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Horton Homeless Haven?

Faulconer proposal aims to “make Macy’s make some spacey.”

Back in May, boosters of San Diego’s downtown rejoiced at the news that the near-derelict Horton Plaza Mall would be redeveloped into a hi-tech campus by Stockdale Capital Partners, which purchased the formerly fabulous shopping center from Westfield for $175 million. But that plan hit a snag last week, when Macy’s, one of the mall’s sole remaining tenants, filed suit to stop the developer, citing both its lease and contractual agreements that require its approval for property improvements.

This week, Mayor Faulconer responded to the suit with a new proposal. “Okay, so we can’t make any improvements. So how about we make things substantially worse? Every week, there’s another rash of problems related to the members of San Diego’s homeless community, many of whom choose to live downtown. And here, we’ve got over a million square feet of unused space, right in the heart of the Gaslamp, just waiting for folks to come and hunker down along its many empty sidewalks and abandoned storefronts. Best of all, it’s almost entirely contained. A couple of electronic fences, and we’ve got us a new kind of gated community. Everybody wins. Well, everybody who’s not in Horton Plaza. Your move, Mr. Macy.”

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Unbelievable....,even if almost factual.... Macy’s is out of their mind.......the place is a derelict haven.....and they aren’t going to have customers who have to worry about being robbed or assaulted walking to the store....just let it go for crying out loud.

Nov. 1, 2019

"(for) Crying out loud" is long gone; that's the 1970s time-line. There's no more emotions in this insecure society, anymore. You gotta get updated; the modern behavior method be YELLING OUT LOUD, now that modern society lives by cell-phones. Horton is near the Bus/Trolley/Rails ---- maybe this means that eventually Horton will become low-income apts? In San Diego county, public transit is exclusively for the poor/low income.

Nov. 1, 2019

I substituted crying out loud for other less appropriate terminology......the rest of your comment is spot on.

Nov. 1, 2019

This lawsuit by Macy's is misunderstood. They don't want to hold up the conversion; the company is run by realists. Yet with the closure of all or nearly all of the retail in the mall, it no longer has a draw. No, what Macy's wants is MONEY, as in a buyout settlement. And I'd guess that they will get one, probably not as generous as they think they should receive, but enough to take the big sting out of closing yet another store.

Nov. 2, 2019

They may as well take whatever is offered. Nobody is going to shop in that bum infested cesspool area.

Nov. 3, 2019

None

Nov. 3, 2019

oops, wrong upload. Redid it.

Nov. 3, 2019

Is that why in recent issues you have been more low-key~ ?

Nov. 3, 2019

Speaking of close distance within public transit: Who's SO SLOWLY tearing apart that Babies R Us of La Mesa? (Property sandwiched between Fletcher Pkwy & the trolley tracks). As if it's never gonna be a complete destruction; it's just a visual attraction to homeless.

Nov. 2, 2019

Rumors a while back was that it was being redeveloped into a Costco gas station. La Mesa is always building something, not much vacancy in that city.

Nov. 3, 2019

I heard that Chick-fil-A has its eyes on the Macy's space there, to open the largest outlet in California. Their spokesperson Franny Feathers, said that "we welcome all customers, including the LGBTQ+ community, but we do ask that transgenders and "drag queens" wear respectable attire in our restaurants, so they don't scare children."

Nov. 3, 2019

Speaking of Chick-fil-A, the popularity of their chicken sandwiches [I've never had one] has resulted in 4 sizes: small, medium, large and Man, You're a Pig!

Nov. 3, 2019

The SAN DIEGO COUNTY LANDMARK (aged for decades) -- that almost be completely gone: [as Google is poor in updating which actually remain open]: BOLL WEEVIL; one of the few Half-Pound Patty Hamburgers; the tray of toppings served -- that no other matches. VS the current hamburger mass-market be of One-Third Pound patty.

Nov. 3, 2019

I don't know how far back in time you go, but I remember those Boll Weevil burgers when they were 69 cents. Gasoline was as low as 23 cents a gallon at that time. How things change.

Nov. 4, 2019

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Artist’s rendering of Macy’s future neighbors, should it fail to make way for proposed tech campus at Horton Plaza. “Is this the kind of hobo chic that’s good for the Macy’s brand?” asked Mayor Faulconer as he presented the image. “Because we’ve got plenty here in San Diego, and we’re happy to share.”
Artist’s rendering of Macy’s future neighbors, should it fail to make way for proposed tech campus at Horton Plaza. “Is this the kind of hobo chic that’s good for the Macy’s brand?” asked Mayor Faulconer as he presented the image. “Because we’ve got plenty here in San Diego, and we’re happy to share.”

Back in May, boosters of San Diego’s downtown rejoiced at the news that the near-derelict Horton Plaza Mall would be redeveloped into a hi-tech campus by Stockdale Capital Partners, which purchased the formerly fabulous shopping center from Westfield for $175 million. But that plan hit a snag last week, when Macy’s, one of the mall’s sole remaining tenants, filed suit to stop the developer, citing both its lease and contractual agreements that require its approval for property improvements.

This week, Mayor Faulconer responded to the suit with a new proposal. “Okay, so we can’t make any improvements. So how about we make things substantially worse? Every week, there’s another rash of problems related to the members of San Diego’s homeless community, many of whom choose to live downtown. And here, we’ve got over a million square feet of unused space, right in the heart of the Gaslamp, just waiting for folks to come and hunker down along its many empty sidewalks and abandoned storefronts. Best of all, it’s almost entirely contained. A couple of electronic fences, and we’ve got us a new kind of gated community. Everybody wins. Well, everybody who’s not in Horton Plaza. Your move, Mr. Macy.”

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Unbelievable....,even if almost factual.... Macy’s is out of their mind.......the place is a derelict haven.....and they aren’t going to have customers who have to worry about being robbed or assaulted walking to the store....just let it go for crying out loud.

Nov. 1, 2019

"(for) Crying out loud" is long gone; that's the 1970s time-line. There's no more emotions in this insecure society, anymore. You gotta get updated; the modern behavior method be YELLING OUT LOUD, now that modern society lives by cell-phones. Horton is near the Bus/Trolley/Rails ---- maybe this means that eventually Horton will become low-income apts? In San Diego county, public transit is exclusively for the poor/low income.

Nov. 1, 2019

I substituted crying out loud for other less appropriate terminology......the rest of your comment is spot on.

Nov. 1, 2019

This lawsuit by Macy's is misunderstood. They don't want to hold up the conversion; the company is run by realists. Yet with the closure of all or nearly all of the retail in the mall, it no longer has a draw. No, what Macy's wants is MONEY, as in a buyout settlement. And I'd guess that they will get one, probably not as generous as they think they should receive, but enough to take the big sting out of closing yet another store.

Nov. 2, 2019

They may as well take whatever is offered. Nobody is going to shop in that bum infested cesspool area.

Nov. 3, 2019

None

Nov. 3, 2019

oops, wrong upload. Redid it.

Nov. 3, 2019

Is that why in recent issues you have been more low-key~ ?

Nov. 3, 2019

Speaking of close distance within public transit: Who's SO SLOWLY tearing apart that Babies R Us of La Mesa? (Property sandwiched between Fletcher Pkwy & the trolley tracks). As if it's never gonna be a complete destruction; it's just a visual attraction to homeless.

Nov. 2, 2019

Rumors a while back was that it was being redeveloped into a Costco gas station. La Mesa is always building something, not much vacancy in that city.

Nov. 3, 2019

I heard that Chick-fil-A has its eyes on the Macy's space there, to open the largest outlet in California. Their spokesperson Franny Feathers, said that "we welcome all customers, including the LGBTQ+ community, but we do ask that transgenders and "drag queens" wear respectable attire in our restaurants, so they don't scare children."

Nov. 3, 2019

Speaking of Chick-fil-A, the popularity of their chicken sandwiches [I've never had one] has resulted in 4 sizes: small, medium, large and Man, You're a Pig!

Nov. 3, 2019

The SAN DIEGO COUNTY LANDMARK (aged for decades) -- that almost be completely gone: [as Google is poor in updating which actually remain open]: BOLL WEEVIL; one of the few Half-Pound Patty Hamburgers; the tray of toppings served -- that no other matches. VS the current hamburger mass-market be of One-Third Pound patty.

Nov. 3, 2019

I don't know how far back in time you go, but I remember those Boll Weevil burgers when they were 69 cents. Gasoline was as low as 23 cents a gallon at that time. How things change.

Nov. 4, 2019

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