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http://www.athleticscholarships.net/history-of-so… http://www.historyofsoccer.info/ http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Worlds-Most-Beloved… http://www.historyofsports.net/history_of_soccer.…— May 28, 2011 9:32 a.m.
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Obviuosly, you didn't bother to read my 7:07 pm comment. Some origins of soccer have been traced back to 1000 B.C. in japan. Do the math. I didn't say American football originated 300 yrs ago, I said football. The origins of American football come from rugby. An early form of Rugby was being played at least as far back as the late 1700's in an English boarding school named, oddly enough, The Rugby School. Again do the math.— May 27, 2011 8:45 p.m.
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Actually, there are no naming right fees being paid because Jerry Jones decided to keep the name as Dallas Couwboys Stadium. The problem with your figures is that the NFL put up $150 million and Arlington $325 million. And despite your "theory" that no one would lend it, Jerry Jones financed the other $825 million. I am not saying it will get done in this business climate, I have said I have my doubts that a stadium will ever be built, but apparently you have ignored that. But it had been done. Jerry Jones did it and so did the Giants/Jets at the New Meadowlands. Dispute it all you want but the stadiums are there.— May 27, 2011 8:35 p.m.
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"A state of the art new stadium would command $10-12 Mil. of annual rent" Yet that's not what either The Cowboys nor the Giant's/Jets pay. And in fact Tim Leiweke of AEG has said they are in fact using what Jerry Jones did as a model in their development. I can't quite figure out how it is that you think anything to do with an NFL stadium that cost $168 million and opened in 1998 is more relevant than 2 stadiums opened in the last 2 years. And BTW, according to Forbes, Tampa Bay pays less than $4 million a year in rent. Could it be that you keep using Tampa Bay is because owner, Malcolm Glazer, also owns Manchester United? Nah, just coincidence I'm sure.— May 27, 2011 8:26 p.m.
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Percano is one of a group of SD locals who were involved in the purchase of the Chargers with Baron Hilton. I am pretty certain the is still 1 more of those guys around, I just can't remember who. Perhaps I'm incorrect, but it doesn't really matter, does it; just a minor detail of no significance. It's nice that you can use google to look up info on AEG, something that my 6 yr old niece in San Diego can do. At least you didn't just do a cut and paste from their website. I'll give you credit for that. You forgot to mention the fact that the 100+ yr old stadium ManU plays in, Old Trafford, has had what, about $50-$100 million in upgrades end expansions in the past 20 yrs. In fact, aren't plans afoot to further expand the stadium so that it is bigger than Wemlbey. I think it's great that good, old stadiums get upgrades and remain in use. I have never seen a game at Wrigley Field, but would love to. And I love watching football at the Rose Bowl. We've been going for along time and as I said earlier, we enjoy it there every bit as much as we did at Cowboys Stadium, even more so in some ways. I have already said that I am really only a fan of soccer during WC and the Olympics, so I have no plans to watch. That "fantastic/legendary sports venue" you refer to, that would be the New Wembley Stadium, correct? You know, the one built on the site of the Old Wembley, and opened about 4 yrs ago, at a cost of only $1.57 billion? Yeah, been there, done that. The NFL has played there a couple of times. Both sellouts as I recall. Seems those Brits are willing to shell out the big bucks to watch a bunch of yanks play a bastardized version of rugby. And since soccer has been around almost 3000 years, and football maybe 300 yrs, that's hardly a fair comparison. Given that the that the first settlement in what is now London was almost 2000 yrs ago, it's not hard for one to imagine that some cultural and social activities in London are older and more popular than not just SD, but the whole country. My ancestors were farming in Ireland before North America was even "discovered", so what's your point? BTW, have you used you google skills to find those rent figures yet?— May 27, 2011 8:06 p.m.
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Actually, let me correct my self. Tim Leiweke of AEG did say a couple of months ago that AEG doesn't need to own an NFL team to start construction on the downtown stadium but aren't averse to an ownership role in whatever team moves to L.A. and AEG would consider partnering with Magic Johnson Casey Wasserman as local owners of an NFL team in L.A.— May 27, 2011 7:07 p.m.
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Here's a perfect example of the importance of market size. According to the NFL, in 2008, NFL telecasts had only a 7.2 household rating in Los Angeles,lowest of any major market. But because of the sheer size of the L.A. market, that 7.2 share represents more viewing households than New Orleans, Buffalo, Jacksonville and Kansas City COMBINED. I had do a little research on this, but according to Nielsen, the L.A. market had 5,654,264 tv households in that year. The equates to 407,104 households watching . By contrast, the SD market had only 1,066,680 tv households. Even if the SD market had the highest share, the 14.9% that NY has, there would be only 159,935 tv sets tuned to the NFL, barely 1/3 of the L.A. market— May 27, 2011 7 p.m.
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Actually, a copy of the entire lease agreement between the Cowboys and Arlington is readily available, complete with notarized signatures. Roski has been very specific about his ownership requirements. For example, he was quoted in an article in SI as saying that he "won't put a shovel into the soil until he is a full or majority owner of a team." That quote was widely circulated.— May 27, 2011 6:13 p.m.
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Don Bauder, I believe I read it in an LAT article right around Christmas. It was his 36%, the kids 15% each and the other 4% split between 2 other minority partners. I knew their names at one time, but have forgotten them. I do remember that the article specifically said the sale of any portion of papa's share was going to be for estate planning. Perhaps you can refresh my memory on another item. Isn't there a specific time frame every year that the Chargers have to get out of their lease? As I remember, literally all they (or someone else,new owners perhaps?)have to do is write a check? And the amount goes down each year if I remember correctly. Putting ownership and league approval issues aside, isn't it literally that easy for them to get out of their lease, simply give the proper notice during the proper time frame and write a check for the proper amount?— May 27, 2011 6:06 p.m.
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You are entitled to make up your own mind of course, but not your own facts. It's not my plan, it's just what has been published. I have neither read nor heard comments from either AEG or Majestic which involve anything other than at least partial ownership of the team that plays in the stadiums they want to build, and Ed Roski has gone as far as to say he wants majority ownership. In fact, both entities have said they will not build until they have secured their teams. BTW, I am still waiting for you to tell me how much rent the Cowboys/Giants/Jets pay under the terms of their respective leases, because they do both indeed pay rent.— May 27, 2011 5:24 p.m.