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Junk Talk
Refried...you're an inhumane bastard FOR eating meat. I'm sure in other aspects of life, you're very compassionate. ; )— April 16, 2009 8:51 p.m.
Junk Talk
Do you know where vaginas, I mean ribs come from? I mean...oh nevermind.— April 15, 2009 6:59 p.m.
Happy Tummy
OK Josh... I'm a vegan, an atheist and... a major Beatles fan! You can't just leave it at that. Please spill the (lard free) beans!!!— April 14, 2009 7:57 p.m.
Happy Tummy
Josh, I appreciate you sticking up for the "other side" in the meat debate and I have a feeling your sister is right in her facts whatever they may be. Especially regarding KFC. (Evil!) But speaking as an atheist, and maybe I misunderstood you, my problem is not that individuals come up and preach to me but the total seepage of religion into the culture, taking over politics, keeping gays from marrying (and I'm straight for the record), and causing so much trouble in the world (religious fanaticism and weaponry...what a combination huh?)and yet I'm the one who supposedly has no morals because I refuse to believe in the invisible man in the sky? It's a total societal preaching, subtle and not so subtle. Atheists are rated lower than criminals in the court of public opinion. And people who feel the world is going to hell because there's not ENOUGH religion out there? Those damn atheists getting their way all the time? Let's put prayer back in school? Please. Yeah I get a little touchy about it and maybe the believers don't notice it as much because they don't see the problem. So as a vegan atheist I have less of a chance at being elected president than Manson. (Chuck or Marilyn). But I've learned to adjust and not break down at the sight of every church or Burger King. So I don't go around preaching veganism or atheism unless the subject comes up and then I don't back down because I believe I have firm factual footing in both cases. But thanks again.— April 14, 2009 1:37 a.m.
Happy Tummy
Oliviam, Speaking only for myself, I believe that of the militant vegans, 1.33% of them are actually crazy while 6.9% could be classified as disturbed. I fall on the borderline somewhere. However, 100% of all meat eaters support the meat industry. And my research shows that 15% feel bad about it, 10% don't know (mostly children)and the rest don't care. And I'm just waiting for someone to actually stand up for the meat industry. Call me crazy but I feel we could actually have a better more compassionate world if people gave up or at least cut down their meat intake. And I'm actually sad about the fact that it won't happen. So let's not worry about who threw blood on whose fur. And maybe Barbarella could post a video on her page of her friend's pig being slaughtered and then herself and David and whoever else sitting around the table orgasmically enjoying the yummy pig meat. Maybe have quick shots going back and forth between the two like a hip indie movie. Yeah, happy tummies all around.— April 14, 2009 12:11 a.m.
Happy Tummy
I would post again but me and my militant vegan posse are going to hijack the meat counter at Ralph's. Oh wait, nevermind.— April 13, 2009 7:24 p.m.
Happy Tummy
Yes babs I'm judgmental on this subject. We're posting after all. It's called opinions. And you started the ball rolling. But besides my opinions I've also stated facts (gasp!) on which my opinions are based. See how it works. And I'll have you know that I have never gone up to a stranger and preach nor would I. So you can't cite me as an example on which you based your column. Sorry dear. And I frequently walk by the meat counter with nary a glance at the meat lovers. But I wish I had a dime for every time I got a preachy reaction from people who found out I was a vegan. (Right after the do you eat chicken or fish question). Besides, I bet you never glared at anybody for any reason. And by the way I'm also an atheist. You should hear my thoughts on religion!— April 12, 2009 10:43 p.m.
Happy Tummy
I don't know if your choices are "wrong" Barb. Is kicking an animal wrong? I would say yes, maybe you'd say no. Can we agree that it's cruel? Is driving a Hummer wrong? Can we agree that it isn't good for the planet? If you saw someone finish a can of soda and then just toss it in the street would you glare at them? The bottom line is if you eat meat you're supporting a cruel and very environment unfriendly industry. And yes that's your choice. I think it's the wrong choice and one that's very hard to defend other than you're free to eat meat and tough boobies because you're a diva, a free spirit, and darn it you do what you want! But I promise not to come up to you at the Whole Foods meat counter and lecture you. But if you see someone glaring, it might be me.— April 12, 2009 8:20 p.m.
Happy Tummy
I draw the line at marrying pets. The pets have no say. And if that makes me less liberal than you then so be it. I'm also against the death penalty and for the option of assisted suicide if one desires (with some caveats in place.) I don't see a conflict there. And obviously, people have the right to eat meat and do so by the ton. But let's not deny the consequences of the meat, dairy and seafood industry to the environment and to the millions of animals who feel the same pain as you and I. And to suggest a plant based diet is in any way on the same scale is absurd. Remember...every energy saving light bulb you install is offset by every hamburger you eat. Them's just the facts. And I'll just leave it at that. Hope you got some of my points. Peace— April 11, 2009 6:37 p.m.
Happy Tummy
Refried...you care too much about animals to keep one captive as a pet? But have no problem having millions of them captive before being led to slaughter? Huh? And the argument that there may be animal products used to grow plants and vegetables is weak. There are slaughterhouse by-products in the tires of my car and in the glue in my non leather running shoes. It may indeed be impossible to escape completely. So therefore I should what? Have my three squares at McD's everyday? And for the record I am a vegan. I know that the dairy industry isn't much better than the meat industry. And humans certainly don't need to drink cow's milk. It's actually not very healthy. And since you asked, I'm pro-choice. I don't know anyone who is pro-abortion. Although in some cases abortion might be the way to go. Bush and Cheney's mothers should have given it some thought. I don't like the idea of abortion but I can't see the government getting involved in it except to provide easy access to contraception. The problem with pro lifers is they're against abortion AND against any kind of sex education. Their just say no until marriage approach is unrealistic. I don't see a conflict between allowing a woman to decide her sexual reproduction choices and not wanting to see animals slaughtered wholesale by the millions simply to satisfy people's desire for hamburgers and fried chicken. I happen to be an extremely liberal person who is for gay marriage and the legalization and regulation of drugs and prostitution for example. I believe an adult should be able to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't harm other beings be they human or animal. That's the "unrealistic" line I draw for my own morals.— April 11, 2009 12:33 a.m.