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San Diego City Employees pension fund ailing
JV, STOP. You're the guys that misquotes JF. YOU BUDDY! Your pathetic misdirection attempt at deriding my education is equally as embarrassing. Yet, you claim to be in the top 1 percent? Of what I wonder. Between your and Fred's claims of superiority, without any provocation, well, let me just say, it makes me wonder.— January 6, 2009 1:29 p.m.
San Diego City Employees pension fund ailing
Hey JV On this statement, Hey Einstein, millions of jobs require interaction with the public. Virtully ALL retail and sales jobs require interaction with the public- and these types of jobs produce a far more public service oriented employee than a cop does- and are 100 times better at it- but they are not making $200K per year now are they. those service folk you're referring to - they aren't asked to detain bad people now are they? Cheesy Try JV— January 6, 2009 1:23 p.m.
San Diego City Employees pension fund ailing
Fred, i believe that the majority of Americans with disagree with your assessment. But please accept JF's challenge. Put you money were your mouth is. This, "i was in the navy and I know better " is a load of bull. Fred, there are a ton of ex-navy folks employed by fire departments, many still serving in a reserve capacity to boot. The devaluing is absurd. Just once, ONCE, would I like too see those that undercut a firefighters job simply take the challenge. BTW, FRED!, have you ever even submitted an application for a municipal fire or PD job? Or, is all your ranting, like this beauty below, just conjecture? By Fred "What is difficult is navigating the system to ever be hired as a firefighter in the first place. There are hundreds, if not thousands of people in San Diego who could do this work -- especially Navy vets who underwent at-sea firefighting training. But the extraneous requirements and politicization of the work prevents them from joining the department." I'm betting its the later. Fred, you amaze me. Your denigrations are a shot across the bow, then you criticize those that disagree. Their reply to you, "if its so simple, go get a fire job". To which you provide a rebuttal that gives the appearance thats "its impossible because us navy folk are pushed out the door." Hmm. Take the challenge! I'll ask my navy seal turned firefighter buddy what he thinks about the "getting hired by the FD difficulty. My old man.. seems to think you exaggerate and over dramatize your claims about navy service. But hey, what does a vietnam vet and 30 year career master chief with 13 west-pacs on 6 ships including carriers, know?— January 6, 2009 12:50 p.m.
San Diego City Employees pension fund ailing
JV's statement "NO cop has a JD at HIRE", makes me scratch my head. Where did JF state that. He said "some officers obtain a JD while employed". Additionally, the City personnel department is the group charged with hiring based on recommendation from the agencies conducting the interview/testing. That's why is called a "personnel department". JV's rage has blinded him to rational debate. For his part, anything that is said that is favorable to the opinion he opposes is considered a fabrication. It's just too obvious. The sophomoric name calling is further evidence of his out and out detest. Which makes this all the more humorous. I love reading his responses as his augers in. On the topic of volunteers, are you serious to think that a major metropolitan city, in this case the 8th largest in the US, can support a public safety service based on a volunteers availability. More meat for the grinder. The point is moot on its face. The fact is it WILL NEVER HAPPEN. No matter how much you try to justify it, a volunteer department is a logistical, as well as, a political impossibility. But, just for entertainment value, how do you envision this volunteer program to run JV? Furthermore, what have you done, other than spew vitriol on blogs and forums to make this volunteer program happen? I thought so. Talk is cheap. As for you Mr. Bauder, you are no better than the UT in your bias. Response to post #123: Good point. JF might come back with his numbers. Best, Don Bauder Where's your research in the hiring practices of the FD as you cast your dispersions as readily as the UT. Your transparent tennis match spectator and debate moderator followed up with single sentence replies as tired as JV's parroting. Do you own research. I'd expect better from the press.— January 6, 2009 10:08 a.m.