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Doing the Deed on a Pig Farm
That's what I'm talking about. It's circular logic. Some animals eat other animals, and they call that nature. Some animals eat people and they call that nature. And when people eat animals it's barbarianism? Fine, then call me Conan. Just let me finish my steak first.
— January 5, 2012 4:25 a.m.
The Stock Market Roller Coaster
"Children starve so Jeff can buy himself a new surfboard." I don't see it that way. I've known him for years. I don't have a stake in the markets, I don't see that as investment, I see it as a wager. I don't think anyone should get some automatic guarantee in that arena. And I don't think that walking into that arena is immoral. And I think that those who battle in the markets will succeed based on whatever level of genius they possess in that area. If I work for you and you drive an expensive Porsche in to the office every day, should I hate you for that? No! I should instead be proud that I work for someone who has the brains and the ability to run a successful company! Right? I am not responsible for so many hungry mouths on this planet. Neither are you. Neither is Jeff. I stopped mating many years ago, I have enough offspring on this planet. That is where our responsibility ends. Neither of us dictate that problem, and neither of us can solve it. You are a very smart man, Fred, I very much enjoy reading your responses in here. I hope you can come up with something less rhetorical in this particular discussion, I would look forward to that.
— January 3, 2012 5:32 a.m.
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Fred, I'm baffled. So, when you educate yourself in one particular area of interest, and I mean educate yourself to the point that you have vast knowledge about that area, more so than most folks, and you take advantage of that knowledge by turning a profit from it, it's immoral? Should we all, then, demand that we have equal knowledge of all things lest anyone be in the position to take advantage?
— January 2, 2012 11:34 p.m.
Doing the Deed on a Pig Farm
Hey, Chad, I just want to give you a big "thumbs-up" on this particular Crasher piece. It's the best in a very long time. I love to read print that is entirely polar, in that most folks go either one way or the other. Great find, great read, and great presentation. The quotes from Hank were incredibly dynamic, and the only thing I would have done differently would have been to lead with them. Awesome work, my man.
— January 1, 2012 9:56 p.m.
Doing the Deed on a Pig Farm
Hey, if you're not going to eat that bacon, can I have it?
— January 1, 2012 9:46 p.m.
The Stock Market Roller Coaster
Furillo would have slept with Hearst's wife, missed the event, written about it anyway, and won an award for the column. Furillo was a very gifted journalist ;)
— January 1, 2012 12:54 p.m.
Doing the Deed on a Pig Farm
If you see love as simple behavior, that's up to you. Certainly, that explains the current ratings of Jersey Shore. I'd go for something a tad more realistic. But how you feel about it, amigo, is completely up to you.
— January 1, 2012 10:35 a.m.
Doing the Deed on a Pig Farm
And for anyone playing along with this debate at home, I have a dog, or rather, we have a dog. His name is Simon. He is more of a puppy still, a poodle, very smart and very crafty so far as dogs go. He is always very happy to see me. I feed him a lot, and I pet him and it makes him happy. By default, since I am home most of the time, I spend a lot of time with him. Sometimes when the rest of the house is empty, he drags his bed upstairs and sleeps right outside of my bedroom door. If I am downstairs late at night and the rest of the house is asleep, he drags his bed downstairs and sleeps outside of my office door. This is not love. It is the dog's desire to know a stable environment. And to continue to want for it. Wild dogs do not exhibit such behavior. The key component in the argument is the term "love". We could all challenge ourselves to define this term, not based on an aesthetic quality like behavior, but the usual conclusion that is reached is that love is intangible. And I think there is much truth in that. And so, connecting the dots, I offer that animals have no comprehension or realization of anything that is intangible. And so, the logical completion of this equation is that animals cannot love. This doesn't imply, necessarily, that we SHOULD slaughter and eat animals, but rather, that the argument against such a practice would be better served leaving the concept of love out of the equation.
— December 31, 2011 10:39 p.m.
Doing the Deed on a Pig Farm
Oeconomist is one smart bastard, I've been following his blog for years. That's why I was surprised to see this particular response here, vegetarianism aside. He is calculating and precise to the point of being practically immaculate at times. The problem I have in keeping up with him, is that all good Economists seek to parry down behavior into equation. This is necessary and useful in economics, as most important Keynesian equations make presumptions based on behavior (consumption, reaction to stimulus, etc.) in order to either explain or predict. All of that aside, and I would have reached this point with him last night had I not fallen asleep in my chair here, is that animals are only capable of showing certain behaviors that we might possibly associate with love. It is using aesthetics in order to justify a position. It is a philosophical debate that has never really been adequately resolved, the Greeks struggled with it as well. It is always the first thing I think about when the debate concerning whether any real consideration could be given as to a possible "right" or "wrong" when it comes to eating meat, other than whatever nutritional benefits would be gained or lost, either way.
— December 31, 2011 8:56 p.m.
The Stock Market Roller Coaster
Getting back to the media aspect of sports, there have been many newspapers (and likely there still are) that sell more volume based on the performance by the Toy Department (the sports section, but I thought that Don would appreciate the reference) than by all other sections combined. One that comes to mind, now defunct, was the Los Angeles Herald-Examiner. That newspaper had the most outstanding sports section I've ever read. Much as a Chicago crime beat reporter would have done well to have first served time at the old Chicago City News, any sports journalist would have been lucky to have worked under the late great Sports Editor Bud "Steamer" Furillo at the L.A. Herald-Examiner.
— December 31, 2011 8:34 p.m.
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Doing the Deed on a Pig Farm
That's what I'm talking about. It's circular logic. Some animals eat other animals, and they call that nature. Some animals eat people and they call that nature. And when people eat animals it's barbarianism? Fine, then call me Conan. Just let me finish my steak first.— January 5, 2012 4:25 a.m.
The Stock Market Roller Coaster
"Children starve so Jeff can buy himself a new surfboard." I don't see it that way. I've known him for years. I don't have a stake in the markets, I don't see that as investment, I see it as a wager. I don't think anyone should get some automatic guarantee in that arena. And I don't think that walking into that arena is immoral. And I think that those who battle in the markets will succeed based on whatever level of genius they possess in that area. If I work for you and you drive an expensive Porsche in to the office every day, should I hate you for that? No! I should instead be proud that I work for someone who has the brains and the ability to run a successful company! Right? I am not responsible for so many hungry mouths on this planet. Neither are you. Neither is Jeff. I stopped mating many years ago, I have enough offspring on this planet. That is where our responsibility ends. Neither of us dictate that problem, and neither of us can solve it. You are a very smart man, Fred, I very much enjoy reading your responses in here. I hope you can come up with something less rhetorical in this particular discussion, I would look forward to that.— January 3, 2012 5:32 a.m.
The Stock Market Roller Coaster
Fred, I'm baffled. So, when you educate yourself in one particular area of interest, and I mean educate yourself to the point that you have vast knowledge about that area, more so than most folks, and you take advantage of that knowledge by turning a profit from it, it's immoral? Should we all, then, demand that we have equal knowledge of all things lest anyone be in the position to take advantage?— January 2, 2012 11:34 p.m.
Doing the Deed on a Pig Farm
Hey, Chad, I just want to give you a big "thumbs-up" on this particular Crasher piece. It's the best in a very long time. I love to read print that is entirely polar, in that most folks go either one way or the other. Great find, great read, and great presentation. The quotes from Hank were incredibly dynamic, and the only thing I would have done differently would have been to lead with them. Awesome work, my man.— January 1, 2012 9:56 p.m.
Doing the Deed on a Pig Farm
Hey, if you're not going to eat that bacon, can I have it?— January 1, 2012 9:46 p.m.
The Stock Market Roller Coaster
Furillo would have slept with Hearst's wife, missed the event, written about it anyway, and won an award for the column. Furillo was a very gifted journalist ;)— January 1, 2012 12:54 p.m.
Doing the Deed on a Pig Farm
If you see love as simple behavior, that's up to you. Certainly, that explains the current ratings of Jersey Shore. I'd go for something a tad more realistic. But how you feel about it, amigo, is completely up to you.— January 1, 2012 10:35 a.m.
Doing the Deed on a Pig Farm
And for anyone playing along with this debate at home, I have a dog, or rather, we have a dog. His name is Simon. He is more of a puppy still, a poodle, very smart and very crafty so far as dogs go. He is always very happy to see me. I feed him a lot, and I pet him and it makes him happy. By default, since I am home most of the time, I spend a lot of time with him. Sometimes when the rest of the house is empty, he drags his bed upstairs and sleeps right outside of my bedroom door. If I am downstairs late at night and the rest of the house is asleep, he drags his bed downstairs and sleeps outside of my office door. This is not love. It is the dog's desire to know a stable environment. And to continue to want for it. Wild dogs do not exhibit such behavior. The key component in the argument is the term "love". We could all challenge ourselves to define this term, not based on an aesthetic quality like behavior, but the usual conclusion that is reached is that love is intangible. And I think there is much truth in that. And so, connecting the dots, I offer that animals have no comprehension or realization of anything that is intangible. And so, the logical completion of this equation is that animals cannot love. This doesn't imply, necessarily, that we SHOULD slaughter and eat animals, but rather, that the argument against such a practice would be better served leaving the concept of love out of the equation.— December 31, 2011 10:39 p.m.
Doing the Deed on a Pig Farm
Oeconomist is one smart bastard, I've been following his blog for years. That's why I was surprised to see this particular response here, vegetarianism aside. He is calculating and precise to the point of being practically immaculate at times. The problem I have in keeping up with him, is that all good Economists seek to parry down behavior into equation. This is necessary and useful in economics, as most important Keynesian equations make presumptions based on behavior (consumption, reaction to stimulus, etc.) in order to either explain or predict. All of that aside, and I would have reached this point with him last night had I not fallen asleep in my chair here, is that animals are only capable of showing certain behaviors that we might possibly associate with love. It is using aesthetics in order to justify a position. It is a philosophical debate that has never really been adequately resolved, the Greeks struggled with it as well. It is always the first thing I think about when the debate concerning whether any real consideration could be given as to a possible "right" or "wrong" when it comes to eating meat, other than whatever nutritional benefits would be gained or lost, either way.— December 31, 2011 8:56 p.m.
The Stock Market Roller Coaster
Getting back to the media aspect of sports, there have been many newspapers (and likely there still are) that sell more volume based on the performance by the Toy Department (the sports section, but I thought that Don would appreciate the reference) than by all other sections combined. One that comes to mind, now defunct, was the Los Angeles Herald-Examiner. That newspaper had the most outstanding sports section I've ever read. Much as a Chicago crime beat reporter would have done well to have first served time at the old Chicago City News, any sports journalist would have been lucky to have worked under the late great Sports Editor Bud "Steamer" Furillo at the L.A. Herald-Examiner.— December 31, 2011 8:34 p.m.