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If Chargers move to L.A., they'll have two losing teams
The tone of the rhetoric from Goodell makes it sound EXACTLY like they believe they have a God-given right to a big subsidy. It sounds like their thought process is "Well, the Raiders and Chargers have worked really, really hard to get stadiums in their cities but the cities haven't come through. So even though the NFL really, really wants the Raiders and Chargers to stay put the owners just might not have a choice. You don't really expect the owners to pay for the stadia by themselves, do you?" The NFL owners - and many fans - seem to view a huge public subsidy for a stadium as completely normal and expected. The tide needs to be reversed.— December 15, 2016 5:08 p.m.
If Chargers move to L.A., they'll have two losing teams
If the Chargers made some commitment to stay in SD they would have a LOT of fans here in SD. Falcouner and Roberts offered a generous public funding package (350M) for a new Mission Valley stadium which wouldn't have involved new taxes and would probably have been approved by voters. The Chargers insisted on a HUGE 1.15B public subsidy and insisted on downtown instead of Mission Valley.— December 15, 2016 4:48 p.m.
If Chargers move to L.A., they'll have two losing teams
Kroenke has to put a better team on the field. LA has had a much, much higher number of championship caliber pro or D1 college teams over the years. Any given year there are at least a couple of teams in LA who are serious title contenders - this year it's the Clippers and UCLA basketball. The Lakers, Dodgers, UCLA and USC all have loyal fan bases and have had all historically had many championship seasons in LA. LA's championship history is completely different from that of San Diego. LA teams have won dozens of major championships over the last 50 years - SD teams have won zilch. The Rams will have some fans ready to embrace them if they don't win - but not many. The Chargers will have ZERO loyal fans in LA unless they have a really good team.— December 15, 2016 8:54 a.m.
If Chargers move to L.A., they'll have two losing teams
Goodell was saying that the NFL wants to avoid teams moving "at all costs" but then on the other hand implies that if a city doesn't pay several hundred million towards a stadium then the team will obviously move.— December 14, 2016 9:58 p.m.
If Chargers move to L.A., they'll have two losing teams
If the city wanted to give me land worth hundreds of millions of dollars (or at least tens of millions) I don't think "infuriated" would be how I would feel.— December 14, 2016 1:22 p.m.
If Chargers move to L.A., they'll have two losing teams
How much is the land worth? It's 166 acres - is that right? Anyone know?— December 13, 2016 4:43 p.m.
If Chargers move to L.A., they'll have two losing teams
I still think the NFL wants the Chargers in SD not LA. Frankly, I still think the NFL never wanted ANY team in LA but Kroenke forced their hand. LA is more valuable to the NFL as a leverage play to extort tax dollars than LA is as a place to host football games.— December 13, 2016 11:14 a.m.
If Chargers move to L.A., they'll have two losing teams
It will be interesting to follow the money. Who's going to profit and how do they kick back some of that profit to the elected officials supporting this?— December 13, 2016 11:12 a.m.
If Chargers move to L.A., they'll have two losing teams
I usually look at these things assuming that billionaires (or at least 100 millionaires) aren't stupid. But at this point I'm really starting to think that the Spanos family might actually be stupid. These recent moves just don't seem to make any sense - whether I assume all they care about is money or even if I assume there is a real desire for Spanos to stay in SD. Why spend $10M and put everything in limbo for months working on a ballot measure which had zero chance of getting the required 2/3 vote? It seems to me after Kronke won the battle for LA the Spanos family should have either 1) worked out a deal with Kronke to move to LA, 2) worked out a deal with Faulconer for a taxpayer funded stadium that didn't require a 2/3 vote, or 3) sold the team. Wasting a lot of time and money on a ballot measure just to gauge public sentiment or stall doesn't make much sense to me from a business perspective.— December 13, 2016 11:10 a.m.
If Chargers move to L.A., they'll have two losing teams
There is no significant Charger fan base in LA. At best, the LA Chargers will be initially be the 5th most popular football team in LA if they move there (behind the Rams, Bruins, Trojans, and Galaxy). Heck, maybe Mater Dei or LB Poly high schools have more fans than the Chargers will. There will be lots of fans of other NFL teams in LA who will surely outnumber Chargers fans at most LA Charger games - unless the Chargers can somehow manage to put together a championship contender someday.— December 12, 2016 4:53 p.m.