Dorian Hargrove April 24, 2012 @ 1:10 p.m.

TrueJustice, I asked the City Attorney for the cost of litigation and this was the response from Gina Coburn, communications director for the City Attorney: "This case has been in litigation since 2007, but it has all been in-house and the city is not charged separately for it."

I will try to find the number of staff hours.




TrueJustice April 24, 2012 @ 12:55 p.m.


I wonder if you could find out how much the City spent/wasted on the GGH MAD litigation. At some point they will have to disclose it if they are seeking damages in the suit against SCI but it would be nice to know sooner.

Thanks for your wonderful coverage of this saga.


Founder April 23, 2012 @ 6:53 p.m.

The answer is YES!

The City has lots of Lawyers, the citizens do not...

Their tactics are to delay, delay, delay any settlement until those that have made these poor decisions are Out of Office...


Founder April 23, 2012 @ 6:47 p.m.

Well written! That is just one of the reasons that more folks do not go to Council Meetings!


goldenhillhomeowner April 22, 2012 @ 7:07 p.m.

Clearly, with this proposal Mr. Goldsmith has staked out a position that is hostile to the very people who pay for city government - taxpayers. Mr. Goldsmith is able to make this proposal because no one is running against him in his bid for re-election as City Attorney. In fact, most people are unaware he is even up for re-election.

The saving grace is that the proposal can't get approved without a vote of city council, some of whom are up for re-election, and some of whom actually do have opponents. Moreover, the proposal, even if adopted by the city council, would be subject to a mayoral veto.

It is essential that those of us who oppose this horrible idea (probably the majority of San Diegoans) start writing letters and emails, and making phone calls. This proposal can be stopped with effective political opposition.


Founder April 23, 2012 @ 6:50 p.m.

RE: "the money has already been spent, so we can't pay it back."

If the City sent us some money and later found that it was in error, ... I bet we could not use that excuse!


Founder April 21, 2012 @ 6:44 p.m.

$URE Todd is not running against anyone now, so he can now be the poster boy for all those that are now in charge of our Cities future DEBT!


nostalgic April 21, 2012 @ 4:31 p.m.

For people who work, running to the city council every week to protect our rights make it impossible to do it all. Todd Gloria said "the money has already been spent, so we can't pay it back." The City Attorney's office adds the supporting argument.


Founder April 26, 2012 @ 9:03 a.m.

Remember PLEASE that the Boards that "run" MAD's should be ELECTED by Sub Districts (of the Mad) and not "at large" since the money needs to be spent fairly though out the District instead of "just" in the Business District!

Too many times we have seen those friendly to the Council Person placed on Boards by the Friends of the supporters of the Council Person...

Another Safe Guard would be to have a different Sub District act as Chairman of the Board every year, to insure that no Dynasties are formed...


dchand April 26, 2012 @ 3:11 p.m.

I have said over and over, do not let the government do things for you. Do it privately. It is cheaper and if you do not like the work, you can fire them easily. The GG MAD found that out the hard way. I am a good business man and family wealthy. Remember the city manager of Ball California got a salary of $800,000.00 plus benefits and pension and whatever he could steal. He was too greedy and got caught stealing. My son, who is a doctor told me of the director of a hospital north of San Diego whose salary is over $1,000,000.00 a year plus benefits and pension. I know what they do, they sit on their butt in an office and sign papers mostly. We cannot continue to print paper money. The Weimar Republic of Germany tried it and went broke and was over thrown. We are one step behind Greece and Europe. George Meany head of the AF of L CIO in the early1900s and FDR, a very liberal Democrat president said that government workers should not be allowed to unionize with collective bargaining rights. Well they did and all of the city, county, state and the Federal governments are bankrupt. We are one step behind Greece and all of Europe. I am a eight year graduate of a tough Catholic Jesuit University. I am not a Catholic. Those Jesuits are tough. I am a physician . I quit medicine on my 58th birthday. I could do better in business and not be called out at night. We are headed for a depression worse than the one in the 1930s Believe it.


historymatters April 26, 2012 @ 3:24 p.m.

the crazy thing is Dumanis was given a pile of documents by the FBI, plenty to convict this guy and she decided the claim was "baseless" despite the FBI saying the contrary...

he should be in prison. Instead he is creating new taxes and putting himself on the payroll...kinda like Toni Atkins...should be in prison instead is proposing a bill that will cost taxpayers 1.4 billion dollars to go to MORE housing. This as our state parks are being sold to developers.


historymatters April 26, 2012 @ 3:21 p.m.

Im not surprised Todd loves it. He loves building parking lots and putting in new meters everywhere so citizens will be hounded w/ parking fees everywhere they go. The provision about providing "parking facilities" scares me. seems that D3 has turned into 1 giant paid parking lot thanks to Todd Gloria. Land that could have been turned into community gardens...paid parking lots.


Founder April 26, 2012 @ 9:25 a.m.

I strongly believe that ALL MAD's should have:

  1. A LIFETIME of no more than 10 years, that way voters know they will not be held hostage "forever", how many residents live in one spot for 20 to 30 years?

  2. A FIXED LIMIT on how much the MAD's Fee is raised in any given year, while it is common to "link" any requested increases to the CPI, what happens if the CPI goes crazy?

  3. A MAJORITY of residential Board Seats since the residents are the most often abused by the well funded business who have BID's promoting the Council Office for favors...

  4. All meeting should be "run" under the Brown Act, to keep behind Closed Door Decisions from happening!

  5. All engineering reports should be prioritized so that the most important projects get funded EVERY MONTH instead of some "favorite" project in one small corner of the MAD.


sswvjt April 26, 2012 @ 9:15 a.m.

I find it just a bit more than coincidental that none of these proposals to supposedly benefit the "community" ever seem to be mentioned, let alone explored in any kind of depth, on any major news outlet. If people were more readily made aware of these schemes, then perhaps it might be a little more difficult for schemers like Mr. Li Mandri and his minions on the city council to pick our pockets. Just wondering also why people such as Mr. Li Mandri and his ilk are given these forums to further their own interests under the banner of serving the greater good? As stated in an earlier post above, let these people sell their ideas to the public. That's not likely to happen, because they already know the public won't buy them, so the next step is to get the government to shove them down our throats. This can only work if the government has sold out to special interests and the people are kept uninformed.


GHH April 25, 2012 @ 7:26 p.m.

JustWondering writes: "I question the notion government is collecting less because of Prop 13. Government is just spending well beyond it means because no one is really accountable."

Dan Walters, of The Sacramento Bee, wrote a piece on October 11, 2011, titled, "Financial facts don't back anti-Proposition 13 propaganda." His research is enlightening:

"In 1977-78, according to the State Board of Equalization, schools and local governments collected $10.3 billion in property taxes. The amount plummeted to $4.9 billion in 1978-79 as Proposition 13 cut the average property tax rate by more than half.
By 2010-11, however, property tax collections had risen to precisely 10 times as much – $49 billion per year – due to new construction and re-evaluation of existing property, even though the property tax rate was fixed at slightly over 1 percent.
During that same 33-year period, state general fund revenue, principally sales and income taxes, increased sevenfold – scarcely two-thirds the property tax revenue growth rate. Incidentally, inflation and population growth combined were about 400 percent during that same period, less than half the expansion in property taxes.
Obviously, the assertion that Proposition 13 has been an unconscionable barrier to revenue growth doesn't hold up."

Yes, JustWondering, our Government is - at all levels - just spending well beyond its means, and it has hog-tied us (five years in court to undo the illegal Golden Hill MAD), to prevent us from holding them accountable. Mr. Walter's article provides a healthy and very interesting dose of reality regarding the taxation frenzy of our California politicians. Read the rest of it at


InOmbra April 25, 2012 @ 6:34 p.m.

And here's Marco!

Starting at 00:5:33, Marco...go on, and at and 00:6:15 and 00:06:50, see Marco's admissions that the code he wrote in 1998 and 2003 has "some problems." Ha ha!

Watch Marco nervously scratch and fidget. Watch Marti and Todd love them some Marco. Write your City Attorney and tell him what you think. And yes, if you keep watching, you see Marti talking to Hueso's brother about his taxi cab business.


news92101 April 25, 2012 @ 6:18 p.m.

Please continue to monitor SB 949... Juan Vargas is running for Congress.... and has for now let the bill be... but watch out.... after the November Election.... he could push for quick voting.... Your voice counts.... write your opposition to this Bill to Vargas office..


InOmbra April 25, 2012 @ 5:52 p.m.

San Diego council loves scoundrels like Li Mandri and Zucchet.

Why? Why can't San Diego pols and our council hall be the nexus of an honest, clean, transparent, demanding take-no-s*** government?

We could do so much with a reputation that transcends Enron-by-the-sea. The payoff would be HUGE!

Start now. This day, this minute.


GHH2 April 25, 2012 @ 5:44 p.m.

Li Mandri is a schemer who, as owner of a private, profit making entity has no right whatsoever to put his hands into the taxpayer's pocket. If he has such good ideas he needs to market them AND SELL THEM TO THE PUBLIC...who can then decide whether they want to buy what he is selling, OR NOT. Doing it through property tax additions/manipulations is out and out piracy. And the council members who support this are co-conspirators and need to be held accountable. They are stewards of the public's treasure and have a duty to ensure that the public's money is spent wisely. When was the last time an audit was performed on where our Property taxes are spent and how? We need to have an audit to see if our public officials are acting responsibly and wisely. And if they are not, they need to be thrown out of office. Everyone is going through hard times and having to make hard decisions. Decisions on what are priorities and what are non-essential's. And I can see no reason whatsoever that our public officials be exempted from these hard times and hard decisions. if they can't come up with more efficient and creative ways to do their jobs then they need to stop sucking at the public teat and step aside to let other, more worthy people serve the public. Remember that. You are public servants, not rulers.


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