Congratulations for taking all day to reference dictionary.com.
Now, you would like an apology from--me? For what, exactly?
Are you so dense that you have not understood anything I have written about this topic today, Pete? Are you completely unable to understand the words I have written in English to you? I never doubted that you would find the definition you were looking for, and told you that it would not matter. It is the etymology that tells you the origin of this word, which is in the idea of color--of BLACK--in particular. This word cannot be uttered today outside the context of a racial slur, and you personally do not have the power to remove that contextual meaning, even if you wished to--which is highly doubtful, considering the way you, personally, have consistently used the word ONLY in reference to African Americans. What is so hard to understand about that, Pete? Did you even read the paragraph accompanying the entire set of definitions?
The term n-- is now probably the most offensive word in English. Its degree of offensiveness has increased markedly in recent years, although it has been used in a derogatory manner since at least the Revolutionary War. Definitions 1a, 1b, and 2 represent meanings that are deeply disparaging and are used when the speaker deliberately wishes to cause great offense. Definition 1a, however, is sometimes used among African-Americans in a neutral or familiar way. Definition 3 is not normally considered disparaging—as in “The Irish are the n-- of Europe” from Roddy Doyle's The Commitments—but the other uses are considered contemptuous and hostile.
–noun 1. Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a. a black person.
b. a member of any dark-skinned people.
2. Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a person of any race or origin regarded as contemptible, inferior, ignorant, etc.
3. a victim of prejudice similar to that suffered by blacks; a person who is economically, politically, or socially disenfranchised.
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Origin:
1640–50; < F nègre < Sp negro black — November 6, 2009 7:03 p.m.
A Good Little Girl, Catholic Variety
"...the trauma that flows..." Nicelyyyy flowing trauma ;) Do it, Joe, do it, do it. Hee heeehee hhhe ee e. [loses it]— November 6, 2009 8:14 p.m.
Shield for All
Me too--remember, we have the same issues on this ;)— November 6, 2009 8:09 p.m.
A Good Little Girl, Catholic Variety
arg--sorry for all the typos--tired...;(— November 6, 2009 7:21 p.m.
A Good Little Girl, Catholic Variety
re: #27: I always thought the virgin birth was considered it not so much as a parthogenetic triumph on the part of Mary or of woman, but of the uber-power of God's male seed. He doesn't even have to lift a finger, as it were. You can see this same theme in Greek myths, where Zeus shows up as a kind of insubstantial mist, etc. And another thing to consider, perhaps, is the way Mary can only reach such reverential status is by NOT being touched by man--which shows you what we tend to think of "defiled" women--it's all on them, right? The whole thing is fascinating and sick at the same time...— November 6, 2009 7:19 p.m.
The Sordid, Grisly Details
Congratulations for taking all day to reference dictionary.com. Now, you would like an apology from--me? For what, exactly? Are you so dense that you have not understood anything I have written about this topic today, Pete? Are you completely unable to understand the words I have written in English to you? I never doubted that you would find the definition you were looking for, and told you that it would not matter. It is the etymology that tells you the origin of this word, which is in the idea of color--of BLACK--in particular. This word cannot be uttered today outside the context of a racial slur, and you personally do not have the power to remove that contextual meaning, even if you wished to--which is highly doubtful, considering the way you, personally, have consistently used the word ONLY in reference to African Americans. What is so hard to understand about that, Pete? Did you even read the paragraph accompanying the entire set of definitions? The term n-- is now probably the most offensive word in English. Its degree of offensiveness has increased markedly in recent years, although it has been used in a derogatory manner since at least the Revolutionary War. Definitions 1a, 1b, and 2 represent meanings that are deeply disparaging and are used when the speaker deliberately wishes to cause great offense. Definition 1a, however, is sometimes used among African-Americans in a neutral or familiar way. Definition 3 is not normally considered disparaging—as in “The Irish are the n-- of Europe” from Roddy Doyle's The Commitments—but the other uses are considered contemptuous and hostile. –noun 1. Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a. a black person. b. a member of any dark-skinned people. 2. Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a person of any race or origin regarded as contemptible, inferior, ignorant, etc. 3. a victim of prejudice similar to that suffered by blacks; a person who is economically, politically, or socially disenfranchised. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Origin: 1640–50; < F nègre < Sp negro black— November 6, 2009 7:03 p.m.
Banker's Hill/Mercy Outpatient
Re: 'honing'--you got that right. I have to start writing a dissertation--soon--should I get a three-year extension on it. My bookshelves are a worriedly constant thing of wonder--'oh, forgot I had that!' ;(— November 6, 2009 5:56 p.m.
What's Of What With My Magic What?
but what happened to the last sentence? Or was it the last sentence?— November 6, 2009 4:53 p.m.
The Sordid, Grisly Details
Boys--and this is my last post on this topic--at least for now: Whatever you find as definitional byproduct, the etymology is always going to be "black," so you won't be able to shake loose this connection. Meaning, whatever twists and turns the word has taken, you will find it has at root a denigrating intent towards dark-skinned people: "The etymology is var. of neger, negre, negro--all ref. "black""— November 6, 2009 4:23 p.m.
Banker's Hill/Mercy Outpatient
A strange--more capricious than capacious--memory I'm cursed with (or blessed, on some occasions) ;)— November 6, 2009 4:18 p.m.
A Good Little Girl, Catholic Variety
re: #23: Gawd forbid we should remember the human being in that there casket... ...and thank YOU, SL. I know so little about Catholic politics, so it is interesting to learn from you peeps.— November 6, 2009 4:13 p.m.