Everyone has their own opinion:
http://www.nutrition-health-articles.org/yogurt-e…http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-truth-behind-sell…http://consumerist.com/2010/09/01/how-long-to-wai…http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-24…
You conveniently left out part of the live strong article ( my emphasis):
"Yogurt that has been stored **LONG PAST** its sell-by date **CAN** cause a range of bothersome side effects."
Perhaps this may be of some use:
http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/features/do-fo…
I simply use common sense, If it looks bad or smells bad or tastes bad, regardless of the date, I don't consume it.
That seems to have worked just fine so far.
The only time I can remember ever becoming ill because of something I ate was maybe 15 yrs or so ago. Several of us took our families to Disneyland on Christmas day. (Yes they are open and though they don't announce attendance, many people who have worked their have reported that it is one of the busiest days). Several of us ended up getting food poisoning and it seems that everyone who did, and the only ones who did, all at at the same place. — August 1, 2015 6:43 p.m.
Papa Doug buys Rhode Island estate
Nevertheless, the fact remains that reported use of water by golf courses serviced by the CVWD is 300 million gallons per yer. And the reported **TOTAL** use of water by all courses in the Coachella Valley is 37 billion gallons. Please feel free to make your "estimates" based on whatever suppositions it is you want to base them on. Until some evidence is produced that indicates a different amount of usage, I have no reason to be skeptical of these reported figures.That is good enough for me. Information direct from the source, you might say. Believe it, don’t believe, it matters not to me. Unlike some people here, I’m not skeptical of everything an official might say.— August 3, 2015 10:17 a.m.
Papa Doug buys Rhode Island estate
don bauder Yes I am aware of this. As I said it has been discussed here before. The charges against the son were for aiding and abetting. When Walter Annenberg took over the family businesses after the death of his father, Triangle Publications made its money off the DRF because people bought it. And I will stand by my assertion that most of the people that buy it as an aid for their wagers do not have bucks. Feel free to disagree.— August 2, 2015 9:28 a.m.
Dr. Seuss gets posthumous front page
don bauder Personally, I prefer omelets to scrambled eggs. In fact, I just ate one couple of hours ago.— August 2, 2015 9:20 a.m.
Papa Doug buys Rhode Island estate
twister, well first off, I'm not going to try and refute or correct your "calculations". I don't have the background that you do,so any attempts on my part to either prove or disprove them would be futile. I didn't even turn 9 years old until late in 1965. According to the National Golf Foundation and the Golf Course Superintendents Association of America, an average 18-hole golf course takes up about 150 acres of land, including acreage in lakes, ponds, out-of-play areas and hard structure. So, based on the calculation that you provided, that the minimum required to keep grass green in an average year is pretty close to two million gallons per acre per year times the number of acres of grass, then about 150 acres of maintained turf would, at 2 million gallons per year per acre would be a minimum of 300 million gallons per year, without factoring in the lower water usage necessary for the extra acreage in lakes, ponds, out-of-play areas and hard structure. The fact that you have included a waste/over-irrigation factor of 2.5, from studies you read over 40 yrs ago, is, in my opinion, irrelevant. Irrigation and water conservation techniques are so vastly different from those of 40 yrs ago, I believe that any such figure from 40 yrs ago would be meaningless today. Based on your own statements, on what basis do make the claim that Sunnylands "is likely to "consume" well over 600 million gallons per year", if you don't even know how large the course is? As I noted in my comments, Sunnylands is a nine-hole course and prior to the recent 2010 renovation, it had 120 acres of maintained turf grass. During that renovation, 60 acres of turf grass were replaced with 28-acres of native meadow grasses and 32-acres of mulch, all to help to reduce water use; I have read that they put in Purple Three Awn, Sideoats Grama and Blue Grama, which alone could reduce water usage in those areas planted by as much as 50 percent. The renovation also included an irrigation system upgrade that included a state-of-the-art IC system from Rain Bird, probably much more efficient than those of 1965. For me, there is no convolution. As I said, facts and figures from studies over 40 years ago are not relevant now. And in my opinion, making estimates of water usage, with those same calculations, but without know the size of the area being irrigated is pure folly. I’m not going to argue with you over estimates and calculations, evapotranspiration rates, waste/over-irrigation factor or any of that crap. You can continue to believe what you want. The bottom line for me is the fact that the CVWD says the courses on average use about 300 million gallons of water annually. That is good enough for me. Information direct from the source, you might say. Believe it, don’t believe, it matters not to me. Unlike some people here, I’m not skeptical of everything an official might say.— August 2, 2015 9:17 a.m.
Papa Doug buys Rhode Island estate
don bauder I don't do math. I think I drew the line at advanced calculus and that was probably 35 plus years ago. Neither do I do politics. One of my oldest friends is a mayor in a southwestern city and that's as close as I care to get, apart from voting, of course.— August 2, 2015 9:12 a.m.
Supermarket slump?
"Hostess Brands LLC is preparing for the return of the Twinkie in a week, without unionized workers, company stores or the pile of debt the predecessor company accumulated. The Twinkie's shelf life will be 45 days when the baked good returns to grocery stores on July 15. That's almost three weeks longer than the 26 days the former Twinkie was supposed to stay fresh." http://abcnews.go.com/Business/hostess-brands-com… Nevertheless, a couple of years ago,upon returning to a place I have in the mountains outside of Tucson, among the things left from my last visit the year earlier were a few twinkies. And as I said, they tasted just fine and I suffered no ill affects. Have you ever considered the possibility that those making the foods are conservative in their dating, not just to ensure your safety, but also counting on the fact that with so much food wasted in this country, when you throw out those "out dated" items, you'll just spend more money to by more of them. No , of course not. That could never happen. I don't know what to tell you other than you do your thing and I'll do mine.— August 1, 2015 11:40 p.m.
Supermarket slump?
dwbat, Yes, I have gotten sick from restaurant food, as I noted above. But we were taking about unopened, packaged food, not prepared restaurant food. I am keenly aware of the proper handling requirements and storage of refrigerated products and I have also returned items that were well within their "date", yet spoiled, on many occasions. Common sense has to be evident at some point. Would you eat 6 month old cottage cheese, even though it is unopened? I wouldn't. I don't eat bread that has even the slightest touch of mold on it because the visible mold you see on the surface of bread also sends root threads down into it. On the flip side, with hard or semi-hard cheeses like cheddar, colby, gorgonzola, gruyere, parm or romano, the mold has trouble penetrating deeply into the cheese. If you can cut an inch or so of cheese off of each side of the mold and toss the moldy slices, it should be safe to eat. I have also fired down a year old twinkie that tasted just fine and suffered no ill affects. Again, common sense. As I said before I simply use common sense, If it looks bad or smells bad or tastes bad, regardless of the date, I don't consume it. That seems to have worked just fine so far— August 1, 2015 9:22 p.m.
Animal rights activists arrested for terrorizing fur farms
"but the point is, do we want to learn anything or just defend our errors?" Can't you do both?— August 1, 2015 6:46 p.m.
Supermarket slump?
Everyone has their own opinion: http://www.nutrition-health-articles.org/yogurt-e… http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-truth-behind-sell… http://consumerist.com/2010/09/01/how-long-to-wai… http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-24… You conveniently left out part of the live strong article ( my emphasis): "Yogurt that has been stored **LONG PAST** its sell-by date **CAN** cause a range of bothersome side effects." Perhaps this may be of some use: http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/features/do-fo… I simply use common sense, If it looks bad or smells bad or tastes bad, regardless of the date, I don't consume it. That seems to have worked just fine so far. The only time I can remember ever becoming ill because of something I ate was maybe 15 yrs or so ago. Several of us took our families to Disneyland on Christmas day. (Yes they are open and though they don't announce attendance, many people who have worked their have reported that it is one of the busiest days). Several of us ended up getting food poisoning and it seems that everyone who did, and the only ones who did, all at at the same place.— August 1, 2015 6:43 p.m.
Animal rights activists arrested for terrorizing fur farms
I own a couple of pairs of gloves made from lambskin and lined with rabbit fur. Very expensive, very comfortable and very warm. So I guess that makes me a horrid person??— August 1, 2015 2:07 p.m.