"I have for many years heard of a legal doctrine called "hostile and flagrant occupancy" which recognizes that if one person is using and/or occupying the property of another for a long time and without trying to hide it, he gains the rights to the property… Stuck has no right to complain, nor to put the fence where those encroachments are located. Is some attorney able to further explore that idea?"
The whole purpose of "Stuck" going to court is to get an impartial decision. They have every right to file a legal complaint and I'm sure their attorney knows that in some instances what they thought was theirs may no longer be theirs after if goes to court.
As for, "Since all the land use issues will be decided in the courts, it's totally gratuitous to harass the local home owners..." the way it gets to the courts is for each side to file complaints on the issues they feel need to be adjudicated. Each side in a dispute has the right to find their own attorneys who are able to further explore" the issues and then present them to a judge or jury to decide who is right.
What I am surprised is that the residents have not yet formed a group to try to buy the golf course, instead of just spending money on legal actions that in the end will not gain them rights to control property which is clearly not theirs, i.e. most of the golf course.
The chain link fence and brown ex-golf course have already had a major impact on property values, but their attorneys probably have not advised them there's little if any precedent in the law for a court to order the golf course reopened, the sprinklers turned back on and the maintenance crews rehired. But, there's less money to be made for the attorneys by advising a sensible course, as opposed to the hourly fees that will accumulate in a long dragged-out court fight to try to gain control of property they don't own and are unwilling to purchase. At the end of the day, the only guaranteed winners are the lawyers.
San Diego County is over-built with golf courses and I suspect this kind of land use issue will crop up elsewhere. In the far eastern part of the county we already have the once notable Rams Hills Golf Course in Borrego Springs sitting brown and decaying.
I don't expect though that residents would try to buy the Stuck property as the vast majority could not even be bothered to become residents of the country club they now feel is essential to their home's value. I don’t blame them, as golf courses have fallen on hard times and closed throughout the country: if the residents tried to borrow money to buy the course, the lenders would advise on why it's a bad investment.
Meanwhile I’m going to retain the homeowner's attorneys. When I look out my window there’s a fabulous vista of an undeveloped hillside. I don't know who owns it, but they should not have the right to build on it since that would harm my view and maybe make my house worth less than it is with a great view.
You think that nights crowd was about the community being fed up? Tell me you aren't serious. It was the teachers as usual showing up every couple of years when their contracts are up ,when the contract is signed they will fade away and the board meetings will be back to the same six losers that always show with threats of ACLU,FBI NSA and a bunch of other innuendo and comical threats that they are hearing through the grapevine.
Realistically if the SEA didn't have complete incompetent representation the language in their agreement would have been concrete. Look at their bargaining over the last eight years .I would argue that a drunk monkey could've negotiated better terms and given away less. I understand Union rule number one is never talk about another brother or member-but come on- the SEA has been a complete embarrassment in terms of contract negotiations
Vol 15 quite intersting reading!
Seems Ms. Elvira Vargas, supervisor at the Registrar of Voters Office, has been 'groomed' by Ms. Quinnones, and perhaps others. She seems almost overly eager to please her friends among the incumbents, without any critical thinking about the fact that it might appear to be inequal treatment of ALL candidates. Did she have all the candidates on 'speed dial' or vice-versa? Again, she seems to be quite naieve about the discrepancy in level and degree of service given to a few of her special friends!
It also appears that when she was promoted and a new guy came into her former job, that that person was not quite so eager, which may have prompted complaints from the Sup and the seated board members.
Elvira should, as Annie J suggests, just DO HER JOB without playing favorites. She is in a sensitive job, and should be far more circumspect.
Not every school district is as unfortunate and as fortunate as Sweetwater. I don't need to explain why the district is unfortunate--but the district is actually extraordinarily fortunate to have so many astute people investigating and following its actions, as well as so many people who do the basic and important work of the district.
The L Street transaction is by no means simple--but stripped down to its simplest components -- it is revealing.
I noted that today's Manchester Mill, aka UT SanDiego, reports that the corruption cases are going to be heard in Chula Vista, not downtown SD. The way it was reported was, in addition to the usual superficiality, that one or more defense attorneys sees that as negative for his clients. I'd figured the exact opposite, in that the juries would be impaneled from local voters, the same brain-dead types who voted them into office in the first place. We shall see. If the defense can claim that they need a change of venue, that would further delay resolution. And the DA seemed surprised, too. One must wonder what's going on.
Just when you think that maybe, just maybe, Brand is trying to do an honest job and be open in his dealings, he clears up any doubt. That is, doubt that he's just hoping to run the district his way, on his timetable, without any scrutiny from the public. Sure, have the meetings in the afternoon and they will be almost sedate, sort of like meetings of a corporate board. No pickets with signs outside, few angry residents wanting to speak, and few there to witness the double-dealing. Oh, and the meetings can end sometime before midnight. But democracy is messy at times, and in some places. One of those times in now, and one of those places is in So San Diego County.
Vote the bums out, all the bums out!
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
Great post !
Where the hell is our beloved Union Tribune and yes the Voice of San Diego recently on this corrupt administration....this Sweetwater Administration is symbolic of why we need the Social Media and "alternative" media like the Reader to get the word out. If it was not for Susan Luzarro what would we do to keep this in the limelight? Wake up UT..pry yourself away from worring about how Obama will bring down Western Civilization and pay attention to your local community and educating students.
One can only hope that with a new board that we get one that realizes that the Superintendent is THEIR employee, not the other way around.
Timtim, I'm neither a union member, teacher, administrator, Bertha, John, Jim, Arlie or Pearl supporter. Just a parent of children in the district and a member of this community who has lived here my entire life and gone to the district schools. There are many issues at this district, too many to discuss here. But, you have to admit that this districts leadership and trustees have been an embarrasment to this community and students. 4 of 5 trustees indicted for criminal actions, prior Supt indicted for the same, current Supt making questionable decisions for non 7-12 items, the list goes on and on. Although the union is not without its faults, the negative publicity and embarrasing actions and decisions are on the part of our board and district leadership. Lets start with correcting that. Once that is in place, we can turn our attention to the Union and any negative impacts they may be having on our schools, children and community.
Woodchuck: you are right, and I will take responsibility for being immature. These are important issues and I need to stay focused on what is important - the students, the employees and our hard earned tax dollars.
Thank You for reminding me of my goal, to help bring about change and return our district to the reputation it once had.
It now may be impossible for SWC to hire an honest, capable president. I mean, who in heck would want to be associated with an operation with the sort of record it has made for itself over the past two decades? If you take the job, you will be forever after associated with and stained with s***. The board can try, try, try to get a CEO with the proper qualities, but ends up settling for someone who will sell his/her reputation for a pile of lucre. The most important step she should have taken, and did not take, was to let everyone know that fat salaries for her cohorts and immediate subordinates would stay frozen until further notice.
I believe it is worth noting that I have requested a copy of the original soil test/s that were performed. My request was forwarded to one of the district's attorneys.
What many are saying is true Mr. Mc Cann is beating the bushes looking for someone stupid enough to run against board member Bertha Lopez. Mr. Cartmill as well has his candidate Mr. Grossman. Now we read that Dr. Brand is backing Mr. Grossman. I have been in the business of politics a very long time and have never seen a group such as this. They refuse to accept the obvious fact that they are no longer respected or trusted.
how is it that our district continues to snub integrity? too late to contact FPPC, but would imagine many of us will be on the phone tomorrow. wondering if anyone bothered to advise Mr. Grossman of any of this - but perhaps we speak too soon, surely Mr. Grossman is not wanting to get into an expensive court battle - perhaps Ms. Grossman will be taking a leave from her position which would alleviate the conflict.
still trying to wrap my mind around the allegations that brand, mccann, and cartmill are out there allegedly trying to talk people into running - i mean who does that? why would we want a cartmill, mccann, or brand clone??????????? leaves me wondering if they are afraid of new blood and the changes that new blood would bring. thinking out loud here, but wasn't just a few months back where the board was told, and agreed, that the makeup of the board needed to reflect the community???????????????? oh, but that is right i forgot, when the expensive consultant then turned to mccann and cartmill and advised them AND you would probably need to go they then decided to scrap that idea. and how much did that cost us????????????
lets fast forward 5 months into the future: board meetings where the public is allowed to speak, board meetings where there is conversation and a sharing of perspectives, board meetings where the financial integrity is not continuously questioned, board meetings where board member lopez is not fighting for the students or taxpayers alone. board meetings where a search for a new superintendent has begun, board meetings where mccann's little red camera or emotional outbursts are no longer 'just the way it is', board meetings where the president of the board does not need to be led by the hand and instructed exactly what to do and when to do it. consistent brown act violations a thing of the past. alleged retaliation against those who dare to speak out no longer part of the agenda YES, that is what we need, new blood -
Just the fact that John, Jim, and Ed are involved in finding people to run for Pearl's seat and the seat of Lopez shows just how unethical they are. I would suggest they keep an eye on their own seats and job and keep their noses out of stuff that shouldn't concern them. Finding candidates is for the public to do, not the old cronies who jusy want to continue with their mismanagement of the public trust.
One wonders how this would have "played out" if a trustee lived in the area. Bonita/East Chula Vista is a "long way" from Hollister Ave.
Surprise, surprise. Bertha Lopez voted against laying off staff. She is a high ranking union member in her district. She seems to be getting a pass on everything.
Why? She is a terrible leader, and an even worse person. She retaliates against those that she doesn't like, and everyone is afraid of her.
Why do nearly all that have worked with her dislike her? Her cronies need to open their eyes
Anniej, very well put. I don't disagree with you one bit. I am very familiar with your passion on this issue. With that being said, most folks won't get involved until they are directly impacted. The rest is just politics, which most people despise. So, open boundaries and an increase by 2% in our mello roos tax are now directly affecting most current students in the eastern part of the district. Now these families are being directly impacted. Now there is a reason to get involved, and during this process all of the other stuff will be seen. Let's just hope it's enough to outrage them as it has some of us.
Ken Harrison 7:48 a.m., Dec. 7
Laura Dvorak 5:47 p.m., Dec. 6
Matt Potter 4:30 p.m., Dec. 6
Ken Harrison 1:30 p.m., Dec. 6
Cesar Esquer Diaz 1 p.m., Dec. 6
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