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But will there be enough water for One Paseo?
don bauder Right. Being a native of Arizona, I am keenly aware of the phenomenon.The process thru which rainfall returns to the atmosphere is called evapotranspiration. Evapotranspiration is moisture that returns to the atmosphere thru either green water, which is the water flow that is the productive portion of this consumptive use which drives plant growth, or thru white water, which is is non-productive evaporation from the land surface. Both of these occur after the rainfall has ceased. But that's not what I am referring to. Nor was I referring to rainwater collection systems. I specifically referred to storm water, as in storm water runoff. That would be the excess water that the ground is unable to absorb, whether it be for natural or man made reason and is not captured and ends up running into storm drains, etc. And yes, it seems like a waste to see all of that water end up in the ocean. But the absurdity of the guys comment is this: Where's that water going to go instead, and how's it going to get there. Think about that for a moment. The most contemporary example I can use is the Los Angeles river. The maximum flow of the LA river is 129k cu ft/s. If my math is correct, that would be almost 1 million gallons per second. That's 3.6 billion gallons per hour. So again how are we going to move that much water, where is it going to go to be held, but more importantly, how much more land will we have to tear up to get it there and hold it. Oh yeah, and how is going to be paid for. Up here, they are talking about $5 BILLION just to extend a freeway, the 710, a mere FIVE MILES. I can't even begin to imagine how much it would cost to build such a system to capture flood waters for retention. It's kinda like everyone who thinks we should be able just to lay some pipes and bring the extra water from back east out west. Sure. Fine. Do a little research on exactly how it could be done, how long it would take and how big a check someones going to have to write, and who that someone is. Then we can talk...about how dumb an idea it is.— April 9, 2015 11:51 a.m.
Reduce water…and continue building? Huh?
don bauder. When you say "going downhill mentally" that's really an obstruse statement. I think cognitive function is a much more definable term. I depends on what function you refer to, and, to a larg degree, which study you read. Not too long ago, I read a Harvard study which concluded that different mental abilities peak at different times of life, from age 18 to all the 70+ years. It involved nearly 50K subjects and the results showed that some abilities do peak and begin to decline around high school graduation, some abilities plateau in early adulthood, beginning to decline in subjects’ 30s; and still others do not peak until subjects reach their 40s or later. For example, mental agility appears to peak around age 18. Visual working memory seems to peak at about age 25. But the ability to identify other people’s emotions peaks somewhere between ages 40 to 60 and vocabulary ability peaks in the late 60s -early 70s. Their conclusion was that it seems that at a given age, you’re getting better at some things, you’re getting worse at some other things, and you’re at a plateau at some other things.— April 9, 2015 7:36 a.m.
But will there be enough water for One Paseo?
I read one of the funniest things I've seen in a while when I read the LAT article. Of course, the environmental extremists are up in arms saying, of course, that there are other alternatives. One of them suggested that capturing storm water should be tried first. Now don't get me wrong. I've been a member of the Surfrider Foundation and a couple of others for a long time. I've been surfing for almost 40 yr. I understand the need to protect the environment and the ocean in particular. And I know it's been 30+ yrs since I graduated from college. But don't you actually need rain storms to have storm water to capture?— April 9, 2015 7:11 a.m.
But will there be enough water for One Paseo?
The good news is that Santa Barbara has a plant already built and should ready to award a construction contract as early as this month. The bad news is since desalination technology has changed considerably over the past two decades and because they sold off the reverse osmosis filters to Saudi Arabia It's going to cost $53 million, including interest, to restart the plant and it will be at least fall of 2016 before a water supply from the plant. Of course, the water rates will be raised about 26% to pay for the loan over ten years and then there are the inevitable rate increases for the $2.5 million to $5 million per year in operating costs, depending on whether they decide to keep the plant running at full production or put it in standby ready-state mode. This will get them about 3125 AFY of water, which is about 2.7 million gallons per day.— April 9, 2015 6:57 a.m.
Plainly constitutional
don bauder Companies can indeed speak. Whose hand do you think it is that is controlling the mouths of the puppet politicians?— April 8, 2015 9:09 a.m.
Reduce water…and continue building? Huh?
shirleyberan, Two of the rental properties I have are condos in Dana Point. My wife and I bought them in 1994. The HOA fees are exactly the same today as when we bought them. And in all that time, there has never been a problem withe the HOA rules, at least as far as I'm concerned. In fact, the only time anyone from the HOA has called with what they even perceived was an issue was probably 15 yrs ago at least. Someone had expressed concern at a pot one of our tenant had on her balcony railing, afraid that it might fall or get knocked off, and hit someone. I called our tenant and she explained that it was a 2 piece plastic pot where the pot snapped into the base. She said she has secured the pot base to the corner pole of the railing with a couple of screws, snapped the put in and then secured the pot to the base with a couple of screws, just to make sure. I let the HOA know about it and my tenant even had them come up and look at it. Not only did they say it was not a problem, but in the next newsletter recommended that particular pot. I guess the morals of the story are check out the HOA very thoroughly BEFORE you commit and that the character of the people who make up the HOA board have a lot to do with how the HOA runs.— April 8, 2015 9:03 a.m.
Reduce water…and continue building? Huh?
shirleyberan Don't know so much about that 50% figure. I was watching a discussion about this a few weeks ago somewhere else and kept reading conflicting information. So I decided to a little research. According to what I read, total water usage, both groundwater and surface water, for ALL functions of livestock, was only 22 percent in 2010, which is the most recent I could find. http://water.usgs.gov/watuse/wulv.html— April 8, 2015 8:40 a.m.
Reduce water…and continue building? Huh?
shirleyberan, I don't each much beef. In fact I never even buy it. The only time I eat it is when I'm dining out, whether it be sit down or fast food, IN-N-OUT mainly, or at a friends house. Bison has been one of my meats of choice for many years. As with all meats, nutrition depends on the cut. I don't think that bison has double the protein, but it's fat content is around 2-3 percent. I looked at a package of rib-eyes I have and a 12oz. steak has 10 gr of fat and 100 gr of protein. You can compare that with beef and see the difference. I also buy the patties that Costco has, and sometimes a roast. Most of the time, though, I get mine from either Montana or Nebraska. More expensive, but the taste is incredible. If you like bison, you might also try ostrich. More protein and even less fat and less cholesterol than bison.— April 8, 2015 8:32 a.m.
Aw, man, you got ginkgo biloba'ed?
don bauder, Those are lyrics to one of my favorite songs, appropriately entitled, at least it seems so in this case, Amnesia.— April 8, 2015 8:05 a.m.
Aw, man, you got ginkgo biloba'ed?
don bauder, No I am not saying that at all. What I am saying is that there are a lot of effective natural remedies available. And a "smart" pill is not one of them.— April 8, 2015 8:02 a.m.