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San Diego City Employees pension fund ailing

All the regulars here know pensions are a percentage of the BASE salary, NOT including overtime. Don’t believe me? Visit www.SDCERS.org and read the pension rules and formulas for yourself. The UT knows it and so does Councilmember DeMaio. Why don't they mention it or choose NOT to disclose this openly? Because they want to spin information and opinion to their advantage. Seems there are some ethical issues with both of them. Let's consider the firefighters who earned extra money during the wildfire storms. FEMA and the State paid for or reimburse the City for these costs. Funny how that's omitted isn't it? Regarding cops: if one works the DUI patrol for OT, that money comes back from the State and Feds in the form of grants aimed at combating drunk drivers. Again no direct cost to City taxpayers. But carefully omitted...hmmmm there seems to be a trend. What about overtime at a Padre or Charger game, that OT is paid for by the teams. Yes, Don is correct, the Chargers have a sweetheart deal but others NOW pay full boat costs INCLUDING the costs associated with benefits. Why the Chargers still get away with these reduced rates is beyond me. Maybe Jerry S or Jay G have an answer as why these contracts have not been amended over Jerry's last three years???? The bottom line is this - SDPD and the SDFD are the lowest staffed (per capita) major city police and fire departments in the United States. Just because they don’t have the people, doesn’t mean the job isn’t there to be done. So you have two choices: either hire more people or pay overtime. It's the City that has the hiring authority not the labor groups. It's the City who decides to pay overtime rather than hire full time employees. Why? Because it MORE COST effective to pay overtime without any benefits then to pay for the cost of a new employee WITH the associated benefits cost. Now I will sit back to be called a liar by the likes of “Johnny Vegas”. While this is a common occurance, it is equally common that they fail to post alternative facts and sources that prove what I say is false. Visit SDCERS and grab a city budget. Read it for yourself.
— February 4, 2009 11:47 a.m.

San Diego City Employees pension fund ailing

There's no longer a point to this thread. It doesn't resemble in anyway whatsoever the original article even though I attempted to steer it back a few times. No, threads like these have become a place for rhetoric from opposing sides nothing more, with neither side budging. Even when proper factual documentation is put forth, Mr. Vegas ignores it so he can continue this no matter what. The city has begun the process of meet and confer with its labor groups. I note for the record that an agreement was reached in Vallejo. http://www.timesheraldonline.com/ci_11570926?sour… The Vallejo City Council voted 5 to 2 late Tuesday night for a controversial and heavily debated deal that will mean fewer cops on the streets, but also could save millions for the bankrupt city. My point, things can get better when all parties work toward a solution. Will it solve their problems overnight? Nope. Is it a step in the right direction, you bet. So until Johnny makes some more ridiculous, troll like statements, I'm done here.
— January 28, 2009 9:30 a.m.

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