Anchor ads are not supported on this page.

4S Ranch Allied Gardens Alpine Baja Balboa Park Bankers Hill Barrio Logan Bay Ho Bay Park Black Mountain Ranch Blossom Valley Bonita Bonsall Borrego Springs Boulevard Campo Cardiff-by-the-Sea Carlsbad Carmel Mountain Carmel Valley Chollas View Chula Vista City College City Heights Clairemont College Area Coronado CSU San Marcos Cuyamaca College Del Cerro Del Mar Descanso Downtown San Diego Eastlake East Village El Cajon Emerald Hills Encanto Encinitas Escondido Fallbrook Fletcher Hills Golden Hill Grant Hill Grantville Grossmont College Guatay Harbor Island Hillcrest Imperial Beach Imperial Valley Jacumba Jamacha-Lomita Jamul Julian Kearny Mesa Kensington La Jolla Lakeside La Mesa Lemon Grove Leucadia Liberty Station Lincoln Acres Lincoln Park Linda Vista Little Italy Logan Heights Mesa College Midway District MiraCosta College Miramar Miramar College Mira Mesa Mission Beach Mission Hills Mission Valley Mountain View Mount Hope Mount Laguna National City Nestor Normal Heights North Park Oak Park Ocean Beach Oceanside Old Town Otay Mesa Pacific Beach Pala Palomar College Palomar Mountain Paradise Hills Pauma Valley Pine Valley Point Loma Point Loma Nazarene Potrero Poway Rainbow Ramona Rancho Bernardo Rancho Penasquitos Rancho San Diego Rancho Santa Fe Rolando San Carlos San Marcos San Onofre Santa Ysabel Santee San Ysidro Scripps Ranch SDSU Serra Mesa Shelltown Shelter Island Sherman Heights Skyline Solana Beach Sorrento Valley Southcrest South Park Southwestern College Spring Valley Stockton Talmadge Temecula Tierrasanta Tijuana UCSD University City University Heights USD Valencia Park Valley Center Vista Warner Springs

Doing the Math: Why Was Expected "Record" Voter Turn-out so Low?

Yesterday Los Angeles had the highest voter turnout in their history...San Francisco had the lowest turnout in any Presidential race.

If there is one thing I got out of 8 long years of college and $60,000 in loans, it's problem solving skills.

Why did so few people in San Diego, and the rest of California EXCEPT Los Angeles care so little about the results?

Los Angeles:

http://cbs2.com/local/voter.turnout.LA.2.857156.html

82% of Los Angeles voters cast ballots.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/10/29/politics/p155335D19.DTL&feed=rss.news

I will preface by saying that the biggest difference I see between San Diego, San Francisco, OC and Los Angeles (the big winner) is the voting machinery. I know in SD we use Premier (previously Diebold), very unreliable featured in HBO doc. Hacking Democracy. In SF they use Sequoia which Deborah Seiler coincidentally also worked for and has been in the news constantly for its unreliabilty and vulnerability to hacking. The other 2, I know little about, but am very curious.

It just doesnt make sense that an extremely political active city like SF would have a significantly lower turnout rate than Los Angeles.

San Francisco is a city that you would think would shatter records to vote against Prop 8 and for Obama.

Total Registration and Turnout
Registration 477,651
Total Ballots Cast 237,843 49.79 % Election Day Reporting 191,962
Vote by Mail / Absentee Reporting 45,881

49% turn out for the city of San Francisco? Is this correct?

The city was braced for overwhelming record turnout. All polls showed Prop 8 losing.

Its the lowest Presidential turnout SF has ever had.

11/04/08 Registration 477,651
Turnout 237,843
Percetage 49.79 %

11/02/04 - 2004 November General Election Registration 486,937 Turnout 361,822 Percentage 74.31%

11/07/00 Registration 486,636 Turnout 324,031 Percentage 66.59%

Orange County: Turnout is anemically low: 35% as of 6pm

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Not_Over_Yet_But_OC_Voter_Turnout_Way_Down.html

So our beloved registrar here in San Diego, Deborah Seiler, predicted an astounding 80% turnout last night to vote in this election. And that was pretty consistent with registrars across the country.

www.sandiego.gov/city-clerk/pdf/voterstats.pdf These are the up to date voter stats as of 10-28-08. So that is it-- No one could register after that.

We have 76,458 registered voters here in D3. We had 40,593 votes

Thats not close to 80%. That's 53% turnout and 40,000 are registered Democrat and only 13,000 are registered Republican. How did the Republicans run away with this? Stephen was the Democratic Party choice. And Todd Gloria was the Building Industry and Republican Jerry Sanders choice. (Maybe this is why he stayed in their hotel last night).

City Attorney race: An astounding 370, 836 people voted for city attorney. Surely that is 80%. I mean that race was a BIG deal. We have 654,817 registered voters citywide. Thats only 56% turnout.

District 1 D1: Total registered voters: 111,696. Total votes: 62409 . That is 55% voter turnout

District 7 D7: Total registered voters 77,066 Total votes: 44180 That's 57% voter turnout

Presidential:

Well how many registered voters are in SD County 1,488,157. This is as of 10-20-08

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/ror_102008.htm OK So surely everyone voted for President. Lets look at those numbers.

Total votes: 969,950 That is only 65%.

But that is county. Why does the county as a whole have a significantly higher voter turnout than the city.

Do you think 25% of people decided that Obama had won and decided not to vote at the last minute? I was glued to CNN and they did not begin announcing any state wins until about 6pm and they did not announce Obama had won until 8pm.

Additionally, following this logic, you would have seen a similar turnout along the West Coast. Oregon's turnout was 84%.

http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_110408_oregon_presidential_election.17d4d933c.html

I'm just asking questions. I think we always need to ask lots of questions to protect our Democracy.

Oregon has one of the safest voting systems--because they are HAND COUNTED! Yes a state is still hand counting votes and it is by far the safest means possible.

I think these CA results at the very least call into question the use of voting and electronic scanning machines made w/ proprietary software, which can all be hacked. And most importantly which was created by Republican companies. All I want is to know that my vote really does count. I have not felt that why ever since California got all electronic. I personally think California should go back to the days of good 'ol fashion hand jobs.

Here's something you might be interested in.
Submit a free classified
or view all

Previous article

Live Five: Kai Kalama, Morgan Leigh Band, David Rosales, Chickenbone Slim, Field of Dreamz Festival

Acoustic island, pop country, roots Americana, blues, and a Stoopid music fest in Del Mar, East Village, Shelter Island, La Jolla

Yesterday Los Angeles had the highest voter turnout in their history...San Francisco had the lowest turnout in any Presidential race.

If there is one thing I got out of 8 long years of college and $60,000 in loans, it's problem solving skills.

Why did so few people in San Diego, and the rest of California EXCEPT Los Angeles care so little about the results?

Los Angeles:

http://cbs2.com/local/voter.turnout.LA.2.857156.html

82% of Los Angeles voters cast ballots.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/10/29/politics/p155335D19.DTL&feed=rss.news

I will preface by saying that the biggest difference I see between San Diego, San Francisco, OC and Los Angeles (the big winner) is the voting machinery. I know in SD we use Premier (previously Diebold), very unreliable featured in HBO doc. Hacking Democracy. In SF they use Sequoia which Deborah Seiler coincidentally also worked for and has been in the news constantly for its unreliabilty and vulnerability to hacking. The other 2, I know little about, but am very curious.

It just doesnt make sense that an extremely political active city like SF would have a significantly lower turnout rate than Los Angeles.

San Francisco is a city that you would think would shatter records to vote against Prop 8 and for Obama.

Total Registration and Turnout
Registration 477,651
Total Ballots Cast 237,843 49.79 % Election Day Reporting 191,962
Vote by Mail / Absentee Reporting 45,881

49% turn out for the city of San Francisco? Is this correct?

The city was braced for overwhelming record turnout. All polls showed Prop 8 losing.

Its the lowest Presidential turnout SF has ever had.

11/04/08 Registration 477,651
Turnout 237,843
Percetage 49.79 %

11/02/04 - 2004 November General Election Registration 486,937 Turnout 361,822 Percentage 74.31%

11/07/00 Registration 486,636 Turnout 324,031 Percentage 66.59%

Orange County: Turnout is anemically low: 35% as of 6pm

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Not_Over_Yet_But_OC_Voter_Turnout_Way_Down.html

So our beloved registrar here in San Diego, Deborah Seiler, predicted an astounding 80% turnout last night to vote in this election. And that was pretty consistent with registrars across the country.

www.sandiego.gov/city-clerk/pdf/voterstats.pdf These are the up to date voter stats as of 10-28-08. So that is it-- No one could register after that.

We have 76,458 registered voters here in D3. We had 40,593 votes

Thats not close to 80%. That's 53% turnout and 40,000 are registered Democrat and only 13,000 are registered Republican. How did the Republicans run away with this? Stephen was the Democratic Party choice. And Todd Gloria was the Building Industry and Republican Jerry Sanders choice. (Maybe this is why he stayed in their hotel last night).

City Attorney race: An astounding 370, 836 people voted for city attorney. Surely that is 80%. I mean that race was a BIG deal. We have 654,817 registered voters citywide. Thats only 56% turnout.

District 1 D1: Total registered voters: 111,696. Total votes: 62409 . That is 55% voter turnout

District 7 D7: Total registered voters 77,066 Total votes: 44180 That's 57% voter turnout

Presidential:

Well how many registered voters are in SD County 1,488,157. This is as of 10-20-08

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/ror_102008.htm OK So surely everyone voted for President. Lets look at those numbers.

Total votes: 969,950 That is only 65%.

But that is county. Why does the county as a whole have a significantly higher voter turnout than the city.

Do you think 25% of people decided that Obama had won and decided not to vote at the last minute? I was glued to CNN and they did not begin announcing any state wins until about 6pm and they did not announce Obama had won until 8pm.

Additionally, following this logic, you would have seen a similar turnout along the West Coast. Oregon's turnout was 84%.

http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_110408_oregon_presidential_election.17d4d933c.html

I'm just asking questions. I think we always need to ask lots of questions to protect our Democracy.

Oregon has one of the safest voting systems--because they are HAND COUNTED! Yes a state is still hand counting votes and it is by far the safest means possible.

I think these CA results at the very least call into question the use of voting and electronic scanning machines made w/ proprietary software, which can all be hacked. And most importantly which was created by Republican companies. All I want is to know that my vote really does count. I have not felt that why ever since California got all electronic. I personally think California should go back to the days of good 'ol fashion hand jobs.

Sponsored
Here's something you might be interested in.
Submit a free classified
or view all
Ask a Hipster — Advice you didn't know you needed Big Screen — Movie commentary Blurt — Music's inside track Booze News — San Diego spirits Classical Music — Immortal beauty Classifieds — Free and easy Close to Home — What it’s like on the street where you live Cover Stories — Front-page features Drinks All Around — Bartenders' drink recipes Excerpts — Literary and spiritual excerpts Feast! — Food & drink reviews Feature Stories — Local news & stories Fishing Report — What’s getting hooked from ship and shore From the Archives — Spotlight on the past Golden Dreams — Talk of the town The Gonzo Report — Making the musical scene, or at least reporting from it Letters — Our inbox Movies@Home — Local movie buffs share favorites Movie Reviews — Our critics' picks and pans Musician Interviews — Up close with local artists Neighborhood News from Stringers — Hyperlocal news News Ticker — News & politics Obermeyer — San Diego politics illustrated Outdoors — Weekly changes in flora and fauna Overheard in San Diego — Eavesdropping illustrated Poetry — The old and the new Reader Travel — Travel section built by travelers Reading — The hunt for intellectuals Roam-O-Rama — SoCal's best hiking/biking trails San Diego Beer — Inside San Diego suds SD on the QT — Almost factual news Sheep and Goats — Places of worship Special Issues — The best of Street Style — San Diego streets have style Surf Diego — Real stories from those braving the waves Theater — On stage in San Diego this week Tin Fork — Silver spoon alternative Under the Radar — Matt Potter's undercover work Unforgettable — Long-ago San Diego Unreal Estate — San Diego's priciest pads Your Week — Daily event picks
4S Ranch Allied Gardens Alpine Baja Balboa Park Bankers Hill Barrio Logan Bay Ho Bay Park Black Mountain Ranch Blossom Valley Bonita Bonsall Borrego Springs Boulevard Campo Cardiff-by-the-Sea Carlsbad Carmel Mountain Carmel Valley Chollas View Chula Vista City College City Heights Clairemont College Area Coronado CSU San Marcos Cuyamaca College Del Cerro Del Mar Descanso Downtown San Diego Eastlake East Village El Cajon Emerald Hills Encanto Encinitas Escondido Fallbrook Fletcher Hills Golden Hill Grant Hill Grantville Grossmont College Guatay Harbor Island Hillcrest Imperial Beach Imperial Valley Jacumba Jamacha-Lomita Jamul Julian Kearny Mesa Kensington La Jolla Lakeside La Mesa Lemon Grove Leucadia Liberty Station Lincoln Acres Lincoln Park Linda Vista Little Italy Logan Heights Mesa College Midway District MiraCosta College Miramar Miramar College Mira Mesa Mission Beach Mission Hills Mission Valley Mountain View Mount Hope Mount Laguna National City Nestor Normal Heights North Park Oak Park Ocean Beach Oceanside Old Town Otay Mesa Pacific Beach Pala Palomar College Palomar Mountain Paradise Hills Pauma Valley Pine Valley Point Loma Point Loma Nazarene Potrero Poway Rainbow Ramona Rancho Bernardo Rancho Penasquitos Rancho San Diego Rancho Santa Fe Rolando San Carlos San Marcos San Onofre Santa Ysabel Santee San Ysidro Scripps Ranch SDSU Serra Mesa Shelltown Shelter Island Sherman Heights Skyline Solana Beach Sorrento Valley Southcrest South Park Southwestern College Spring Valley Stockton Talmadge Temecula Tierrasanta Tijuana UCSD University City University Heights USD Valencia Park Valley Center Vista Warner Springs
Close

Anchor ads are not supported on this page.