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Response to: Kissing Cousins (errr, mothers) and Interracial Dating
re: #13: Fish, I was too embarrassed to admit that I had yet again trouble with a link--but yes, that last one did not transfer for me, either. Don't know Jason Lewis, but I would agree about Aaron Eckhart--lately. NOT in "Your Friends and Neighbors," which makes Jason Patric into a ghoul, likewise. :) single: "I don't want to speak for a group who are not me so hopefully some women who are into military, or Asian women with white fetishes, will pipe in." You'd better start talking. I get the feeling we are not the most heterogeneous group here on the Reader site. :) single and Joe: Dang! We'd better do a "I survived private school" support group--or cocktail hour.— September 22, 2009 10:33 p.m.
Cabs vs. Coach
Whyigota: Several cousins and an aunt were moved enough by the scent of plumeria to all get the same small tattoo of this flower on their bodies. We are talking about some pretty conservative folk, too, but they are beautiful flowers, aren't they? :)— September 22, 2009 10:27 p.m.
Cabs vs. Coach
Did someone pod-nap PP? An apology? (Sputter, sputter). Well! And guess what? I'm biologically Hawaiian, but have never been there, either, though everyone else in my family has been, including my mother (obviously). Keep it up, PP, and I'm going to have to conclude that you are indeed human :)— September 22, 2009 10:21 p.m.
Home Is Where Cheap Rent Is
Hey elsabio, I don't have trouble with anyone having a sense of purpose, and sorry if I seem harsh. I do have many many issues with organized spirituality, and the brain drain and sense of self-righteousness that appears to accompany it (e.g. ref. "Bigbob" above") We do agree on many issues, and I'd like to hear more about your growing up during the Cold War (the first part :)— September 22, 2009 10:16 p.m.
Response to: Kissing Cousins (errr, mothers) and Interracial Dating
Joe wrote: "My family never had money but managed to send me to private school, with all the privileged kids. Bad thrift store clothes, strange lunches and parents that were religious zealots kept me in my shell." Scrap the religious zealotry and remove one parent, and boy, you are describing my life, too. However, Joe, to say to this issue of growing up with racial prejudice, "see, there are other differences to suffer from," well, it's really apples and oranges. We have to respect the particularities of single's experience without trying to equate them with others. "SDaniels, yes...ethnic studies and it's various theorists and literatures was my specialty in undergrad and grad. I do not, however, take comfort in its confinement within the walls of dusty libraries or echoey academic halls." Oops, sorry single--I knew this about you already. But do you really think that your specialities stayed in dusty or echoey halls? Did you not, after study, go out into the world and make some changes? I have never met a student of cultural studies who did not :)— September 22, 2009 9:12 p.m.
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Hey AG, thanks for bringing up the issue of language, and again, how we are confined (happily, for me) within its boundaries. Exactly why--perhaps--it is best as you say, to live one's spiritual principles rather than command or preach them.— September 22, 2009 8:54 p.m.
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"So the Sage lives openly with apparent duality and paradoxical unity." So easy to say, isn't it? And so hard to do. elsabio, why invoke Mother England, that important but rather worn example of the duplicity of imperialistic culture, and then leap between Lincoln and Bush? Does quantum physics sanction this random historical leaping, or are you just regurgitating the tenets of an undergraduate student's education in cultural studies? I certainly appreciate it more than the average right-wing extremist's bull, but you've got to represent your views better than this, dude. "My simple weapon is color and bumper stickers with positive memes..." Very poetic, but frankly, I don't know what to do with stuff like the earth still "glowing," either, or the fact that you refer to yourself as "The Sage," which sniffs of a hubris of the same deluded kind as your garden variety Christian drone. I have to say, I did enjoy the conversation until it got a bit loopy :)— September 22, 2009 8:40 p.m.
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"The object of the game with the Tao Te Ching is to withdraw from identification with the realm of the particulars..." "It is in this consciousness that one becomes aware that there is no us/them duality..." I stand corrected on the issue of the particular in your philosophy. Yes, I'm familiar with Hawking--and others--who write on physics for the layman, and I am also aware that many contemporary spiritualists use layman's physics--in particular, quantum theory, though other theories are out there--to support their views of some immaterial plane of existence. In this, you are not much different from the Huna folk, who use ancient Hawaiian texts and oral history to claim that we can achieve material wealth through the destruction of dangerous dualistic thinking--but not really. Here's the problem I have with this kind of theory, elsabio. While it is a wonderful goal to bring us all into some kind of consciousness as you describe (or lack thereof, since the Tao is not happy with the working tool that is the ego), you cannot do without dualisms, any more than you can do without your ego as a thinking tool, with which you will also continue filter emotion. In your statement above as well as others, you fall prey to the very kind of us/them thinking to which every proponent of any major religion or organized spiritual thought falls prey--namely, the nonconclusion of "when will THEY learn?" (I by no means exclude or bracket off myself from this--I'm a major offender in this realm). At the same time you propose this kind of expansive, universal thinking and acceptance, you are bothered by the smallness and pettiness of others' thinking about Mexican culture and life in Tijuana. How do you resolve this contradiction of self/other? And in the larger sense, how do you renounce the tools you need to espouse a more inclusive cultural awareness, without falling into such fallacious conclusions as, for example, "Mexican heritage is richer than American heritage?"— September 22, 2009 7:32 p.m.
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I will agree with everything you've said, elsabio, save this: "...a much richer culture, a culture that is truly of the people and not corporate culture. So the Americans remain culturally bereft." Yes, we have given in to corporate culture, and if your media diet were nothing but advertising ploys, you'd think that's all we have or value. But while we need to say more about that phenomenon, this is still the kind of homogenized statement you deplore. Of course, the US is also complex of various cultures and social expression, and it is worth exploring. Remember your Tao, and don't give in to the either/or...there is also room for the endless "and..." :)— September 22, 2009 6:51 p.m.
¡Viva Mexico!
Yikes, gunfire at the border--seems confined to perps and an ICE agent. Still--hope everyone's somewhere else today?— September 22, 2009 6:40 p.m.