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“We kicked 2 Live Crew off the tour today,” said local musician-turned-promoter Willie Carter (aka Willie Psycho) on May 20. Just days before, he’d sent out a press release touting the Crew’s “comeback.”

According to Carter’s manager Michelle Quintanar, “It got to be really irritating.… Every day, [2 Live Crew’s manager] would call with something, like, ‘On the plane, we don’t want coach, we want first class.’ Then they said, ‘We don’t want four [hotel] rooms, we want five.’ Then they decided they didn’t want [to travel in] a van; they wanted either a limo or a very large SUV, with a driver.… It became an unhealthy working relationship.”

Carter’s next typo-riddled press release claimed 2 Live Crew would be replaced by “The Original Sugarhill Gang,” known for 1979’s “Rapper’s Delight” (recognized as one of the first hip-hop singles).

Along with Carter’s band (Willie Psycho) and a San Diego—based band named Vegasaint, the eight-date tour is supposed to begin June 5 in Las Vegas. The press release claimed that tour dates and venues could be found at wwconcerts.com. As of last Friday, not a single date or venue had been posted. Phone calls to Carter yielded no information.

Meanwhile, Sugarhill Gang’s official website lists them playing Houston on June 5 – not Vegas – with tickets having been on sale for weeks.

Last Friday, the manager of “The Original Sugarhill Gang,” Carl Smith (aka Blaksmif), said, “The other Sugarhill that’s working in Houston is Joey Robinson; that’s the fake Sugarhill Gang.”

However, Wikipedia’s Sugarhill Gang page says Joe Robinson founded the group with his wife Sylvia. The couple’s son, Joey Robinson, today owns Sugarhill Records, and his version of the Sugarhill Gang has nothing to do with Carter’s tour.

Asked about Carter’s press release, Smith said, “I kind of noticed that they lack some writing talents.… I was told that they [were] working on the venues.… They already sent us our deposit, so we be, like, okay. We ain’t gonna give a deposit back.”

Tickets are being sold for one tour date on June 7, at Angels Roadhouse 2 in Apple Valley, California.

– Jay Allen Sanford

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“We kicked 2 Live Crew off the tour today,” said local musician-turned-promoter Willie Carter (aka Willie Psycho) on May 20. Just days before, he’d sent out a press release touting the Crew’s “comeback.”

According to Carter’s manager Michelle Quintanar, “It got to be really irritating.… Every day, [2 Live Crew’s manager] would call with something, like, ‘On the plane, we don’t want coach, we want first class.’ Then they said, ‘We don’t want four [hotel] rooms, we want five.’ Then they decided they didn’t want [to travel in] a van; they wanted either a limo or a very large SUV, with a driver.… It became an unhealthy working relationship.”

Carter’s next typo-riddled press release claimed 2 Live Crew would be replaced by “The Original Sugarhill Gang,” known for 1979’s “Rapper’s Delight” (recognized as one of the first hip-hop singles).

Along with Carter’s band (Willie Psycho) and a San Diego—based band named Vegasaint, the eight-date tour is supposed to begin June 5 in Las Vegas. The press release claimed that tour dates and venues could be found at wwconcerts.com. As of last Friday, not a single date or venue had been posted. Phone calls to Carter yielded no information.

Meanwhile, Sugarhill Gang’s official website lists them playing Houston on June 5 – not Vegas – with tickets having been on sale for weeks.

Last Friday, the manager of “The Original Sugarhill Gang,” Carl Smith (aka Blaksmif), said, “The other Sugarhill that’s working in Houston is Joey Robinson; that’s the fake Sugarhill Gang.”

However, Wikipedia’s Sugarhill Gang page says Joe Robinson founded the group with his wife Sylvia. The couple’s son, Joey Robinson, today owns Sugarhill Records, and his version of the Sugarhill Gang has nothing to do with Carter’s tour.

Asked about Carter’s press release, Smith said, “I kind of noticed that they lack some writing talents.… I was told that they [were] working on the venues.… They already sent us our deposit, so we be, like, okay. We ain’t gonna give a deposit back.”

Tickets are being sold for one tour date on June 7, at Angels Roadhouse 2 in Apple Valley, California.

– Jay Allen Sanford

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Willie Psycho says "It is rescheduled,at bigger venues." If it's bigger venues and not the original venues, that's not rescheduling. That's an all new tour, and the original dates and venues are canceled. It's only rescheduling if the shows willbe at the original venue on a different date. I doubt Angels Roadhouse would say their show was rescheduled. If the show will now be at a "bigger venue" then Angels Roadhouse and all the other smaller venue shows were canceled. And screwed.

May 28, 2008

Have been reading Mr. Sanford's blurts and cartoons for years...his information has never steered me wrong. I am assuming, anyone that has psycho as part of their name, has to act out some of it. I also wonder if the group has considered playin "Willie Psycho and the Hand Jive".

Me, be, like, thinkin Willie Psycho is a funny guy:)

May 29, 2008

In the meantime, you can catch Vegasaint performing live at the following dates and venues:

5/30 @ Michael's Pub 11506 Oxnard St North Hollywood, CA 91606

6/3 @ The Blue Cafe 210 Promenade Long Beach, California 90802

6/21 @ Anchor's Bar and Grill 325 Harbour Cove Dr. Sparks, Nevada 89506

7/12 @ Navajo Nation Event Gallup, New Mexico

7/25 @ Michael’s Pub 11506 Oxnard St North Hollywood, CA 91606

Check www.vegasaint.com for more info

May 29, 2008

Why would Willie Psycho announce all these tours telling everyone details are on his website, and THEN he says he won't post the venue names until he collects all the venue deposits? That's not really announcing anything. And what happened to all the deposits he collected for all those canceled shows? His comment admits he's collecting venue deposits again, even though none of his shows with 2 Live crew or Sugar Hill have ever happened. I wouldn't want to be one of those poor venues!

Sage

May 29, 2008

Oh..boy... we have some cyber-ganstas on here...

May 30, 2008

Willie doesn't seem like such a bad guy. Jay, give the cat a break on the typos. You're going to have to join the Reader Typo Patrol, dude.

I think most people, when promoting their shows, get frustrated by various things. And, if something comes off even slightly negative, things get ugly fast.

I've written about parties, where I mention someones business. And, they are thrilled by it. Then, they have a customer that says something negative about the article, and the next day, I'm getting complaints from them. You can never make people happy.

So, as writers, we just try to do our job.

I'm sure Willie is just chillin', with a smoke dangling from his mouth, and is enjoying all the banter.

I think a funny solution to this, Jay, would be for you to do an OVERHEARD IN SAN DIEGO, in which you show Willie selling tickets to shows at various venues, with fans saying "The Sugarhill Gang? Do they do that rap where they say the chicken tastes like wood?"

May 29, 2008

Anyways Jay, Dont forget to point out the typos LOL. Im about done with this for now. Band Rehearsal awaits. Once again Willie PSYCHO is back in the press:)

Keep writing Jay or are you to much of a chicked sh**t. Give me some more press.:)

STAY PSYCHO!!!!!

May 29, 2008

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