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Paying Housewives

...also refried, do you realize the example you used about being fired, totally proved my point? You see, had you been a woman, you would INSIST that is why women make less. Because when they ask for more, they are fired. Yet, the reality is...if you ask for more, two things happen. You'll either get more, or you'll be fired (or, you'll be told no, and just be an unhappy employee, which both parties know won't work well). When I worked in the post office (as I've said before, the females paid the same, often did less work)....one cute gal named Makia, got weekends off. She had just started there, and everyone was mad about this. Everybody else got two days off, but they weren't on weekends. Only people with high seniority got those. She made the mistake of telling someone that the reason she got weekends off was she told them in the job interview, that on weekends she takes care of a disabled aunt, which was a lie. When other employees saw her at clubs on weekends, they ratted her out to the bosses, who did nothing about it. THey were all upset. And as I told them, "Don't be mad at Makia. It's not her fault. She made a demand, and they gave it to her. You can tell the bosses you have a sick relative. Or, you can tell them you've worked here 3 years longer than Makia, and should have the option of getting weekends off." They're response was, "Well...they won't care." Well then...you can quit. Or you can first tell them they'll be losing some good employees, because they are treating them unfairly. Now, Makia was a woman. And she was African-American. Those two things had NOTHING to do with why she was getting special treatment from bosses (three of which were black, two were white, two were Latino, two were Philippino). It had to do with her asking for something and getting it. It's what makes the world go 'round.
— May 12, 2009 10:48 a.m.

Paying Housewives

refried...I have spoken to 100 women on the subject. A majority of them feel women make less, because they hear these stats. But guess what? When I ask them about their jobs, they ALWAYS told me they were paid the same, or more, than male co-workers. Why do you think that is? Am I saying a woman has to beg for a raise? Are you insane? Most companies don't just give raises, people ask for them. And, if there's a difference (and the stats I provided show there is)...men ask for them more often. Whether that's playing a game of Boggle for money or becoming teachers, or whatever. And, think about what rickeysays said. Why would a woman not ask for more money if she's underpaid? It's a free market. If you aren't paid what you're worth, go to another place of employement. The problem you, and most of society, have is that you hear these stats, and just immediate think the world is a horrible place. Instead of analyzing what these stats mean. Now, when I hear that businesses won't hire African-Americans as much as Caucasians, I thought about that. And I figured that was probably true. Becuase if most bosses that do the hiring are white, they probably felt more comfortable hiring a white person, even if they are no more qualified then the black person they interviewed the day before. So I totally support programs that make sure businesses have a certain percentage of African-Americans working for them (although I sometimes fault the way they go about these things, or the way someone like Jesse Jackson tries to bully companies into paying him, instead of actually hiring more African-Americans, or he'll threaten boycotts). So, with race...this country still has problems in the hiring. With gender, they do not. As we all know, a business is in the job of making money. And 90% of the time, they don't give a crap about the employee. They just want to make money off them. If they could pay them minimum wage, they would. So, if they can get away with paying someone less (a woman, or a meek man that won't ask for a raise)...they're going to do it. It's up to a woman, to ask for more. If she doesn't, it's really hard to have sympathy. Or to act like there's some kind of problem with the world.
— May 12, 2009 10:43 a.m.

Mike Tyson and Other Documentaries

Okay SD...you have to see Crazy Love now, just to tell anti how insane that woman is. Because, any woman that could watch this and condone the relationship, is beyond me. It makes women look pathetic. No man would stay with a woman that went Lorena Bobbit on him. Roger and Me was Moore's best. Very enjoyable. And I loved his show, TV Nation. But, to site his website as a place where he defends his critics. Come on. This is a guy who has made over $100 million, and kept all that money. Why doesn't he give most of it away, like he feels the Republicans should? He is a guy that says our health care system ranks really low (what was it...in the 30s?) And he says Cuba is higher. C'mon, that's crap. Even to say Canada has a better system, is very deceptive, as if anyone does research (and you guys all seem so big on me doing research), you'll know that their system has a load of problems, including cancer patients that need immediate surgery, having to wait 8 months, or choosing to come here to get it done immediately! He also cuts documentaries so it looks like people say certain things at certain times. That's lame. If you can't make your argument by showing things the way they are, then don't make it. Anti...I'm not sure how you think I'm short sighted on my views. If people bring up valid points, I listen. And often I'll change my mind. I'm curious as to your opinion on the thread from a few days ago, about women supposedly making less than men. I'm pretty sure I already know your answer, but I'm curious.
— May 12, 2009 10:35 a.m.

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