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The 4th of July is quickly approaching and the San Diego Police Department is treating Pacific Beach as Ground Zero. Lt. David Nisleit spoke to the Pacific Beach Town Council, on the 18th of June, about the upcoming preparations for the Independence Day festivities.

Police department staffing will begin to increase on the 3rd and DUI checkpoints will be out that night somewhere in the vicinity of Grand and Garnett entertainment districts.

SDPD will use De Anza Cove as the location for the unified command post for the entire three-day weekend.

For the 4th, all divisions will be on duty, including several motor and K-9 squads, equestrian division, helicopters and at least 2 boats patrolling the bay.

"I am confident that staffing will not be an issue," said Lt. Nisleit to town council members.

The residents of Pacific Beach were still concerned.

"The perception from most residents is that since drinking on the beach is illegal, everyone will now go to the bay. I can see there are a handful of boats out with people drinking. The police department's two boats will be able to handle it, but if there are a hundred boats you're not going to be able to control the situation with two boats," said one resident in the audience.

Lt. Nisleit understood his concern, "Unfortunately, the San Diego Police Department only has three boats total, and one of those is having mechanical issues, but we are well aware of the situation, along with the Coast Guard and with help from other agencies we will do our best to handle the situation."

Another resident asked about loud, amplified music on the boardwalk.

"We will be patrolling and if there are any disturbances to the public, at any time, we will act, though, please keep in mind it will be a busy weekend and we'll have our hands full," responded Lt. Nisleit.

Visit sandiego.gov/police and the pbtowncouncil.org websites for more details.

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VinnyPaesano June 19, 2008 @ 3:24 p.m.

You mean that the PBTC is still spending all their time trying to stop alcohol from destroying the world? All my friends have let their memberships expire because it's been taken over by a bunch of people who are just trying to run "youngsters" out of town. I'd rather spend my $20 membership fee on a ticket to a StayClassy event. They truly HELP the community.

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rshimizu12 June 19, 2008 @ 4:56 p.m.

The weekend crowds have been fairly sparse in PB. Memorial Day was fairly slow as well. I just hope the cops don't insist on bringing out the horse patrols again. A few years back they brought the horses on the beach and they pooped all over and really stank up the beach.

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VinnyPaesano June 19, 2008 @ 5:11 p.m.

Now the wealthy busybodies have exactly what they'd wanted all along: a beach with no people on it for their personal enjoyment. Crime will be down just because nobody is at the beach anymore. You know what other place has great sand and no crime? Planet Mars. Nobody is there, so crime is non-existent.

The beaches are public recreation areas. What is this city coming to when it is goaded into taking steps so people won't go to its public recreation areas?

San Diego is now just another white-bread community like all those corners of LA. Why come here now? There's nothing special about our beach communities that LA doesn't offer x3.

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hotwingsandcornbread June 19, 2008 @ 5:56 p.m.

I think the police should spend all that overtime money on a graffiti detail. Who cares about a bunch of crazy a-s whiteboys getting s--t faced and beating each other up. Go after the idiots who are tagging this city.

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LAL June 19, 2008 @ 8:37 p.m.

The SDPD should set up 5-6 command posts in PB, MB and OB in the neighborhoods because there are going to be so many house parties that they are not going to be able to control the local beach neighborhoods.

The trial alcohol ban has moved the taxpaying citizens who want to enjoy a BBQ and Beer at our beaches, bays and parks into their houses and backyards! What a joke. Celebrating Independence Day is a about FREEDOM this new law is as far from freedom as we can get. Wake up San Diego~ we need to tell our local City Council this trial ban is not what the majority of us want. Write a quick letter and tell them what you think...This ban is wrong! http://www.sandiego.gov/citycouncil/

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lovetheboozeban June 20, 2008 @ 7:05 a.m.

The booze ban is the greatest thing to ever happen to SD beaches.....Finally getting rid of the punks who dont know how to have drinks and act normal...They think getting drunk and acting like idiots is cool...What a hoax....GOD BLESS THE BOOZE BAN!!! No more posers ruining my beaches!!!

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poff June 20, 2008 @ 10:16 a.m.

If we ban driving there won't be any car accidents! They should have stiffer penalties for idiots, not ban alcohol for everyone.

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FreePB June 20, 2008 @ 10:36 a.m.

The ban isn't going to stop people from drinking. Instead of having a concentration of people on the beach they will be at house parties spread throughout the beach communities. There aren’t enough cops to enforce the beach as well as these parties and people causing trouble are going to be much harder to contain and control. The 4th of July is going to be a disaster because of the alcohol ban.

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VinnyPaesano June 20, 2008 @ 12:10 p.m.

There you go again, lovetheboozeban. Which part of the beach do you own? That's great. Who did you go through to get the title for that? I want some of it too.

Now instead of them partying on your beach, they'll be partying at your neighbors' houses on both sides of your mansion. Do you think the cops would rather stroll the beaches or charge into private residences to crack down on the punks you speak of? Ask the Chief of Police what he thinks about that and he'll tell you the truth. He's NOT nearsighted.

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anony_mous June 20, 2008 @ 12:40 p.m.

5: "The trial alcohol ban has moved the taxpaying citizens who want to enjoy a BBQ and Beer at our beaches, bays and parks into their houses and backyards! What a joke."

So what's wrong with partying at your own house or in your own yard. If you spend all day enjoying BBQ and Beer at the beach, then chances are you're too intoxicated to drive home from the beach. I live 2 blocks from the beach, and while I would enjoy a few beers around a fire pit at sundown, I can walk home not drive home. And I have no problem having the bbq in my yard instead of the at the beach. But FREEPB is predicting anarchy in the streets of PB on the Fourth. I can already see the hoardes of drunks running thru the streets wreaking havock, demanding their freedom to get drunk in public, leaving a path of distruction in their wake. And I'm sure VinnyPaesano will be along for the ride.

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PBresident June 20, 2008 @ 9:50 p.m.

everyone is a suspect...especially you paesan. If you are not doing anything wrong, you have noting to worry about. I had my cooler checked last weekend and I was more than happy to show them.

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PBresident June 20, 2008 @ 2:42 p.m.

the beaches are empty this summer as compared to last...the Bars however, are packed during the day, more so than last year. The only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that the activity most desired is drinking. That is precicely why the ban needs to stay in place. If having a beer while enjoying the beach was the real story, the beach would be just as crowded, just with out alcohol. It is clear that the ban is working exactly as planned, to remove the people who just went there to drink. For those that now stay away from the beach because you can not drink, drinking is their first priority and it is spectacular that they no longer dominate the beach in PB.

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VinnyPaesano June 20, 2008 @ 8:58 p.m.

Or maybe people don't like to hang out at a beach where the cops stick their noses into your sodas every day because everyone is a suspect. Who knows what kind of stuff is tangled up in those guys' mustaches.

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elizabethzski June 21, 2008 @ 9:10 a.m.

I, for one, am happy about the ban. When it comes down to it, the cost for the mess that is caused by drinking and cleaning up the beaches comes out of the taxpayers pockets. When visitors can instead hang out at the bar and drink, patronizing and helping our local businesses thrive... well, I just think it's a great idea all around. As a local renter & working girl/student, I love knowing that when I go to the beach there won't be puke, beer cans, urine, and cigarette butts in the sand and on the boardwalk when I walk, bike, run, or layout. Tourists and locals alike don't always respect the space, serenity, and cleanliness of our beaches, hence the beer ban. Thank you to all those who have worked to enact the ban, it's been nicer here as a result.

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barackobama007 June 22, 2008 @ 7:35 a.m.

cmon vinny..you abuse freedom,if as an adult you cant act responsibly then you need someone to put you in check..the past has shown us here in san diego that thousands of young people drinking from beer bongs to excess do not act responsibly..so we the responsible minority finally won a victory over the idiot majority who abuse this freedom.if you ever had a sober day at the beach with your kids you would know what im talking about.thank you san diego for being realistic..

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lovetheboozeban June 22, 2008 @ 8:05 a.m.

Vinny is a joke and a hoax!!! He is reinforcing every reason why we LOVE THE BOOZE BAN!!!

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Testudo15 June 22, 2008 @ 3:39 p.m.

As a resident that has lived in the beach community long enough to enjoy both the young social lifestyle and the married with children lifestyle, I believe the city is making a huge mistake with the ban. Although it does have some benefits they are not worth the negative impacts to our residents. One suggestion that has been proposed and may be the most effective compromise is an alcohol ban on major holidays. Many locals avoid the beaches due to the crowds anyway. I know people would still miss those massive parties on the bay on the 4th, but I also know they would rather be able to enjoy a drink on the beach the rest of the year. Laws like these do not promote individual responsibility and only relocate the problem. Let’s address the problem in a reasonable manner and not continue this absurd overreaction.

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lovetheboozeban June 23, 2008 @ 8:17 a.m.

WE LOVE THE BOOZE BAN!!! DRUNK PUNKS OUT OF PB.

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SD_LADY June 23, 2008 @ 9:47 a.m.

WOW! REALLY PEOPLE? THIS BAN IS A JOKE 364 DAYS OF THE YEAR THE BEACHES ARE FINE. IF PEOPLE WANT TO GET DRUNK THEY WILL AND BELIEVE ME THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GET WASTED AND CAUSE PROBLEMS WILL GET WASTED AND CAUSE PROBLEMS THERE ARE PLENTY OF BARS ALL ALONG THE BEACH AND UNDERAGE KIDS CAN GET ALCOHOL ALMOST EASIER THAN SOMEONE STANDING AT A PACKED BAR. I AGREE WITH WHOEVER SAID INCRESE THE PENALITIES FOR BAD BEHAVIOR RATHER THAN "BAN" ALL ALCOHOL. THE TROUBLE MAKERS ARE GOING TO BE TROUBLE MAKERS NO MATTER WHAT. THE DRUNKS WILL FIND A WAY TO GET DRUNK AND WANDER OVER TO THE BEACH. THIS BAN REALLY DIDNT DO MUCH EXCEPT GIVE THE POLICE MORE WORK TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM DRINKING WHEN THEY COULD BE ACTUALLY TAKING CARE OF THE REAL PROBLEM THE NOT SO SMART PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY CAN MOVE IN ANC CHANGE EVERYTHING WHO MOVE TO A BEACH COMMUNITY AND EXPECT 100% PEACE AND QUIET 24/7 COME ON GET REAL YOU CANT BE THAT STUPID TO MOVE TO A BEACH COMMUNITY WHEN THERE ARE 3 BARS PER BLOCK AND EXPECT A QUIET PEACFUL NEIGHBORHOOD GO BACK TO ARIZONA

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Ponzi June 23, 2008 @ 10:29 a.m.

What other beaches in the State of California permit alcohol on the beaches? Just curious. I don't think any beaches in L.A. permit alcohol. So why is it expected that San Diego should be the booze beaches?

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lovetheboozeban June 23, 2008 @ 11:21 a.m.

SDLADY IS A HOAX!!!! WE LOVETHEBOOZEBAN!!! ALL DRUNKS OUT OF PB!! HAS ANYONE NOTICED HOW NICE IT IS AT THE BEACH NOW WITHOUT ALL THE DRUNK PUNKS ACTING LIKE FOOLS AND THINKING THEY ARE COOL!!! ALL DRUNK PUNKS OUT OF PB AND AWAY FROM MY MANSION!!! LOVETHEBOOZEBAN

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Russ Lewis June 23, 2008 @ 11:45 a.m.

Ponzi, some people don't want to admit that alcohol is a controlled substance. Like it or not, there are restrictions on where you can and can't use it. You can't drink in your car, you can't drink at school, and you can't drink in the park, but somehow drinking at the beach is an inalienable, God-given right.

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sddoug June 23, 2008 @ 12:52 p.m.

PBresident, you are an idiot for letting a cop look in your cooler.

No cop will be looking in my cooler without a warrant, nor will they be smelling my drink without proper probable cause.

I'll be down there with red plastic cups, a cooler,a video camera and a notebook to write down the badge numbers of police who try take away my constitutional rights.

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M. E. June 23, 2008 @ 1 p.m.

lovetheboozeban has used the word "hoax" three times here, not once correctly. I suspect she is drinking.

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Ponzi June 24, 2008 @ 9:48 a.m.

I guess Silver Strand State Beach in Coronado is the only place remaining in San Diego that permits alcohol on the beach. Let's see how long that lasts before a bunch of drinks messes that up this summer.

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Nicolek July 8, 2008 @ 11:33 a.m.

So you ban lovers think it is worth loosing hundreds of thousands of tourist dollars to have your empty boring beaches? The booze ban should be lifted but with some restrictions. Post heavy fines ($1,000) for people who trash the beach, act up, or are underage, and post BIG signs everywhere so people know. Ban the binge drinking like beer bongs and kegs that promote heavy drinking. I am a 32 year old professional whom is a responsible drinker and used to enjoy heading to the beach for a couple drinks and then dinner out at a local restaurant. Since the ban I havent even bothered to go to the beach once. Everyone I know feels the same. We used to have friends and family come in from all over the country for the 4th to gather and spend the day at Mission bay. But we are all drinkers so this is the first year that our usual guests decided not to come to San Diego. I will bet there were thousands of people that decided NOT to come to San Diego this year because there is nothing special about our beaches anymore. Having the privilage to enjoy a beautiful day at the beach with a beer in hand is one of the things that drew me to San Diego in the first place years ago. What a shame we can't find a happy medium!

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lovetheboozeban Nov. 25, 2008 @ 2:30 p.m.

THE BOOZE BAN WINS AT THE BALLOT BOX....THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN....NORMAL CITIZENS WIN....BEACH PUNKS LOSE...JUST LIKE SETH CRAVENS!!!

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