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San Diego women who have converted to Islam

They should not display their beauty

Over the phone, Maureen Slater sounds like a soccer mom. She uses words like “jammies” instead of pajamas and laughs at her own jokes (“I’m smarter than my husband, ha-ha-ha”), some of which aren’t really jokes (“but seriously, he’d tell you the same thing”). She lifts weights two or three times per week on a home gym set up on the patio of her Paradise Hills home. Her hands are large and strong-looking, the nails cut to the quick, and she wears one thin band of diamonds at the first knuckle of her index finger. But few people will ever see her hands.

The most the general public will see of Maureen is the amber brown of her eyes and the smudge of liner she wears beneath her lower lashes. The rest remains covered — hands, feet, face, hair, all of her — when she shops for groceries, picks up her children from school, travels to and from work, or during any of her other daily activities outside the home.

Typically, Maureen wears a black, ankle-length, robelike covering called an abaya (in conversation, she refers to it as a “coat”), a black hijab (which covers her head and hair, her shoulders, and everything else down to her knees), and a niqab (a veil) over her face, leaving only a slit for her eyes. On her hands, she wears black gloves, and on her feet, a pair of cowboy boots or Doc Martens.

At our first meeting, however, Maureen is between hospice patients, and so she’s “dressed down” in a white knee-length tunic and matching pants, a bright-green scarf covering her head and hair, and a black veil covering her face. Her hands are bare, exposing the ring, the short nails, and her white skin. She leans forward, into my personal space, firmly grasps my hand in hers, and shakes.

Hidden though she is in what she calls her “private little room,” Maureen is candid and outspoken, the antithesis of what many assume of Muslim women, whether they choose to wear a face veil or not.

The 46-year-old mother of five converted to Islam from Catholicism 27 years ago — under her own conditions. “I was still going to wear makeup and wear bikinis and go to the beach and have a beer occasionally,” she says.

By the time she converted, she’d been married to her Egyptian Muslim husband for six months. He agreed to her conditions, saying that once she took the Shahada (the oath declaring belief in the oneness of Allah and the acceptance of Muhammad as God’s prophet), he trusted God to guide her if it was His will that she conduct herself differently.

Every step she’s since taken, graduating over the years from the masar (which covers the hair but leaves the neck exposed) to the hijab, and, finally, to the niqab (each step covering more of herself in public), has been her own choice. Although she’d once sworn she would “never, ever” wear the niqab, Maureen says the first time she wore one out in public “was like being on the computer and doing some work at home while you’re in your jammies.”

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“Say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear thereof.” (Qur’an 24.31)

Some Islamic scholars teach that the face veil is mandatory, while others believe that a woman covering even her hair is a personal choice, but all agree that modesty is an important part of the Islamic faith.

On the website IslamForToday.com, Syed Rahman published an article titled “Seven Conditions for Women’s Dress in Islam.” Women’s clothing, he writes, must cover everything but the hands and the face; the material must not be transparent; it must hang loose to hide the shape of the wearer; the design must not resemble men’s clothing or that of nonbelieving women; it must not consist of bold designs; and it should not be worn for the sole purpose of increasing one’s status or reputation.

My friend Ifrah explains Rahman’s “Seven Conditions” in her own words.

“You should wear something that’s not form-fitting and something that covers you up, so that when somebody looks at you, they can’t talk about your body shape or your beauty or what you lack or don’t lack.” The purpose, she says, “is for a woman to be judged on her abilities, her knowledge, her education, and her mind, not for how sexy she looks.”

To dress as such is to observe hijab. Not every Muslim woman interprets this modesty in the same way. In City Heights (home to many Muslims), some women wear black, brown, or dark-green solids, their long, shapeless head-to-toe coverings reminiscent of a nun’s habit. Others wear bright colors and patterns, kitten heels visible beneath their long skirts, topped off with gauzy scarves and giant, trendy sunglasses, all of it giving them a look somewhere between Erykah Badu and Audrey Hepburn.

For those born into Islam, most begin with a small, child-sized hijab between the ages of five and nine.

Dumb Questions, Mean Friends, and Transformers

A Tuesday morning in June, less than a week left to go in the school year. A fourth-grade classroom at Oak Park Elementary buzzes with a restlessness not typical of independent reading time. Whispers rise to a hum, and the teacher calls out from the back of the classroom, “I like the way Amal is reading quietly.”

Amal, a creamy brown-skinned girl in a black-and-gray hijab set with silver sequins, smiles behind her book. The rest of the class quiets down. When the teacher turns her attention to the reading group she is facilitating at the back of the class, Amal and the girl whose desk faces hers begin to kick each other under the table and giggle quietly behind the books still propped up in front of them.

Ten minutes later, the children line up for recess. Outside, some run to jump rope or to join four-square games already in progress. Amal and several other girls crowd around the backpacks, where one classmate is passing out Flamin’ Hot Cheetos.

A handful of other girls in hijab and jeans or hijab and long skirts dot the playground, some laughing out loud, some whispering quietly among friends. They are free. It’s recess time.

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The five teenage girls gathered around the oval table in a conference room at Hoover High represent a range of Muslimah (female Muslim) styles. Habiba (the only one of the five who chooses not to reveal her real name) wears a lavender masar, a black long-sleeved shirt, and a full lavender skirt. She says there’s no real reason her scarf isn’t tucked under her chin like Safiya’s across the table, except that, without a pin to hold in place, it’s annoying to keep tucking and retucking it all day long.

The sleeves of Safiyah’s brown (and slightly snug) button-up top reach only to her elbows. By most standards, she’s covered and clearly modest, but when I ask if her bare forearms are considered risqué, she grins with embarrassment and pulls at the sleeves, as if to will them longer. Only Hanifo, the quiet freshman in the dusky-blue waist-length hijab and the pale-blue skirt, would likely meet with the full approval of her mother.

“We have to cover our neck, our arms, everything from head to toe,” says Amina. “No skin.”

Amina is the one girl in the room whose head is not covered. She’s the dramatic type, dominating most of the conversation with stories about her sisters and various cousins and occasional attempts to one-up Safiya’s clear intellectualism with confusing explanations of the hows and whys of Islam for girls. Though she claims to love answering the questions of strangers about why Muslim women wear hijab, she struggles with that answer here and now.

“I don’t know how to explain it,” she says after a fumbled attempt at clarity. “It’s because of my religion.” This confusion might explain why so much of what she says she’s “supposed” to do is exactly the opposite of what she’s doing now.

“I’m not supposed to dress like this,” she says, indicating the plaid shirt with the top button secured just above her cleavage and the almost form-fitting, long, satiny skirt. “I’m supposed to wear clothes that don’t show my body shape. Because of the guys. So I don’t get the guys’ attention. That’s what we believe.”

Later, she remembers a play she saw at San Diego State University where a woman made the point that covering one’s head is not mandatory for Muslim women.

“She said it’s a choice,” Amina says incredulously. “But I believe it’s a ‘have-to’ even though I’m not wearing it.”

Safiya agrees. “It is a ‘have-to.’”

“Yeah,” says Habiba at the same time that Fadumo says, “It is.”

Although these girls believe that covering their hair is mandatory, each of the five remembers making the decision to wear the hijab on their own. Habiba wanted to wear one because her friends at Birney Elementary did. Fadumo said she was envious that her big sister wore one, so she asked her mother to buy her one too.

Safiya says she was proud to wear hers “because it’s part of who I am.” The only problem she had with other children at school was once when two girls ganged up on her, and one told the other to pull off Safiyah’s hijab. Neither girl dared to.

Amina pipes in, “When I was seven years old, people used to say, ‘Why do you have that?’ They used to question me. They’d say, ‘Take that towel off your head’ and stuff like that.”

The girls agree that despite a minor incident or insult here and there, kids in elementary school were mostly curious. In middle school, however, they became cruel.

“Middle-schoolers are the worst,” says Safiya.

“Ignorant,” says Habiba.

“Middle school was definitely the hardest,” confirms Fadumo.

The worst of it, they say, was the daily questions they had to answer, such as “Do you wear that in the shower?” and “Is that a tablecloth on your head?” Insults disguised as ignorance.

And then there was “Aren’t you hot?” mocks Safiya.

Every one of them groans. Two roll their eyes.

“It’s super thin,” says Habiba, clearly over the whole thing. Duh.

I don’t tell them that nearly every non-Muslim I’ve spoken to about hijab has wondered the same thing.

High-schoolers “don’t ask dumb questions,” says Amina. “They’re way more mature.”

Not always, though. During freshman year, a friend pulled off Fadumo’s hijab in the middle of class, in front of a bunch of boys.

“They were, like, ‘Can I see your hair?’ and I was, like, ‘No, you can’t see it. It’s against my religion to show you my hair.’ And there were a lot of guys in the class,” Fadumo says. “I was, like, ‘I can’t show you my hair,’ so she came behind my back and she pulled [my hijab] off.”

The rest of the girls give their full attention to this story, and when Fadumo stops there, Amina asks, “What did you do?”

“I didn’t do nothing because she was my friend.”

The teacher called Fadumo out of the class and said she could have the girl suspended. Fadumo said not to worry about it and accepted an apology from the friend instead.

Somewhere in the middle of our discussion, Fadumo and Habiba begin a side conversation about celebrities who are rumored to have converted to Islam. Chris Tucker’s name comes up. Former bad-boy rapper Loon is mentioned as well.

And this takes us off into a new direction. From this point on, they don’t care so much for my questions about hijab. There are more pressing matters at hand, such as why it’s supposed to be a sin to talk or text with a member of the opposite sex. None of these girls like the idea of arranged marriage, and they can’t comprehend how they’re supposed to fall in love when they can’t even get to know someone first.

They break down some of the rules they’re supposed to follow: no sex before marriage and no alcohol; no nail polish unless you have your period because you can’t pray then anyway; no perfume, at least not so much that boys will be attracted to you; no holding a grudge for more than three days.

And then there’s the issue of music. A big one, they all agree. They’re not supposed to listen to it. But they do, and it’s a major point of contention between most teenagers and their parents. Fadumo’s mother puts a guilt trip on Fadumo, asking why she doesn’t use her brainpower to memorize the Qur’an rather than to memorize the lyrics to that darn music.

“Our generation,” says Amina, “nowadays…like…our age group…people that I know and stuff, they play with the religion.”

Some girls, she says, post pictures of themselves on the internet fully covered one day, and the next day, they’re wearing “booty shorts to parties.” Other girls leave their houses fully covered and then change into, say, pants in the bathroom at school.

“I think they’re just trying to fit in,” Safiya says.

“We call them ‘undercovers’ or ‘transformers,’” says Amina.

The girls shake their heads at the thought of such antics. Amina in particular scoffs at the idea that she’d ever be a “transformer.” Her parents know she’s wearing her hair out today. It’s a special occasion, she says, and she’s going out to eat with her sisters after school. Otherwise, she’d be covered, just like every other day. Last year, she wore her hair out almost every day. This year, she’s working on “being a better Muslim.”

Special occasion or no, Amina says she believes that she’s sinning by not covering her hair. So why not cover it today?

“I don’t know,” she says, appearing to contemplate the question seriously. “I don’t know.”

A few minutes later, she admits that while she knows observing hijab is supposed to protect women from the eyes of men, it doesn’t always do the trick. “Everywhere you go, guys are still going to pay attention,” she says.

They’re teenage girls. Isn’t there some part of them that wants to be noticed?

“No.” Habiba sneers, as if the question itself is appalling.

Safiya’s face tells a similar story.

“But if it happens, that’s what’s up,” Amina says with a laugh. The others laugh too.

“We actually do [want to be noticed],” admits Fadumo. “But we can’t date.”

Eventually, Safiya brings it all back home to the reasons why they abstain from so many things. “God is very giving,” she says. “And if you do everything God tells you to do right now, you’re gonna go to Heaven. And in Heaven, you get to listen to music if you want to. You get to taste the best beer and alcohol. You know? If you follow Him, He’ll reward you with more things and better things. That’s why we have to try our best to be a better Muslim.”

I’d Like to Believe They’re Staring at My Car

According to Maureen, who has three daughters of her own, Amina’s to-hijab-or-not-to-hijab struggle is no different than that of a Catholic teenager who doesn’t want to go to church anymore. She shares this with Ifrah and me over coffee at Cutters Point, a coffeehouse near the corner of College and El Cajon Boulevard.

“Even though we raise our children Muslim, they go through a type of conversion themselves. I think everyone goes through a period where they decide how religious they’re going to be.”

Maureen recently came to this understanding when her 21-year-old daughter decided to stop wearing the hijab. The most devastating part of the experience, Maureen says, are the judgments made by the other Muslims.

“I may just have to let her live like everyone else. There may be this sense of deprivation or something she feels deprived of, and I’m hoping she’s going to find out it’s really not what this is about.”

Ifrah says one of her sisters went through a similar experience.

“The hijab she wore just kept getting shorter and shorter and smaller and smaller until she didn’t want it anymore. She bought the tightest clothing, and it was just peer pressure.”

Today, Ifrah’s sister observes hijab once again.

“I think I did a pretty good job raising my kids,” says Maureen. “I never wanted to raise them with ‘Here’s a list of things to do and don’t do.’ Some people say ‘halal, haram, halal, haram,’ which means ‘lawful, prohibited, lawful, prohibited.’ [But] there’s so much gray.”

In contrast to Maureen’s oldest daughter, her 17-year-old feels empowered in her hijab and isn’t afraid of anything. On the other hand, her 12-year-old, the youngest, has started to become annoyed with people staring at her family.

“I drive a 1971 Volkswagen Beetle, a really cute bug,” says Maureen, “so when we’re driving and people stare, I always tell my kids they’re staring at my car. My kids say, ‘Mom, they’re staring at you,’ And I say, ‘I’d like to believe they’re staring at my car.’”

A positive attitude, she says, projects confidence and keeps hostility at bay. To assist others in that positivity, she introduces herself everywhere she goes. Indeed, when I went up to the counter at Cutters Point, the barista asked me, “How do you know Maureen?”

“I never, ever get harassed,” Maureen says.

Oh, yeah, except for that one time a guy tried to run her off the road. Even then, it took her a few minutes to realize what was happening.

“Even as he was inching me off the road, I thought, ‘Oh my God, that guy is on the phone or he’s distracted.’ Then, as I moved over one lane to let him go, he turned around and flipped me off. And I was, like, ‘Oh, he was being mean.’”

Although Maureen removes her face veil at work, she does it because her hospice patients are dying and she doesn’t want to come off like “the grim reaper” in their last days — not because her employer insists. Every now and again, when a family member calls to complain about the nurse with the head scarf, her case manager at Avalon Hospice tells them Maureen is the best of the best. If they come right out and say that it’s the head scarf that makes them uncomfortable, the case manager will arrange for another nurse. This is a decision Maureen supports.

“It wouldn’t make sense to send a black CNA to a Ku Klux Klan family, would it?”

Though Ifrah doesn’t wear the niqab, eight or nine years ago she transitioned from wearing what she calls “a rainbow of hijab colors” to all-black. She, too, says she lives a life free from harassment and insults and that there’s no place in San Diego she won’t go.

I believe it when Ifrah tells me she feels comfortable wherever she goes, but I also question whether she is a reliable witness, especially after she tells me a story about driving around with a friend who kept pointing out that people were staring or shooting hostile glances their way. Ifrah says she didn’t notice anyone staring that day, or any other day, for that matter. It never occurs to her that people would stare because she’s been in San Diego, hijab and all, for 18 years, and she says, “I feel like I belong here.”

This is the first of two reasons I decide to spend a day in hijab. I’ll have to see for myself.

The second reason I want to wear hijab is that, one day, over coffee and bagels at Nate’s on Euclid Avenue, Ifrah lifted the hem of her black abaya, showing me that beneath it she wore a pair of purple pants. She also told me she shops at Victoria’s Secret and that, beneath her black, nunlike garments, she wears matching bra and panty sets.

In this case, Victoria really does have a secret. And I want one, too.

Victoria Has a Muffin Top

The experience is neither as traumatic nor as fun as I’d imagined. Instead, it turns out to be nothing more than a regular day peppered with tiny revelations and minor irritations.

On the Thursday Ifrah and I have chosen for this adventure, I wear a neither too-tight nor low-cut tank top and a lightweight, long-sleeved cardigan (in case my forearms show) and a pair of jeans rolled halfway up my calves. (A happy medium between the shorts I fear might be offensive to the shop owners who will provide my hijab and the long pants that would roast me on this 85-degree day; I own no floor-length skirts or dresses.) For fun and a bit of sass, I go with my zebra-print, peep-toe flats.

Ifrah meets me at the northeast corner of University and Winona. She guides me across the street, east a half block, and into a store called Home and Fashion for Less. My plan is to get in and out. All I need is a plain black abaya and hijab, something to cover my clothes and get on with the day. But when I see the racks of leopard-print and floral skirts, and the array of colored and printed dirac hanging along the wall, my desire to be cute overrides the simplicity of the task at hand. Ifrah encourages me to try on several items until I find something I’m comfortable with. I dig the Erykah-meets-Audrey look, but that’s the kind of thing you have to get just right. I don’t want Ifrah to sense the depth of my vanity, so I settle for an ultra-lightweight burgundy-colored bati covered in a pale-gold print. The white hijab I choose is set with small silver sequins and a copper design that resembles abstract dragonflies.

The shopkeeper hands me a mirror, and I’m baffled by the sight of my face poking out of the hijab. It looks as if it belongs to someone else. Is it really only familiar when framed by hair and a collarbone? To be all face is disconcerting. When we step outside, I’m self-conscious. But not about my body. In fact, I realize right away I can stop holding in my stomach. Aha! Victoria’s first secret: she has a muffin top.

Our plan is to run errands. I need a potty-training book for my daughter, and Ifrah is open to anything, so we head first for Borders in Mission Valley. In the car along the way, we become so involved in our mother-chat (about, yes, potty training) that I forget to look for snarky types in the cars alongside us. All I can say is that no one tries to run us off the road — that much I notice.

At the bookstore, nothing of note happens. Unless you count the woman who took time away from reading with her young daughter to help me find the potty-training shelf in the children’s section. Or the little girl who stares and stares and stares while we wait in line to make our purchases.

Actually, the not staring is more noteworthy. Every time I happen to catch someone’s eye, they quickly look away. It’s the I’m-not-staring-at-you game, and I only recognize it because, when I’m not the one wearing hijab, I do the same thing.

Minor irritations one, two, and three: the hijab’s seams meet just under my chin, and it itches like hell; the bati is too long and threatens to trip me with every step I take; and although I can feel my clothes blowing lightly, I can’t feel the breeze that moves them.

(No, I’m not hot. But this phantom breeze makes me phantom hot.)

Tiny revelation: strangely enough, I feel invisible.

Each time we get in and out of the car, I become aware of a fleeting hope that someone will catch a glimpse of my rolled-up jeans and experience a flicker of curiosity about who I am underneath all this cloth. At DSW Shoe Warehouse I try on sexy, expensive shoes and steal glances at other shoppers, wondering if any of their dinner-table conversations tonight will begin with “Honey, I saw a Muslim woman trying on a pair of stilettos today. Are they allowed to wear those?”

Another tiny revelation: I’m attached to the presentation of my corporal body.

Granted, I’m not the spring chicken I once was, but I am fighting her disappearance to the death; that I still have a waist and some perk to my behind means more to me than I might have known without this little experiment. I don’t want to keep my still-decent curves to myself, and if I weren’t sure it would look ridiculous, I’d belt this bati.

We eat lunch in La Mesa. As Ifrah entertains me with tales of her travels to Kuwait and Dubai, the waiter seats a table of four women across from us. They are all white, older, maybe in their 50s, and one of them keeps staring. I pretend not to notice, but every time I glance in her direction, she’s looking. Although she doesn’t appear hostile, I think, Ah-ha! La Mesa is enemy territory.

Turns out, Ifrah is staring back (albeit less conspicuously), trying to figure out why the woman’s face is so familiar to her. Later she’ll remember that the woman is the receptionist at Ifrah’s gynecologist’s office.

Back in Little Mogadishu, at the halal market where we stop for goat meat and the other ingredients I’ll need to make a Somali recipe Ifrah has given me, we stand in line behind a woman who makes me wish I were wearing a more fashionable hijab. Something cuter. I don’t know what it is about her that raises my competitive female hackles, but it occurs to me that Ifrah, in all black, her face free of makeup save a hint of eyeliner, has done more than just hide the shape of her body. She’s also removed herself from the female-vs.-female size-up game that most of us don’t know, or won’t admit, we’re playing.

(Later, she’ll tell me that she’s not entirely removed from the game. Among the devout, it’s a competition of who is the most intellectual, most knowledgeable. And of women who wear the niqab, Ifrah states, “They’re much better than me.”)

Our uneventful day of errands completed, Ifrah invites me into her home — a small, tidy apartment on Winona Avenue. Once inside, she takes off her hijab and heats a pot of tea. As she microwaves a plate of sambusas (meat-filled pastries) and sets out a tiered tray of sweets, I try not to stare, but I’m amazed by how different she looks.

Her bare neck makes her face look so round and young. She wears a hot-pink-and-black plaid vest over a long-sleeved black shirt, and suddenly, her body has a shape. (Maureen will later tell me that I should not reveal anything specific about Ifrah’s shape or the length of her hair, and truthfully, the specifics seem less important than that she looks suddenly so bare, though still fully dressed.) When we first met, I found Ifrah intimidating and almost unapproachable, but now, sitting with me across a plateful of Somali sweets, she is all vulnerability and softness. It’s slightly terrifying to witness this transformation.

But I keep my cool.

I indulge in the goodies she has provided and pester her for another recipe so I can make these savory sambusas at home. After a while, she glances at the clock, and I realize I’ve nearly overstayed my welcome. I thank her for everything and drive home in my hijab.

On the way, I pass my stepson and his friend playing in a neighbor’s driveway. I honk and wave hello. They don’t recognize me. At home, when I walk in the door, my husband says, “Hubba hubba!”

The goat meat turns out all right.

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Over the phone, Maureen Slater sounds like a soccer mom. She uses words like “jammies” instead of pajamas and laughs at her own jokes (“I’m smarter than my husband, ha-ha-ha”), some of which aren’t really jokes (“but seriously, he’d tell you the same thing”). She lifts weights two or three times per week on a home gym set up on the patio of her Paradise Hills home. Her hands are large and strong-looking, the nails cut to the quick, and she wears one thin band of diamonds at the first knuckle of her index finger. But few people will ever see her hands.

The most the general public will see of Maureen is the amber brown of her eyes and the smudge of liner she wears beneath her lower lashes. The rest remains covered — hands, feet, face, hair, all of her — when she shops for groceries, picks up her children from school, travels to and from work, or during any of her other daily activities outside the home.

Typically, Maureen wears a black, ankle-length, robelike covering called an abaya (in conversation, she refers to it as a “coat”), a black hijab (which covers her head and hair, her shoulders, and everything else down to her knees), and a niqab (a veil) over her face, leaving only a slit for her eyes. On her hands, she wears black gloves, and on her feet, a pair of cowboy boots or Doc Martens.

At our first meeting, however, Maureen is between hospice patients, and so she’s “dressed down” in a white knee-length tunic and matching pants, a bright-green scarf covering her head and hair, and a black veil covering her face. Her hands are bare, exposing the ring, the short nails, and her white skin. She leans forward, into my personal space, firmly grasps my hand in hers, and shakes.

Hidden though she is in what she calls her “private little room,” Maureen is candid and outspoken, the antithesis of what many assume of Muslim women, whether they choose to wear a face veil or not.

The 46-year-old mother of five converted to Islam from Catholicism 27 years ago — under her own conditions. “I was still going to wear makeup and wear bikinis and go to the beach and have a beer occasionally,” she says.

By the time she converted, she’d been married to her Egyptian Muslim husband for six months. He agreed to her conditions, saying that once she took the Shahada (the oath declaring belief in the oneness of Allah and the acceptance of Muhammad as God’s prophet), he trusted God to guide her if it was His will that she conduct herself differently.

Every step she’s since taken, graduating over the years from the masar (which covers the hair but leaves the neck exposed) to the hijab, and, finally, to the niqab (each step covering more of herself in public), has been her own choice. Although she’d once sworn she would “never, ever” wear the niqab, Maureen says the first time she wore one out in public “was like being on the computer and doing some work at home while you’re in your jammies.”

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“Say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear thereof.” (Qur’an 24.31)

Some Islamic scholars teach that the face veil is mandatory, while others believe that a woman covering even her hair is a personal choice, but all agree that modesty is an important part of the Islamic faith.

On the website IslamForToday.com, Syed Rahman published an article titled “Seven Conditions for Women’s Dress in Islam.” Women’s clothing, he writes, must cover everything but the hands and the face; the material must not be transparent; it must hang loose to hide the shape of the wearer; the design must not resemble men’s clothing or that of nonbelieving women; it must not consist of bold designs; and it should not be worn for the sole purpose of increasing one’s status or reputation.

My friend Ifrah explains Rahman’s “Seven Conditions” in her own words.

“You should wear something that’s not form-fitting and something that covers you up, so that when somebody looks at you, they can’t talk about your body shape or your beauty or what you lack or don’t lack.” The purpose, she says, “is for a woman to be judged on her abilities, her knowledge, her education, and her mind, not for how sexy she looks.”

To dress as such is to observe hijab. Not every Muslim woman interprets this modesty in the same way. In City Heights (home to many Muslims), some women wear black, brown, or dark-green solids, their long, shapeless head-to-toe coverings reminiscent of a nun’s habit. Others wear bright colors and patterns, kitten heels visible beneath their long skirts, topped off with gauzy scarves and giant, trendy sunglasses, all of it giving them a look somewhere between Erykah Badu and Audrey Hepburn.

For those born into Islam, most begin with a small, child-sized hijab between the ages of five and nine.

Dumb Questions, Mean Friends, and Transformers

A Tuesday morning in June, less than a week left to go in the school year. A fourth-grade classroom at Oak Park Elementary buzzes with a restlessness not typical of independent reading time. Whispers rise to a hum, and the teacher calls out from the back of the classroom, “I like the way Amal is reading quietly.”

Amal, a creamy brown-skinned girl in a black-and-gray hijab set with silver sequins, smiles behind her book. The rest of the class quiets down. When the teacher turns her attention to the reading group she is facilitating at the back of the class, Amal and the girl whose desk faces hers begin to kick each other under the table and giggle quietly behind the books still propped up in front of them.

Ten minutes later, the children line up for recess. Outside, some run to jump rope or to join four-square games already in progress. Amal and several other girls crowd around the backpacks, where one classmate is passing out Flamin’ Hot Cheetos.

A handful of other girls in hijab and jeans or hijab and long skirts dot the playground, some laughing out loud, some whispering quietly among friends. They are free. It’s recess time.

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The five teenage girls gathered around the oval table in a conference room at Hoover High represent a range of Muslimah (female Muslim) styles. Habiba (the only one of the five who chooses not to reveal her real name) wears a lavender masar, a black long-sleeved shirt, and a full lavender skirt. She says there’s no real reason her scarf isn’t tucked under her chin like Safiya’s across the table, except that, without a pin to hold in place, it’s annoying to keep tucking and retucking it all day long.

The sleeves of Safiyah’s brown (and slightly snug) button-up top reach only to her elbows. By most standards, she’s covered and clearly modest, but when I ask if her bare forearms are considered risqué, she grins with embarrassment and pulls at the sleeves, as if to will them longer. Only Hanifo, the quiet freshman in the dusky-blue waist-length hijab and the pale-blue skirt, would likely meet with the full approval of her mother.

“We have to cover our neck, our arms, everything from head to toe,” says Amina. “No skin.”

Amina is the one girl in the room whose head is not covered. She’s the dramatic type, dominating most of the conversation with stories about her sisters and various cousins and occasional attempts to one-up Safiya’s clear intellectualism with confusing explanations of the hows and whys of Islam for girls. Though she claims to love answering the questions of strangers about why Muslim women wear hijab, she struggles with that answer here and now.

“I don’t know how to explain it,” she says after a fumbled attempt at clarity. “It’s because of my religion.” This confusion might explain why so much of what she says she’s “supposed” to do is exactly the opposite of what she’s doing now.

“I’m not supposed to dress like this,” she says, indicating the plaid shirt with the top button secured just above her cleavage and the almost form-fitting, long, satiny skirt. “I’m supposed to wear clothes that don’t show my body shape. Because of the guys. So I don’t get the guys’ attention. That’s what we believe.”

Later, she remembers a play she saw at San Diego State University where a woman made the point that covering one’s head is not mandatory for Muslim women.

“She said it’s a choice,” Amina says incredulously. “But I believe it’s a ‘have-to’ even though I’m not wearing it.”

Safiya agrees. “It is a ‘have-to.’”

“Yeah,” says Habiba at the same time that Fadumo says, “It is.”

Although these girls believe that covering their hair is mandatory, each of the five remembers making the decision to wear the hijab on their own. Habiba wanted to wear one because her friends at Birney Elementary did. Fadumo said she was envious that her big sister wore one, so she asked her mother to buy her one too.

Safiya says she was proud to wear hers “because it’s part of who I am.” The only problem she had with other children at school was once when two girls ganged up on her, and one told the other to pull off Safiyah’s hijab. Neither girl dared to.

Amina pipes in, “When I was seven years old, people used to say, ‘Why do you have that?’ They used to question me. They’d say, ‘Take that towel off your head’ and stuff like that.”

The girls agree that despite a minor incident or insult here and there, kids in elementary school were mostly curious. In middle school, however, they became cruel.

“Middle-schoolers are the worst,” says Safiya.

“Ignorant,” says Habiba.

“Middle school was definitely the hardest,” confirms Fadumo.

The worst of it, they say, was the daily questions they had to answer, such as “Do you wear that in the shower?” and “Is that a tablecloth on your head?” Insults disguised as ignorance.

And then there was “Aren’t you hot?” mocks Safiya.

Every one of them groans. Two roll their eyes.

“It’s super thin,” says Habiba, clearly over the whole thing. Duh.

I don’t tell them that nearly every non-Muslim I’ve spoken to about hijab has wondered the same thing.

High-schoolers “don’t ask dumb questions,” says Amina. “They’re way more mature.”

Not always, though. During freshman year, a friend pulled off Fadumo’s hijab in the middle of class, in front of a bunch of boys.

“They were, like, ‘Can I see your hair?’ and I was, like, ‘No, you can’t see it. It’s against my religion to show you my hair.’ And there were a lot of guys in the class,” Fadumo says. “I was, like, ‘I can’t show you my hair,’ so she came behind my back and she pulled [my hijab] off.”

The rest of the girls give their full attention to this story, and when Fadumo stops there, Amina asks, “What did you do?”

“I didn’t do nothing because she was my friend.”

The teacher called Fadumo out of the class and said she could have the girl suspended. Fadumo said not to worry about it and accepted an apology from the friend instead.

Somewhere in the middle of our discussion, Fadumo and Habiba begin a side conversation about celebrities who are rumored to have converted to Islam. Chris Tucker’s name comes up. Former bad-boy rapper Loon is mentioned as well.

And this takes us off into a new direction. From this point on, they don’t care so much for my questions about hijab. There are more pressing matters at hand, such as why it’s supposed to be a sin to talk or text with a member of the opposite sex. None of these girls like the idea of arranged marriage, and they can’t comprehend how they’re supposed to fall in love when they can’t even get to know someone first.

They break down some of the rules they’re supposed to follow: no sex before marriage and no alcohol; no nail polish unless you have your period because you can’t pray then anyway; no perfume, at least not so much that boys will be attracted to you; no holding a grudge for more than three days.

And then there’s the issue of music. A big one, they all agree. They’re not supposed to listen to it. But they do, and it’s a major point of contention between most teenagers and their parents. Fadumo’s mother puts a guilt trip on Fadumo, asking why she doesn’t use her brainpower to memorize the Qur’an rather than to memorize the lyrics to that darn music.

“Our generation,” says Amina, “nowadays…like…our age group…people that I know and stuff, they play with the religion.”

Some girls, she says, post pictures of themselves on the internet fully covered one day, and the next day, they’re wearing “booty shorts to parties.” Other girls leave their houses fully covered and then change into, say, pants in the bathroom at school.

“I think they’re just trying to fit in,” Safiya says.

“We call them ‘undercovers’ or ‘transformers,’” says Amina.

The girls shake their heads at the thought of such antics. Amina in particular scoffs at the idea that she’d ever be a “transformer.” Her parents know she’s wearing her hair out today. It’s a special occasion, she says, and she’s going out to eat with her sisters after school. Otherwise, she’d be covered, just like every other day. Last year, she wore her hair out almost every day. This year, she’s working on “being a better Muslim.”

Special occasion or no, Amina says she believes that she’s sinning by not covering her hair. So why not cover it today?

“I don’t know,” she says, appearing to contemplate the question seriously. “I don’t know.”

A few minutes later, she admits that while she knows observing hijab is supposed to protect women from the eyes of men, it doesn’t always do the trick. “Everywhere you go, guys are still going to pay attention,” she says.

They’re teenage girls. Isn’t there some part of them that wants to be noticed?

“No.” Habiba sneers, as if the question itself is appalling.

Safiya’s face tells a similar story.

“But if it happens, that’s what’s up,” Amina says with a laugh. The others laugh too.

“We actually do [want to be noticed],” admits Fadumo. “But we can’t date.”

Eventually, Safiya brings it all back home to the reasons why they abstain from so many things. “God is very giving,” she says. “And if you do everything God tells you to do right now, you’re gonna go to Heaven. And in Heaven, you get to listen to music if you want to. You get to taste the best beer and alcohol. You know? If you follow Him, He’ll reward you with more things and better things. That’s why we have to try our best to be a better Muslim.”

I’d Like to Believe They’re Staring at My Car

According to Maureen, who has three daughters of her own, Amina’s to-hijab-or-not-to-hijab struggle is no different than that of a Catholic teenager who doesn’t want to go to church anymore. She shares this with Ifrah and me over coffee at Cutters Point, a coffeehouse near the corner of College and El Cajon Boulevard.

“Even though we raise our children Muslim, they go through a type of conversion themselves. I think everyone goes through a period where they decide how religious they’re going to be.”

Maureen recently came to this understanding when her 21-year-old daughter decided to stop wearing the hijab. The most devastating part of the experience, Maureen says, are the judgments made by the other Muslims.

“I may just have to let her live like everyone else. There may be this sense of deprivation or something she feels deprived of, and I’m hoping she’s going to find out it’s really not what this is about.”

Ifrah says one of her sisters went through a similar experience.

“The hijab she wore just kept getting shorter and shorter and smaller and smaller until she didn’t want it anymore. She bought the tightest clothing, and it was just peer pressure.”

Today, Ifrah’s sister observes hijab once again.

“I think I did a pretty good job raising my kids,” says Maureen. “I never wanted to raise them with ‘Here’s a list of things to do and don’t do.’ Some people say ‘halal, haram, halal, haram,’ which means ‘lawful, prohibited, lawful, prohibited.’ [But] there’s so much gray.”

In contrast to Maureen’s oldest daughter, her 17-year-old feels empowered in her hijab and isn’t afraid of anything. On the other hand, her 12-year-old, the youngest, has started to become annoyed with people staring at her family.

“I drive a 1971 Volkswagen Beetle, a really cute bug,” says Maureen, “so when we’re driving and people stare, I always tell my kids they’re staring at my car. My kids say, ‘Mom, they’re staring at you,’ And I say, ‘I’d like to believe they’re staring at my car.’”

A positive attitude, she says, projects confidence and keeps hostility at bay. To assist others in that positivity, she introduces herself everywhere she goes. Indeed, when I went up to the counter at Cutters Point, the barista asked me, “How do you know Maureen?”

“I never, ever get harassed,” Maureen says.

Oh, yeah, except for that one time a guy tried to run her off the road. Even then, it took her a few minutes to realize what was happening.

“Even as he was inching me off the road, I thought, ‘Oh my God, that guy is on the phone or he’s distracted.’ Then, as I moved over one lane to let him go, he turned around and flipped me off. And I was, like, ‘Oh, he was being mean.’”

Although Maureen removes her face veil at work, she does it because her hospice patients are dying and she doesn’t want to come off like “the grim reaper” in their last days — not because her employer insists. Every now and again, when a family member calls to complain about the nurse with the head scarf, her case manager at Avalon Hospice tells them Maureen is the best of the best. If they come right out and say that it’s the head scarf that makes them uncomfortable, the case manager will arrange for another nurse. This is a decision Maureen supports.

“It wouldn’t make sense to send a black CNA to a Ku Klux Klan family, would it?”

Though Ifrah doesn’t wear the niqab, eight or nine years ago she transitioned from wearing what she calls “a rainbow of hijab colors” to all-black. She, too, says she lives a life free from harassment and insults and that there’s no place in San Diego she won’t go.

I believe it when Ifrah tells me she feels comfortable wherever she goes, but I also question whether she is a reliable witness, especially after she tells me a story about driving around with a friend who kept pointing out that people were staring or shooting hostile glances their way. Ifrah says she didn’t notice anyone staring that day, or any other day, for that matter. It never occurs to her that people would stare because she’s been in San Diego, hijab and all, for 18 years, and she says, “I feel like I belong here.”

This is the first of two reasons I decide to spend a day in hijab. I’ll have to see for myself.

The second reason I want to wear hijab is that, one day, over coffee and bagels at Nate’s on Euclid Avenue, Ifrah lifted the hem of her black abaya, showing me that beneath it she wore a pair of purple pants. She also told me she shops at Victoria’s Secret and that, beneath her black, nunlike garments, she wears matching bra and panty sets.

In this case, Victoria really does have a secret. And I want one, too.

Victoria Has a Muffin Top

The experience is neither as traumatic nor as fun as I’d imagined. Instead, it turns out to be nothing more than a regular day peppered with tiny revelations and minor irritations.

On the Thursday Ifrah and I have chosen for this adventure, I wear a neither too-tight nor low-cut tank top and a lightweight, long-sleeved cardigan (in case my forearms show) and a pair of jeans rolled halfway up my calves. (A happy medium between the shorts I fear might be offensive to the shop owners who will provide my hijab and the long pants that would roast me on this 85-degree day; I own no floor-length skirts or dresses.) For fun and a bit of sass, I go with my zebra-print, peep-toe flats.

Ifrah meets me at the northeast corner of University and Winona. She guides me across the street, east a half block, and into a store called Home and Fashion for Less. My plan is to get in and out. All I need is a plain black abaya and hijab, something to cover my clothes and get on with the day. But when I see the racks of leopard-print and floral skirts, and the array of colored and printed dirac hanging along the wall, my desire to be cute overrides the simplicity of the task at hand. Ifrah encourages me to try on several items until I find something I’m comfortable with. I dig the Erykah-meets-Audrey look, but that’s the kind of thing you have to get just right. I don’t want Ifrah to sense the depth of my vanity, so I settle for an ultra-lightweight burgundy-colored bati covered in a pale-gold print. The white hijab I choose is set with small silver sequins and a copper design that resembles abstract dragonflies.

The shopkeeper hands me a mirror, and I’m baffled by the sight of my face poking out of the hijab. It looks as if it belongs to someone else. Is it really only familiar when framed by hair and a collarbone? To be all face is disconcerting. When we step outside, I’m self-conscious. But not about my body. In fact, I realize right away I can stop holding in my stomach. Aha! Victoria’s first secret: she has a muffin top.

Our plan is to run errands. I need a potty-training book for my daughter, and Ifrah is open to anything, so we head first for Borders in Mission Valley. In the car along the way, we become so involved in our mother-chat (about, yes, potty training) that I forget to look for snarky types in the cars alongside us. All I can say is that no one tries to run us off the road — that much I notice.

At the bookstore, nothing of note happens. Unless you count the woman who took time away from reading with her young daughter to help me find the potty-training shelf in the children’s section. Or the little girl who stares and stares and stares while we wait in line to make our purchases.

Actually, the not staring is more noteworthy. Every time I happen to catch someone’s eye, they quickly look away. It’s the I’m-not-staring-at-you game, and I only recognize it because, when I’m not the one wearing hijab, I do the same thing.

Minor irritations one, two, and three: the hijab’s seams meet just under my chin, and it itches like hell; the bati is too long and threatens to trip me with every step I take; and although I can feel my clothes blowing lightly, I can’t feel the breeze that moves them.

(No, I’m not hot. But this phantom breeze makes me phantom hot.)

Tiny revelation: strangely enough, I feel invisible.

Each time we get in and out of the car, I become aware of a fleeting hope that someone will catch a glimpse of my rolled-up jeans and experience a flicker of curiosity about who I am underneath all this cloth. At DSW Shoe Warehouse I try on sexy, expensive shoes and steal glances at other shoppers, wondering if any of their dinner-table conversations tonight will begin with “Honey, I saw a Muslim woman trying on a pair of stilettos today. Are they allowed to wear those?”

Another tiny revelation: I’m attached to the presentation of my corporal body.

Granted, I’m not the spring chicken I once was, but I am fighting her disappearance to the death; that I still have a waist and some perk to my behind means more to me than I might have known without this little experiment. I don’t want to keep my still-decent curves to myself, and if I weren’t sure it would look ridiculous, I’d belt this bati.

We eat lunch in La Mesa. As Ifrah entertains me with tales of her travels to Kuwait and Dubai, the waiter seats a table of four women across from us. They are all white, older, maybe in their 50s, and one of them keeps staring. I pretend not to notice, but every time I glance in her direction, she’s looking. Although she doesn’t appear hostile, I think, Ah-ha! La Mesa is enemy territory.

Turns out, Ifrah is staring back (albeit less conspicuously), trying to figure out why the woman’s face is so familiar to her. Later she’ll remember that the woman is the receptionist at Ifrah’s gynecologist’s office.

Back in Little Mogadishu, at the halal market where we stop for goat meat and the other ingredients I’ll need to make a Somali recipe Ifrah has given me, we stand in line behind a woman who makes me wish I were wearing a more fashionable hijab. Something cuter. I don’t know what it is about her that raises my competitive female hackles, but it occurs to me that Ifrah, in all black, her face free of makeup save a hint of eyeliner, has done more than just hide the shape of her body. She’s also removed herself from the female-vs.-female size-up game that most of us don’t know, or won’t admit, we’re playing.

(Later, she’ll tell me that she’s not entirely removed from the game. Among the devout, it’s a competition of who is the most intellectual, most knowledgeable. And of women who wear the niqab, Ifrah states, “They’re much better than me.”)

Our uneventful day of errands completed, Ifrah invites me into her home — a small, tidy apartment on Winona Avenue. Once inside, she takes off her hijab and heats a pot of tea. As she microwaves a plate of sambusas (meat-filled pastries) and sets out a tiered tray of sweets, I try not to stare, but I’m amazed by how different she looks.

Her bare neck makes her face look so round and young. She wears a hot-pink-and-black plaid vest over a long-sleeved black shirt, and suddenly, her body has a shape. (Maureen will later tell me that I should not reveal anything specific about Ifrah’s shape or the length of her hair, and truthfully, the specifics seem less important than that she looks suddenly so bare, though still fully dressed.) When we first met, I found Ifrah intimidating and almost unapproachable, but now, sitting with me across a plateful of Somali sweets, she is all vulnerability and softness. It’s slightly terrifying to witness this transformation.

But I keep my cool.

I indulge in the goodies she has provided and pester her for another recipe so I can make these savory sambusas at home. After a while, she glances at the clock, and I realize I’ve nearly overstayed my welcome. I thank her for everything and drive home in my hijab.

On the way, I pass my stepson and his friend playing in a neighbor’s driveway. I honk and wave hello. They don’t recognize me. At home, when I walk in the door, my husband says, “Hubba hubba!”

The goat meat turns out all right.

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You reduce this to female competition. Shame on you. And I do realize that this was the point of your story. To show that women dress for women. To use the hijab as you weapon of choice is conceited and shallow and EASY. You want to get stared at? Try something less exposing. Hubba hubba my ass.

Sept. 8, 2010

It's silly. Muslim women that conform to the hijab will ensure that they only marry men who seek visual beauty over internal beauty. Those bastards only want to get inside of your veil ;)

Sept. 8, 2010

Exactly. The cheapest form of erotica is the disguising of it as a form of it.

Sept. 8, 2010

Looks like tiger woods in the picture!

Sept. 9, 2010

Having spent some time in the MiddleEast, I asked a number of Arab women if they resented wearing the Hijab. Their reply? A hardy laugh followed by this answer "Why should we resent it? Look at our sun. Because of the hijab, our skin is flawless, beautiful. Why should we want to have wrinkly skin like you American women?" They also pointed out that their "husbands can take a second, third or fourth wife, so it is important to stay lovely for as long as possible."

Sept. 10, 2010

to each his/her own....

Sept. 10, 2010

They also pointed out that their "husbands can take a second, third or fourth wife, so it is important to stay lovely for as long as possible

Now that is a plan I could get behind!

Sept. 10, 2010

addendum to #6

i don't consider it foreign dress but cultural and religious dress so i would have no right to judge it in any way...it does make the curious take notice... as far as i'm concerned it's singularly unattractive and i would think uncomfortable as well

so many of the rituals of dress and behavior of middle eastern women seem suppressive to me...meant not always to protect but to envelope their bodies as well as their minds in a kind of hidden state that makes them unapproachable and therefore always separate and unable to assimilate into a new culture

perhaps that's what is meant to occur...that separateness even tho these women live here in America...it saddened me somehow

Sept. 10, 2010

I'll side with MSG on this issue!

If I was a female (I'm not), then I'd be worried that sooner, rather than later, more women World-Wide will be "urged" to conform as more and more men decide that women should again, be hidden away, especially as the job market gets much tighter...

Any woman that does not want to show any part of their body is OK by me but to be required or allowed to "hide" from the outside "public" World (by being completely covered) is a security issue that should not be allowed... Do what you wish in your own home, but in public be visible like everyone else. + I would not want veiled people driving and think that anyone driving should be required to not wear any "headgear" that limits their peripheral vision...

Sept. 10, 2010

Reply #6 "to each his/her own...."

At least right now here; but I would not advise traveling to many Countries that just a few years ago, women could do so freely.

As Bob Dylan sang, "The Times They Are a-Changin' "...

Sept. 10, 2010

Reply #7 "Now that is a plan I could get behind!" SP, You old Dawg...

Sept. 10, 2010

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yah founder that off and on a plane would be a mess... definite search in order when the person is clothed in what some would view as a tent

Sept. 11, 2010

Reply #12 Expect to see lots at Halloween...

Sept. 11, 2010

Let me point out that here in the West, we are also required to "cover up". It too is rooted in religious beliefs. Why else did our Americans missionaries insist that the Hawaiians cover their bodies? And, if today the citizens of those beautiful islands chose to return to walking around bare breasted and surfing nude, would we allow it?I think not. As for equal rights...please, how many women here, receive the same amount of money for the same amount of work. Be it Muslim or Christian, we women are still struggling for equal rights. Note to Elizabeth Salaam. Thanks for a wonderful story, it was so insightful.

Sept. 11, 2010

muppycat...don't get ur panties in a twist gurl...here at the READER we have equal rights to all to give our opinions of the writing and the content of the piece

it is an educating blog...no judgments can be given...equal pay and bikinis have nothing to do with it

Sept. 11, 2010

"Equal pay and bikinis have nothing to do with it" sounds like a judgment to me. One I respectfully disagree with. But my point was that different cultures come from different histories, and mostly, Middle Eastern, Asian and African countries have been on the receiving end of our wealth-backed values, whether it's short skirts or the consumer society's excesses. Maybe it's time we looked to them with respect to see what we can learn, rather than assuming we have all the answers. I learned a lot from Ms. Salaam's excellent story.

Sept. 12, 2010

"Maybe it's time we looked to them with respect to see what we can learn, rather than assuming we have all the answers."

France has banned the wearing of the hijab in their country. What the French have said is that this is not out of disrespect toward Middle-Eastern countries, but more out of respect for France and French culture. Should French culture offend the just-under 10% Muslim population in France, the French recommend that the Muslim population repatriate at their convenience.

I do not find this as a judgement, I find it as a reality that many Americans are afraid to broach.

Sept. 12, 2010

"..receiving end of our wealth-backed values..."

Actually, I have noticed that none of those places have offered to return the billions of dollars in aid from the U.S. You could leave off "-based values" and be equally as accurate.

Sept. 12, 2010

I believe that the USA will follow the French rather than cave in like the British!

Can you imagine some group starting a religion where folks "must" wear giant "hoop" skirts or "bio-garb" type outfits because it "insulates" them and then they demand that everyone redesign everything to accept them in their own expanded personal space?

Public Safety for all, trumps individual freedom in public!

I think it is ironic that the religious garb from the Middle East has also been used to "hide" by the very folks that terrorize the public.

Do what you wish in your own home, but don't expect the Public to adopt or approve of your dress code in Public; especially if it allows you to hide your identity!

Sept. 12, 2010

This story, sadly, never seemed to get below the surface. I am amazed the writer did not ask the most simple, obvious question to the women she spent time with: "How do you feel about following ancient religious rules that were written entirely by men, for the benifit of men, and to ensure that women are treated as less than human?" Also, full covering one's face, or even partially, robs you of your most human trait, expressiveness. Why women willingly keep themselves in servitude like this is fairly clear: fear.

Sept. 12, 2010

I just thought it was in kind of poor taste to fetishize something that most American women find more than a little frightening, if they really thought about it.

Surfpup, four wives would kill you.

Sept. 12, 2010

"How do you feel about following ancient religious rules that were written entirely by men, for the benifit of men, and to ensure that women are treated as less than human?"

Actually, the hijab and veil and so on were tribal traditions. The Quran only recommends modesty, that women keep their bodies covered in public so as not to be harassed. It uses a word that translates to "veil" for covering the breats, and a word that translates to "cloak" in another passage. No where in the Quran does it order that women keep their faces covered in public.

Taken in the context it was written in the Quran, it appears as a message that women should avoid being harassed or ridiculed in public by the way they dress. There is a similar passage concerning men. Then, in many countries, wearing the hijab would certainly accomplish that mission because so many women dress in that manner. However, in the United States, the wearing of a hijab would have the exact opposite intent of any religious pretext it is meant to enforce.

Sept. 12, 2010

"If I was a female (I'm not), then I'd be worried that sooner, rather than later, more women World-Wide will be "urged" to conform as more and more men decide that women should again, be hidden away, especially as the job market gets much tighter..."

Founder, it ain't gonna happen. There is no way that women in the world-wide work-force are just going to throw up their hands and say "gee, the men are deciding for us that we should all be unemployed and wearing burqas, so I guess I'm in". What are they going to do? Declare war on women? Wishful thinking on some parts, but women are only gaining power, not losing it. It's a constant struggle, but one that will eventually be won. I am not the least bit worried.

Sept. 12, 2010

Refried, its original intent may have been somewhat benign, but as women began to get educations, own property, etc., it was perverted to satisfy threatened males and continues to be so to this day. If I lived in a society that had the authority to throw acid in my face if I left the house in a state not appropriate according to my male relatives, I would arm myself.

Sept. 12, 2010

I can't believe my "breasts" typo. You're sort of making my point, Ms. Grant. In other words, it seems to have become a perversion, especially in the West. One comment hinted that it was a religious thing, and even the story comments thusly:

"Say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear thereof." (Qur’an 24.31)

Now let's make it more contextual, and examine the verse before it:

"Say to the believing man that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that will make for greater purity for them; and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do." (Qur’an 24.30)

And while we're at it, let's not leave out the tail-end of verse 24.31 which does not end with "thereof":

"; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands..."

Basically, it is instructing men not to be perverts and women not to provoke such behavior and to save their "beauty" (which is ambiguous in context) for their husbands.

In another verse, this is mentioned:

"Those who harass believing men and believing women undeservedly, bear (on themselves) a calumny and a grievous sin. O Prophet! Enjoin your wives, your daughters, and the wives of true believers that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad). That is most convenient, that they be distinguished and not be harassed..." (Qur’an 33.58-59)

Basically, it is instructing Muslims to wear clothing that will not subject themselves to harassment by non-believers. There's one more passage that reads similar to the first that uses the word "cape" but I can't find it at the moment. Anyway, that's the idea.

Sept. 12, 2010

Here's a bit of info inspired by Mrs. Salaam's story and refriedgringo's interesting additions.

The tradition of veiling and seclusion (known together as hijab) was introduced into Arabia long before Muhammad, primarily through Arab contacts with Syria and Iran ,where the hijab was a sign of social status. Only a woman who need not work in the fields could afford to remain secluded and veiled.

There was no tradition of veiling until around 627 C.E., when the so-called “verse of hijab” suddenly descended upon the community. That verse, however, was addressed not to women in general, but exclusively to Muhammad’s many wives: “Believers, do not enter the Prophet’s house…unless asked. And if you are invited…do not linger. And when you ask something from the Prophet’s wives, do so from behind a hijab. This will assure the purity of your hearts as well as theirs” When Muhammad become the supreme leader of an increasingly expanding community, some kind of segregation had to be enforced to maintain the inviolability of his wives. For this reason, during the Prophet’s lifetime, no other women observed hijab.

No one knows for sure when the veil was adopted after the Prophet's death, but most Muslim women began wearing it as a way to emulate the Prophet’s wives, who were revered as “the Mothers of the Ummah.” And the veil was not compulsory until a large body of male scriptural and legal scholars began using their religious and political authority to regain the dominance they had lost in society as a result of the Prophet’s egalitarian reforms.

Sept. 13, 2010

Muppy (and really, anyone), another interesting read concerning the hijab and Muslim tradition in general and what is perceived as Western culture's attempt to ban it, can be uncovered in the Turkish revolution. It was one of the steps that Mustafa Atatürk took in order to attempt to seperate a system of Islamic judiciary rule in order to promote a secular Turkey. Obviously, he encountered much difficulty with this attempt, as Muslim chieftains enjoyed great autonomy and influence and wealth and, well, many wives under the Caliphate.

Atatürk eventually managed to abolish the Caliphate in Turkey but the sons and grandsons of the chieftains and their tribal influences in Turkey remain to this day.

Sept. 13, 2010

Thanks, refried and muppy. It really is an interesting subject. I can understand how it became symbolic of status, and even as a fashion statement (most Muslim women began wearing it as a way to emulate the Prophet’s wives), and also as a protective device to ward against the unwanted attention of non-believers. I am still left questioning its value in today's world. I'll go back and re-read the article with a more open mind.

Sept. 13, 2010

16...Muppycat u brought up equal pay and bikinis...not me...i said no religious or cultural judgements

ur intentions here seem to be to do battle with the opinions of others who don't agree with yours...which is a shame because u r derailing the comments into the "tit for tat" area out of the shades of grey into black or white only

Sept. 13, 2010

"I am still left questioning its value in today's world."

I think it has negative value in parts of the world where the vast majority do not wear such clothing. And I certainly don't think it's unfair to consider that in parts of the world where the vast majority wear such clothing that this is mandated by forces wishing to control society.

Sept. 13, 2010

Nan, I thought we were having a discussion. Isn't that what sharing opinions is all about? Thesis, antithesis, synthesis. Mrs. Salaam wrote a fascinating story, stimulating discussion and comments from the READER's readers. Let's just enjoy the to and fro.

Sept. 13, 2010

everyone that is an American citizen should go out and learn the history and the current social issues in these middle eastern Countries. These women go though old 12th century torture. Truely sad.

I dont mind some of these head dresses but i do have a problem when some women say that they will not take if off for drivers license pics and etc. To me it is a matter of safety.
If a women walks in a store and is wearing something that covers her face isnt it just like a bank robber that would wear a mask.? So i see it as a security issue.

Sept. 14, 2010

except for this statement by u Muppy..."Equal pay and bikinis have nothing to do with it SOUNDS LIKE A JUDGMENT TO ME"....i agree with #32

let's exchange cultural and intellectual input

actually i see issues only with the HIJIB...i see no difficulties with the head covering and veil...as the veil can be easily lowered for important reasons

i have Muslim friends and have spent vacations with them in Turkey in the past...love it and got on well there...so i have more then just an ordinary Western attitude toward Muslim female dress

Sept. 14, 2010

24

i'll ride shotgun for ya Grantie!!!

Sept. 14, 2010

Reply RE: 34 & 24

Right On, I suggest all women be VERY careful going to the Middle East, especially if they are traveling alone!

BTW: There are many stories of American (and women from other Countries) that have "visited" the Middle Eastern home land of their new husbands and never were allowed to leave...

Religious Freedom is one thing, Religious Doctrine is quite another!

Sept. 14, 2010

Founder is spot on re travel and religious doctrine. However, if a woman must travel alone into a conservative Arab country, then wear a pashima or wide & long silk scarf. It's the only answer, as for clothes like bathing suits (Nan, no where in my texts did I write "bikinis")two piece ones should be left at home. Adding on to Founder's info, watch the film CAIRO TIME starring Patricia Clarkson. Gives you a clear idea what a woman might expect if visiting a more liberal country like Egypt or Qatar.

Sept. 14, 2010

Female repression in the name of Mohammad. Wonderful. Going to the beach must be fun while their male companions run around in marble bag swimsuits and strut their stuff. You can tell how bad certain religions are by how badly they repress their females. Islam definitely pegs the "Suck-o-meter".

I guess bikinis with drawings of Mohammad would be a definite fashion no-no, and would probably result in beheading.....

Sept. 15, 2010

Adding on to Founder's info, watch the film CAIRO TIME starring Patricia Clarkson

I would watch ANYTHING with Patricia Clarkson!

Sept. 15, 2010

So that our terms are straight, clothing-wise:

Hijab - A term generally used to describe a Muslim's modest attire. Hijab is specifically used to describe the portion of dress for women that covers the head, and the face if applicable.

Chador - A cloak for women worn from head to toe that is open in front. Popular in Iran.

Abaya - Like a chador, only closed in front and is often worn with a type of face veil.

Niqab - A face veil for women with a slit to expose only the eyes. The slit may optionally be closed.

Burqa - A face veil like the niqab but does not expose any part of the face. Mesh is in the eye area to permit vision.

Thobe - A robe, usually white, for men. Appears taylored from the neck down the sleeves and is loose to the ankles.

Ghutra - A head scarf for men, it is usually white and sometimes black & white or red & white checkered, generally tied on with a black rope band.

Bisht - A dress robe for men which is worn over the thobe, which is used by dignitaries.

Sept. 15, 2010

He was wearing a bright white Thobe under his Bisht, with a red & white checkered Ghutra as he discussed what he considered appropriate dress for one his wive's, when she was allowed outside the home. For some reason, he was not happy with her Chador/Hijab combination or perhaps it was because she was wearing the Burqa instead of the Abaya; but who knows what she really thought, because sadly, her response was hidden from all.

Sept. 16, 2010

Whether it be hijabs,

or hoodies, PLEASE don't hide your

feminine goodies!!!

Sept. 16, 2010

Reply #41 Amen!

Sept. 17, 2010

Tiger Woods....now that's funny!

Sept. 17, 2010

i will check out CAIRO TIME muppy

Sept. 19, 2010

I think that anybody who even thinks that there is a beautiful face hiding behind that veil would probably also fall for the Nigerian 419 Scan. That is why the martyrs get 72 virgins. Out of 72, you might find one you can look at without the veil. Maybe not.

Sept. 21, 2010

this is so strange...i was at hospital yesterday in the Emergency Room and saw two woman with veils...someone asked me what i thought of it and i just answered that in this country covered faces have nearly always signified some kind of criminal activity would be soon occurring

"like the hold up guys covering their faces with kerchiefs"

i guess our culture has been indoctrinated for years with that picture of "badness is about to happen"...it's an instant knee jerk reaction

it has nothing to do with religious or cultural discrimination

and it's difficult to overcome

Sept. 21, 2010

As a muslim-American, I find this string rather interesting.. I did not know much about Islam as I grew up in a Methodist (and Lutheran) household and chose Taoism and went to a Quaker school, so I used to know nothing of the women "behind the veil". Now, I choose to cover my hair - but not my face - and little old ladies are scared of me at the bus stop!

Egad. Did I really change so much? Is my surfer-girl accent or outgoing personality not coming accross in my bright blue 'cover' or jean skirt? Well I am sorry if this country based on freedom (of religion - hello!) says that I should not dress how I want - if there is a safety concern, then I go through the same process as everyone else. You can pat me down (carefully) or walk me through a metal-detector - if you are scared of me still, then someone is winning; not you, not me.

Virtue is bold, and goodness never fearful. - William Shakespeare, 1564 - 1616

Oct. 5, 2010

I could care less about everything except the niqab. That is a security issue and wearing it should not be legal in this country.

Nov. 4, 2010

try walking around in Egypt, turkey, morocco , the Arab Muslim part of the globe. it's bloody hot, sunburnt heads, men and women in long robes with head scarves or pieces, Easter day in alexandria families at the beach, strolling along the boardwalk, young people in traditional dress holding hands sitting on the sea wall. my friends dress for the occasion- also wear traditional dress, I actually see it as charming sorry. passing judgement on other cultures using western values is like someone hiring me to build their house, I don't believe for a second I have the right to tell anyone, anywhere how to believe, how to dress, how to think. I always try very hard not to shoot my mouth off about things that I really have no knowledge of, particularly sine I'm a traveler and the reason I love travel embraces and is fascinated by the unique features of different cultures. it's bad enough seeing McDonald's in every country - I say if you haven't lived it, seen it, touched it, then get on with your life.

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