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The Hillcrest Town Council held a community forum on September 9, with District Three candidates Stephen Whitburn and Todd Gloria fielding questions from members of the community. The two candidates attempted to distinguish themselves and their positions from one another. It was an uphill battle from the beginning.

Both candidates showed up in similar-looking dark suits, the biggest contrast being Whitburn’s campaign button on his left lapel and Gloria’s campaign-inspired purple tie.

“It’s been said that the two of us would probably vote one hundred percent the same, one hundred percent of the time,” said Gloria in his opening remark.

Gloria reminisced about being a third-generation San Diegan, about living on the same street that his mother grew up on, and talked about the changes that have happened within the district over the years and pointed to his eight years’ experience working as a city employee.

“You’ve got to ask yourself who’s going to be ready to lead. Anyone can push a button yes or no, but who’s going to be ready on day one?”

Whitburn disagreed. “I don’t think we would vote the same.” He went on to say he wouldn’t vote for some of the development that his opponent probably would.

He wished he were fortunate enough to be from San Diego, but said his background as a journalist covering different cities around the country has afforded him knowledge of the inner workings and contrasting approaches of city government.

“I’ve done a whole bunch of different things, while my opponent has only served in one office his entire eight years since he’s been out of college.”

Whitburn feels the experience of serving on the North Park Planning Group has shown him the need for thorough inspection of all development coming to the district. He promised, if elected, he would place a 90-day waiting period on all new proposals.

Some of the other questions during the hourlong forum touched on the support from local developers for Gloria, Whitburn’s lack of experience in city politics, and the proposal for a new Chargers stadium on the Tenth Street Marine Terminal.

For more proof that the two candidates aren’t the same person, visit their respective websites at toddgloria.com and stephenwhitburn.com.

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2muchsense Sept. 12, 2008 @ 2:54 p.m.

My one question: Whitburn eeked through the primary largely due to nearly $100,000 in funding provided by himself. How does a public relations staffer for a non-profit pour that kind of money into a campaign? Where did that money come from? Did someone give money to Whitburn to give to his campaign?

Like many candidates have to release their income tax statements, I would like Stephen Whitburn to tell the truth and divulge where he got that money to fund his campaign.

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historymatters Sept. 13, 2008 @ 1:44 p.m.

With all due respect, the 2 candidates are as far apart as they could possibly be. Gloria is trying to say that they would vote the same, because he wants people to think he will vote w/ Whitburn for the people and not the developers. The fact is, if Gloria CAN stand up to developers, why didn't he? He isn't even in office and he already voted FOR the Kensington shopping mall project which mowed over a historic home and was strongly opposed by residents because it would destroy the scale of the neighborhood. He voted for and supported at Councilmtg proposition C which was created and funded by the building industry to give the mayor unchecked powers w/ his money.

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historymatters Sept. 13, 2008 @ 1:49 p.m.

One of Todd's bragging points at the meeting was his accounting skills. He contended the SEDC scandal wouldn't have slipped by him, and yet he voted for prop C which even independent auditors strongly warned council at the mtg "Dont do this. There is no precedent and its going to get you in trouble". It gives the mayor the power to conduct all his finances in secret. Its also the same sort of thing that created the SEDC scandal. Additionally, VOSD just did a story on how Todd is in trouble for soliciting money from Nancy Graham on CCDC. He said it was a simple mistake but com'on even if it was, someone w/ good accounting eyes would let that slip through the cracks.

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2muchsense Sept. 15, 2008 @ 10:16 a.m.

Todd Gloria has served our community longer than Stephen Whitburn has lived in San Diego. Gloria's family has lived in District 3 for 3 generations.

Whitburn is from back East and funding his campaign with a private trust fund.

I'd rather have home-grown Todd Gloria representing me than carpetbagger Stephen Whitburn.

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Fred Williams Sept. 15, 2008 @ 10:43 a.m.

"2muchsense", like most Gloria supporters, is an anonymous coward. Stephen Whitburn's supporters aren't afraid to use their real names. But it's secretive insiders who are rooting for rent boy Gloria. Here's why:

  1. Gloria is in the pocket of developers. He even took illegal contributions from disgraced CCDC head Nancy Graham. It's all public record. Whitburn has been forced to tap out his own savings to attempt to match Gloria's big-money backers.

  2. Gloria has done NOTHING on the Housing Commission. He spends our money, but I defy anyone to show me where it has gone. Whitburn is demanding open and independent audits of all of these shady agencies. Gloria is part of the cover-up.

  3. Gloria takes contributions from "Papa" Manchester's cronies. While claiming to be for equality for all, Gloria shamelessly takes dirty cash from the same bigots funding Proposition 8.

  4. Todd Gloria already betrayed Donna Frye. He's already sold his vote on the council to the Labor Council, just to get their campaign endorsement. Stephen Whitburn stood up and told San Diego what happened behind closed doors, and the voters are outraged. Gloria's sell-out to the labor bosses is disgusting.

  5. Stephen Whitburn is endorsed by the Sierra Club, the Democratic Party, and progressive Council Member Donna Frye. Gloria, although he allegedly works for an incumbent congresswoman, was rejected by his own party. Only the insider labor union bosses are backing him, along with the developers who have been robbing San Diego blind.

No wonder Gloria's supporters are ashamed to use their real names.

Win or lose, Whitburn can hold his head high. He tells the truth and stands up for San Diego.

Vote for Stephen Whitburn.

Best,

Fred Williams Normal Heights

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Stephen_Davis_from_South_Park Sept. 15, 2008 @ 11:52 a.m.

"Fred Williams" like most Whitburn supports, uses smoke and mirrors and non-sequiters to make his weak arguments. Here are the facts:

  1. Gloria has financed his campaign with thousands of small, individual contributions.

1.5 Whitburn has greased his campaign with over $100,000 from a private trust. Where did he get that money? Why won't he disclose it? He earns about $55K doing public relations for a non-profit and doesn't own a home in our community. Who's giving him money so he can fund his campaign?

  1. Gloria has worked for our community for over a decade.

2.5 Whitburn has lived in San Diego County for less time than Gloria has been serving our community.

  1. Gloria has fought for housing for low-income San Diegans.

3.5 Whitburn has been a disc-jockey and done nothing.

  1. Gloria and Whitburn both have labor endorsements. Gloria was recently selected to be the best candidate for working families because of his ability to solve problems.

4.5 Whitburn is divisive and a weak leader. That's why he lost the endorsement.

  1. Gloria is endorsed by San Diego City Firefighters, Police Officers and the Leage of Conservation Voters. Win or lose, Gloria can be proud of a BROAD base of support.

Vote for Todd Gloria.

Truly,

Stephen Davis South Park

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Fred Williams Sept. 15, 2008 @ 12:50 p.m.

Thank you Mr. Davis for using your real name. I'll respond point by point to your allegations:

  1. Gloria finances his campaign with the help of disgraced CCDC head Nancy Graham, CCDC Board Chairman Fred Maas, and other well-connected individuals now facing corruption probes downtown.

1.5 Whitburn has been forced to dip into his life savings to help make up the difference. The insiders, led by folks like indicted firefighters union boss Ron Saathoff are expected to dump a huge sum just before the election, and Stephen Whitburn is backing up the courage of his convictions with his own money.

  1. Gloria is a political staffer with no real world experience. Other than working as a political hack, he has held no job in San Diego or anywhere else. His lifelong ambition is to be elected, not to serve the public.

2.5 In just seven years Stephen has served as the Red Cross spokesman and Chair of the San Diego Democratic Club. Because he's an outsider, he can clearly see the corruption in San Diego that rewards political staffers with cushy back-scratching jobs.

  1. An example of Gloria's pay-offs is his appointment to the do-nothing Housing Commission. Where is the affordable housing? Can you name even one example? He's spent millions in taxpayer money to absolutely no effect, and now he's resisting an independent audit to find out where that money disappeared. Whitburn is standing up and demanding independent audits for all these agencies that have become mired in corruption and scandal.

3.5 Whitburn is an award winning investigative journalist. He uncovers the truth. Gloria is a political hack...he covers up the truth, like his secret deal with the union bosses to betray Donna Frye.

  1. Gloria got the Labor Council endorsement because he promised to betray Donna Frye. That's a fact. It's well-documented. You cannot deny it. Meanwhile, the council's members are abandoning ship over this back-room deal and breaking ranks to publicly endorse Whitburn.

4.5 Whitburn is a courageous truth-teller, and that's why the Labor Council insiders turned on him. He won't keep secrets from the public...that's leadership.

  1. Gloria is being pushed by the self-interested union bosses...NOT the rank and file.

All you have to do is look at who's endorsing Gloria. It's the same folks who have been milking San Diego dry for the last decade.

  • Donna Frye endorses Stephen Whitburn.

  • The Democratic Party endorses Stephen Whitburn.

  • The Sierra Club endorses Stephen Whitburn.

Everyone who wants to change San Diego is behind Whitburn, while the ones who want to continue the corrupt status quo are pouring money into the Gloria camp.

It's an easy choice to make...Stephen Whitburn for City Council.

Best,

Fred Williams Normal Heights

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jerome Sept. 15, 2008 @ 5:38 p.m.

i have one thing to say to GLORIA GOODBYE AND GOOD RIDANCE! i have much to say to the voters in district three but i will just keep it simple and say "BE VERY VIGELANT"

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historymatters Sept. 16, 2008 @ 10:30 p.m.

"Whitburn is divisive and a weak leader. That's why he lost the endorsement"

Is that why he received the endorsement from his own party as well as the Sierra Club, because he is weak and divisive. I don't think Donna is into weak and divisive. I think she is into honest and sincere. Com'on the unions have about as much credibility as Wall Street right now--they use the same leadership model...divide, deceive, destroy.

As far as Glorias "small contributions"...please!!! So small that the Reader wrote an article called "The Dollar Flows" about his enormous defense contractor contributions and so small that channel 10 did a story called "Baldwin Brothers Pay Big When It Comes to Politics". You dont have a leg to stand on w/ these arguments.

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historymatters Sept. 17, 2008 @ 7:18 p.m.

To Stephen Davis, If Todd fought so hard for affordable housing why didnt he fight to get rid of the "in lieu of" fees that developers pay to get out of providing affordable housing. This way there is an endless cycle. Developers cry that we need to provide affordable housing so they can get projects approved, then pay a fee so they dont have to actually provide it so we get "tons" of affordable housing projects w/o ANY affordable housing. And Todd's enormous project on Florida st---did he have to mow over an entire street of craftsmans? I mean there are a million blocks of Huffmans that we would love to see mowed over.

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Fred Williams Oct. 23, 2008 @ 11:37 a.m.

After doing a bit of research at the Registrar of Voters, I found that there is no "Stephen_Davis_of_South_Park" registered to vote in District 3.

If I could see the originating IP address of Todd Gloria, "District 3 Resident" and "Stephen_Davis_of_South_Park", I bet they'd all be the same.

Yep, Todd Gloria, already a shameless tool of the downtown crowd who have bankrupted San Diego, is also the kind of candidate who is too cowardly to stand up and use his own name when smearing his opponent.

Vote for Stephen Whitburn. He isn't afraid to stand up for our neighborhoods and he doesn't take dirty money from developers.

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JulieParrots Nov. 1, 2008 @ 12:39 a.m.

well, well, well... Looks like someone got caught fumbling around by posting fake alias'. Not too worry though, the voters who have been following this story know what is really going on and will vote for a REAL and HONEST man to bring the change and growth this city deserves.

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Stephen_Davis_from_South_Park Oct. 31, 2008 @ 10:58 a.m.

Fred,

I now believe you're a good soul and care about our community, rather than serving as Whitburn's mouthpiece. Truly, I mean that.

But there's a huge difference between good guys like you and Todd Gloria compared to Stephen Whitburn.

See, both you and Gloria have good hearts and a long history of service in our neighborhoods.

Stephen Whitburn is not the same. The CityBeat says Whitburn, "came to San Diego six years ago in search of a career in politics." Coupled with the fact that Whitburn has dumped over $240,000 of his own, unaccounted for campaign cash into his coffers, would lead anyone to the logical conclusion that Whitburn is a carpetbagging political opportunist trying to buy the 3rd Council District seat.

I hope that when the dust has settled and Todd Gloria is doing a great job on City Council, that you and he will be able to partner together to improve all of our quality of life.

Best,

Stephen Davis

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Fred Williams Oct. 31, 2008 @ 11:13 a.m.

Stephen "Fake Name" Davis, thank you for your kindness.

But you're still telling blatant and obvious lies.

You're now exaggerating the amount of Whitburn's contributions to his OWN campaign, and you are ignoring the plain fact that Todd Gloria is beholden to the developers, lobbyists, and special interests.

I don't believe Gloria can possibly do a good job under these circumstances. On the contrary, when he sends out people like you to use fake names including "Stephen Davis", AND "2muchsense", AND "kensington", AND "district3resident", AND post by hijacking MY OWN name, I know that he's a scumbag politician who will do ANYTHING to get power. Gloria's a sell-out, and it's disgusting.

That's why I'm working as hard as I can to ensure this dishonest baby politician doesn't get into office.

Your slanders and lies may work. That's the worst of it. You'll pat yourself on the back about how clever you were to fool so many people.

But San Diego is still near bankruptcy, and you are part of the problem...NOT the solution.

See you at Golden Hall. Let's see if you have the guts to walk up to me and speak face to face. If so, you better show me some identification, because you aren't in the voter rolls.

Best,

Fred

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Stephen_Davis_from_South_Park Oct. 31, 2008 @ 11:39 a.m.

Fred,

I'm glad that you and I agree that our city finances are in shambles and need repair.

That's another reason to support Todd Gloria. Todd currently oversees an annual budget of $265 million as a Housing Commissioner and serves on the Commission's audit committee.

Contrarily, Stephen Whitburn has no experience. At a Hillcrest Town Council Debate on September 9th, Whitburn stated "I'm going to have to turn to somebody else for financial advice" as City Counicl member.

Come to think of it, you and I agree on most of the issues. Dig a little deeper and you'll find that Todd Gloria is clearly the best man for the job.

Truly,

Stephen Davis

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Russ Lewis Oct. 31, 2008 @ 10:44 p.m.

Fumbler, do us all a favor and enroll in remedial English. Seriously.

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Fred Williams Oct. 31, 2008 @ 1:30 p.m.

Why are you still hiding behind an alias, Todd?

The Housing Commission has done NOTHING to alleviate the affordable housing gap in San Diego.

On the contrary, it was identified as being at "high risk for fraud" by the Independent Auditor.

That's because it's run by political hacks like Gloria, who did nothing to earn the job but was appointed there by his insider friends.

Again, we cannot trust Todd Gloria, just as we cannot trust you, Stephen "I Don't Exist" Davis, who also has been lately using my own user name here on the Reader to post slanders about Stephen Whitburn.

However smug you may be about spreading your lies, your attempts to deceive won't work.

Fred Williams Normal Heights

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Stephen_Davis_from_South_Park Oct. 31, 2008 @ 3:37 p.m.

The CityBeat says Whitburn, "came to San Diego six years ago in search of a career in politics."

Coupled with the fact that Whitburn has dumped over $240,000 of his own, unaccounted for campaign cash into his coffers, would lead anyone to the logical conclusion that Whitburn is a carpetbagging political opportunist trying to buy the 3rd Council District seat.

Let's move forward with DEMOCRAT Todd Gloria on City Council.

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Fred Williams Oct. 31, 2008 @ 4:46 p.m.

Why do you copy/paste your comments, Todd, masquerading as Stephen?

Can't you write anything original, or is this yet another Halloween trick on the voters?

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Fred Williams Oct. 31, 2008 @ 4:52 p.m.

There is no Stephen Davis in South Park, but there is a Todd Gloria desperate to pull any trick to get into public office.

That's why intelligent and well educated adults prefer Stephen Whitburn.

The attempt to distract voters away from Gloria's many debts to the insiders downtown won't work, no matter how many pseudonyms Gloria will use to try to fool people.

Whether written by 2muchsense, kensington, or district3voter, or Stephen Davis of South Park, it's all bull****.

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Fred Williams Oct. 31, 2008 @ 5:07 p.m.

Hah! Look at this link:

http://www.sdcitybeat.com/cms/story/detail/telling_them_apart/7447/#comments

The poster logged in as "2muchsense" signed his post as "Stephen Davis". (Scroll down, it's a comment addressed directly to me.)

Need more proof..??

This pseudonymous guy won't be getting a job downtown if his boss wins. He can't even keep track of all his lies...

Vote for Stephen Whitburn, please, if you want a better San Diego City Council.

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Fred Williams Nov. 2, 2008 @ 6:31 a.m.

Oh! That guy who owns the furniture stores? I've seen him on television.

But Fumber, you must try to be kind. Not everyone is as brilliant as you. Take a moment to think how you may have hurt poor Jerome's feelings...he might do something desperate, like putting recliners on sale and offering no payments for 12 months.

You don't want that on your conscience, my good friend. Last time Jerome was feeling blue, he bought a whole warehouse full of mattresses, but forgot to get the box springs, resulting in a horrible scene at the Miramar store.

Remember that? 42 people were injured from that incident alone, and Jerome ended up drinking heavily, spilling his beer all over the sleeper sofas. If those oak dining sets hadn't arrived soon after, who knows what sort of tragedy we might have seen.

No, Fumber, you better take that back about Jerome...if not for him, then for San Diego's sake.

Your friend,

Fred

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jerome July 8, 2009 @ 3:43 p.m.

thanks FRED i'm getting my drinking under control>>heh heh.

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