminating the drug profits will we reclaim our streets. Only by a safe and simple first step can we start our walk to cannabis freedom. Commerce is a dead horse for 2012 but people are trying hard to make us think it isn't. Lets get smart.. Lets take it one step at a time with rights for the people first since the Feds are dead serious on the Commerce issue.. once we have more states doing medical things may change but we would have the cannabis plant in our hands legally when they do. I for one think granting rights to the plant to our people is better than allowing them to buy weed at a store for a first step. To hell with commerce first!
— May 10, 2011 6:36 p.m.