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County supervisors vote against adult pot use

“There’s overwhelming reason to oppose" Prop 64

With San Diego County district attorney Bonnie Dumanis and sheriff Bill Gore in attendance, the San Diego County Board of Supervisors voted unaminously on Tuesday, October 4, against Proposition 64.

In a move that drew criticism, county supervisors vice chair Dianne Jacob didn’t place Proposition 64 on Tuesday’s agenda until the previous Friday.

In the November election, Proposition 64 — the Adult Use of Marijuana Act — would legalize use of marijuana and hemp in the state, as well as sales and cultivation.

Numerous San Diegans spoke at the County Administration Center on Harbor Drive, where the meeting was held, including Lee Lambert.

“I grew up in this city and, yes, I once was involved with the drug culture,” said Lee, dressed in a black Gulls shirt. “If it wasn’t for God touching my life in college, I don’t know where I’d be now. Whatever these people will tell you about pot, I can tell you firsthand, this drug is a gateway drug. Of the friends that I’ve known there are quite a few that have died from drugs. More than half of them started with pot....

"[In Colorado] there are pot stores all over the City of Denver. People line up at 5 a.m. and start doing pot at the side of the road....

“I know a landlord of a rental in La Jolla, near La Jolla High School, who didn’t know his tenant was growing pot plants in there.... When he wanted to sell the property, he had to put a huge amount of money to develop and improve the property.”

Carol Green, a mother of 3 children who mentioned she had 16 nieces and nephews, also spoke: “We have a vision for the county we want to live in, a vision of a county that does promote good mental health, that has safe roads to drive on, that doesn’t promote sexual assaults and bad decision-making, and it promotes a live well and healthy environment for all of our citizens. If there is one proposition that does exactly the opposite of all we’ve been doing, that’s Prop 64. It sends the wrong message to children and youth.”

Darrell Cotton, an epileptic patient, uses cannabis oil under Prop 215 protections. Opiates are hard on his liver. “It’s life and death for me. I know hundreds of people who take [cannabis] for health issues,” he said. Still, he’s an anti-64.

“It’s not concise, it has a lot of contradictions,” he said. “There are meanings in words. [Proposition 64] is supposed to take down 215 and hand it over to big agriculture and big pharma....

“We don’t want to hand this massive industry to a government not prepared for it.... In terms of six gallons per water per day, per plant, we can’t tolerate that. There are other techniques like aquaponics. We use that for hops. We need to curb our water use.”

Martha Sullivan lives above her business in Old Town. She’s anti-prohibition.

“I want to point out that you’re putting this on your agenda Friday for discussion early this morning is really not good government and it’s not in the spirit of transparency and citizen participation,” she began.

“Prohibition of alcohol back in the first quarter of this century undermined the respect that people have for law enforcement because people went ahead and consumed alcohol,” she opined. “Eventually, Prohibition was overturned because people recognized it was ridiculous to enforce that prohibition as it undermined respect for law enforcement. The same thing has happened with marijuana.”

Prop 64 San Diego Chapter political consultant Antonio Ley, who attended the meeting, posted on Facebook shortly after: “Our ethnically diverse County Board of Supervisors voted unanimously to vote [against] Prop 64 based on absurd conclusions today about marijuana use.... Police officers target [persons of color] to look for warrants and sometimes deportations. I talked to Televisa and Univision today about how [persons of color] are six times more likely to be arrested for marijuana and how voting #Yeson64 helps our communities.”

Supervisor Jacob brought the motion to vote in favor of No on Prop 64.

“There’s overwhelming reason to oppose," she said, "and my intent in bringing it to the board is to get word out to our public, the people in San Diego County, that this is bad for San Diego.”

Bill Horn, veteran and representative for North San Diego County’s District 5, concurred: “I remember when I was a [commanding officer] of an artillery unit and had two Marines at a post who smoked pot,” he said. “I went out and visited their bodies because I found their throats cut by the North Vietnamese. They weren’t paying attention. And, since that day forward, I have been opposed to marijuana.”

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So they prefer everyone stick to drinking and driving? Fortunately this has all the weight of a fart in vacuum.

Oct. 4, 2016

When Gore, Bahnee and Bulldozer Bill Horn all line up to oppose anything, I'm sorely tempted to vote the other way. These elected officials all have their agendas, and too often those agendas have to do with staying in office as long as permitted, filling their pockets (although at their ages, you might hope that avarice and greed have faded), and making themselves remembered well by friends (if they have any.)

Make up your own mind based on your own experience and common sense. The county board of supervisors, the sheriff, and the DA all have their own biases, and frequently display them.

Oct. 4, 2016

That's why Measure B, the supervisor term limits, was called the "Bill Horn Initiative." The voters that were so tired of Horn's flock re-electing him they found a way to get him out by limiting terms.

Oct. 4, 2016

Ponzi, I suppose you are aware that right from the beginning, the majority of Horn's Valley Center neighbors didn't vote for him. His support comes from the urban part of his district, which is heavily incorporated. He gets elected by San Marcos, Carlsbad, Vista, and Oceanside. The voters in those cities are far more affected by the actions of their city councils and mayors, and don't really tune in to Bill's foibles.

Oct. 5, 2016

I hope the idiot Board votes against getting in bed with the Chargers nonsense. If the stupid Charger fans and idiot San Diego voters want a stadium fine but keep the County out of it.

Oct. 5, 2016

If someone is "free", that must include the freedom to ingest substances that aren't good for them. There is no moral support for the "War on Drugs"... the intention was to go after the effects of drug use, and has failed badly.

Legalize it. Tax it. Bring it out into the light. If someone wants to blaze away 24/7, that's their business. If they then want to do something stupid or criminal, there are laws for that. get stoned and drive? Already illegal. Commit burglaries to buy dope? Already illegal. Want to give pot to a kid? Illegal.

Stop the hand-wringing. Time for the nattering ninnies to shut up. Don't want to use pot? Don't. But you don't have a right for nobody else to use it because you disapprove.

Oct. 5, 2016

Does anyone care that the County Supes voted against 64 at a meeting? What counts are votes on election day. They are idiots, and should all resign.

Oct. 5, 2016

At their age, I'm sure they were influenced by the propaganda movie "Reefer Madness." Thing is, if they would toke, Diane Jacobs wouldn't scowl... she would smile. Same with Ron Roberts. It would be a problem for Horn because he is already morbidly obese, so getting the munchies might pack his arteries with more fat than he has now.

Oct. 5, 2016

None

Oct. 6, 2016

Every civilization has had two constants: religion and drugs. Legislate all you want, you aren't going to change that. China is trying to wipe out a religious movement, as the USSR tried a while back- it doesn't work. No country has ever prevented drug use either, although some Arab countries come close. (Maybe the Philippines will succeed?)

Pot is a good alternative to alcohol. Some people get violent with alcohol, as domestic abuse sufferers know. Few become violent under marijuana. That alone speaks well for legalizing it and encouraging a switch.

Oct. 6, 2016

You're correct. I don't know the statistics, but besides the carnage of drunk driving, it's obvious that alcohol is behind a good proportion of violence, domestic violence and just plain stupid behavior.

Pot smokers are like Islam, a gentle people. (Just joking). But anyway, people who use pot tend to be more concerned when the Pizza Hut delivery guy is going to arrive than picking fights or driving on sidewalks.

Oct. 6, 2016

Yes, and they'd much rather listen to Yanni or Pink than old Ted Nugent or Anita Bryant albums. ;-)

Oct. 6, 2016

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With San Diego County district attorney Bonnie Dumanis and sheriff Bill Gore in attendance, the San Diego County Board of Supervisors voted unaminously on Tuesday, October 4, against Proposition 64.

In a move that drew criticism, county supervisors vice chair Dianne Jacob didn’t place Proposition 64 on Tuesday’s agenda until the previous Friday.

In the November election, Proposition 64 — the Adult Use of Marijuana Act — would legalize use of marijuana and hemp in the state, as well as sales and cultivation.

Numerous San Diegans spoke at the County Administration Center on Harbor Drive, where the meeting was held, including Lee Lambert.

“I grew up in this city and, yes, I once was involved with the drug culture,” said Lee, dressed in a black Gulls shirt. “If it wasn’t for God touching my life in college, I don’t know where I’d be now. Whatever these people will tell you about pot, I can tell you firsthand, this drug is a gateway drug. Of the friends that I’ve known there are quite a few that have died from drugs. More than half of them started with pot....

"[In Colorado] there are pot stores all over the City of Denver. People line up at 5 a.m. and start doing pot at the side of the road....

“I know a landlord of a rental in La Jolla, near La Jolla High School, who didn’t know his tenant was growing pot plants in there.... When he wanted to sell the property, he had to put a huge amount of money to develop and improve the property.”

Carol Green, a mother of 3 children who mentioned she had 16 nieces and nephews, also spoke: “We have a vision for the county we want to live in, a vision of a county that does promote good mental health, that has safe roads to drive on, that doesn’t promote sexual assaults and bad decision-making, and it promotes a live well and healthy environment for all of our citizens. If there is one proposition that does exactly the opposite of all we’ve been doing, that’s Prop 64. It sends the wrong message to children and youth.”

Darrell Cotton, an epileptic patient, uses cannabis oil under Prop 215 protections. Opiates are hard on his liver. “It’s life and death for me. I know hundreds of people who take [cannabis] for health issues,” he said. Still, he’s an anti-64.

“It’s not concise, it has a lot of contradictions,” he said. “There are meanings in words. [Proposition 64] is supposed to take down 215 and hand it over to big agriculture and big pharma....

“We don’t want to hand this massive industry to a government not prepared for it.... In terms of six gallons per water per day, per plant, we can’t tolerate that. There are other techniques like aquaponics. We use that for hops. We need to curb our water use.”

Martha Sullivan lives above her business in Old Town. She’s anti-prohibition.

“I want to point out that you’re putting this on your agenda Friday for discussion early this morning is really not good government and it’s not in the spirit of transparency and citizen participation,” she began.

“Prohibition of alcohol back in the first quarter of this century undermined the respect that people have for law enforcement because people went ahead and consumed alcohol,” she opined. “Eventually, Prohibition was overturned because people recognized it was ridiculous to enforce that prohibition as it undermined respect for law enforcement. The same thing has happened with marijuana.”

Prop 64 San Diego Chapter political consultant Antonio Ley, who attended the meeting, posted on Facebook shortly after: “Our ethnically diverse County Board of Supervisors voted unanimously to vote [against] Prop 64 based on absurd conclusions today about marijuana use.... Police officers target [persons of color] to look for warrants and sometimes deportations. I talked to Televisa and Univision today about how [persons of color] are six times more likely to be arrested for marijuana and how voting #Yeson64 helps our communities.”

Supervisor Jacob brought the motion to vote in favor of No on Prop 64.

“There’s overwhelming reason to oppose," she said, "and my intent in bringing it to the board is to get word out to our public, the people in San Diego County, that this is bad for San Diego.”

Bill Horn, veteran and representative for North San Diego County’s District 5, concurred: “I remember when I was a [commanding officer] of an artillery unit and had two Marines at a post who smoked pot,” he said. “I went out and visited their bodies because I found their throats cut by the North Vietnamese. They weren’t paying attention. And, since that day forward, I have been opposed to marijuana.”

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So they prefer everyone stick to drinking and driving? Fortunately this has all the weight of a fart in vacuum.

Oct. 4, 2016

When Gore, Bahnee and Bulldozer Bill Horn all line up to oppose anything, I'm sorely tempted to vote the other way. These elected officials all have their agendas, and too often those agendas have to do with staying in office as long as permitted, filling their pockets (although at their ages, you might hope that avarice and greed have faded), and making themselves remembered well by friends (if they have any.)

Make up your own mind based on your own experience and common sense. The county board of supervisors, the sheriff, and the DA all have their own biases, and frequently display them.

Oct. 4, 2016

That's why Measure B, the supervisor term limits, was called the "Bill Horn Initiative." The voters that were so tired of Horn's flock re-electing him they found a way to get him out by limiting terms.

Oct. 4, 2016

Ponzi, I suppose you are aware that right from the beginning, the majority of Horn's Valley Center neighbors didn't vote for him. His support comes from the urban part of his district, which is heavily incorporated. He gets elected by San Marcos, Carlsbad, Vista, and Oceanside. The voters in those cities are far more affected by the actions of their city councils and mayors, and don't really tune in to Bill's foibles.

Oct. 5, 2016

I hope the idiot Board votes against getting in bed with the Chargers nonsense. If the stupid Charger fans and idiot San Diego voters want a stadium fine but keep the County out of it.

Oct. 5, 2016

If someone is "free", that must include the freedom to ingest substances that aren't good for them. There is no moral support for the "War on Drugs"... the intention was to go after the effects of drug use, and has failed badly.

Legalize it. Tax it. Bring it out into the light. If someone wants to blaze away 24/7, that's their business. If they then want to do something stupid or criminal, there are laws for that. get stoned and drive? Already illegal. Commit burglaries to buy dope? Already illegal. Want to give pot to a kid? Illegal.

Stop the hand-wringing. Time for the nattering ninnies to shut up. Don't want to use pot? Don't. But you don't have a right for nobody else to use it because you disapprove.

Oct. 5, 2016

Does anyone care that the County Supes voted against 64 at a meeting? What counts are votes on election day. They are idiots, and should all resign.

Oct. 5, 2016

At their age, I'm sure they were influenced by the propaganda movie "Reefer Madness." Thing is, if they would toke, Diane Jacobs wouldn't scowl... she would smile. Same with Ron Roberts. It would be a problem for Horn because he is already morbidly obese, so getting the munchies might pack his arteries with more fat than he has now.

Oct. 5, 2016

None

Oct. 6, 2016

Every civilization has had two constants: religion and drugs. Legislate all you want, you aren't going to change that. China is trying to wipe out a religious movement, as the USSR tried a while back- it doesn't work. No country has ever prevented drug use either, although some Arab countries come close. (Maybe the Philippines will succeed?)

Pot is a good alternative to alcohol. Some people get violent with alcohol, as domestic abuse sufferers know. Few become violent under marijuana. That alone speaks well for legalizing it and encouraging a switch.

Oct. 6, 2016

You're correct. I don't know the statistics, but besides the carnage of drunk driving, it's obvious that alcohol is behind a good proportion of violence, domestic violence and just plain stupid behavior.

Pot smokers are like Islam, a gentle people. (Just joking). But anyway, people who use pot tend to be more concerned when the Pizza Hut delivery guy is going to arrive than picking fights or driving on sidewalks.

Oct. 6, 2016

Yes, and they'd much rather listen to Yanni or Pink than old Ted Nugent or Anita Bryant albums. ;-)

Oct. 6, 2016

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