Quantcast
4S Ranch Allied Gardens Alpine Baja Balboa Park Bankers Hill Barrio Logan Bay Ho Bay Park Black Mountain Ranch Blossom Valley Bonita Bonsall Borrego Springs Boulevard Campo Cardiff-by-the-Sea Carlsbad Carmel Mountain Carmel Valley Chollas View Chula Vista City College City Heights Clairemont College Area Coronado CSU San Marcos Cuyamaca College Del Cerro Del Mar Descanso Downtown San Diego Eastlake East Village El Cajon Emerald Hills Encanto Encinitas Escondido Fallbrook Fletcher Hills Golden Hill Grant Hill Grantville Grossmont College Guatay Harbor Island Hillcrest Imperial Beach Imperial Valley Jacumba Jamacha-Lomita Jamul Julian Kearny Mesa Kensington La Jolla Lakeside La Mesa Lemon Grove Leucadia Liberty Station Lincoln Acres Lincoln Park Linda Vista Little Italy Logan Heights Mesa College Midway District MiraCosta College Miramar Miramar College Mira Mesa Mission Beach Mission Hills Mission Valley Mountain View Mount Hope Mount Laguna National City Nestor Normal Heights North Park Oak Park Ocean Beach Oceanside Old Town Otay Mesa Pacific Beach Pala Palomar College Palomar Mountain Paradise Hills Pauma Valley Pine Valley Point Loma Point Loma Nazarene Potrero Poway Rainbow Ramona Rancho Bernardo Rancho Penasquitos Rancho San Diego Rancho Santa Fe Rolando San Carlos San Marcos San Onofre Santa Ysabel Santee San Ysidro Scripps Ranch SDSU Serra Mesa Shelltown Shelter Island Sherman Heights Skyline Solana Beach Sorrento Valley Southcrest South Park Southwestern College Spring Valley Stockton Talmadge Temecula Tierrasanta Tijuana UCSD University City University Heights USD Valencia Park Valley Center Vista Warner Springs

I-5 to get a few more drivers

United Express stops flights into Palomar Airport

Carlsbad terminal
Carlsbad terminal

United Airlines announced this week that it will be closing its operation at Palomar-McClellan Airport. Operated as United Express through their partner, SkyWest Airlines, the up-to-seven flights daily to LAX will cease sometime before April 2015. United was the only regularly scheduled airline to fly out of the Carlsbad airport.

This may be good news for area homeowners, who often oppose airport expansion — the same homeowners who purchased homes in the runway’s flight path. But for many holding tickets on United’s December 19 Flight 5346, they were surprised to learn of the change.

Christy from Cardiff says she travels through LAX on her way to Saskatchewan about two of three times a year. She chooses Palomar, even though a little more expensive than Lindbergh, so she doesn’t have to deal with the traffic and parking. “My travel is easier,” said Christy.

She said most impacted will be her employers at her office across the street from the field. “They often fly to Europe and always fly out of here for their flights out of LAX. They’ll pay up to $350 more just to not have to drive to L.A,” added Christy.

Fred says he flies through LAX about 20 times a year on business. This time he had his wife and two kids with him. They live in Carmel Valley, and though halfway between Lindbergh and Palomar, he thinks it is much more convenient to fly out of Palomar.

Blair was returning to his home in Houston. He regularly visits his mom in North County. “Now I’ll have to fly into San Diego and rent a car. I’ll miss this little airport,” he said.

Soon, the small ticketing terminal will be empty. United Airlines graphics and those of a planned California Pacific Airlines, which never got off the ground, will be all that remain. The airport, with its 4,897-foot runway, will remain open, in other parts of the field, to private aircraft operations, maintenance facilities, flight schools, and jet charters.

When Palomar first accepted commercial aircraft, America West Airlines serviced North County flyers with several daily flights to their hub in Phoenix. The cost of flights from Palomar to an America West destination was the same as out of Lindbergh, a marketing plus for the popular airline. America West service was shuttered when US Air bought it out in 2005.

Palomar’s convenience, ease of parking, lack of traffic, can be expensive. United charges more for their flights out of Carlsbad vs. San Diego. And sometimes offers long layovers, up to six hours, to connecting flights at LAX.

As an example, booking a round trip flight from Carlsbad to Chicago, from a Sunday to a Saturday, with a 21-day advance purchase, would cost $586 (Lowest non-red eye quoted by the airline’s website on December 19).

However, of the seven flights out of Carlsbad, only one had a less-than-two-hour layover in LAX. It was $645 round trip. The other flights, as low as $547, had an up to five hour, 35 minute layover, or added additional stops in Austin, Las Vegas, Oklahoma City, or Wichita.

United offers two nonstop flights from San Diego to Chicago for $476 roundtrip. Flights as low as $378 could be found with one stop in either Denver, Houston, LAX, or San Francisco.

The reason given for the pulling out of Carlsbad: SkyWest is transitioning out of its fleet of Brazilian-made, 30 passenger, turboprop Embraer 120 aircraft. New FAA regulations starting January 2015 will make slower planes like the Embraer less effective to operate, with the new regulations regarding pilot on-duty times.

Unfortunately for local homeowners, corporate planes and chartered jets, soon to be the airport’s mainstay business, have been increasing over the years. SurfAir, an all-you-can-fly membership airline began serving Carlsbad to seven California destinations on November 17, out of the Premier Executive Jet terminal.

Here's something you might be interested in.
Submit a free classified
or view all

Previous article

Building paradise in San Diego

Mission Valley, Tijuana gardens, Otay Mesa, downtown skyscrapers, One Paseo, Rancho Santa Fe mansion
Carlsbad terminal
Carlsbad terminal

United Airlines announced this week that it will be closing its operation at Palomar-McClellan Airport. Operated as United Express through their partner, SkyWest Airlines, the up-to-seven flights daily to LAX will cease sometime before April 2015. United was the only regularly scheduled airline to fly out of the Carlsbad airport.

This may be good news for area homeowners, who often oppose airport expansion — the same homeowners who purchased homes in the runway’s flight path. But for many holding tickets on United’s December 19 Flight 5346, they were surprised to learn of the change.

Christy from Cardiff says she travels through LAX on her way to Saskatchewan about two of three times a year. She chooses Palomar, even though a little more expensive than Lindbergh, so she doesn’t have to deal with the traffic and parking. “My travel is easier,” said Christy.

She said most impacted will be her employers at her office across the street from the field. “They often fly to Europe and always fly out of here for their flights out of LAX. They’ll pay up to $350 more just to not have to drive to L.A,” added Christy.

Fred says he flies through LAX about 20 times a year on business. This time he had his wife and two kids with him. They live in Carmel Valley, and though halfway between Lindbergh and Palomar, he thinks it is much more convenient to fly out of Palomar.

Blair was returning to his home in Houston. He regularly visits his mom in North County. “Now I’ll have to fly into San Diego and rent a car. I’ll miss this little airport,” he said.

Soon, the small ticketing terminal will be empty. United Airlines graphics and those of a planned California Pacific Airlines, which never got off the ground, will be all that remain. The airport, with its 4,897-foot runway, will remain open, in other parts of the field, to private aircraft operations, maintenance facilities, flight schools, and jet charters.

When Palomar first accepted commercial aircraft, America West Airlines serviced North County flyers with several daily flights to their hub in Phoenix. The cost of flights from Palomar to an America West destination was the same as out of Lindbergh, a marketing plus for the popular airline. America West service was shuttered when US Air bought it out in 2005.

Palomar’s convenience, ease of parking, lack of traffic, can be expensive. United charges more for their flights out of Carlsbad vs. San Diego. And sometimes offers long layovers, up to six hours, to connecting flights at LAX.

As an example, booking a round trip flight from Carlsbad to Chicago, from a Sunday to a Saturday, with a 21-day advance purchase, would cost $586 (Lowest non-red eye quoted by the airline’s website on December 19).

However, of the seven flights out of Carlsbad, only one had a less-than-two-hour layover in LAX. It was $645 round trip. The other flights, as low as $547, had an up to five hour, 35 minute layover, or added additional stops in Austin, Las Vegas, Oklahoma City, or Wichita.

United offers two nonstop flights from San Diego to Chicago for $476 roundtrip. Flights as low as $378 could be found with one stop in either Denver, Houston, LAX, or San Francisco.

The reason given for the pulling out of Carlsbad: SkyWest is transitioning out of its fleet of Brazilian-made, 30 passenger, turboprop Embraer 120 aircraft. New FAA regulations starting January 2015 will make slower planes like the Embraer less effective to operate, with the new regulations regarding pilot on-duty times.

Unfortunately for local homeowners, corporate planes and chartered jets, soon to be the airport’s mainstay business, have been increasing over the years. SurfAir, an all-you-can-fly membership airline began serving Carlsbad to seven California destinations on November 17, out of the Premier Executive Jet terminal.

Sponsored
Here's something you might be interested in.
Submit a free classified
or view all
Previous article

Albert Brooks’ mockinfomercial introduction

The glad-handing human laugh track, assures his audience, “That was funny.”
Next Article

Oceanside – eclecticism reigns

Oceanside Blvd. beach rip-rap, Fire Mountain incursion, airport death, growing up in Camp Pendleton housing, Oceanside Pier, Samoan gangs, Saint Malo, harbor vs. surfers
Comments
2

Anyone who buys a home in the flight path is an idiot providing, of course, that the airport was there first.

Dec. 21, 2014

Many locals are conflicted with this news. I won't miss those commuter craft passing over my house as they descend coming in from the north to line up for an east-west landing. (No, I'm not close enough to be under the flight path for all the traffic.) A few years ago it looked as if commuter service was at that airport to stay. The county ponied up the funds (how many $ millions did that cost?) to construct that sweet little terminal building, which replaced a much older and rather makeshift facility. Now it will go unused. Great planning and coordination on someone's part, but it's hard to figure whom to blame.

A couple decades ago, there was a developer touting investments in real estate in the vicinity of Palomar airport, claiming that it would be the "next Orange County" airport, referring to the huge growth that facility had experienced in the 60's and into the 70's. Oh, I need to mention that the ads ran in the LA area, not in San Diego. And they were less than truthful, because about 1980, the county sold off much of the land it owned that was north of the runway, which was developed for commercial use. Simply put, it would never be more than a commuter airport.

The cost and the layovers involved in using United Express kept me from ever using that airport, even though I'd have been willing to pay more to avoid the trip to Lindbergh and the cost of parking there. The price differential was large and the connections were not attractive. There's a wide open opportunity for some other commuter carrier or a start-up to fill the void. But don't count on that happening soon or ever.

Dec. 21, 2014

Sign in to comment

Sign in

Art Reviews — W.S. Di Piero's eye on exhibits Ask a Hipster — Advice you didn't know you needed Best Buys — San Diego shopping Big Screen — Movie commentary Blurt — Music's inside track Booze News — San Diego spirits City Lights — News and politics Classical Music — Immortal beauty Classifieds — Free and easy Cover Stories — Front-page features Excerpts — Literary and spiritual excerpts Famous Former Neighbors — Next-door celebs Feast! — Food & drink reviews Feature Stories — Local news & stories From the Archives — Spotlight on the past Golden Dreams — Talk of the town Here's the Deal — Chad Deal's watering holes Just Announced — The scoop on shows Letters — Our inbox [email protected] — Local movie buffs share favorites Movie Reviews — Our critics' picks and pans Musician Interviews — Up close with local artists Neighborhood News from Stringers — Hyperlocal news News Ticker — News & politics Obermeyer — San Diego politics illustrated Of Note — Concert picks Out & About — What's Happening Overheard in San Diego — Eavesdropping illustrated Poetry — The old and the new Pour Over — Grab a cup Reader Travel — Travel section built by travelers Reading — The hunt for intellectuals Roam-O-Rama — SoCal's best hiking/biking trails San Diego Beer News — Inside San Diego suds SD on the QT — Almost factual news Set 'em Up Joe — Bartenders' drink recipes Sheep and Goats — Places of worship Special Issues — The best of Sports — Athletics without gush Street Style — San Diego streets have style Suit Up — Fashion tips for dudes Theater Reviews — Local productions Theater antireviews — Narrow your search Tin Fork — Silver spoon alternative Under the Radar — Matt Potter's undercover work Unforgettable — Long-ago San Diego Unreal Estate — San Diego's priciest pads Waterfront — All things ocean Your Week — Daily event picks
4S Ranch Allied Gardens Alpine Baja Balboa Park Bankers Hill Barrio Logan Bay Ho Bay Park Black Mountain Ranch Blossom Valley Bonita Bonsall Borrego Springs Boulevard Campo Cardiff-by-the-Sea Carlsbad Carmel Mountain Carmel Valley Chollas View Chula Vista City College City Heights Clairemont College Area Coronado CSU San Marcos Cuyamaca College Del Cerro Del Mar Descanso Downtown San Diego Eastlake East Village El Cajon Emerald Hills Encanto Encinitas Escondido Fallbrook Fletcher Hills Golden Hill Grant Hill Grantville Grossmont College Guatay Harbor Island Hillcrest Imperial Beach Imperial Valley Jacumba Jamacha-Lomita Jamul Julian Kearny Mesa Kensington La Jolla Lakeside La Mesa Lemon Grove Leucadia Liberty Station Lincoln Acres Lincoln Park Linda Vista Little Italy Logan Heights Mesa College Midway District MiraCosta College Miramar Miramar College Mira Mesa Mission Beach Mission Hills Mission Valley Mountain View Mount Hope Mount Laguna National City Nestor Normal Heights North Park Oak Park Ocean Beach Oceanside Old Town Otay Mesa Pacific Beach Pala Palomar College Palomar Mountain Paradise Hills Pauma Valley Pine Valley Point Loma Point Loma Nazarene Potrero Poway Rainbow Ramona Rancho Bernardo Rancho Penasquitos Rancho San Diego Rancho Santa Fe Rolando San Carlos San Marcos San Onofre Santa Ysabel Santee San Ysidro Scripps Ranch SDSU Serra Mesa Shelltown Shelter Island Sherman Heights Skyline Solana Beach Sorrento Valley Southcrest South Park Southwestern College Spring Valley Stockton Talmadge Temecula Tierrasanta Tijuana UCSD University City University Heights USD Valencia Park Valley Center Vista Warner Springs
Close