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Pension Costs Reach 69% of City Payroll, Says DeMaio

Finally Johnny let's go back and read comment #51 above. In part you wrote: "Oh, and lets not forget you said the SPSP ****SUPPLEMENTAL PENSION*** was not supplemental, but the main pension. Guess you got smoked on that whopper too (this in spite of the fact that the SP in "SPSP" stands for "Supplemental Pension" Savings Plan) You're a joke, running around like a little whiner when someone calls you out on your fraud." The only joke of a person here is you Johnny... go to Appendix G, page 49 of Mr. Goldsmith's analysis and opinion. Read the facts my friend, stop posting lies. Page 49, Appendix G of the Goldsmith's opinion reads: “In January 1982, the City Council, with the agreement of City employees, created the Supplemental Pension Savings Plan [SPSP or Plan], as a replacement for Social Security. San Diego Resolution R-255609 (Jan. 4, 1982). SPSP is not a benefit under the retirement system as defined by article IX of the Charter. It is a benefit provided and administered by the City. “ It further states: ”The Plan has been established pursuant to the City of San Diego’s withdrawal form the Federal Social Security System and to the Federal Government’s mandate of a Social Security Medicare tax for all employees not covered by Social Security hired on or after April 1, 1986, with the purpose of providing eligible employees a convenient method of saving and to provide supplemental pension benefits. “
— January 22, 2010 11:21 a.m.

Pension Costs Reach 69% of City Payroll, Says DeMaio

As usual Johnny can't or just won't read and understand. Johnny, those are Goldsmith's, you know a professional peer of yours, words, not mine. http://voiceofsandiego.org/government/thehall/art… But you already knew that. Once again your incendiary comments are designed for one purpose alone. Don Internet trolls like Johnny a.k.a. Surf Puppy are a discredit to this blog.
— January 21, 2010 2:31 p.m.

Pension Costs Reach 69% of City Payroll, Says DeMaio

The City's defined benefit plan has been in place for a long, long, time. It was only in 1981 when then City Manager Ray Blair, and Mayor Pete Wilson, cooked up the idea of leaving the Social Security System and Medicare to save the city millions in matching contributions. They offered the employees SPSP as an enticement to vote for their plan. You see, instead of paying 7% to social security and another 1.5% to Medicare the City offered SPSP where it would only pay 3.05%. Additionally, the city, through its Retirement System, would have "access" to hundreds of millions of dollars. If they stayed in Social Security they lost control of the money immediately. To eliminate fears about losing retiree health care and enticing a yes vote for the proposal, the City promised retiree health care in lieu of Medicare. Then, instead of funding it via the general fund, the city illegally used so-called "investment profits" from its own Retirement System to fund it. They even gave it a special name..."the waterfall". We know there is no such thing as investment profits, investment returns from good years are designed to smooth out investment returns from bad years. So today the funding ratio has dropped and the the bill is due. Those reckless management decisions over the past 30-40 years are back. It's ironic, those decisions were made so long ago but are nearly the exact time horizon, 30-40 years, that retirement system use for their planing. Sadly not a single manager, nor politician who made those or initiated those decisions or actions is held accountable. But everyone is screaming for their pound of flesh, all from the backsides of hard working employees who were doing their jobs 30 and 40 years ago. I find it very difficult to stomach the revisionist histories whether they are from Carl DeMaio or our prolific poster, Surf Puppy. A.k.a. Billy Bob Henry and Johnny Vegas, especially when those posts that are purported as truth. Today, proof of such claims are easily found and verified using the very tool he uses to spread fabrications . So Don, as I have stated before, and as you defined in previous threads, Surf Puppy is an Internet Troll. A person looking for attention who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages, with the primary intent of provoking others into an emotional response.
— January 21, 2010 7:49 a.m.

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