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"The Chargers are cheap and manipulative"
don bauder, I am assuming that you have never seen the CBA and don't follow such things closely, if at all. That being the case, I'll try and put it as simply as possible. Teams have limits on how much they can spend on total rookie salaries and how much they can spend on individual contracts. This is further split up between what must be spent the first year and the total for 4-year contracts. Contract value and bonus amounts are predetermined for each pick. The higher the pick, the higher the total contract is and the larger the amount of signing bonus is. There is no "adjustment" based on the position played. The last 2 years, the top 2 picks were QBs and the number 3 pick was a defensive player, so yes, the QBs are paid more. In 2014, the first 2 picks were defense and the 3rd pick was a QB, so the QB was the 3rd highest paid. It is not my "analysis", as you referred to it above. It is simply the the way it is spelled out in the CBA. The higher a player is drafted, the larger his contract will be, regardless of the position he plays. It's been that way since the current CBA started in 2011 and will stay that way at least until it expires after the 2020 season.— August 30, 2016 9:49 a.m.
"The Chargers are cheap and manipulative"
din bauder Keep in mind that Bosa played in a 3 front in college and the Chargers use a 4 front. I see a significant learning curve for Bosa, magnified by the fact he will have so little preseason time. I think people expecting him to make an immediate impact will be disappointed.— August 29, 2016 1:55 p.m.
"The Chargers are cheap and manipulative"
don bauder Let me put it more concisely for you. With the offset language in the contract, if Bosa is released and signs with another team, the Chargers are completely off the hook. The new team pays him, and the Chargers wash their hands of the situation. If there is no offset language, Bosa receives the guaranteed money from his original contract with the Chargers AND the full salary from his new team. THAT is double dipping and that is what Bosa wants, as evidenced by his demand for no offset language. It might also be of interest to note that Bosa's father, John Bosa, also played in the NFL and. surprise, was also a rookie hold out. Seems that the senior Bosa, who was drafted 16th in the 1st round, held out for a few weeks before signing. He ended up playing for only 3 years and only started something like 20 games. Like father, like son?? Just my opinion. Opinions vary.— August 29, 2016 8:41 a.m.
"The Chargers are cheap and manipulative"
don bauder Everyone who has worked in the front office for probably the last 20 yrs was born stupid and only gotten worse as time goes by.— August 27, 2016 6:46 p.m.
"The Chargers are cheap and manipulative"
That is according to Bosa's agent. Every report I have read says otherwise. According to the published figures, the only to players who signed for more than Bosa was offered are the first and second picks in the draft. In other words, the only two players to get more than Bosa are the only two players drafted ahead of Bosa. According to ESPN, the deal was an initial signing-bonus payment which was larger than any rookie received in the past two NFL drafts, was more money in 2016 than every rookie in the 2016 draft class except for the Carson Wentz and the largest payment and the highest percentage of signing bonus received in the first calendar year of any Chargers first-round pick since the adoption of the NFL’s collective bargaining agreement in 2011. That doesn't sound like low balling to me and sure doesn't sound like less money than players taken after him in the draft. Just my opinion. Opinions vary.— August 27, 2016 6:44 p.m.
"The Chargers are cheap and manipulative"
don bauder There is only 1 first round, number three draft pick. We are feferring to only the first round picks. A players position is irrelevant. The current CBA specifies the amount of the contract in total and how much signing bonus.— August 27, 2016 6:36 p.m.
"The Chargers are cheap and manipulative"
Exactly how is it that the Chargers are "low balling another draft top draft pick?" ALL rookies get paid based on draft positioning and teams already have that money allocated against the salary cap. Contract value and bonus amounts are predetermined, so the only negotiable items are the offset language, terms for the payment of bonus money and small things of that nature. I probably wouldn't give ANY player a full signing bonus in his first year, and I damn sure wouldn't agree to the offset that Bosa wants.— August 26, 2016 4:58 p.m.
Cue the blues: R.I.P. Candye Kane
Saddened to her of Candye's passing. I think the first time we saw her was in the early 90's down at Dick's and we became fans forever. You will be missed. R.I.P.— May 7, 2016 3:42 p.m.
A disgrace to the NFL?
don bauder, I don't think that Hornung and Karras made as much as you think. I have seen Hornung's contract from the year before his suspension and it was for only $18,500.00, which was only slightly higher than his rookie contract for '57,'58,and 1959 at $15,000.00. I read once that when Hornung returned from suspension, he was paid what he would have made the year he was suspended and if I remember correctly, it was in the $20k neighborhood. I don't know how much Karras made, but I have read that before he started his rookie year, he went into professional wrestling. He signed a $25 k contract, which I believe he once said was more than double what he made when he signed his first football contract. That was in 1957 or 1958, so he would have made more in the early '60's,— February 9, 2016 3:02 p.m.
A disgrace to the NFL?
don bauder No, I read that. I was giving the specifics of the committee. I meant to use the word specifically, rather than basically. And no I don't think that the NFL has their fingers out of the Hof pie, any more than MLB does, even though the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum is operated by private interests. However, that being said, I am not nearly as jaded as you are and think the league probably is less influential in this area than you believe it to be. Just my opinions. Opinions vary. On a separate note, with tomorrow being Ash Wednesday and the beginning of Lent, one of my choices for atonement and self denial will be the abnegation of all social media, including commenting, for the duration of Lent. But I shall return in full force after Easter.— February 9, 2016 8:50 a.m.