Quantcast
4S Ranch Allied Gardens Alpine Baja Balboa Park Bankers Hill Barrio Logan Bay Ho Bay Park Black Mountain Ranch Blossom Valley Bonita Bonsall Borrego Springs Boulevard Campo Cardiff-by-the-Sea Carlsbad Carmel Mountain Carmel Valley Chollas View Chula Vista City College City Heights Clairemont College Area Coronado CSU San Marcos Cuyamaca College Del Cerro Del Mar Descanso Downtown San Diego Eastlake East Village El Cajon Emerald Hills Encanto Encinitas Escondido Fallbrook Fletcher Hills Golden Hill Grant Hill Grantville Grossmont College Guatay Harbor Island Hillcrest Imperial Beach Imperial Valley Jacumba Jamacha-Lomita Jamul Julian Kearny Mesa Kensington La Jolla Lakeside La Mesa Lemon Grove Leucadia Liberty Station Lincoln Acres Lincoln Park Linda Vista Little Italy Logan Heights Mesa College Midway District MiraCosta College Miramar Miramar College Mira Mesa Mission Beach Mission Hills Mission Valley Mountain View Mount Hope Mount Laguna National City Nestor Normal Heights North Park Oak Park Ocean Beach Oceanside Old Town Otay Mesa Pacific Beach Pala Palomar College Palomar Mountain Paradise Hills Pauma Valley Pine Valley Point Loma Point Loma Nazarene Potrero Poway Rainbow Ramona Rancho Bernardo Rancho Penasquitos Rancho San Diego Rancho Santa Fe Rolando San Carlos San Marcos San Onofre Santa Ysabel Santee San Ysidro Scripps Ranch SDSU Serra Mesa Shelltown Shelter Island Sherman Heights Skyline Solana Beach Sorrento Valley Southcrest South Park Southwestern College Spring Valley Stockton Talmadge Temecula Tierrasanta Tijuana UCSD University City University Heights USD Valencia Park Valley Center Vista Warner Springs

I'd Fight

America saw a return to patriotism after the 9/11 tragedy that managed to raise enlistment rates in the military. But will the escalation of aggression in Israel stimulate the same response from American Jews?

As Sabbath comes to an end with the final prayers at Beth Jacob synagogue, young families enjoy a leisurely Saturday evening, socializing in the synagogue lobby while their children play in the empty parking lot. One of the young fathers, Ariel Buchwald, 34, is willing to go to Israel and fight. "I would want to defend us against the people who are attacking us."

Yehoshua Levine, who would not disclose his age, except to say that he is in his 20s, is also ready to fight, but he looks upon the conflict as something out of the ordinary. "The way that the Israelis fight isn't in a formal army setting. They are dealing with Palestinian terrorists who you just can't pick out and fight. Theoretically, if the army needed people, and I enlisted and went through all the training and steps, I could do that."

Levine's insight into the situation suggests he has devoted a lot of time to following the conflict. "The techniques and the morals that the people who are fighting in the Israeli army are totally misrepresented by the press and obviously by the United Nations as evidenced by the Jenin fact-finding mission. They never had any fact-finding mission to try to link up the Palestinian Authority with the terrorist attacks, and there's tons of documents and evidence that link them. This shows that they're obviously slanted in their view of the two sides. That's one of the reasons I would be willing to fight in the Israeli army, because they have such high morals and they teach their soldiers to try to avoid any civilian casualties when they can. For instance, what they called the 'Jenin massacre' obviously wasn't. They could have done air strikes like America did in Kabul, but they didn't. Instead, they went in on foot, and 23 Israeli soldiers ended up dying in order to avoid civilian casualties. That's definitely an army that I would be proud to fight in and be a part of, if they needed me."

When asked if he would be willing to fight, Yonah Weiss, 22, seems certain. "Sure. I would want to help the brothers and sisters, but mainly to help rid the world of terrorism and make peace on earth. I think we need a lot of help. Long strides await us to reach real peace."

David Mahpour, 18, says he would probably fight for Israel. "Why not? I think a lot about the situation over there. It's important. A person needs to fight for what they believe in, and that's what I believe in. If you don't believe in something, then there's no point. You have to have a goal in life. You have to have a hope for something. That's why all those people are still there, because they believe in something, and they still have a goal. They want to stay for what they fought for 40 years ago."

Shmuel Kellogg, 21, sounds as if he's ready to suit up immediately. "It's our homeland, and we learn in our holy Torah, we have to do anything that it takes to defend our land against people who threaten it."

At the SDSU Chabad House, pro-Israel sentiments also run strong. Robert Shaw, 39, is willing to fight. "Absolutely -- if my wife and five children would let me! It's our homeland for 3000 years, and I'm ready to help provide for security and safety for the rest of my brethren."

At Alpha Epsilon Pi (a Jewish fraternity), David Gurovich, 20, says he is willing to fight for Israel under certain conditions. "I moved from Ukraine to this country and I love America, but I won't tolerate terrorism -- especially after September 11. I support Israel, because I saw the way Palestinians reacted to 9/11, dancing in the streets. I see how other people in the Middle East are. It's just envy for this country, because they don't like capitalism. I would fight for America, but I'm not sure I would fight for Israel. But the big reason I support Israel -- not as a Jew, but as a person -- is because there is only one Jewish state. How many Arab states are there? Many. But for the Jews, that's their only place, and they can't go anywhere else, so that's why they're defending it with their lives."

Dan Lax, 20, doubts that he would fight for Israel. "I was never really brought up too religious. I would like to go to Israel sometime, but I haven't been there, and I don't feel like I would be willing to die for their cause."

Rahami Buckman, 18, plays an arcade game while discussing Israel. The clicking noises of the machine match the staccato cadence of his speech. "Right now, no. I wouldn't fight there. This war's been going on for, like, a thousand years, man, and it's like...at this point, it just goes back and forth. I don't feel that either country is wrong or right. Someone needs to step up and, like, take control and, like, negotiate the peace, and I don't think the U.S. has been doing a very good job of it. So I feel like there's no need [to fight], at least not right now. Maybe, in future years, if there's a need, and the Palestinians are oppressing the Jews, and the Arab nations decided to team up and go to war with Israel, it might be possible. But right now, no."

Tracy Marks, 19, works as a cashier at D.Z. Akin's restaurant. "I might possibly be willing to go. I think that I should go, but I don't know if I would be brave enough to go and risk my life."

Sabrina Wolfson, 25, has just finished a late dinner at D.Z. Akin's. "Yeah. I'd go. They won the war six years ago, so they should be able to keep the land."

Robbie Ellison, 19, would not fight for Israel. "It's because of my present situation. I'm a college student, and I have other ambitions. I don't exactly agree with everything that's going on there -- all of Sharon's decisions."

On Mother's Day, Mothers Against Terrorism sponsored a pro-Israel rally at De Anza Cove in Mission Bay. Most of the young people there were decisive in their commitment to Israel.

Levi Eckhaus, 19, is willing to fight "if Israel were in danger of losing its existence. I don't think it's that bad yet."

Michael Attelson, 20, is willing to fight for Israel because he sees it as a family affair. "We have to support our brethren living in the Holy Land and do everything we can to help them out. If I were to be called up, I would definitely take arms and fight the war against terrorism."

Shefa Orah Giudica, 35, would fight for Israel if she were permitted. "I'm an Orthodox woman, so it wouldn't really be for me to go fight, but I would help Israel every way I could. It's something I would do. I love Israel -- with all my heart, with all my soul, with all my strength. I was there in May 1999 for two weeks, and, God willing, I will be back there to live someday. That's my hope and focus, according to God's plan."

"Yeah, I'd fight!" Rebecca Rothstein, 34, says with no hesitation. "The way I would fight for America against terrorism is the way I would fight for Israel. Terrorism has to be stopped, and Israel is a democracy like the United States. I would want to defend those basic human rights of justice and liberty that are now at stake."

Ariel Rabin, 18, is almost ready to sign up. "It's essential that we maintain ties with Israel and they keep on prospering to make sure that our welfare, of the United States, is secure. They are our only democratic ally in the Middle East, and it's imperative that we keep them strong."

Allen Rabinovich, 25, supports Israel because it's the Jewish homeland. "I'm Jewish, and I feel like I'm part of that country. They're fighting for the same thing we're fighting for right now in Afghanistan. I would fight for Israel for their welfare and because of my personal connection."

Leah Moryoses, 32, holds her eight-month-old son -- the only reason she wouldn't fight at the moment, but she is willing to send her husband, Moti. "I'd send him because Israel needs to be a country forever, and it needs to be as big as it originally was, and we need to have the Jews able to control their own country."

Her husband, Moti Moryoses, 36, was born and raised in Israel. "I've served for three years in the Israeli army already. It's my country. My family is there, and when somebody comes to kill you, you have to kill them. You don't wait for them to kill you."

John Canton, 34, would be willing to fight for Israel if he saw the right signs for it. "If it's the calling that God put in my heart, then I would -- just like I would for our own nation. If God instructed me to do it, I would. He reveals things in many ways, but basically, it's in the desires of your heart. It's an overwhelming feeling, a thing that would come to me communicatively. It's not an issue that has come up yet. I think the way to fight right now is to stand up for Israel and be supportive and loving, just like we would for our own country."

While not quite old enough yet at 17, Gabriel Bajst would not hesitate to fight for Israel. "I have a moral and religious obligation to defend my land, the land that God gave me."

Here's something you might be interested in.
Submit a free classified
or view all

Previous article

Music follows nature – the Moldau, Central Asia's steppes, the Alps, the Appian Way , cliffs of Cornwall

We find Siegfried resting under a linden tree
Next Article

The Tobacconist: Stogie story

His job is to sell pleasure and desire, cigars “hand-rolled tenderly by beautiful women on their thighs.”

America saw a return to patriotism after the 9/11 tragedy that managed to raise enlistment rates in the military. But will the escalation of aggression in Israel stimulate the same response from American Jews?

As Sabbath comes to an end with the final prayers at Beth Jacob synagogue, young families enjoy a leisurely Saturday evening, socializing in the synagogue lobby while their children play in the empty parking lot. One of the young fathers, Ariel Buchwald, 34, is willing to go to Israel and fight. "I would want to defend us against the people who are attacking us."

Yehoshua Levine, who would not disclose his age, except to say that he is in his 20s, is also ready to fight, but he looks upon the conflict as something out of the ordinary. "The way that the Israelis fight isn't in a formal army setting. They are dealing with Palestinian terrorists who you just can't pick out and fight. Theoretically, if the army needed people, and I enlisted and went through all the training and steps, I could do that."

Levine's insight into the situation suggests he has devoted a lot of time to following the conflict. "The techniques and the morals that the people who are fighting in the Israeli army are totally misrepresented by the press and obviously by the United Nations as evidenced by the Jenin fact-finding mission. They never had any fact-finding mission to try to link up the Palestinian Authority with the terrorist attacks, and there's tons of documents and evidence that link them. This shows that they're obviously slanted in their view of the two sides. That's one of the reasons I would be willing to fight in the Israeli army, because they have such high morals and they teach their soldiers to try to avoid any civilian casualties when they can. For instance, what they called the 'Jenin massacre' obviously wasn't. They could have done air strikes like America did in Kabul, but they didn't. Instead, they went in on foot, and 23 Israeli soldiers ended up dying in order to avoid civilian casualties. That's definitely an army that I would be proud to fight in and be a part of, if they needed me."

When asked if he would be willing to fight, Yonah Weiss, 22, seems certain. "Sure. I would want to help the brothers and sisters, but mainly to help rid the world of terrorism and make peace on earth. I think we need a lot of help. Long strides await us to reach real peace."

David Mahpour, 18, says he would probably fight for Israel. "Why not? I think a lot about the situation over there. It's important. A person needs to fight for what they believe in, and that's what I believe in. If you don't believe in something, then there's no point. You have to have a goal in life. You have to have a hope for something. That's why all those people are still there, because they believe in something, and they still have a goal. They want to stay for what they fought for 40 years ago."

Shmuel Kellogg, 21, sounds as if he's ready to suit up immediately. "It's our homeland, and we learn in our holy Torah, we have to do anything that it takes to defend our land against people who threaten it."

At the SDSU Chabad House, pro-Israel sentiments also run strong. Robert Shaw, 39, is willing to fight. "Absolutely -- if my wife and five children would let me! It's our homeland for 3000 years, and I'm ready to help provide for security and safety for the rest of my brethren."

At Alpha Epsilon Pi (a Jewish fraternity), David Gurovich, 20, says he is willing to fight for Israel under certain conditions. "I moved from Ukraine to this country and I love America, but I won't tolerate terrorism -- especially after September 11. I support Israel, because I saw the way Palestinians reacted to 9/11, dancing in the streets. I see how other people in the Middle East are. It's just envy for this country, because they don't like capitalism. I would fight for America, but I'm not sure I would fight for Israel. But the big reason I support Israel -- not as a Jew, but as a person -- is because there is only one Jewish state. How many Arab states are there? Many. But for the Jews, that's their only place, and they can't go anywhere else, so that's why they're defending it with their lives."

Dan Lax, 20, doubts that he would fight for Israel. "I was never really brought up too religious. I would like to go to Israel sometime, but I haven't been there, and I don't feel like I would be willing to die for their cause."

Rahami Buckman, 18, plays an arcade game while discussing Israel. The clicking noises of the machine match the staccato cadence of his speech. "Right now, no. I wouldn't fight there. This war's been going on for, like, a thousand years, man, and it's like...at this point, it just goes back and forth. I don't feel that either country is wrong or right. Someone needs to step up and, like, take control and, like, negotiate the peace, and I don't think the U.S. has been doing a very good job of it. So I feel like there's no need [to fight], at least not right now. Maybe, in future years, if there's a need, and the Palestinians are oppressing the Jews, and the Arab nations decided to team up and go to war with Israel, it might be possible. But right now, no."

Tracy Marks, 19, works as a cashier at D.Z. Akin's restaurant. "I might possibly be willing to go. I think that I should go, but I don't know if I would be brave enough to go and risk my life."

Sabrina Wolfson, 25, has just finished a late dinner at D.Z. Akin's. "Yeah. I'd go. They won the war six years ago, so they should be able to keep the land."

Robbie Ellison, 19, would not fight for Israel. "It's because of my present situation. I'm a college student, and I have other ambitions. I don't exactly agree with everything that's going on there -- all of Sharon's decisions."

On Mother's Day, Mothers Against Terrorism sponsored a pro-Israel rally at De Anza Cove in Mission Bay. Most of the young people there were decisive in their commitment to Israel.

Levi Eckhaus, 19, is willing to fight "if Israel were in danger of losing its existence. I don't think it's that bad yet."

Michael Attelson, 20, is willing to fight for Israel because he sees it as a family affair. "We have to support our brethren living in the Holy Land and do everything we can to help them out. If I were to be called up, I would definitely take arms and fight the war against terrorism."

Shefa Orah Giudica, 35, would fight for Israel if she were permitted. "I'm an Orthodox woman, so it wouldn't really be for me to go fight, but I would help Israel every way I could. It's something I would do. I love Israel -- with all my heart, with all my soul, with all my strength. I was there in May 1999 for two weeks, and, God willing, I will be back there to live someday. That's my hope and focus, according to God's plan."

"Yeah, I'd fight!" Rebecca Rothstein, 34, says with no hesitation. "The way I would fight for America against terrorism is the way I would fight for Israel. Terrorism has to be stopped, and Israel is a democracy like the United States. I would want to defend those basic human rights of justice and liberty that are now at stake."

Ariel Rabin, 18, is almost ready to sign up. "It's essential that we maintain ties with Israel and they keep on prospering to make sure that our welfare, of the United States, is secure. They are our only democratic ally in the Middle East, and it's imperative that we keep them strong."

Allen Rabinovich, 25, supports Israel because it's the Jewish homeland. "I'm Jewish, and I feel like I'm part of that country. They're fighting for the same thing we're fighting for right now in Afghanistan. I would fight for Israel for their welfare and because of my personal connection."

Leah Moryoses, 32, holds her eight-month-old son -- the only reason she wouldn't fight at the moment, but she is willing to send her husband, Moti. "I'd send him because Israel needs to be a country forever, and it needs to be as big as it originally was, and we need to have the Jews able to control their own country."

Her husband, Moti Moryoses, 36, was born and raised in Israel. "I've served for three years in the Israeli army already. It's my country. My family is there, and when somebody comes to kill you, you have to kill them. You don't wait for them to kill you."

John Canton, 34, would be willing to fight for Israel if he saw the right signs for it. "If it's the calling that God put in my heart, then I would -- just like I would for our own nation. If God instructed me to do it, I would. He reveals things in many ways, but basically, it's in the desires of your heart. It's an overwhelming feeling, a thing that would come to me communicatively. It's not an issue that has come up yet. I think the way to fight right now is to stand up for Israel and be supportive and loving, just like we would for our own country."

While not quite old enough yet at 17, Gabriel Bajst would not hesitate to fight for Israel. "I have a moral and religious obligation to defend my land, the land that God gave me."

Sponsored
Here's something you might be interested in.
Submit a free classified
or view all
Previous article

Building paradise in San Diego

Mission Valley, Tijuana gardens, Otay Mesa, downtown skyscrapers, One Paseo, Rancho Santa Fe mansion
Next Article

Building paradise in San Diego

Mission Valley, Tijuana gardens, Otay Mesa, downtown skyscrapers, One Paseo, Rancho Santa Fe mansion
Comments
0

Be the first to leave a comment.

Sign in to comment

Sign in

Art Reviews — W.S. Di Piero's eye on exhibits Ask a Hipster — Advice you didn't know you needed Best Buys — San Diego shopping Big Screen — Movie commentary Blurt — Music's inside track Booze News — San Diego spirits City Lights — News and politics Classical Music — Immortal beauty Classifieds — Free and easy Cover Stories — Front-page features Excerpts — Literary and spiritual excerpts Famous Former Neighbors — Next-door celebs Feast! — Food & drink reviews Feature Stories — Local news & stories From the Archives — Spotlight on the past Golden Dreams — Talk of the town Here's the Deal — Chad Deal's watering holes Just Announced — The scoop on shows Letters — Our inbox [email protected] — Local movie buffs share favorites Movie Reviews — Our critics' picks and pans Musician Interviews — Up close with local artists Neighborhood News from Stringers — Hyperlocal news News Ticker — News & politics Obermeyer — San Diego politics illustrated Of Note — Concert picks Out & About — What's Happening Overheard in San Diego — Eavesdropping illustrated Poetry — The old and the new Pour Over — Grab a cup Reader Travel — Travel section built by travelers Reading — The hunt for intellectuals Roam-O-Rama — SoCal's best hiking/biking trails San Diego Beer News — Inside San Diego suds SD on the QT — Almost factual news Set 'em Up Joe — Bartenders' drink recipes Sheep and Goats — Places of worship Special Issues — The best of Sports — Athletics without gush Street Style — San Diego streets have style Suit Up — Fashion tips for dudes Theater Reviews — Local productions Theater antireviews — Narrow your search Tin Fork — Silver spoon alternative Under the Radar — Matt Potter's undercover work Unforgettable — Long-ago San Diego Unreal Estate — San Diego's priciest pads Waterfront — All things ocean Your Week — Daily event picks
4S Ranch Allied Gardens Alpine Baja Balboa Park Bankers Hill Barrio Logan Bay Ho Bay Park Black Mountain Ranch Blossom Valley Bonita Bonsall Borrego Springs Boulevard Campo Cardiff-by-the-Sea Carlsbad Carmel Mountain Carmel Valley Chollas View Chula Vista City College City Heights Clairemont College Area Coronado CSU San Marcos Cuyamaca College Del Cerro Del Mar Descanso Downtown San Diego Eastlake East Village El Cajon Emerald Hills Encanto Encinitas Escondido Fallbrook Fletcher Hills Golden Hill Grant Hill Grantville Grossmont College Guatay Harbor Island Hillcrest Imperial Beach Imperial Valley Jacumba Jamacha-Lomita Jamul Julian Kearny Mesa Kensington La Jolla Lakeside La Mesa Lemon Grove Leucadia Liberty Station Lincoln Acres Lincoln Park Linda Vista Little Italy Logan Heights Mesa College Midway District MiraCosta College Miramar Miramar College Mira Mesa Mission Beach Mission Hills Mission Valley Mountain View Mount Hope Mount Laguna National City Nestor Normal Heights North Park Oak Park Ocean Beach Oceanside Old Town Otay Mesa Pacific Beach Pala Palomar College Palomar Mountain Paradise Hills Pauma Valley Pine Valley Point Loma Point Loma Nazarene Potrero Poway Rainbow Ramona Rancho Bernardo Rancho Penasquitos Rancho San Diego Rancho Santa Fe Rolando San Carlos San Marcos San Onofre Santa Ysabel Santee San Ysidro Scripps Ranch SDSU Serra Mesa Shelltown Shelter Island Sherman Heights Skyline Solana Beach Sorrento Valley Southcrest South Park Southwestern College Spring Valley Stockton Talmadge Temecula Tierrasanta Tijuana UCSD University City University Heights USD Valencia Park Valley Center Vista Warner Springs
Close