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SDCERS Lowers DROP Interest Rate to 3.54 Percent, Says DeMaio

OK here's the data on the new interest crediting rates voted on today and effective July 1, 2009. For active DROP accounts the rate is 3.54% down from 7.75% For DROP Annuity accounts the rate is 5% down from 7.75% Here is the logic adopted by the Board. DROP active accounts should be consider a short term no risk deposit. So they tied it to a blend of the 12 month averages of three indexes. 1. 5-Year Treasuries rates 2. 5-Year IRA CD rates 3. 5-Year High Quality Corporate Bonds as reported on the IRS website. Two of the indexes are weighted at 100% the other index, the 5-Year HQ Corporate Bonds is weighted at 50%. Using the period from Feb 08 through Jan 09 of these indicies returns a rate of 3.54%. The same method was used for calculating the Annuity Rate of Return except one new index was used. 1. 20 year PBGC "immediate" annuity rate 2. 20 year Treasury Rate 3. 20 year High Quality Corporate Bond rate. The same 12 month time period and averaging method was applied, with the 20 year HQ bonds weighted at 50%. Using the period from Feb 08 through Jan 09 of these indicies returns a rate of 6.12%. However since the crediting rate IS NOT the assumed rate of return then SDMC ordinance overrides rate of return capping it at 5%. Obviously those nearing the end of the 5 Year DROP period, who are leaning toward selecting the DROP annuity program will, most likely choose to leave by June 30th to take advantage of the 7.75% annuity rate.
— February 20, 2009 3:02 p.m.

San Diego City Employees pension fund ailing

Johnny, you said in #914 above; “Again, ther [sic] union is just as much at fault for not insisting the ballon [sic] payment be PAID. Not a one way street JW, sorry.” This is more of same troll commenting you done all along. It’s just like a previous comment this week, that the unions are fiduciaries of the pension fund. Your comments are typically inaccurate and designed to stir controversy. With that said, again, sure it’s easy to say they should have this or that…but please tell me EXACTLY HOW they could have “insisted”? City workers, specifically public safety employees are not allowed to strike. The main leverage of any organized labor group has over management is its ability to withhold labor services or strike. To illustrate my point lets look at Local 127, one of the City’s labor groups. They negotiated with the city in an attempt to make a two-way street as you suggested. They agreed to have more money withheld from their paychecks to shore up the pension’s underfunding. Part of the negotiation required a matching amount from the City. So what did the city do? They took the money, kept it for a year or so, then when the time came to make their matching contribution, it was …Oh, we can’t do that… we’ll give you back your money, but it’ll take us a little while to do it. Oh, and by the way, no interest on it. So, Mr. Vegas, I’ll ask again, how exactly does a union insist on anything? Heck even when they negotiate AND agree they go back on their promise.
— February 20, 2009 2:54 p.m.

SDCERS Lowers DROP Interest Rate to 3.54 Percent, Says DeMaio

I suppose this is merely a matter of semantics, but to be as accurate as possible, when an employee enters the DROP program he or she is technically retired from the City. No additional SDCERS credits accumulate and the City no longer contributes to the employee's "Pension" account. The SD muni-code says in section 24.1401 "DROP is intended to be cost neutral." I would argue two points here. 1. The word "intended" is a far cry from "shall" and not even in the same ballpark as "MUST", legally speaking. (Blacks Law Dictionary) 2. The muni code is not clear as to WHO should be cost neutral, the City of SD, SDCERS, both? As with other issues of that era, the legal work is very sloppy. SDCERS Board Member, and former board President Peter Provolos said in today's meeting that "cost neutral" is a myth. The program is flawed and could not be cost neutral. Another board member added cost neutrality to whom? SDCERS or the City. Remember, the Boards actuarial, Gene Kalwarski, of Cheiron, only reports on SDCERS. Has there every been an independent study of the DROP program's cost neutrality to the City of San Diego? This raises another new issue. The Board voted to review the interest crediting rates each November and implement in January of the following year. To accomplish this they must adopt new board rules at next month's meeting. Proposition B, passed by the voters, REQUIRES a vote of the electorate, to enhance pension benefits. Here's a probable hypothetical. Inflation takes off a direct result of the STIMULUS plans... interest rates on the indexes SDCERS used to calculate the rates climbs too. November comes, and the Board set new crediting rates to match the rate of return. Is this NOW a pension benefit enhancement that requires a vote of the people to approve it? Oh what a tangled web we weave...
— February 20, 2009 2:06 p.m.

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