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Columbus--The Man, The Myth...The Mercenary!

First issue, AG: Asking if I am a food snob does not equal a sound thrashing, AG :) Second issue, LPR: Yes, it was I who questioned whether or not one would get a third date. Didn't consider I was being snide, just playful, though I don't think those two establishments offer much for people who REALLY love good food--or anything at all for vegetarians-- to eat. When I was invited to eat at either of these places with others, I had no choice but to sit politely, and sip a drink. The point: If you felt that either place was sufficient for a first date with me--a hot chick--you would not likely get a second date. HOWEVER, LPR: If I were single, and you took me to a coffeeshop on Columbus day, and showed your kick-ass knowledge of the true meaning of said day, you can bet your imperialistic smarts that you would get second, third, and fourth dates ;) Third issue, Pike, who whined: "That said, what's the point in condemning past actions like this? Is there some sort of amelioration of deep-seated, cultural guilt that goes along with wagging the finger at history's "bad guys?" What's the point? What's gained by this recontextualizing of cultural "heroes" as "villains?" Any judgment we make is merely a reflection of our own issues passed off and deferred into history, thereby made basically impotent." I seriously do not get your point, Pikenstein, other than as an intellectual exercise, which is inappropriate to apply to these kinds of historical events. You yourself wrote: "genocidal rampage." It is clearly intellectually appropriate to ask how we review events from various sociohistorical standpoints and methodologies, and how narratives change over time; but wonder whether or not we should condemn the slaughter of indigenous peoples?! If you want an immediate reason to continue to ask questions about how and why we might revise history, start by considering how exactly it comes about that such abominations as Columbus day and Thanksgiving are still on the calendar--as patriotic events full of American cultural pride. Fact is, schools are still teaching how in 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue, and how he did us a great turn by discovering all kinds of neat lands, animals, and oh yeah--people who needed to be discovered in order to exist. (Apparently they also needed to be tortured, enslaved, and murdered by the thousands). I think it is more important to question this particular putre-fact, eh?
— October 13, 2009 1:58 p.m.

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