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San Diego continues to reward bad behavior

So did the new version of the bailout include the language that Johnny Vegas quoted earlier for bailing out public retirement systems? That seems to make sense from the perspective that they already bail out private systems. By JF 6:46 a.m., Oct 4, 2008 > Report it ============================================ If you're referrign to the Fed's PBGC, the bailing out is substantially lower than stated/earned "retirements". Take a look at what happened to United Airlines (BTW-this could be you very soon JF); Court approves termination of United Airlines pension plans By Patrick Martin 13 May 2005 In a devastating blow to 122,000 workers and retirees, a federal bankruptcy judge ruled May 11 that United Airlines may default on its pension obligations and turn over control of its pension funds to a federal agency that is already swamped by corporate pension defaults. Judge Eugene Wedoff approved the airline management’s request to terminate four pension plans—for pilots, flight attendants, mechanics and other ground service workers. The $9.8 billion pension plan default is the largest in US history. The Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation will take over the plans, but federal regulations limit the amount of pension payments it can make to a maximum of about $45,000 a year. The highest paid UAL workers, such as pilots, will face pension cuts of up to 50 percent, while lower-paid workers could lose as much as 20 percent. http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/may2005/unit-m1…
— October 5, 2008 3:42 p.m.

San Diego continues to reward bad behavior

One little point, Don. You've let your hatred for the retirement system get in the way of truth again. Your writing implies that the city pays into DROP. That is not true. DROP is a tapping of the employee's own retirement. That percentage maxes out at 90%. It is not a flat out 90%. In fact a General Member cannot reach 90% at age 55 unless they start working for the city full time at age 19. But hey, what's a little exaggeration to make a point. ====================================== Hahaha...JF with more of his pie in the sky baloney to try to keep his scam going! BTW JF, where have you been at???? Now back to the action. JF, these pension scams are BKing the City, County State and Country, and DREOP is one the biggest scam going because you do NOT RETIRE!!!! You just keep on working, earning TWO, yes count them, TWO paychecks. That is ripping off the taxpayers. BTW, here you go JF, public pensions BKing the country: The Intergenerational Transfer of Public Pension Promises Robert Novy-Marx University of Chicago - Graduate School of Business Joshua D. Rauh University of Chicago - Graduate School of Business; National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) September 2, 2008 Chicago GSB Research Paper No. 08-13 Abstract: The value of pension promises already made by US state governments will grow to approximately $7.9 trillion in 15 years. We study investment strategies of state pension plans and estimate the distribution of future funding outcomes. We conservatively predict a 50% chance of aggregate underfunding greater than $750 billion and a 25% chance of at least $1.75 trillion (in 2005 dollars). Adjusting for risk, the true intergenerational transfer is substantially larger. Insuring both taxpayers against funding deficits and plan participants against benefit reductions would cost almost $2 trillion today, even though governments portray state pensions as almost fully funded. http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_i…
— October 2, 2008 6:07 p.m.

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