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The VoiceofOC.org, a nonprofit investigative news agency based in Orange County, tonight (Aug. 22) broke a story that has been hushed up — Republican politician Carl DeMaio's masturbation in the council men's room.

The story, by Rex Dalton, formerly of the Union-Tribune, says there never has been a public accounting, until this story appeared, of DeMaio in 2009 allegedly leaving "the San Diego City Council dais during meetings to masturbate in a men's room — events known by elected officials and suspected by members of the media," according to the story.

In the months before last November's mayoral election, Ben Hueso, city council president in 2009, told Dalton that he witnessed DeMaio engaging in the practice twice. Hueso, now a Democratic state senator, suspected the activity was more frequent.

When Hueso caught DeMaio with his pants down masturbating in a urinal, he said "I'm sorry, I'm sorry," six times, according to the story. City Councilwoman Marti Emerald confirmed Hueso's account, saying she saw Hueso in the hallway after one encounter.

Hueso was in a state of shock and described the incident to Emerald, according to the story.

In the election campaign, a letter was sent to DeMaio's staff about Filner's mistreatment of women. But DeMaio never used the information. "It could have been mutually assured destruction. If DeMaio raised it, Filner could have trumped it," said UCSD political scientist Steve Erie in the story.

DeMaio's spokesman termed the report "absurd and ludicrous."


UPDATE:

Just received at Reader office, today, August 26

August 23, 2013

This office represents Carl DeMaio. On August 22, 2013, your publication printed a story that included statements attributed to Ben Hueso regarding a 2009 incident. Mr. DeMaio has asked me to inform you that what Mr. Hueso claims to have observed, as reported by you, did not occur. Your story went further than merely reporting Mr. Hueso's alleged statements. It adopted them as fact and also suggested there were multiple witnesses. There were not.

This will constitute a request for a correction of the untrue statements. This request is made pursuant to California Civil Code §48(a). Please also do not republish the statements of Mr. Hueso, as to which Mr. DeMaio has issued an unqualified denial.

In Mr. Dalton's underlying story, he quotes Mr. Hueso as saying former City Councilman Tony Young also witnessed such conduct. He also makes reference to "other who purportedly knew," without identifying them by name. Notwithstanding these very specific representations of "other" witnesses, Mr. Dalton's story does not provide any indication he made any effort to corroborate the claims with any of them, other than Mr. Young. Notably, Mr. Young has not corroborated Mr. Hueso's statements.

Other than the failure to obtain any corroborating evidence, the mere timing of this story should have raised serious issues to a responsible media organization.

Let me repeat – Mr. DeMaio categorically denies Mr. Hueso's allegations.

Sincerely,
Robert P. Ottilie

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Diogenes Aug. 23, 2013 @ 12:21 a.m.

Don,

What a low blow!

Well MAD must now go into effect.

And the U-T will plaster it all over the front page, no doubt. Not!

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Psycholizard Aug. 23, 2013 @ 12:26 a.m.

Look, if it were a low blow, he wouldn't have been masturbating.

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Diogenes Aug. 23, 2013 @ 1:03 a.m.

He could walk and chew bubble gum at the same time.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 9:58 a.m.

Diogenes: But would he make a good mayor? Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 9:59 a.m.

Scott Marks: The news finally got out. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:35 a.m.

Psychlizard: Touche! Best, Don Bauder

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Psycholizard Aug. 23, 2013 @ 1:54 a.m.

Personally I prefer pinups, but I suppose conservatives might find the UT front page worth plastering on. To each his own.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:38 a.m.

Psycholizard: The U-T fits very nicely into the bottom of bird cages. It's a cure for canary constipation. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:18 a.m.

Diogenes: Watch the U-T. If it does not pick up this story in a balanced way, then you should drop your subscription. Best, Don Bauder

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randydotinga Aug. 23, 2013 @ 12:23 a.m.

Why didn't you pursue this story from your perch in Colorado, Don? Did you "hush" it up yourself?

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Duhbya Aug. 23, 2013 @ 2:40 a.m.

Atoningdryad: maybe you should try hushing it up yourself?

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:49 a.m.

Duhbya: I wonder if the Voice will pick up the story. Best, Don Bauder

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Duhbya Aug. 23, 2013 @ 9:01 a.m.

Yeah, this could be Batman's big break.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 10:01 a.m.

Duhbya: It requires great reporting -- which Rex Dalton has already done. Best, Don Bauder

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dwbat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 12:54 p.m.

Why is that? I don't write for VOSD.

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dwbat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 4:18 a.m.

He's been too busy slamming other journalists in San Diego (who do live here), saying they are all corrupt or incompetent. And he's building a giant telescope so he can view the blinking El Cortez Hotel sign from his manse.

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KayL Aug. 23, 2013 @ 6:44 a.m.

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Psycholizard Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:38 a.m.

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dwbat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:48 a.m.

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Psycholizard Aug. 23, 2013 @ 10:09 a.m.

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dwbat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 12:36 p.m.

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Scott Marks Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:51 a.m.

Is this map to scale? It's the Amazing Colossal Bauder!

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:52 a.m.

David Batterson: "All" corrupt or incompetent? Not true. Not even close.

The story under discussion is a classic example. Rex Dalton, who lives in San Diego County, is a superb reporter. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 3:22 p.m.

dwbat and Randy: Your comments show your inability to read. I did not write the story. I just quoted from it. It was written by a superior reporter, Rex Dalton, who lives in San Diego County. Best, Don Bauder

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dwbat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 6:59 p.m.

You used the story (without verification). I didn't say you "wrote" it.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:21 a.m.

randydotinga: Rex Dalton is a superb reporter. I didn't get the story because he did, and pursued it doggedly. I am sure that is something you don't understand. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 10:02 a.m.

Randy: It was Rex Dalton's story all along. Best, Don Bauder

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sdguy57 Aug. 23, 2013 @ 12:32 p.m.

Colorado is a lot closer to San Diego than Uruguay.

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dwbat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 12:38 p.m.

What Reader reporter lives in Uruguay?

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 3:23 p.m.

sdguy57: That one went right over my head. Best, Don Bauder

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Tired_of_PC Aug. 25, 2013 @ 7:22 a.m.

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rehftmann Aug. 24, 2013 @ 10:13 a.m.

randydotinga: Is invalidating a story based on a reporter's home address your idea of reporting, or is it intimidation? You've trolled here long enough. If anybody wants to read you, they know where to find you.

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dwbat Aug. 24, 2013 @ 11:08 a.m.

It's a valid point. Would Randy write about Denver politics while living here? Of course not. Reporters obviously rely a lot on email and phone, but getting out in the city to talk with people in person is equally important. I do it all the time; I'm guessing Randy and other reporters at VOSD do the same

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rehftmann Aug. 24, 2013 @ 3:44 p.m.

Huh? David Batterson: you seriously misread me. randydotinga responded not with facts but a personal attack. If you are a reporter, stop writing what you are guessing and read more carefully so you can respond appropriately. To answer your question, I would not hazard a guess on how "Randy" would report on Denver politics. If all a reporter needs to do is "talk with people," his record reporting San Diego politics is about as good as one can expect. People say the darndest things. Facts on the other hand, come from research beyond hearsay.

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dwbat Aug. 24, 2013 @ 4:27 p.m.

RE: "Facts on the other hand, come from research beyond hearsay." Uh, tell me something I DON'T know. I do research all the time, as does Randy. Every reporter does; so stop stating the obvious.

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Don Bauder Aug. 25, 2013 @ 6:47 a.m.

David Batterson: The difference is I have recovered San Diego for 40 years. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 10:23 p.m.

Randy: I didn't pursue it because Rex Dalton, an excellent reporter, was already on it. Best, Don Bauder

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Psycholizard Aug. 23, 2013 @ 12:24 a.m.

Ludicrous yes. It wouldn't have changed my vote. Might have changed my choice of restrooms.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:22 a.m.

Psycholizard: Changing bathrooms wouldn't have helped in this matter. Best, Don Bauder

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Psycholizard Aug. 23, 2013 @ 12:31 a.m.

You've got to admire a man who can stand up for himself in the most difficult of circumstances.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:23 a.m.

Psycholizard: Touche! Best, Don Bauder

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schlomodeltoro Aug. 23, 2013 @ 12:50 a.m.

Ewww, him and Joe Lizura are demon masturbaters

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:26 a.m.

schlomodeltoro: Yes, but Lizura was only a TV weatherman. Best, Don Bauder

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Diogenes Aug. 23, 2013 @ 12:50 a.m.

Don did indeed have a dossier on DeMaio that trumps even the Filner charges..

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:27 a.m.

Diogenes: I have knowledge of DeMaio but I wouldn't say I have a dossier. Best, Don Bauder

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Psycholizard Aug. 23, 2013 @ 1:50 a.m.

There's nothing terrible about this behavior, it's the hypocrisy. Let's have a laugh, hope he takes this warning to be more discrete, and never calls anyone a pervert. They say it takes one to know one, in the biblical meaning of "know" anyway.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:28 a.m.

Psycholizard: The hypocrisy is part of this. But only PART of it. Best, Don Bauder

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Duhbya Aug. 23, 2013 @ 2:35 a.m.

This will make it hard for him to ever become mayor.

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dwbat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 4:25 a.m.

And that's definitely a good thing! But did you have to say "hard" there? Ewww. TMI!

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:35 a.m.

David Batterson: It will be hard for some others to be mayor. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:33 a.m.

Duhbya: Your double entendre is excellent. But in truth, there should be many more consequences of Dalton's revelation.

One of them is that whoever replaces Filner as mayor better be clean. And those who have pushed for Filner's removal better look over their shoulder, especially if they are carrying baggage. Best, Don Bauder

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Duhbya Aug. 23, 2013 @ 9:28 a.m.

This entire ordeal could turn out to be (almost) worth it if the upshot is that all future candidates are properly scrutinized. Of course Manchestbeater will continue his hands off treatment of his horses for as long as he owns the stables.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 10:05 a.m.

Duhbya: The U-T will either ignore the story, bury, or try to kill the messenger. it. It is an embarrassment to that publication. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 25, 2013 @ 6:51 a.m.

Duhbya: I didn't see coverage of the DeMaio rest room incident in Sunday's (Aug. 25) U-T. It may have been there, but was concealed in such a way that few would see it. People should drop that propaganda rag. Best, Don Bauder

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Duhbya Aug. 25, 2013 @ 8:19 a.m.

I'm sure they're taking their time for the sake of accuracy. They'd never print unsubstantiated rumors, right?

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 3:25 p.m.

Duhbya: I certainly hope so. Maybe it will interfere with his from making it to Congress, too. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:36 a.m.

Ensenadamaria: Yes, it can get worse, and it likely will -- for those who cooked up the Filner lynching. Best, Don Bauder

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paulmclarke Aug. 24, 2013 @ 12:49 p.m.

the "Filner lynching"

You and Filner both make me want to puke when you use such words. Being literally strung up from a tree until you die should never be mentioned in the same breath as what that Filthy Filner had happen to him.

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 10:27 p.m.

paulmclarke: "Lynching is actually a good word to describe what happened. Best, Don Bauder

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FatCatSegat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:19 a.m.

Your party? My party? We lost our respective parties to the rich, the corporations, the developers, the insurance industry, and on and on and on. There must be someplace hush, hush where the Big Wigs hold a sort of "Candidate Idol" right? They must be photogenic, and most of all, when their lips start moving it should all be half truths, all out lies or a simple avoidance of any questions. But seriously, can somebody honest who really cares about his or her communities run for office? Is it possible in this day and age to find that? I would say not. And even if it were to happen, they would go down in a hailstorm of false and misleading press releases.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:40 a.m.

FatCatSegat: The downtown corporate welfare overlords run San Diego. They are rejoicing now. Their intergovernmental extra-level coup at this point looks like it will work. But there is more ahead. Best, Don Bauder

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David Dodd Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:45 a.m.

Hueso decides to claim that DeMaio did this? Oh, wow. This is pure politics, just accuse someone of something and it's true. And Hueso is probably guilty of sexual harassment for telling Marti Emerald what he supposedly witnessed. I'm sure that anyone could accuse me of much worse without any proof at all. Hueso = staunch democrat while DeMaio = staunch republican. But I'm sure this is all irrelevant.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:56 a.m.

David Dodd: Hueso would hardly be guilty of sexual harassment for telling Emerald of a revolting thing he witnessed. Best, Don Bauder

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KLoEditor Aug. 23, 2013 @ 4:17 p.m.

What, you mean claims aren't good enough to frame Mayo as a sexual predator who wanks in every public bathroom of San Diego? PMSL!!!!

Now we gotta wait and see if Hooters will put up signs telling him to keep outta there.

Hmmm, I think I see a problem there .....

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:35 p.m.

KLoEditor: Personally, I don't believe Allred has a good case. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 10:29 p.m.

KLoEditor: I don't think sexual predator is an apt description of DeMaio in that instance. Best, Don Bauder

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BlueSouthPark Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:58 a.m.

Let me be the first to remind: Carl named his org The Performance Institute, which he describes as the "nation's largest and most influential governmental reform think tank."
Ahhh. Yeccch. I'm beginning to get the picture.

Having watched Carl go completely, full-bore, red-faced, mean-mouthed ballistic in more than one council session, I know that we need to learn more about his possible psychiatric status: Avoidant Personality Disorder, which includes compulsive masturbation. As for rushing into the public bathroom to masturbate, Carl may have slyly summed it up: ""I am first and foremost someone whose passion is public service, not business. ... If we can show reform in San Diego, it becomes a model nationwide." Yow, yecch.

This is where randy Randy could apply his only expertise. As the former writer for Sex Drive Daily, randy Randy could flesh this out for us instead of wasting his time playing around.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:58 a.m.

BlueSouthPark: I would not be surprised if the subject of personality disorder comes up later. But I have no inside information on that. Best, Don Bauder

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HonestGovernment Aug. 23, 2013 @ 4:45 p.m.

BSP is talking about this: google "sex drive daily"

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Don Bauder Aug. 25, 2013 @ 6:55 a.m.

HonestGovernment: I do no know of BSP's "sex drive daily." Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:37 p.m.

KLoEditor: Randy Dotinga is a free-lance writer who pens things for the Voice several times a week. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 10:30 p.m.

KLoEditor: Randy is Randy Dotinga. I have no idea if he is randy. Best, Don Bauder

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Scott Marks Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:08 a.m.

Hey I wanna' tell ya', I was in it for Filner, but now I'm pulling for DeMaio. It's a urinal, not a sperminal. Hasn't this cat been hipped to stalls with doors where one can sit down and take a load off?

The mortified look on Marti Emerald's face must have been the funniest thing Hueso ever came across.

If this story isn't true, it should be!

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dwbat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:15 a.m.

hahahahaha! A great morning laugh! Are you trying to make me spit out my coffee onto my keyboard?

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 10:09 a.m.

David Batterson: When you think about the implications of this -- and I hope you are capable of that -- you won't be laughing. Best, Don Bauder

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dwbat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 12:25 p.m.

I was laughing at Scott Marks' funny comments. Am I allowed to do that, or do your forbid it, your Royal Highness?

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 10:32 p.m.

David Batterson: Not at all, your Royal Heinous. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 9:01 a.m.

Scott Marks: Neither Hueso nor Emerald considered it funny, I am led to believe. Best, Don Bauder

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Scott Marks Aug. 23, 2013 @ 1:04 p.m.

You know what's really not funny, Don? How this weaselly meeskite got off thinking he is George Clooney. The power didn't go to his head, it went to his crotch. I can deal with the fanny-patting and mercy-flirting with granny Peggy, but we have...had a mayor who was so eager to get his rocks off that he hit on rape victims?! Now that's chutzpah! In my book, that places him a few clicks above a short eyes on the Wheel of Creeps. As much as I hate to see all of his good work undone by a band of slimy politicos who view him as a roadblock to riches, the guy is a serial worm who got his comeuppance.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 3:28 p.m.

Scott Marks: That is certainly one point of view. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 25, 2013 @ 6:58 a.m.

KLoEditor: What does PMSL mean? Best, Don Bauder

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Diogenes Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:12 a.m.

Masturbating is a public restroom is a criminal offense. Scott Peters - no pun intended - will certainly be able to hold his seat - again, no pun intended.

Despite the failure of the U-T to cover this story, this will be circulated nationally on the Bill Maher Realtime and elsewhere.

The U-T will be held to account for covering this up or not knowing about it when they endorsed DeMaio.

I'll have to take Steve Erie out for a glass of wine to discuss the political ramifications. But the allegations seem to be credible and show a real problem with judgment and character.

The issue is not one of sexual orientation but conduct that shows that sitting through a meeting is not possible without masturbation in a public restroom., if allegations are true.

San Diego needs a person in office with impeccable character.

Diogenes never did find an honest man. This will be very hard to find.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 9:13 a.m.

Diogenes: These questions are discussed in the original story by Rex Dalton. You can get it at www.voiceofoc.org . Dalton's email address is at the bottom of the story: rexdalton@aol.com. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 3:30 p.m.

Diogenes: Yes, San Diego need politicians with impeccable credentials, but.... Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 10:34 p.m.

KLoEditor: You may have to wait a long time. Best, Don Bauder

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patflannery Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:34 a.m.

I seem to remember that shortly after taking his seat on the City Council DeMaio suggested that the Council "toss for it" as a quick way of resolving some issue or other. I wondered what he meant at the time.

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dwbat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:50 a.m.

I can't wait for the political cartoons on this one!

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 9:22 a.m.

David Batterson: The town's best-known political cartoonist is on the Union-Tribune. In all probability, you will have to wait forever for him to address this one. Best, Don Bauder

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dwbat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 12:52 p.m.

Yes, I know. Steve Breen. This one is really good!

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 9:20 a.m.

Pat: As Dalton's story relates, DeMaio's alleged activities were well known around City Hall. An aide to Mayor Sanders sketched out a work plan that would concern "DeMaio's being caught committing a self-gratifying sexual act in City Hall restroom, reserved for male council members, during a council meeting."

That memo was written in 2011. San Diegans who are so anxious to investigate and oust Mayor Bob Filner should demand an investigation of this incident, and also an investigation of how it got buried. Best, Don Bauder

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HonestGovernment Aug. 23, 2013 @ 10:32 a.m.

I find DeMaio's behavior very disturbing, not funny. He has some psychological problems of self-control that are routinely apparent, such as uncontrolled anger, a tendency to demean others, and very low frustration levels in public settings. The behavior described in Dalton's well-done report is disturbing on another level. So, this was well-known? That may explain what Dumanis was talking about to the Deputy Sheriff's Association guy at a Republican gathering. I leave you all to provide your own caption.

None

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 10:37 p.m.

HonestGovernment: Dumanis was certainly not discussing your name: HonestGovernment. Best, Don Bauder

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politicalsanity Aug. 23, 2013 @ 9:31 a.m.

I'm somewhat curious as to why Dalton waited until now to break the story, if it was so well known around City Hall. What sort of quid pro quo was given so that Hueso and Emerald didn't make a criminal complaint?

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 10:13 a.m.

politicalsanity: I gave Dalton's email above. You should ask him that question. Best, Don Bauder

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dwbat Aug. 24, 2013 @ 2:02 p.m.

Why don't YOU ask him? You chose to run his story, without any verification on your part (besides telling us of your ongong "bromance" with that reporter)?

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Duhbya Aug. 24, 2013 @ 2:25 p.m.

I have flagged this post. Homophobic is as homophobic does.

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dwbat Aug. 24, 2013 @ 4:07 p.m.

You do not understand the term. "Bromance" refers to two STRAIGHT guys who admire each other a lot, like we saw on the wonderful TV series, "Scrubs." There was nothing homophobic at all about my comment. Heck, "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" apparently had a "bromance" (even though it wasn't called that). Or Laurel and Hardy. Martin and Lewis, The Three Stooges, etc. etc. From wikipedia: "A bromance is a close non-sexual relationship between two (or more) men, a form of affectional or homosocial intimacy." Now do you understand? Next time if you don't grasp a pop culture reference, ask someone who does understand it to explain it to you.

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 10:40 p.m.

David Batterson: Hmmm. Bromance refers to mutual admiration between two straight guys, but you refer to the Three Stooges. Best, Don Bauder

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Burwell Aug. 23, 2013 @ 9:31 a.m.

If the restroom was designed for a single occupant with a locking door, then DeMaio may have had the right to expect privacy and his actions may have been legal. On the other hand, Hueso's attempts to defeat the lock on a single occupant restroom for the purpose of observing DeMaio urinate may be a sex crime. It appears that Hueso is a self-admitted voyeur and should be required to register as a sex offender. It's possible that Hueso cooked up this entire story to cover his compulsion to watch DeMaio urinate.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 10:15 a.m.

Burwell: I can't address the legalities here, but I can ask this query: why didn't DeMaio make sure the door was locked? Best, Don Bauder

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KLoEditor Aug. 23, 2013 @ 4:36 p.m.

LOL did you even read the story? Hueso and Young both saw him wanking over a urinal! Hueso said to the reporter that he was standing in the middle of the bathroom.

Privacy, PMSL!

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Burwell Aug. 23, 2013 @ 4:56 p.m.

Yes I read the story. The restroom was a single occupant restroom with a combination keypad lock. Hueso ran up behind DeMaio and caught the door so it could not lock. Then he had to have waited a few seconds for DeMaio to pull his zipper down, before rushing in to allegedly catch DeMaio in the act. Hueso committed a crime by attempting to enter a restroom, through artifice, that was designed for only one person to use at a time. DeMaio had the expectation of privacy when he entered the restroom.

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 10:44 p.m.

Burwell: You report it then. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 10:43 p.m.

KLoEditor: Thanks for the reminder. Everyone should read the story at voiceofoc.org. Best, Don Bauder

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Diogenes Aug. 23, 2013 @ 9:37 a.m.

Turn about is fair play.

Now may I psychoanalyze? If thought so, as long as the analysand is not Filner.

In high conflict politicians we have basically five types:

Narcissistic, Borderline, Paranoid, Antisocial, and Histrionic. All have substantial overlap with other personality disorders, substance abuse, depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder and suicide.

--Journal of Clinical Psychiatry, 7/2004, 4/2008 &7/2008.

These are enduring patterns of behavior, from early childhood and adolescence, with extreme behavior, extreme emotions, extreme thinking, interpersonal dysfunction, impulse control problems, which are outside of cultural norms.

People with personality disorders lack awareness of why they are the way they are and how they contribute to their own problems.

Which if any of these personality problems are we seeing here?

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 10:18 a.m.

Diogenes: You have always done your homework. Yours is a very interesting post. I don't know the answers but I think a lot of people should be seeking answers. What is it about those who go into politics -- especially men? Best, Don Bauder

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Diogenes Aug. 23, 2013 @ 10:47 a.m.

Thanks, Don!

I have had the degree from UCLA and must use it every day.

Regarding politicians, and understanding voter behavior, We have to shift to behavioral anthropology and social psychology.

Spaces does not permit but I have some ideas of why people follow those with such strong beliefs only to discover the leader's psychopathology.

We must look to primate behavior for that explanation. The Alpha monkey hypothesis requires that the leader appear tough and certain of attitudes, values, and beliefs, even extreme ones. The authoritarian personality works best with right.wingers.

I'd be happy to elaborate elsewhere.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:46 p.m.

Diogenes: Maybe you can weigh in on the similarities between Filner and Goldsmith -- as well as the differences. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 24, 2013 @ 7:51 a.m.

Diogenes: What about idealism in public service? I find it difficult to believe that all politicians fall neatly into these categories, although categorization is helpful in ordering data.

Are you speaking here, as earlier, only of "high conflict" politicians? Where does that line get drawn? Thanks.

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Don Bauder Aug. 25, 2013 @ 7:03 a.m.

Yankeedoodle: Idealism in public service? You know better. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 25, 2013 @ 8:33 a.m.

No, Don, I don't know better. To be flawed, to have moments of weakness, is the lot of humans, but does not preclude idealism.

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glenn Aug. 24, 2013 @ 9:31 a.m.

The authoritarian personality helps BOTH right and left wingers to Get Elected. Bob is the recent case in point.
It does not however help them to govern.

In fact authoritarian attitudes get in the way of good governance; at least in my view.

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Don Bauder Aug. 25, 2013 @ 7:05 a.m.

glenn: No argument here. Authoritarianism gets in the way of good government. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 10:47 p.m.

Diogenes: I would like to hear more from you about why men in power re so often sexually abusive. Best, Don Bauder

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patflannery Aug. 23, 2013 @ 10:17 a.m.

Campaign bumper sticker:

"Honk if you're pulling for DeMaio"

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dwbat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 12:31 p.m.

It's a rumor now that DeMaio's favorite song is Michael Jackson's "Beat It."

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rehftmann Aug. 23, 2013 @ 10:44 a.m.

At the risk of meandering off-topic, I'm too am wondering about who's covering the news since it has become obvious that there is a link between news-voice and news-truth. What is a "VoiceOf" and why do we hear voices from OC before SD? Is there a reason VOSD turned right about the time they upgraded a few months ago? Why can't I see much difference in content or form looking at VOSD or U-T pages? VOSD, which only claims 1600 "members," says they rebuilt the site with help from the web companies who work for ESPN, NBC Universal, and NASDAQ, DowJones, Reuters… running with the big boys, which I assume costs big bucks. Maybe I'll stop worrying about the truth, because sorting it out in San Diego is tough. Here there is very little news, mostly only stories.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:50 p.m.

rehftmann: It's my understanding that the Orange County Voice and the San Diego Voice are not related financially. Best, Don Bauder

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rehftmann Aug. 24, 2013 @ 7:37 a.m.

Let's call it a coincidence. "Reader" is a popular name for alternative tabloids also, as are many other news nameplates. But what I was asking is, who drives VOSD? The curtain has been pulled back on U-T and KPBS, but how can VOSD afford its team of crack reporters?

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dwbat Aug. 24, 2013 @ 1:04 p.m.

From wikipedia: "The San Diego Reader was founded in 1972 by Jim Holman, who attended Carleton College and was one of the original group who established the Chicago Reader. Although Holman briefly owned shares in the Chicago paper, none of the Chicago owners had an interest in the San Diego paper. Holman used the Reader format and nameplate with the blessings of his friends in Chicago." It also said the defunct Los Angeles Reader was originally owned by the Chicago Reader.

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rehftmann Aug. 24, 2013 @ 4:04 p.m.

David Batterson: Pointing us to Wikipedia falls somewhat short of a useful response. You wouldn't submit a high school paper with that as the only source, especially when the question was about VOSD, not Reader. Fail, but you did try. If you do have relevant and verifiable information, VOSD's Wikipedia entry could certainly use some updating. It's as far as some people (even reporters) go and it is important to consider the source.

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dwbat Aug. 24, 2013 @ 4:17 p.m.

I wasn't responding to the question about VOSD. I just decided to add some background info on how the San Diego Reader came to be. Therefore, there was no "fail" at all. It was basically a little sidebar piece. [Look it up, if you don't know the word.]

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Duhbya Aug. 24, 2013 @ 5:20 p.m.

Bat****crazy - does your oh so impressive faux resume include "football coach"? Because you're a defensive mastermind. [Look it up, off you don't understand the reference].

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 10:49 p.m.

rehftmann: Voice of San Diego survives on donations. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 25, 2013 @ 7:09 a.m.

rehftmann: The local press's biased handling of the Filner scandal -- and now its apparent ignoring of the DeMaio incident -- will certainly be a subject for scholars to probe. Title of the dissertation: The Kept Press. Best, Don Bauder

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BrianBrady Aug. 23, 2013 @ 11:03 a.m.

I call BS. If Hueso saw that, it would have come out in the Mayoral campaign especially when the "reporter" was "hired" to dig up dirt on DeMaio.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:51 p.m.

BrianBrady: There are other reasons why it didn't come out during the campaign. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 10:50 p.m.

BrianBrady: Sorry, to do so would be a violation of confidence. Best, Don Bauder

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Psycholizard Aug. 23, 2013 @ 11:21 a.m.

This DeMaio case is stronger than all the Filner cases put together. First off it's a crime that doesn't depend on consent, not a civil case that does. Secondly the witnessed event was reported immediately. Third there is a timely document.

This is a crime, but morally I think his hypocrisy is worse, he didn't think up his hot blooded urges, and they're basically self destructive. But in full knowledge of his own compulsions, in a cold hearted scheme of personal gain, he condemns a man as a pervert who has never been reported improperly unzipped. He's a demented monster in public life, unfortunately, that's not a crime.

But....If we don't want to be hypocrites also, we should cut him some slack. Nobody was hurt, and he gave us a good laugh. But Mr'. DeMaio, take warning, if you do this where someone under eighteen might walk in on you, you will be frog hopping in orange.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:55 p.m.

Psycholizard: It's not that anyone got hurt. It that does San Diego want suck a man with such a psychological profile?

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 10:53 p.m.

KLoEditor: It was an error on my part. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 10:51 p.m.

Yankeedoodle: Yes, I meant "such." Thanks. Best, Don Bauder

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Burwell Aug. 23, 2013 @ 12:15 p.m.

Caitlin Rother was hired to investigate this claim. The incident is mentioned in Caitlin's emails that are circulating the internet in PDF form. I don't know what Caitlin was able to uncover. Inspecting Carl's hands for callouses may provide some confirmation of this story.

Now that Filner is stepping down, the case of whether Goldsmith used a laser microphone and video surveillance to spy on Filner needs to be pursued. Goldsmith may have written himself a legal opinion that says it's legal for his office to spy on Filner, since employees have no expectation of privacy in the workplace. Inquiries need to be made to determine if Goldsmith is using city funds to perform surveillance operations on his opponents, or using funds contributed by others. Goldsmith may well be spying on the other Council Members, since he is the only elected official that speaks for the entire city. Goldsmith is the arbiter of the law, and he is a law unto himself. In order to protect the city from lawsuits, Goldsmith needs to be proactive. Keep tabs on everyone by spying on them in order to prevent future lawsuits.

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Psycholizard Aug. 23, 2013 @ 1:25 p.m.

No need for calluses, that's what extra virgin olive oil is for. Imagine my shock and disgust when I heard people put it on their food.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:02 p.m.

Burwell: Yes, Caitlin Rother was going to look into this matter with DeMaio, but I don't know what happened. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 10:56 p.m.

Burwell; 1. Yes, Caitlin Rother was hired to investigate this matter. Also, a staffer of Jerry Sanders wrote a memo on it. 2.Obviously, I have been trying to find out about the spying incident. I know it happened. I can't find who did it, but I know who within city government knew about it . I hope to have more. Best, Don Bauder

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DavidnPB Aug. 23, 2013 @ 12:26 p.m.

DeMaio also famously Texted during pubic testimony during Council Meetings, and also at a while he say on stage at a funeral for a San Diego Police Officer.

We only thought he was a jerk off---now that has been confirmed.

I am sure some great tee shirt designer is working on some fabulous new products for the mayoral campaign.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:04 p.m.

DavidnPB: Which office will he run for? It could be mayor or Congress. Best Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 10:58 p.m.

Yankeedoodle: If there is such a contest. Best, Don Bauder

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hertzogsays Aug. 23, 2013 @ 12:52 p.m.

What is left behind when Carl DeMaio leaves a City Hall restroom?

Carl DeMaio-naisse

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Scott Marks Aug. 23, 2013 @ 2:22 p.m.

Q: What did the City Council member say to the men's room attendant? A: "Hold DeMaio."

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 10:59 p.m.

Scott Marks: These puns...wow. Best, Don Bauder

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anniej Aug. 23, 2013 @ 1:51 p.m.

What has happened to this City and to those parties whose representatives are chosen because their message is the message we all share?

Perhaps those commenting are like I, so frustrated that they are in a state of shock.

What this story indicates is that our choices were narrowed down to an alleged womanizer and an alleged masturbating freak. REALLY? This is the best that the leading parties could up with? In a City/County of millions this is who the leaders of the Republican and Democratic Parties considered the best among us? If so, we have a much larger problem than these two pretenders.

On top of all of this we have the mess that now defines the South Bay - alleged corruption of both parties, self serving board members using taxpayers funds to bank roll unnecessary clarifications regarding brain trauma sent to the media. Alleged Brown Act violations up the kazoo and a superintendent that is out of control (see Recent Chula Vista neighborhood READER stories).

Folks it is time to walk away from the what is and begin laying a new foundation for what will be on both fronts Republican and Democrats - what we have is simply NOT WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE, any of the people.

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vitalinfo Aug. 23, 2013 @ 5:40 p.m.

Suggested starting point: Strict ethical standards and regulation of news media.

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 11:01 p.m.

vitalinfo: Who would be the regulator? The mayor? The council? Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:11 p.m.

anniej: We don't know that Filner was a womanizer. We know he asked some for dates, perhaps in a gauche way. Best, Don Bauder

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dwbat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 9:45 p.m.

So this is still your take on Filnergate? That he "asked some for dates, perhaps in a gauche way?" Wow! You should call up the producers of "Mad Men" and ask to be on the series. They may need another "sexist pig" actor. I"m beginning to think you are Bob are blood brothers.

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glenn Aug. 23, 2013 @ 3:01 p.m.

Ben Hueso didn't want to use the story? Amazing.
Marty Emerald also kept quiet? Humm. Why would that be?
VOSD could not find a 2nd source? That I believe. In our new age of reporting I am glad that they are not running stuff that can not be verified.
Now that this "story" is out there it's job is done. No need to verify. The damage is done. The short attention span voter is so easily swayed.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:12 p.m.

glenn: I think the story was pinned down quite well. Best, Don Bauder

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glenn Aug. 24, 2013 @ 9:09 a.m.

Don, having been in the hallway by the rest room in question I can tell you that Ben's story does not seem credible. As for story being "pinned down" where is the verification from others?

Story seems like a political plant to discredit a gay candidate. Just my opinion, Glenn

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dwbat Aug. 24, 2013 @ 1:10 p.m.

Don't ask Bauder to verify his accusations. I've tried that before; he won't do it. That is not his modus operandi in the blog.

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Don Bauder Aug. 25, 2013 @ 7:16 a.m.

glenn: Hueso witnessed it twice. Emerald saw Hueso immediately thereafter. Jerry Sanders's aide wrote a privileged memo on it. Caitlin Rother looked into it. Best, Don Bauder

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monaghan Aug. 23, 2013 @ 9:29 p.m.

VOSD can't find an original fact, let alone a second source for a controversial story. "Glad they're not running stuff that can not be verified?" If they're in doubt about something, they make up a "fact check" and apply a label to it, such as "Huckster Propaganda." For the last year, VOSD has produced no news.

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Don Bauder Aug. 25, 2013 @ 7:20 a.m.

monaghan: You should have great skepticism if VOSD claims it couldn't find a second source. I have been in this business almost 50 years; I know how editors will claim that a story needs more reporting when in fact the word has come down from on high that it won't be run. I have been through that several times. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 11:02 p.m.

glenn: The story was pinned down. I suggest you read it. Best, Don Bauder

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dwbat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 3:36 p.m.

I remember "All The President's Men" in which Woodward and Bernstein could never run a Watergate story with one source. Their Washington Post editor (Ben Bradlee) would never allow it. Today a certain Reader reporter runs stories like this in his blog, simply because he wants to. I don't like DeMaio, but I don't think this story has credence. This is a Drudge Report type story by this Reader reporter; he won't (or can't) investigate and verify it as that would take too much time and effort; so he just reposts it. Yet the same reporter criticizes local media for its reporting on Filnergate, calling it a "lynching."

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HonestGovernment Aug. 23, 2013 @ 3:55 p.m.

Dweebat: suggest you spend some time studying the Dunning-Kruger effect. Not that it will help you, but you need something to keep you busy.

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dwbat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 6:04 p.m.

There's a flaw in your assessment. I've always scored very high in intelligence tests. And I'm busy enough. I not only write occasional Reader articles, my activities include photography, making YouTube videos, doing graphic design, gardening, walking all over my North Park neighborhood, reporting graffiti, shopping for collectibles, refinishing furniture, painting (on canvas, not walls), cooking, trying out new restaurants, visiting museums, and traveling. But thanks for your concern as to my well-being. You're a peach.

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Duhbya Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:41 p.m.

In other words, you're quite a lonely person. You think anyone cares what you (purportedly) do? I'm wondering what San Diego did to Portland to deserve you. Go ahead, tell us how much you're missed up there.

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dwbat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 9:52 p.m.

HG said I needed to keep busy. I was merely telling him that I AM busy. Get it? Don't infer anything else from the comment. I'm out and about every day in the neighborhood. As I said before, YOU DON'T KNOW ME. So stop pretending that you do, Dr. Freud. I'm quite a happy person; you are only grasping at straws with your prissy psychobabble.

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Duhbya Aug. 24, 2013 @ 4:53 a.m.

WHO CARES??!!!! No one here, certainly. Drone on (and on, and on, and on, ad infinitum). Yawn...

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dwbat Aug. 24, 2013 @ 1:11 p.m.

You must care, or you wouldn't bother to read what I write. Nobody is forcing to read every comment. Try scrolling down.

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Don Bauder Aug. 26, 2013 @ 6:46 p.m.

Duhbya: Yes, but he says he is intelligent. Salute. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 26, 2013 @ 6:44 p.m.

dwbat: Hurray for you. You score very high on intelligence tests. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 11:07 p.m.

HonestGovernment: He admitted early on that he needed work. Best, Don Bauder

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Scott Marks Aug. 23, 2013 @ 5:14 p.m.

Filner himself referred to it as a lynching in his farewell speech.

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dwbat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 5:50 p.m.

It's interesting that Filner also used a word that has been used constantly by a certain blogger: hysteria. Coincidence? Hmmmm. I haven't heard the word used by anyone else but those two individuals. Makes one ponder.

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Duhbya Aug. 24, 2013 @ 5:06 a.m.

Oh, you're ponderous, all right. Congrats for finally admitting it. Perhaps you're on the road to recovery. We're all pulling for you. (not a Demaio joke).

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 11:05 p.m.

Duhbya: Recovery? Just read the posts. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 11:08 p.m.

Scott Marks: I believe he said "lynch mob." Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:14 p.m.

David Batterson: I think the story was well sourced. I also know much more about the background than you do. Rex Dalton did an excellent job. Best, Don Bauder

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dwbat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 9:54 p.m.

You keep repeating about your love for Dalton. We get it.

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Burwell Aug. 23, 2013 @ 10:04 p.m.

Bauder is not a reporter. He is a columnist who writes columns that are based on his personal analysis and opinion. He evaluated the facts and concluded that DeMaio abused himself in the Council washroom based on his own sources and the Orange County Voice article. You fail to understand that writing a column is different from writing a news report.

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dwbat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 10:20 p.m.

Burwell: do you know anything about the newspaper business? A columnist? I thought he was a blogger (not the same thing as a columnist). But he's also a reporter. His good piece on that Russian mail-order bride for Dougie is not a column; it was a news report in the City Lights section.

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Burwell Aug. 24, 2013 @ 1:02 a.m.

I'm fairly certain that Bauder's piece on Papa Doug's betrothal to the Siberian is a column, not a news report.

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dwbat Aug. 24, 2013 @ 4:20 p.m.

Call up the Reader and ask Ernie Grimm. He can definitely tell you which is which.

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Don Bauder Aug. 26, 2013 @ 6:48 p.m.

Burwell: I consider it a column. I consider myself a columnist. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 11:09 p.m.

Burwell: Yes, dwbat doesn't get the distinction. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 11:03 p.m.

David Batterson: Disagree. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 25, 2013 @ 7:21 a.m.

David Batterson: The story has more credence than the Filner tales. Best, Don Bauder

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sageofsantee Aug. 23, 2013 @ 3:51 p.m.

Wow this Randy Dotinga sure can get bitchy. I remember when he was reporter. For the North County Times I think. I wonder why he's so snippy. Could it be that Bauder is an employed reporter? Anyway, I have the perfect music for DeMaio's radio and TV spots as he runs for congress. It's from South Park a year or two ago. Something about "Jackin it, jackin it, jackin it, jackin it, spankin it, spankin it smackety smack, tell em that I'm jackin it in in San Diego." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhNneU... ...

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randydotinga Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:13 p.m.

Aww, thanks Sage for your incorrect assumption about my work status! I've worked full time as an independent writer for 14 years. I was a full-time reporter for the NCT from 1995-1999, and a columnist thereafter until last year when the U-T bought the paper and I resigned as a result. (I'd crossed paths with CEO John Lynch earlier.)

And yes, in response to a mention somewhere in this thread: I did write, briefly, for a blog on Wired.com (the website of the magazine) about the intersection of sexuality and technology.

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randydotinga Aug. 23, 2013 @ 7:57 p.m.

Also: A few weeks ago or so, somebody made a comment on this site and attributed an excerpt from the aforementioned blog to me. In fact, the co-writer of the blog wrote the excerpt, and her authorship was clearly noted.

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dwbat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 10:11 p.m.

Hey Randy. I also wrote for Wired years ago (in the 1990s), doing reviews for the "Street Cred" section of the print mag. I was a freelance computer journalist for many years.

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 11:11 p.m.

Randy: But you sound like the U-T would like you back. Best, Don Bauder

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randydotinga Aug. 25, 2013 @ 12:25 a.m.

They can't have me back because I never worked for them. Nor would I expect a CEO who told me to "get a life" would appreciate me on the payroll. Never mind what I've publicly written about Manchester.

Also: Lynch doesn't like VOSD. It's on his enemies list. Along with the 919 private email list of U-T folk. And the Reader, I'd suspect, although I don't know that.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:16 p.m.

sageofsantee: Never heard that song. But then, I am not likely to. Best, Don Bauder

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dwbat Aug. 23, 2013 @ 9:57 p.m.

I think the ONLY songs you know are "Happy Birthday" and "Home on the Range."

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 11:13 p.m.

David Batterson: Last night I listened to two Mahler songs. Best, Don Bauder

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ImJustABill Aug. 24, 2013 @ 8:47 p.m.

Yes - I remember that one. I was thinking if the U-T video department wants to give equal time after the Filner/Blurred line video they could make a "Jacking it in San Diego" with DeMaio.

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Don Bauder Aug. 25, 2013 @ 7:58 a.m.

sageofsantee: I am a columnist, not a reporter. But often I wear both hats. Best, Don Bauder

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HonestGovernment Aug. 23, 2013 @ 3:52 p.m.

Mr. Bauder, Looks like you are absolutely correct that this was well-known but went unreported, despite masturbation being a story of interest to the UT. Check out this article by Jeff McDonald on June 8 2012: http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/Jun/08/county-worker-admitted-arousal-work/

Then take a look at the first comment by Jose Rodriguez

Jose Rodriguez · San Diego City College I wonder if DeMaio's job at City Hall made the UT... Reply · · June 12, 2012 at 7:35am

Rodriguez was then a student organizer for the San Diego Labor Council and a candidate for member, Democratic Party County Central Committee: http://www.smartvoter.org/2012/06/05/ca/sd/vote/rodriguez_j/bio.html

Those in the know about DeMaio's compulsive masturbation breaks during San Diego Council meetings plainly included many people in Hueso's Democratic circle of friends.

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:19 p.m.

HonestGovernment: Yes, here were more in the know than those quoted in the story. Best, Don Bauder

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KLoEditor Aug. 24, 2013 @ 1:58 a.m.

So the whole City Council knew what happened and kept their mouths shut, but rushed to call for the Mayor's resignations. Isn't that called hypocrisy? In Emerald's case Big Fat Hypocrite!

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 24, 2013 @ 7:45 a.m.

Not the sort of subject one generally wishes to introduce, I'd think.

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 11:15 p.m.

KLoEditor: Yes, it was hypocrisy. Best, Don Bauder

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sageofsantee Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:04 p.m.

Uh, I don't think your column ended because you "crossed paths with John Lynch." I think it's because the thing was worthless. A former co-worker of yours told me your column was supposed to be about radio but all you wrote about was misunderstood song lyrics, and that you had no clue about radio. oops. Why don't you take more bitchy swipes at people who are actually contributing to the Gross National Product mr. independent writer

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randydotinga Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:31 p.m.

There you go with the assuming again! Pesky habit. The column ended after 14 years and 600+ columns because I decided I would not work for Manchester and Lynch, so I quit. I wasn't the only one who resigned. Dorian Hargrove wrote a story about my decision last year.

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Don Bauder Aug. 25, 2013 @ 8:04 a.m.

Randy: If U-T doesn't pick up the DeMaio masturbation story, all should quit. But none will. Hopefully, some people will drop subscriptions. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 23, 2013 @ 8:32 p.m.

sageofsantee: Maybe Randy can explain everything. Best, Don Bauder

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randydotinga Aug. 24, 2013 @ 12:58 a.m.

There's been discussion on Twitter over the last day about why news organizations in SD didn't run Rex Dalton's story.

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Don Bauder Aug. 25, 2013 @ 8:05 a.m.

Randy: Why aren't those discussions in the publications? Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 11:17 p.m.

sageofsantee: I have crossed paths with Lynch several times, whether Randy has or not. Best, Don Bauder

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MURPHYJUNK Aug. 24, 2013 @ 7:36 a.m.

seems like being in politics and being horny goes "hand in hand"

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Don Bauder Aug. 24, 2013 @ 11:18 p.m.

Murphyjunk: For many male politicians, that appears to be true, and there must be a psychological explanation that I wish some of our sages would get into. (I am not responding to the pun.) Best, Don Bauder

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glenn Aug. 24, 2013 @ 9:21 a.m.

There was a reason that real news organizations didn't publish this story. Only one source, and that source was from a rival party, who knew of their candidate's past and "monsters". The writer could not get ANY one else from the Democratic party, or any party, to verify the charge. No credible source so no one published it during the election. This was as it should be. Likewise there were rumors about Bob before the election that could not get verified in time and were also not published. This also was as it should be.
Now as the next election gears up it gets published. Sad.

For a televised case study on unverified stories watch The Newsroom this Sunday on HBO. Any one who now believes the San Diego Reader is a source of verified news should reconsider. Sorry Reader, I enjoy you, but you are not my source for hard facts or news.

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dwbat Aug. 24, 2013 @ 1:20 p.m.

Wait a minute; please don't paint the Reader with a broad brush. Bauder is not "the San Diego Reader." He simply writes for it, as do MANY people. If you want "hard facts or news," instead read Dorian Hargrove's BS-free news articles, instead of Bauder's braggadocio-blasts. ;-)

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Don Bauder Aug. 25, 2013 @ 7 p.m.

David Batterson: You must believe that the real Reader is the neighborhood news from dwbat. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 25, 2013 @ 8:07 a.m.

glenn: Your post is nonsense and you know it. Had Filner been caught masturbating, it would have been all over the local press. You know that. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 25, 2013 @ 8:09 a.m.

glenn: Mencken deserves beatification. Best, Don Bauder

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Tired_of_PC Aug. 24, 2013 @ 9:46 a.m.

I find it comical that the beginning of this article lauds the VoiceofOC.org as being a "non profit".

There’s nothing inherently moral about a non-profit. It just means the stakeholders get paid in less transparent ways.

I researched them, and note there major source of funding is the Orange County Employees Association.

Thus I conclude that the VoiceofOC.org is yet one more phony scam and is in reality a union lobbying effort megaphone in disguise.

Thus it is no surprise that they are slinging mud at DeMaio being he is not pro union.

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Don Bauder Aug. 25, 2013 @ 8:11 a.m.

Tired_of_PC: You are hallucinating. Like so many others on this blog, you know that if Filner would have been caught masturbating, it would have been blasted all over the local mainstream media. Best, Don Bauder

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Ponzi Aug. 24, 2013 @ 11:35 a.m.

Maybe City Hall needs separate restrooms for the Republicans and Democrats...

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ImJustABill Aug. 24, 2013 @ 12:48 p.m.

Maybe the U-T could give equal time to parody videos - they can start with the South Park "Jacking it in San Diego" (originally based on the Kony 2012 story) and put DeMaio's picture in it. http://us.yhs4.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0oGdMVeDRlSTUEAksel87UF?p=you%20tube%20jacking%20it%20in%20san%20diego&fr=sfp&type=W3i_SP%2C204%2C0_0%2CStartPage%2C20121041%2C17117%2C0%2C18%2C0&hspart=w3i&hsimp=yhs-syctransfer

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Tired_of_PC Aug. 24, 2013 @ 12:50 p.m.

This comment was removed by the site staff for violation of the usage agreement.

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dwbat Aug. 24, 2013 @ 1:21 p.m.

I flagged your homophobic comment.

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Don Bauder Aug. 25, 2013 @ 6:57 p.m.

Tired_of_PC: I think this comment is uncalled for. Best, Don Bauder

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Ponzi Aug. 26, 2013 @ 4:16 a.m.

It sounds like Carl DeMaio may be the most qualified to restore San Diego's once thriving fishing industry, being that he's the most well known master baiter.

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FatCatSegat Aug. 26, 2013 @ 8:41 a.m.

I was wondering how long it would take for the ignorance to rear it's ugly head. What the person does in his home is his business. What he does in public is everyone's business however. Dissapointing.

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Don Bauder Aug. 26, 2013 @ 6:55 p.m.

FatCatSegat: Political candidates should be subject to rigid scrutiny. Best, Don Bauder

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sageofsantee Aug. 26, 2013 @ 3:14 p.m.

Randy Dotinga: "You cant fire me I quit." Randy are you telling me your former co-workers didn't think your radio column was worthless, that you knew nothing about radio and that usually all you wrote about was misuderstood music lyrics you trolled off the internet? Really Randy?

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randydotinga Aug. 26, 2013 @ 4:45 p.m.

I know! My co-workers must have thought it was really, really terrible. That's why the paper paid me to write 600+ radio columns for 14 years. "You're awful! Looking forward to your next column. Oh, and you stink! Here's your paycheck."

As for former co-worker: Did he ever get fired by the NCT? I know one non-fan of mine who did. Maybe he misunderstood a song lyric or something.

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Don Bauder Aug. 26, 2013 @ 7:02 p.m.

Randy (and dwbat, too). You guys have to understand that any columnist worth his or her salt is going to be criticized, and severely. If you don't have a high percentage shrieking that you are some kind of monster or imbecile, you are preaching to the choir. That's why I say all the time that you are both valuable to this blog. Best, Don Bauder

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sageofsantee Aug. 26, 2013 @ 3:53 p.m.

Hey Don. KFI The John and Ken show are talking about it right now live on AM 640. Don't think SD media can ignore it now. Hey, and why doesn't anyone report that Carl's significant other is the owner of SDPIX which is a PORN site. Not a gay paper but a PORN site. Hmmmmmmm! Maybe you could look into it. I know San Diego has gotten a lot conservative but I don't creepy Carl is the right person to replace freaky Filner.

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Don Bauder Aug. 26, 2013 @ 7:04 p.m.

sageofsantee: Yes, Carl's partner deserves more scrutiny than he has thus far received. Best, Don Bauder

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paulmclarke Aug. 26, 2013 @ 7:24 p.m.

Why, why, why? Why are you doing it, Don? Why have you cast your lot with Filthy Filner? Your credibility dwindles with every post about him. The "tales" about him. The "lynch mob". Whining that if Filner was massaging his junk in a bathroom, then the media would plaster it all over.

Is that what you want to become? Just another partisan hack?

Filner's situation is akin to Michael Jackson's years ago. Innocent people who didn't share a bed with underage boys don't pay millions to keep someone quiet. If your hero was innocent, what did he "apologize" for? The great civil rights veteran cut his losses and bailed. Innocent people don't plead guilty unless they are in some sort of torture room. Did your boy Bob ever see the inside of one?

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Psycholizard Aug. 26, 2013 @ 7:46 p.m.

Filner did not plead guilty, he was charged with nothing. He was put in a torture room, if you didn't notice.

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Don Bauder Aug. 26, 2013 @ 9:32 p.m.

paulmclarke: I am afraid you have not read my posts carefully. I have said from the beginning that Filner's behavior was reprehensible. But I doubt that legally it reached the threshold of harassment.

And the results for San Diego will be tragic, because his agenda will be buried and his replacement will be an establishment toady. Just watch. Best, Don Bauder

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Psycholizard Aug. 26, 2013 @ 7:36 p.m.

The allegation has more supporting evidence than any of the Filner claims. This proves hypocrisy more than anything. Every LGBT person has a past that the straight community would find repulsive. That repulsion after all, is what separates the straight from the bisexual.

Members of the LGBT made a terrible mistake when they referred to Bob Filner as deviant, dirty, perverted, etc. Perhaps they did this because Gays and Lesbians find straight sex repulsive. They moved away from the direction we should go, which is increased tolerance for behavior we might find instinctively nauseating, but in fact is not harmful.

Carl DeMaio's escapades certainly are repulsive. I hope it isn't the start of many lurid stories concerning our city leaders, but Pandora's box is open now. Most of the LGBT politicians are Democrats, and though I'm disappointed in most of them now, I don't really want their sex lives examined in detail. That goes for Republicans also.

I wouldn't wish Bob Filner's treatment on my worst enemy.

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Don Bauder Aug. 26, 2013 @ 9:35 p.m.

Psycholizard: I do not believe this is a battle between LGBT and straights. I have nothing against the LGBT community. But there are many people who will say that if I think O.J. Simpson was guilty of murder, I must be anti-African-American. Best, Don Bauder

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Psycholizard Aug. 27, 2013 @ 8:21 a.m.

I hope I'm not misunderstood as condemning the gay lifestyle, when I say that straights will always find details of that lifestyle disgusting, to each their own. My point is that LGBT members should consistently avoid condemning adult sexuality, lest they end up getting caught with their pants down, like Mr.' DeMaio.

In that spirit I defend his antics as foolish but not evil. He's a monster in public life, that's enough. Perhaps City hall needs special private rooms for such behavior. There seems to be a surplus of libido.

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Don Bauder Aug. 27, 2013 @ 2:54 p.m.

Psycholizard: There are interesting questions about DeMaio. Suddenly he showed up and started making noise. Who sent him here? Best, Don Bauder

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Sjtorres Aug. 27, 2013 @ 11:07 a.m.

The most interesting part if this "story" is that it's just a gossipy rumor started by left-wing politician Ben Hueso, and then spread around by left-wing "reporters" like Rex Dalton, Marc Cooper and Don Bauder.

It's sleazy gossip for the sake of politics; and the left-wing faux reporters are happily spreading around with alacrity like so many little school girls.

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 27, 2013 @ 1:52 p.m.

Some folks can dish it out but they can't take it. Will wonders never cease?

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Don Bauder Aug. 27, 2013 @ 2:55 p.m.

Sjtorres: I am hardly surprised by your opinion. Best, Don Bauder

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Duhbya Aug. 27, 2013 @ 12:19 p.m.

Giant guffaw of the year: Don Bauder is a "left wing reporter" ???? Now that characterization is a classic example of what's known as a fertile imagination. Speaking of gossipy rumors. And you were.

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Don Bauder Aug. 27, 2013 @ 2:57 p.m.

Duhbya: I get called both left wing and right wing. Best, Don Bauder

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Duhbya Aug. 28, 2013 @ 6:03 a.m.

Don, in baseball parlance, that's known as touching all the bases.

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sageofsantee Aug. 27, 2013 @ 12:27 p.m.

Are you suggesting a onetime UT reporter and a state assemblyman are creating a conspiracy out of thin air. Hey, former council president-turned-state assemblyman Hueso reported what he saw. If Filner gets hanged for being a freak (and I'm not saying he shouldn't) so should DeMaio. What's fair for the goose is fair for the gander. (In this case Filner did the goosing and Hueso got a gander of DeMaio's...well you know). You just cant have sex or with yourself or another person in a public place. And Don I want you or someone else to report how DeMaio's significant other owns and publishes a porn site, SDPIX.com. Let's do it!!

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Don Bauder Aug. 27, 2013 @ 2:59 p.m.

sageofsantee: Yes, DeMaio's partner, Hale, needs exposure. Best, Don Bauder

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sageofsantee Aug. 27, 2013 @ 2:07 p.m.

Oh and Randy, there were plenty of "nonfans" of yours at the NCT. They didn't hate you. They just knew your column was weak. Oh and what were you getting paid? Like $35 or something? Boy that's a mandate for Randy Dotinga!

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randydotinga Aug. 27, 2013 @ 2:50 p.m.

Oh, my dear, sweet Sage. Your incorrect assumptions are ADORABLE! So is your delightful practice of attacking me by name while hiding your own. Deeply courageous. You are a true man and/or woman of the people. The perennially anonymous people, that is, but still.

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Don Bauder Aug. 27, 2013 @ 3:04 p.m.

Randy: I have been trying to tell you that getting attacked is a feather in the cap of a columnist. Best, Don Bauder

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randydotinga Aug. 27, 2013 @ 3:23 p.m.

It could also mean that you're incompetent.

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Duhbya Aug. 27, 2013 @ 4:06 p.m.

Don't be so hard on yourself, Randall. We like you, we really like you. -John (part-time anonymousist) Sweeney.

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Don Bauder Aug. 28, 2013 @ 7:28 a.m.

Duhbya: Randy takes himself too seriously, but he adds to the blog. We like him. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 28, 2013 @ 7:23 a.m.

Randy: An incompetent columnist won't get readership and will fail. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 27, 2013 @ 3:02 p.m.

sageofsantee:There are a lot of journalists out there getting paid very little. I have no idea if that is true of Randy. Best, Don Bauder

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randydotinga Aug. 27, 2013 @ 3:29 p.m.

There's a wide world of opportunities for freelance writers to make a living, especially on the national level. You've just got to have talent, luck and/or perseverance. Sometimes just one of those is enough, but two is good and three is very good.

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Psycholizard Aug. 27, 2013 @ 4:59 p.m.

Bob Filner' deceived himself, or was deceived, into making passes at single women, who were not his friends. Nothing he is accused of would be morally wrong, let alone illegal, if there was consent. He blundered, he wasn't careful, he underestimated evil. But the more the scandal unfolded, the more sunlight that was cast on the allegations, the more empty of malice Bob Filner proved.

Bob Filner was never accused of forcing any woman to have sex with him by abuse of his position. No one is alleged to have suffered professionally as a result of refusing his advances. He's accused of nothing reprehensible Mr'. Bauder, from where I sit.

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Don Bauder Aug. 28, 2013 @ 7:30 a.m.

Psycholizard: I believe that if you assume that, say, half the charges of the accusers smack of verisimilitude, then his behavior was reprehensible. He admitted as much. Best, Don Bauder

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Psycholizard Aug. 28, 2013 @ 10:24 a.m.

Everything alleged has been done to me, and in turn I did most of it to others. I can't condemn the accused behavior as immoral without being a hypocrite. He made mistakes, he trusted and was betrayed.

We should remember that people pay real money to get close to congressmen and mayors, the accusers had reasons to get his attention, He was a fool to be hooked by these women, phonies every one, but no one should pretend they didn't bait the hook. I only read Cosmopolitan in doctors offices, but even at a glance, I know the point is to spend thousands on advertised products in the dream of driving him wild, getting a date, and getting him into bed. Nearly every one of these accusers get passes every day. They don't report them to the Sheriff usually.

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 28, 2013 @ 3:09 p.m.

Don: None of us has seen this behavior, although we have all met Mr. Filner. It has not been shown in photo or video. Thus, we cannot adduce the subjectivity of perception while opining on the truth of the matter. While reading, I must say I kept waiting for moment when his heinous deed would appear, and it never did. Mostly his behavior sounded un-suave. AKA, normal.

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sageofsantee Aug. 27, 2013 @ 5:01 p.m.

This isn't about Randy being a good or bad freelance writer at this time. It's just that his radio column for the NCTimes was flimsy and often had Internet-dredged filler that had nothing to do with local radio, and this is a secret that can not be hidden. His "radio column" went from once a week, to once every other week, to nothing. Randy, am I making this up? Any way, if we were in New York the New York Post headline would be "Whack-A-Pol." But we're not. So we can only blog it.

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randydotinga Aug. 27, 2013 @ 5:37 p.m.

It's true! My column went twice-monthly about 2 years ago. Can you think of a good reason why a newspaper column in the 21st century -- yup, a NEWSPAPER column in THESE TIMES -- might go from once to twice a month? Any at all?

I'll hold, Mr. and/or Ms. Anonymous, while I sit here using my actual name to show that I stand by my comments and don't hide behind anything.

Jump in here with the big boys, Sage. You can do it.

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Don Bauder Aug. 28, 2013 @ 7:34 a.m.

Randy: I have written a column in the San Diego market for 40 years -- 30 with the U-T and 10 with the Reader. I have incurred plenty of wrath -- among the right people, in my judgment. Best, Don Bauder

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sageofsantee Aug. 27, 2013 @ 6:10 p.m.

randy answer the question. was your "radio" column a weak collection of random cute stuff off the internet (misunderstood song lyrics etc.) mixed in with some press release stuff fed to you, or not. That's all. Whether I'm anonymous or not has nothing to do with whether what I say is true. The staff of the NCTimes knew this. this isn't a personal slur, this isn't about your work now. this is about your so-called "Static" column

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randydotinga Aug. 27, 2013 @ 7:02 p.m.

Dude or dude-ette: This is a personal slur from an anonymous person (you) who's too afraid to stand by his or her words. Words that bash a writer who goes by his actual name and actually has actual balls.

My work? Judge for yourself. I wrote about 600 radio columns for the NCT. Get yourself up to the Escondido library and check the microfilm. Let me know about all those "misunderstood song lyrics" and "press releases."

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SaintJamesHartline Aug. 27, 2013 @ 9:04 p.m.

The main problem with the latest allegation of sexual immorality being made against Carl DeMaio by Ben Hueso is Hueso's credibility. I have been reporting on DeMaio's sexual immorality for many years as well as his homosexual lover Jonathan Hale's extensive ties to the gay pornography industry. So, the allegation being made by Hueso would be nothing new as it relates to DeMaio. However, Hueso has no credibility when making such a claim. Firstly, it seems to be an ongoing pattern among San Diego Democrats at city hall to have firsthand knowledge of improper sexual behavior occurring among themselves and their employees, but they refuse to report such violations of ethics and the law at the actual time of the behavior. Furthermore, Hueso has been fully vested in approving city resolutions to celebrate gay pornographic events like the annual gay pride parade and festival which is nothing more than an annual promotional event for the gay porn industry. Additionally, both Marti Emerald and Ben Hueso have joined DeMaio in honoring homosexual transvestities like Nicole Murray Ramirez, a long time promoter of the gay pornography industry. All of these San Diego politicians, like Bob Filner, have partnered with homosexual political groups to sanction homosexual behavior, foster city support for promiscuous gay sex clubs despite their continued contribution to the expanding of the AIDS epidemic, and the repression of Christian conservative opposition to the biased pro-homosexual agenda that has taken over the city council and the staff who work for the council members. http://jameshartlinereport.blogspot.com/2010/03/san-diegos-gay-anarchy-war-against.htmllink text

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Don Bauder Aug. 28, 2013 @ 7:14 a.m.

SaintJamesHartline: Hartline commented at length on the Orange County story. Best, Don Bauder

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sageofsantee Aug. 27, 2013 @ 11:14 p.m.

Randy....no one hates you. Its just that you threw out the bitchy slur against Don Bauder being from his "perch in Colorado" while YOU are the weakest link. Granted you used your name in this blog discourse. And yes that does count for something while I am anonymous. But your name was also on all those flimsy weak worthless "Static" columns. Bro, I don't know what to tell you other than you spent all those years of your life writing a column that meant absolutely nothing to anybody. I already found three misunderstood lyrics columns that had absolutely nothing to do with SD radio on line. But I guess I ll have to go to the library to find the others . I'm told there are 8 to 12. Good to know that we have another credible journalist "SaintJaimesHartline" adding in to make things clear. Does he work for the gay paper that Carl's friend owns? hmmmmm...Is there no one on the Republican San Diego committee who can figure out this DeMaio thing is a trainwreck almost as bad as Filner. Note to San Diego GOPers: Get an an adult like Ron Roberts or a stable insider like Kevin Faulconer for Christ's sake. Bitchy caustic Carl ain't your answer. Get a stable, decent anchor. Not a willy nilly bitch. I am on your side for Christ's sake! Bathroom pud puller isn't your answer to bob filner.

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randydotinga Aug. 27, 2013 @ 11:29 p.m.

It's fine to say I sucked as a columnist. People definitely thought I did. Others didn't. So what? That's life for anyone who writes anything at all and finds someone to put it out there.

It's wrong to dismiss my work based on a tiny fraction of what I produced when you aren't familiar with anything I wrote. It's wrong to make inaccurate assumptions about my pay or my departure or my writing schedule without bothering to check a single fact or talk to anyone at all who actually knows about such things and isn't me.

Why can't you talk to anyone? Because you're anonymous. Because you want to criticize without accountability. Because you just want to hurt people without being hurt yourself. Because you want attention but not responsibility. You'll never have the latter. This is the last you get of the former.

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Don Bauder Aug. 28, 2013 @ 7:38 a.m.

Randy: My reaction to your reaction to sageofsantee: the lady doth protest too much. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder Aug. 28, 2013 @ 7:15 a.m.

sageofsantee: There is already some talk of Ron Roberts. Best, Don Bauder

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 28, 2013 @ 2:48 p.m.

Don: He has certainly waited his time in line for the job. Are there any other criteria to consider, at this point?

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Duhbya Aug. 28, 2013 @ 6 a.m.

In retrospect, I fail to see what all the hubbub is regarding online anonymity. If anything, in this cyber age of often perverse behavior, I can fault no one for choosing to use a nom de plume. George Orwell's given name was Eric Arthur Blair. Stephen King wrote a series of short novels using the pen name Richard Bachman. Using one's real name online has nothing to do with "actual balls", but rather, in many cases, a legitimate distrust of the pitfalls that accompany online messaging. Case in point: My wife types in all caps. Ok, this is very irritating to many viewers, and I get that. What I don't get are the all too common snide remarks that she receives, from both non and anonymous typists (reaffirming my belief that the web is merely a vehicle for what I call the "soapboxization" of America: "You, too, can be Rush Limbaugh"!) Not one of them, to my knowledge, is capable of thinking beyond the pale. If they did, they might be able to consider that there could be an underlying reason for her usage of caps. As a teen, she was struck with an extremely rare disease, often fatal, that causes full paralysis. She was bed-ridden in Alvarado for over six months, had to learn to walk and speak again, and has residual effects to this day. One result of the affliction was that she had to have cataract surgery when she was 38, rare for someone that young. They messed up the surgery on her left eye, the result being that she cannot see as well as she did prior to the surgery. So take a wild guess as to why she types in all caps. I recognize that this example has nothing to do with anonymity, but I use it as a means of emphasizing the inherent risks associated with internet usage, not the least of which includes stalking.

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Don Bauder Aug. 28, 2013 @ 7:17 a.m.

Duhbya: I give my very best to your wife. Best, Don Bauder

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Duhbya Aug. 28, 2013 @ 8:29 a.m.

The remarkable lady thanks you graciously, as do I.

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sageofsantee Aug. 28, 2013 @ 1:49 p.m.

The lady doth protest too much. Exactly! Oh Don if you only knew........Anyway Don, I agree.... I will bet the Establishment will all fall in line behind Roberts. He looks like a mayor. He's not creepy or bitchy or shrill like DeMaio, and he has a lot more gravitas than Faulconer who is a political lightweight. Goldsmith isn't running. Does anyone like the idea that Jan Goldsmith should start his own political group which he could call the WIg Party. His slogan could be "Gettin' Wiggy with it." The slogan of his opponents could be "Just say no to rugs."

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Yankeedoodle Aug. 28, 2013 @ 2:51 p.m.

Is there really any chance of DeMaio even running for mayor, much less having a chance of winning? Doesn't seem so to me.

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