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Director Alan Rickman talks up the virtues of A Little Chaos

Alan Rickman, director and star of A Little Chaos
Alan Rickman, director and star of A Little Chaos

A Little Chaos tells the story of Sabine De Barra (Kate Winslet), who convinces Andre Le Notre (Matthias Schoenaerts) to let her design one element of King Louis XIV’s garden at Versailles, despite her devotion to the titular diminutive disorder. Besides directing, Rickman gives a fine performance as the monarch in question.

Matthew Lickona: Is the King the secret star of this movie?

Alan Rickman: No, I think it’s absolutely Kate’s story. The king gives it a context, and he’s so powerful that it’s a very strong context, because it’s a world where she’s the only woman who’s got a job. The others are standing around curtseying. In a way, that’s the point of the film, to take somebody like Kate’s character, who couldn’t possibly have existed, and inject that fantasy element into a representation of a real world that did exist — but one in which this one man was all-powerful, but slept alone. That was the thing about him, and I suppose that’s the point of the last images, this single figure with everybody dancing around him as two people who have figured out who they are go off into the forest.

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A Little Chaos Official Trailer

ML: What about this project grabbed you and made you say, “Yes, this one”?

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AR: I don’t really know, because it’s a bit like choosing a part: they choose you. I couldn’t have imagined that I would have ever picked a narrative like this, because it’s so damned difficult in terms of all of the trappings, especially when it’s essentially a love story — and a simple one at that — but with this very complicated backdrop. Somebody should actually hit me over the head for saying, “This is the one I’ll do.”

ML: The film makes its own case, but I’m wondering if you could give your own thoughts on what the virtue is of “a little chaos.”

AR: Probably, I was going to say, certainly art or artistic pursuits, but maybe also in life, order and chaos have to kind of live together in order to make sense of each other. You don’t have chaos without knowing what order is. In a way, as ordered as Le Notre was, it’s having a chaotic element like Louis XIV that makes it possible. It’s a balancing act, I think, between the two. If I’m talking to young actors, I always find myself saying that discipline and freedom are two sides of the same coin, and it’s always a fight to get the two to somehow be together.

ML: Tell me about forming your sensibility as a director out of your experience as an actor.

AR: You get more and more aware of the circumstances you would wish to create. If you, as a director, can say, “I don’t know,” that actually makes actors feel confident in a director. Because you’re strong enough to say that: “I don’t know but we’ll get there.” And then to encourage actors to answer their own questions, so that you answer a question with, “What do you think?” It isn’t lazy; it’s helping an actor to commandeer the part.

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A very little chaos, and more's the pity. Kate Winslet stars in director Alan Rickman's story of a lady landscaper whose willingness to fiddle with man's imposition of order onto nature catches the eye of frustrated the Master Gardener tasked with giving the King of France a foretaste of heaven at Versailles. Why is he frustrated? Partly because if he messes up, he'll likely wind up as fertilizer; but mostly because his wife is a mean and faithless socialite. Widow Winslet has some romantic issues of her own, and so their budding romance — like the garden — sometimes seems doomed to wind up a mud-mired folly. Rickman the director keeps the action deliberate and composed and very rarely unexpected: a scene in which court ladies discuss their dead children provides a thrilling-but-rare departure from convention. Happily, Rickman the actor steals the show as a king reluctantly confronting his legacy — that is, what happens after His Majesty has ceased to bloom.

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ML: I told my children, “I’m interviewing Alan Rickman,” and they said, “You mean Professor Snape?” And I wondered if you would make a suggestion to children who grew up watching you in the Harry Potter films: what’s a film that they should look at to either expand or work against — or just to see Alan Rickman outside of — the role of Professor Snape?

AR: It would depend how old they were, and what they were allowed to watch.

ML: Say a 16-year-old boy with a pretty free hand.

AR: Well, he should certainly watch Dogma, and he should watch Galaxy Quest if he hasn’t already. That’s a genuinely funny film. And I’m just amazed by how much young people love Dogma. And there’s a little film I made with Sigourney Weaver called Snow Cake, about autism, that I love. Those three to get on with.

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Alan Rickman, director and star of A Little Chaos
Alan Rickman, director and star of A Little Chaos

A Little Chaos tells the story of Sabine De Barra (Kate Winslet), who convinces Andre Le Notre (Matthias Schoenaerts) to let her design one element of King Louis XIV’s garden at Versailles, despite her devotion to the titular diminutive disorder. Besides directing, Rickman gives a fine performance as the monarch in question.

Matthew Lickona: Is the King the secret star of this movie?

Alan Rickman: No, I think it’s absolutely Kate’s story. The king gives it a context, and he’s so powerful that it’s a very strong context, because it’s a world where she’s the only woman who’s got a job. The others are standing around curtseying. In a way, that’s the point of the film, to take somebody like Kate’s character, who couldn’t possibly have existed, and inject that fantasy element into a representation of a real world that did exist — but one in which this one man was all-powerful, but slept alone. That was the thing about him, and I suppose that’s the point of the last images, this single figure with everybody dancing around him as two people who have figured out who they are go off into the forest.

Video:

A Little Chaos Official Trailer

ML: What about this project grabbed you and made you say, “Yes, this one”?

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AR: I don’t really know, because it’s a bit like choosing a part: they choose you. I couldn’t have imagined that I would have ever picked a narrative like this, because it’s so damned difficult in terms of all of the trappings, especially when it’s essentially a love story — and a simple one at that — but with this very complicated backdrop. Somebody should actually hit me over the head for saying, “This is the one I’ll do.”

ML: The film makes its own case, but I’m wondering if you could give your own thoughts on what the virtue is of “a little chaos.”

AR: Probably, I was going to say, certainly art or artistic pursuits, but maybe also in life, order and chaos have to kind of live together in order to make sense of each other. You don’t have chaos without knowing what order is. In a way, as ordered as Le Notre was, it’s having a chaotic element like Louis XIV that makes it possible. It’s a balancing act, I think, between the two. If I’m talking to young actors, I always find myself saying that discipline and freedom are two sides of the same coin, and it’s always a fight to get the two to somehow be together.

ML: Tell me about forming your sensibility as a director out of your experience as an actor.

AR: You get more and more aware of the circumstances you would wish to create. If you, as a director, can say, “I don’t know,” that actually makes actors feel confident in a director. Because you’re strong enough to say that: “I don’t know but we’ll get there.” And then to encourage actors to answer their own questions, so that you answer a question with, “What do you think?” It isn’t lazy; it’s helping an actor to commandeer the part.

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Little Chaos *

thumbnail

A very little chaos, and more's the pity. Kate Winslet stars in director Alan Rickman's story of a lady landscaper whose willingness to fiddle with man's imposition of order onto nature catches the eye of frustrated the Master Gardener tasked with giving the King of France a foretaste of heaven at Versailles. Why is he frustrated? Partly because if he messes up, he'll likely wind up as fertilizer; but mostly because his wife is a mean and faithless socialite. Widow Winslet has some romantic issues of her own, and so their budding romance — like the garden — sometimes seems doomed to wind up a mud-mired folly. Rickman the director keeps the action deliberate and composed and very rarely unexpected: a scene in which court ladies discuss their dead children provides a thrilling-but-rare departure from convention. Happily, Rickman the actor steals the show as a king reluctantly confronting his legacy — that is, what happens after His Majesty has ceased to bloom.

Find showtimes

ML: I told my children, “I’m interviewing Alan Rickman,” and they said, “You mean Professor Snape?” And I wondered if you would make a suggestion to children who grew up watching you in the Harry Potter films: what’s a film that they should look at to either expand or work against — or just to see Alan Rickman outside of — the role of Professor Snape?

AR: It would depend how old they were, and what they were allowed to watch.

ML: Say a 16-year-old boy with a pretty free hand.

AR: Well, he should certainly watch Dogma, and he should watch Galaxy Quest if he hasn’t already. That’s a genuinely funny film. And I’m just amazed by how much young people love Dogma. And there’s a little film I made with Sigourney Weaver called Snow Cake, about autism, that I love. Those three to get on with.

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