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Fate of Chargers predicted
don bauder Well, OK. That's something that has been discussed many times before. But I have no idea what the relevance is to the above comment. No need to reply.— July 16, 2015 5:29 p.m.
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don bauder, No. What I mean is that in reference to your query as to whether Anaheim or OC would build the Chargers a stadium, since reading of the NFL purchase of the land and Arte Moreno's approval of using Anahiem stadium parking, I have heard no other mention of a football stadium being built in the platinum triangle, either for the Chargers or anyone else. BTW, the term "NAACP basketball tournament games" sounds pretty racist to me and I find it offensive.— July 16, 2015 1:43 p.m.
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don bauder, my response was a "trick" response, as opposed to a trick question. Being that the Raiders left and came back, while the A's have been there all along, I would say that it is the Raiders who are playing in the A's stadium. That said, Toronto is the only other MLB team sharing a stadium with a pro football team, albeit a CFL team. Extrapolating a bit further, Tampa is the only MLB team "sharing" a stadium with a regularly scheduled college football game, albeit a once a year bowl game. Having a college game, or even a high school game, played in an NFL stadium is a regular occurance in many, if not most NFL stadiums. Being that it would be a football game being played in a football stadium would preclude it from being called mixed use.— July 16, 2015 1:36 p.m.
Supermarket slump?
"Industry analysts had predicted months ago that Haggen's entry into the Southern California grocery business would prove difficult." Well golly gee wiz. Only a moron COULDN'T have predicted that.— July 16, 2015 9:44 a.m.
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don bauder The Blue Jays share their stadium with a CFL team and there is a college bowl game played in Tampa Bay's stadium.— July 16, 2015 9:40 a.m.
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don bauder So based on just a single visit, you have formed a negative opinion of not just the Rose Bowl but also Anaheim Stadium. WOW! I am not aware that there has been any mention, let alone serious discussions of a football only stadium being built for the Chargers, or anyone else. I simply mentioned that at one time the NFL was said to have purchased the necessary land there, demonstrating that that at least as recently as 2005-2007, the NFL was interested enough in returning to the greater Los Angeles area. I do not believe that there was a renovation either started or completed in 1988. Actually, let me rephrase that statement. There was no renovation of Anaheim Stadium done in 1988. The city of Anaheim remodeled the stadium to accommodate the Rams playing football there. That was around 1979-1980. They outfield was enclosed with three tiers of seating, a new scoreboard was installed on the outfield roof and the "Big A" was moved to the parking lot. I only saw a few games there before the Rams moved in and it was a completely different experience with the outfield open. The other renovation was done after the Rams left, after Jackie Autry had sold the Angels to Disney, and cost about @120 million. That's it. No renovations in 1988. Sorry.— July 16, 2015 9:32 a.m.
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don bauder There will be no football in Anaheim Stadium. Besides the fact that the stadium has a capacity of only 45K, which is well below what the NFL would require, when the last renovation was done, the stadium was returned to a baseball only facility. Arte Moreno is on record as saying there will be no professional football played there. Now that being said, several years ago the NFL is said to have purchased a stadium sized parcel in the platinum triangle, close enough to use Anaheim stadium parking, which Arte Moreno is said to have approved.— July 15, 2015 8:42 p.m.
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don bauder By chance did you try searching "David Abrams hedge fund"?— July 15, 2015 9:10 a.m.
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don bauder Well, I guess that Abrams is the wealthiest. I have read that he earned $400 million in 2013 running his hedge fund and is worth somewhere around $1.5 billion. Leff is a founder of another hedge fund and Goldring is a managing director at the same hedge fund and I think that between them they are worth somewhere north of $500 million. The rest, probably not so much. They are either original investors or heirs of original investors.— July 14, 2015 11:26 p.m.
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don bauder, Al Davis became the managing general partner in 1972, but he didn’t become the majority owner until 2005. At that point he bought the 31% ownership from E.J. McGah’s family, the great-grandson of Raiders co-founder E.W. McGah. That gave him about 67% ownership. In 2007, Davis sold about 20 % ownership in the Raiders to a group of east coast businessmen: David Abrams, Paul Leff, and Dan Goldring for about $150 million. That leaves Mark Davis and his mother with about 47% ownership. The other minority partners are Ginny Boscacci, widow of original investor Arnie, Allan Boscacci, son of Rita and Gene, who were among the original investors, Jack Hartman, one of the original owners whose wife was related to E.J. McGah, Doray Vail, widow of Ralph Vail who was Jack Hartman’s business partner, GOPPPL,LLC, which is the first fantasy football, company founded by Bill Winkenbach, another original investor, and Bob Seaman, who I read was an east coast businessman friend of Al Davis, owning less than 1%. There are also believed to be others who have inherited a small piece of the franchise from parents, grandparents, even great-grandparents of original investors, but who knows.— July 14, 2015 11 a.m.