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Dark Shadows 1970 - 2012: Reboots Don't HAVE To Suck, Mr. Burton!
Yesterday, there were at least three fan-made "New Dark Shadows" trailers on YouTube featuring the (rather good) first minute of the Burton/Depp trailer, along with scenes from the original show, the two DS movies, the '90s revival, and one even threw in some wintery Edward Scissorhands shots. But all vanished today, presumably pulled over ownership issues. Pity. All three were FAR better than the official trailer.
— March 21, 2012 7:59 p.m.
Walking Dead Season 2: More To Hate, Enough To Love?
Yeah, but I watch it on a Big Screen! And I gotta give the show props for a second feature film-worthy season finale, even if I feel like I wasted enough time GETTING there that I coulda watched at least five Larry Cohen movies insteada the walking deadheads puttering around Herschell's farm and playing Green(skin) Acres...
— March 21, 2012 7:54 p.m.
The Trailer for
Dark Shadows
is...
*Sigh*
...Here.
Seems like the Depp/Burton trailer has turned more people AWAY from wanting to see the movie than pre-selling tix. Same has been oft-mentioned about the John Carter trailer, which bears almost no resemblance to the actual flick. What has happened to the art of advance trailer-ing a movie? The last one I recall that got me excited to see a film was Watchmen. And before that, Grindhouse. Somebody needs to go out and hire all those old Amicus and AIP guys who made such great trailers for Harry Novak, Roger Corman, Herschell Gordon Lewis, Russ Meyer, et al, to train these clueless "marketing" companies who so utterly fail to serve either "sizzle OR steak" (to paraphrase from Sell-meister General Dave Friedman) --
— March 20, 2012 11:30 p.m.
Go Outside with the Cults
You make excellent points. I suspect the director thought that, among so many modern tragedies that happened in front of cameras, the folks at the People's Temple are held in the public eye as far less culpable for their own ultimate fall than, say, David Koresh's followers, or those under Warren Jeffs' spell, who are accused of doing far more insidious things than singing Guyanan cumbayas and forming drum circles. However, even tho the Jonestown fallen seem to looked at more sympathetically than most members of CULTS (the band's ham-handed groan-worthy cutline behind this video's existence), I agree that it crosses a line to literally twist the images to suit (and SELL) a song. A line of good and paste taste at the very least --
— March 20, 2012 10:18 p.m.
Dark Shadows 1970 - 2012: Reboots Don't HAVE To Suck, Mr. Burton!
Okay, I'll confess I skipped the first few years of DS and felt the same as Mr. Marks - the minute I heard the DS music start and saw the waves crashing onscreen, I'd get the frid outta there (sher, sometimes for the Match Game, which I sometimes watch now as creaky 70s reruns on the Game Show network). It wasn't until I accidentally stumbled into a later Shadows ep with Quentin werewolfing out that I quit turning the station knob (remember those??) and watched the show. So I was a late convert. But I remain hooked to this day ---
— March 20, 2012 7:33 p.m.
Quentin Collins Writes Books
Interesting, I didn't know about these! I wonder if he's done or is planning any of his books "on tape" (tho I imagine those are all on CD or downloaded now). He's one of the few original cast members whose voice hasn't been somewhat ravaged over the ensuing 40 years. Last night, I dug out the CD reissue of the original DS soundtrack album from the early 70s, which had Selby and Frid reading classic poetry in parts. To my surprise, there were two lengthy "bonus tracks" I never noticed before, one a radio interview with Selby and another radio interview with several cast members, done just as filming on House of Dark Shadows was about to start. What was funny was that they ALL sounded stoned! Even Grayson Hall/Julia was giggling and cracking jokes, and the actors who played "Adam" and warlock Nicolas Blair were practically doing an Abbott and Costello routine. Even when the "horror" show was at its highest peak, the cast seemed WELL aware of the (dark) humor and (high) camp that helped make the show so popular. WithOUT having to drop a disco ball on Barnabas ala Tim Burton's DS trailer...
— March 20, 2012 4:40 p.m.
Dark Shadows 1970 - 2012: Reboots Don't HAVE To Suck, Mr. Burton!
I kin diggit, but the original Dark Shadows show is about as much a soap opera as the Indiana Jones films are a Saturday morning serial. IE the starting point may have already been a cliche before the creators were born, but the take on a tired old genre turns soup broth to Mulligan Stew. Lots of disparate ingredients to make up something quite different indeed!
— March 20, 2012 4:31 p.m.
Dark Shadows 1970 - 2012: Reboots Don't HAVE To Suck, Mr. Burton!
There are a bunch of DS bloopers on YouTube, probably including Quentin's spit-bridge kiss! The Julia Hoffman character seemed most prone to forgetting her lines, but the CREW screwups are often the funniest. There's even one episode where a janitor can be seen sweeping the Collinwood stairs as the credits roll! One of my fave bloopers is when Barnabas is trying to give an earnest speech while a big huge mutha fly keeps fluttering around his face and landing on it! He strives so mightily to keep his cool that it's admirable, and he never really acknowledges it, other than a lot of hysterical tickly-twitching. I woulda slapped that thing dead on the bridge of my nose if need be --
— March 20, 2012 1:40 a.m.
What Do YOU Think? Does the Walking Dead Stink, Or ?
It's been a good season two. Especially when compared to the lumbering first season, many aspects of which I simply have to ignore if I'm to enjoy the current storyline(s). That said, even tho I've watched every episode this season (and actually WATCHED them, as opposed to running the TV in the background while I work), I still can't make sense of some stuff. Such as: After the Shane/Rick brawl that left Shane battling walkers from inside the bus, he appeared to use the SAME knife that he used to skewer a walker's skull to then cut his arm and draw blood to attract walkers to the bus doorway. If a mere bite turns you, shouldn't using your knife to be "blood brothers" with a walker also turn you? SPOILER ALERT: If the dual-use knife WAS partly behind Shane going all feral and huffy-puffy BEFORE Rick shot him, days later (unstated, but possible), WTF took so long for the walker blood in his system to kick in? And who the frak died last night?! [MORE SPOILERS] I barely remember either of the characters killed - one of the daughters had a boyfriend? Okay, he almost never had lines, so kill him. But who was the woman who got eaten? They seemed to be saying it was Herschell's wife, but I thought she was already a walker and had been living in the barn (up until the barnwalker massacre anyway). It's as if they just wanted to kill SOMEBODY in the season finale, and pulled these hardly seen characters out of the mist, just to be walker food. And has the black guy EVER had more than five sentences of dialogue (TOTAL!) this season? What is this, Ghostbusters???? As for the [SPOILER ALERT] CDC scientist whispering something (that we couldn't hear) in Rick's ear last season, and the reveal last night that he told Rick "Everyone's already infected," I don't believe for a moment that the writers knew WHAT CDC guy said in season one until they were mostly done with season two. The "everybody turns when they die" angle was never so much as HINTED until just before the season two finale, when they found the two dead cops with no apparent bites. The writerS were laugh-out-loud obvious about making sure we all noticed this sudden abrupt "surprise" by repeatedly mentioning it (via character dialogue) over the last coupla eps this season. The writers have admitted they're making things up as they go along, to keep the TV show different from the comics (which are apparently up to around 100 issues now). It sure shows when they take such sharp left turns into "where the hell did THAT come from?!"
— March 19, 2012 10:25 p.m.
The Trailer for
Dark Shadows
is...
*Sigh*
...Here.
I don't know WHAT to make of this - attempting to kill Barnabas with a disco ball?! I love the colors, and the trailer LOOKS great, at least the first minute or so. The rest is better with the sound turned down. I hope the actual film isn't so heavy on the campy comedy (a little goes a long way with this kinda material) - The shots of Collinwood and the Collinsport wharf were stunningly evocative of the original series, but I really hope the film itself has a much more balanced ratio of gothic soap VS caustic dope. The original actress who played Angelique, Lara Parker, wrote a couple of DS novels, and the second one, Salem Branch, had a bit of the same mocking-the-70s tone, with Barnabas hooking up with a tribe of hippies camped near Collinwood and screwing a hippie chick in a tent. A hippie chick who looked a lot like Angelique. And some other high-camp silliness involving a trip to Salem MA - Burton seems to taking a similarly irreverent approach.
— March 19, 2012 5:37 p.m.
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Dark Shadows 1970 - 2012: Reboots Don't HAVE To Suck, Mr. Burton!
Yesterday, there were at least three fan-made "New Dark Shadows" trailers on YouTube featuring the (rather good) first minute of the Burton/Depp trailer, along with scenes from the original show, the two DS movies, the '90s revival, and one even threw in some wintery Edward Scissorhands shots. But all vanished today, presumably pulled over ownership issues. Pity. All three were FAR better than the official trailer.— March 21, 2012 7:59 p.m.
Walking Dead Season 2: More To Hate, Enough To Love?
Yeah, but I watch it on a Big Screen! And I gotta give the show props for a second feature film-worthy season finale, even if I feel like I wasted enough time GETTING there that I coulda watched at least five Larry Cohen movies insteada the walking deadheads puttering around Herschell's farm and playing Green(skin) Acres...— March 21, 2012 7:54 p.m.
The Trailer for Dark Shadows is...*Sigh*...Here.
Seems like the Depp/Burton trailer has turned more people AWAY from wanting to see the movie than pre-selling tix. Same has been oft-mentioned about the John Carter trailer, which bears almost no resemblance to the actual flick. What has happened to the art of advance trailer-ing a movie? The last one I recall that got me excited to see a film was Watchmen. And before that, Grindhouse. Somebody needs to go out and hire all those old Amicus and AIP guys who made such great trailers for Harry Novak, Roger Corman, Herschell Gordon Lewis, Russ Meyer, et al, to train these clueless "marketing" companies who so utterly fail to serve either "sizzle OR steak" (to paraphrase from Sell-meister General Dave Friedman) --— March 20, 2012 11:30 p.m.
Go Outside with the Cults
You make excellent points. I suspect the director thought that, among so many modern tragedies that happened in front of cameras, the folks at the People's Temple are held in the public eye as far less culpable for their own ultimate fall than, say, David Koresh's followers, or those under Warren Jeffs' spell, who are accused of doing far more insidious things than singing Guyanan cumbayas and forming drum circles. However, even tho the Jonestown fallen seem to looked at more sympathetically than most members of CULTS (the band's ham-handed groan-worthy cutline behind this video's existence), I agree that it crosses a line to literally twist the images to suit (and SELL) a song. A line of good and paste taste at the very least --— March 20, 2012 10:18 p.m.
Dark Shadows 1970 - 2012: Reboots Don't HAVE To Suck, Mr. Burton!
Okay, I'll confess I skipped the first few years of DS and felt the same as Mr. Marks - the minute I heard the DS music start and saw the waves crashing onscreen, I'd get the frid outta there (sher, sometimes for the Match Game, which I sometimes watch now as creaky 70s reruns on the Game Show network). It wasn't until I accidentally stumbled into a later Shadows ep with Quentin werewolfing out that I quit turning the station knob (remember those??) and watched the show. So I was a late convert. But I remain hooked to this day ---— March 20, 2012 7:33 p.m.
Quentin Collins Writes Books
Interesting, I didn't know about these! I wonder if he's done or is planning any of his books "on tape" (tho I imagine those are all on CD or downloaded now). He's one of the few original cast members whose voice hasn't been somewhat ravaged over the ensuing 40 years. Last night, I dug out the CD reissue of the original DS soundtrack album from the early 70s, which had Selby and Frid reading classic poetry in parts. To my surprise, there were two lengthy "bonus tracks" I never noticed before, one a radio interview with Selby and another radio interview with several cast members, done just as filming on House of Dark Shadows was about to start. What was funny was that they ALL sounded stoned! Even Grayson Hall/Julia was giggling and cracking jokes, and the actors who played "Adam" and warlock Nicolas Blair were practically doing an Abbott and Costello routine. Even when the "horror" show was at its highest peak, the cast seemed WELL aware of the (dark) humor and (high) camp that helped make the show so popular. WithOUT having to drop a disco ball on Barnabas ala Tim Burton's DS trailer...— March 20, 2012 4:40 p.m.
Dark Shadows 1970 - 2012: Reboots Don't HAVE To Suck, Mr. Burton!
I kin diggit, but the original Dark Shadows show is about as much a soap opera as the Indiana Jones films are a Saturday morning serial. IE the starting point may have already been a cliche before the creators were born, but the take on a tired old genre turns soup broth to Mulligan Stew. Lots of disparate ingredients to make up something quite different indeed!— March 20, 2012 4:31 p.m.
Dark Shadows 1970 - 2012: Reboots Don't HAVE To Suck, Mr. Burton!
There are a bunch of DS bloopers on YouTube, probably including Quentin's spit-bridge kiss! The Julia Hoffman character seemed most prone to forgetting her lines, but the CREW screwups are often the funniest. There's even one episode where a janitor can be seen sweeping the Collinwood stairs as the credits roll! One of my fave bloopers is when Barnabas is trying to give an earnest speech while a big huge mutha fly keeps fluttering around his face and landing on it! He strives so mightily to keep his cool that it's admirable, and he never really acknowledges it, other than a lot of hysterical tickly-twitching. I woulda slapped that thing dead on the bridge of my nose if need be --— March 20, 2012 1:40 a.m.
What Do YOU Think? Does the Walking Dead Stink, Or ?
It's been a good season two. Especially when compared to the lumbering first season, many aspects of which I simply have to ignore if I'm to enjoy the current storyline(s). That said, even tho I've watched every episode this season (and actually WATCHED them, as opposed to running the TV in the background while I work), I still can't make sense of some stuff. Such as: After the Shane/Rick brawl that left Shane battling walkers from inside the bus, he appeared to use the SAME knife that he used to skewer a walker's skull to then cut his arm and draw blood to attract walkers to the bus doorway. If a mere bite turns you, shouldn't using your knife to be "blood brothers" with a walker also turn you? SPOILER ALERT: If the dual-use knife WAS partly behind Shane going all feral and huffy-puffy BEFORE Rick shot him, days later (unstated, but possible), WTF took so long for the walker blood in his system to kick in? And who the frak died last night?! [MORE SPOILERS] I barely remember either of the characters killed - one of the daughters had a boyfriend? Okay, he almost never had lines, so kill him. But who was the woman who got eaten? They seemed to be saying it was Herschell's wife, but I thought she was already a walker and had been living in the barn (up until the barnwalker massacre anyway). It's as if they just wanted to kill SOMEBODY in the season finale, and pulled these hardly seen characters out of the mist, just to be walker food. And has the black guy EVER had more than five sentences of dialogue (TOTAL!) this season? What is this, Ghostbusters???? As for the [SPOILER ALERT] CDC scientist whispering something (that we couldn't hear) in Rick's ear last season, and the reveal last night that he told Rick "Everyone's already infected," I don't believe for a moment that the writers knew WHAT CDC guy said in season one until they were mostly done with season two. The "everybody turns when they die" angle was never so much as HINTED until just before the season two finale, when they found the two dead cops with no apparent bites. The writerS were laugh-out-loud obvious about making sure we all noticed this sudden abrupt "surprise" by repeatedly mentioning it (via character dialogue) over the last coupla eps this season. The writers have admitted they're making things up as they go along, to keep the TV show different from the comics (which are apparently up to around 100 issues now). It sure shows when they take such sharp left turns into "where the hell did THAT come from?!"— March 19, 2012 10:25 p.m.
The Trailer for Dark Shadows is...*Sigh*...Here.
I don't know WHAT to make of this - attempting to kill Barnabas with a disco ball?! I love the colors, and the trailer LOOKS great, at least the first minute or so. The rest is better with the sound turned down. I hope the actual film isn't so heavy on the campy comedy (a little goes a long way with this kinda material) - The shots of Collinwood and the Collinsport wharf were stunningly evocative of the original series, but I really hope the film itself has a much more balanced ratio of gothic soap VS caustic dope. The original actress who played Angelique, Lara Parker, wrote a couple of DS novels, and the second one, Salem Branch, had a bit of the same mocking-the-70s tone, with Barnabas hooking up with a tribe of hippies camped near Collinwood and screwing a hippie chick in a tent. A hippie chick who looked a lot like Angelique. And some other high-camp silliness involving a trip to Salem MA - Burton seems to taking a similarly irreverent approach.— March 19, 2012 5:37 p.m.