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San Diego City Employees pension fund ailing

The sky is falling...the sky is falling.... I disagree but, what's your point? What is the relevance of this snapshot to a system that has investment time horizons of 20, 30 and 40 years? True SDCERS likes tooting its own horn. What company doesn't brag about its success? It’s comforting for participants to know/believe their funds are performing better than its peers. But anyone who invests knows "past performance is not a guarantee of future performance". Just ask all the folks who invested with Mr. Madeoff, right? The "DOW" is down 34% as of December 30, 2008, third worst performance in its history behind 1931 and 34 during the Depression. Who in 2005, 06 or 07 saw this coming? Who foresaw the so- called perfect storm of housing price collapse, financial meltdowns combined with regulatory incompetence, purposeful or not? As you pointed out, the 10 year performance "[i]s still very good — 7.65 percent a year, in the top 6 percent." Next the issue of asset allocation. You say Callan & Associates is concerned about the Fund's ratios. Yet "Callan conceded that these non–blue chips have a better record in recent years but warned that there have been long historical periods during which mid- and small-cap stocks have underperformed large-cap stocks. San Diego should consider shaving its allocations of these gamier small- and mid-cap stocks, lest it lock in some losses" This sounds like Callan & Associates is covering their posterior. The CYAing of American businesses is necessary these days in case thing go south. You see some people believe they should hire attorneys and litigate for malpractice, albeit an expensive and risky method, of “earning” investment returns on poor decisions. Don you believe SDCERS' asset allocation "...[c]ould prove risky. The pension system's actuary, Cheiron, reported investments in the coming year “will be most challenging.” Challenging? How about down right scary? But again, Cheiron mention the period of the next year. We know the fund's performance over a 10 year period hovers around 7% , not bad. The board acted in December, meeting its fiduciary responsibility, lowering its expected rate of return and interest crediting rates to 7.75%. Additionally, the board's agenda for January 2009 contains action items for further discussion, that’s code for lowering of interest crediting and return rates. I'd like to pose some final "What if" questions. I do it for of our prolific poster Johnny V and his mantra of bankruptcy. What if the City's underfunding turns out to be financial stroke of luck? I’d never call it genius! With many investment vehicles severely beaten down, SDCERS can purchase them during the period of amortization. Combine them with its long term horizons holds and we’ll ride out this perfect storm. (CONTINUED)
— December 31, 2008 8:43 a.m.

Andrea Tevlin, San Diego's budget analyst, too busy to talk

Don, Remember the City is the one of three plan sponsors. If we look at the the other two, one was more than 100% by either accounting method. The City, in its plan documents also set the date for valuation, not SDCERS. SDCERS merely administers the benefits with a fiduciary duty, which sometimes I believe is conflicted, to its members. In the October 2008 Board of Administration meeting the SDCERS Fiduciary council clearly told the the Board of their duty...to the "system" and to members benefits. You say SDCERS uses "income-smoothing dating techniques" are these accepted actuarial standards for measuring "long" term investments for pension plans? SDCERS' historical track record is clear. It has performed substantially better then hundreds of other public pension systems. And while agree, past performance is not an indicator of future performance, the fact is the fund has out performed the market year, after year, after year. True, this will not be case this year, unless you consider the fund's losses will be less than other indexes it's measured against. With the benefit of 20/20 hindsight should SDCERS have altered its funding ratios? Sure... All of us who were holding equities in August 08 wish we had that crystal ball! Should the system publish valuations more often? Maybe. But what's the point? Again the time horizon on many of its investment strategies, as I mention, is literally decades down the road. Should the fund hold less volatile investment? Maybe I just read the is a proposal for 100 year US Treasury note with a 3% yield deferred for 30 years. Safe? Who the hell knows what going to going a 100 years from now. That's a tough one especially when considering one of the two fiduciary duties of the Board, i.e. the one that states maximize member benefits. But SDCERS does not grant benefits it merely manages and administers them. So I guess this means maximize "returns" for the member's benefit. A monthly, quarterly system valuation means nothing other than measuring the performance of professional money managers hired by the fund. Does the average citizen really care...I think not. Does the reconstituted Board care? Of course they do. But I believe monthly or quarterly public statement would only lead to political pressure and attempted interference in the investment strategies by politicians. And, I think, no I pray, you'd NEVER want that... most of our local elected leaders wouldn't know the difference between a ledger and P/L statement. Is Scott Peters attempting paint us a pretty picture...well duh! The guy doesn't want to known as the first Council President who led the City into the abyss. In fact NO ONE, not even your favorite, Donna Frye, wants any part of the responsibility for this mess. Same with Sanders. And NO ONE on this planet could have accurately predicted the extent of the WORLD financial mess we're in today, a year or two ago.
— December 3, 2008 6:48 p.m.

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