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John Moores sinks Padres pay to number 29 of 30 teams

Gringo, Of course you are correct about big pay back in the day. As I recall, alot of the money Grange made was based receiving a percentage of the gate along with his salary. I looked up a quote that I read once that I think is cool: I was interviewing George Halas and I asked him who is the greatest running back you ever saw. And he said, 'That would be Red Grange.' And I asked him if Grange was playing today, how many yards do you think he'd gain. And he said, 'About 750, maybe 800 yards.' And I said, 'Well, 800 yards is just okay.' He sat up in his chair and he said, 'Son, you must remember one thing. Red Grange is 75 years old.' But salaries like those of Ruth and Grange were the exception, not the rule. If one were to go back and look, many, if not most teams in that era had a highly paid player or 2. But I was refering to Don's post about the high salaries today, for all players, comparing them to the salaries of players during the time when their teams literally owned them as players. In 1960 the average MLB player madeless that 20k; in 1970 it was still only about 30k. Ten years later it was about 150k and in 1990 it was over 1/2 million. Today, I believe its north of 3 million as an AVERAGE and the MINIMUM is over 300k. Salaries would absolutely never have increased that much were the old "rules" in affect. My point is/was that there were the "exceptional" players like a Koufax, Drysdale/ Ruth,Grange, Dimaggio, et al, who could get that kind of money because they were an integral part of both the teams success and popularity. But until things changed in the sixties, they were only ones. But now players get the best deal they can becuses they don't face the same restrictions. One only needs to look at Brette Favre and Michael Vick to see how much the "rules" have changed.
— September 1, 2009 5:34 p.m.

John Moores sinks Padres pay to number 29 of 30 teams

Don, back in the early days of the NFL up to probably the mid sixties, players didn't get rich playing football. The owners might have but the players didn't.It's over simplifying but basically Al Davis and the other AFL owners started going after the NFL players throwning tons of money at them, like Joe Namath's 400k contract. As a result, the NFL approached the AFL and the merger happened. AD didn't want it because he thought he could knock the NFL out of the game. But up until about that time, all but the very elite players worked in the off season at regular jobs to be able to support themselves. The same for baseball. Until Curt Flood challenged MLB's reserve clause, players were basically nothing more than indentured servants to there teams. They had 2 choices; play for what their team offered ( and go thru it again every year because there were no multi year contracts) or refuse to sign, don't play and don't get paid.Unless your names happen to be Drysdale and Koufax. In 1966 Willie Mays was the highest paid baseball player at about 125k. Drysdale and Koufax held out, demanded a 3yr, 1 million contract split equally between them over 3 years. That's about 160k each and the Dodgers finally ended giving Koufax the same as Mays and Drysdale a little less. So the era of big bucks started in pro football and mlb at about the same time. Of course with lawyers getting involved as agents, I think Koufax and Drysdale were the first, the propogation of big bucks contracts began. Of course you can blame the players, but the fact is had the owners not treated the players as a commodity to used and discarded as they pleased, I don't think things would have gotten quite so out of hand, like paying Kevin Brown 107 million 10 years ago. It's kind of like not allowing your kids to eat candy and then taking them to a candy store, throwing open the door and telling them to have at it. You just know it's going to get out of control.
— September 1, 2009 1:42 p.m.

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