Third, the takeoff paths are fan shaped, that is, some take off straight on, others bank some left or right, others bank more left or right. It makes a difference.
Fourth, the landing path is always the same. When planes land from the west, every single one of them flies directly over my house.
Fifth, we don’t want our windows and doors “soundproofed.” We live here because we like them open, because we like to be outside, gardening, having a happy hour on the front porch, grilling on the back patio, etc. We want the noise stopped, period, instead of being trapped in a box.
Sixth, no one ever mentions the incredible spray of exhaust emitted every time a plane lands or takes off.
And seventh, and finally, things have improved some over the years (I’ve lived in OB/Point Loma since ’76), but we still get what I call “brain-rattlers” every single day.
But American-capitalist kowtowing to business will ensure that we will always have to put up with its consequent noise and pollution.
Shut Up Or Move
They don’t know how good they have it (“Life Under the Flight Path,” Feature Story, August 21).
I grew up at the corner of Curtis and Plum streets in Loma Portal from 1945 to 1966. The noise from aircraft landing and taking off then was incredibly louder and of longer duration than it is today. The newest, stage-three aircraft are quiet compared to the B-36s, Electra Jets, and 737s that routinely roared overhead night and day — no curfew except the fog. My parents would not have dreamed of suing the airport or expecting soundproofing.
There was a daily 4:00 a.m. Delta arrival, and my mom would wake up when it was foggy and the plane did not arrive.
For anyone to voluntarily move into the Lindbergh flight pattern and then complain about it, much less have us pay $100,000 to upgrade their home, is the very height of hypocrisy!
The only person I ever knew who had a legitimate gripe with aircraft noise was Mr. Roulette, our next-door neighbor for many years. He built his home and lived in it well prior to Lindbergh Field’s opening.
All the others should shut up or move and give me back my portion of that $100,000.
Scott Mac Laggan
Noisy Hick Town
Your article (“Life Under the Flight Path,” Feature Story, August 21) contains quotes from several people who live in the flight takeoff pattern, and they pretty much say that they get used to it after a while, and in sum, the story wholly did not represent the views of others who are greatly disturbed by the noise — it’s noise plain and simple — day in, day out, until 11:30 p.m., starting (this morning, for instance) at 4:51 a.m.
I live in the no-curfew incoming path — in the South Park area. These planes arrive every 1.5 or 2 minutes — for hours. I would love to enjoy watching a movie on TV on a Sunday evening with a window open and the breeze coming in. But I have to shut the window, and if watching TV, every frickin’ time a plane goes over, the picture shakes (because I don’t have cable, because TV is pretty worthless).
I was sick a couple of weeks ago, went to bed at 8:30, needed to sleep. The planes were so annoying, listening to them, one after another, for hours — I kept watching the clock. Would they stop at 10:30 p.m.? 11:00 p.m.? Finally, about 11:30 p.m. they stopped. It makes you angry to feel that you have no control over the situation, and people should not have to live with constant noise. I spent $4000 on double-paned windows to keep out the noise — kind of makes you wonder why $70,000 to $100,000 must be spent on homes in the Quieter Home Program — and it helps somewhat. Thirty years ago when I moved into the house, the noise wasn’t as bad as it is now, and just last night I heard Herb Klein talk about how another 12 gates will be developed at the airport.
Millions and millions of dollars are spent on planning and committees and studies — the number of aircraft landings and departures continues to increase — thus, the noise increases. No relief in sight. But let’s form some more committees and measure it. Has anyone done a study on the effects of noise on people so affected by sleep interruption and deprivation because of these planes? There are nuisance laws — noise is a nuisance — why don’t they acknowledge that in legal terms? Build a small airport in Otay Mesa for the FedEx carriers, put Terminal 2 planes in Miramar, put commuter planes in an expanded Gillespie Field. And, of course, establish an incoming flight curfew — that would all help and could be effected reasonably economically. San Diego is, and always will be, a hick town — we don’t need international flights coming into our town, just very convenient, cheap shuttles to LAX (also lacking in this hick town). By the way, I’m a native San Diegan and spent elementary school under the flight path. I know what I’m talking about. The upshot is, no — some of us never get used to the noise, and it is a problem.
Complaint About A Complainer
I’m responding to an article in the August 14 edition. On the front page it says “Large Loud Parties Coming Soon to Your Neighborhood” (Cover Story). The gentleman who wrote this article interviewed a person by the name of Zonna Pennell, and she’s complaining about her next-door neighbors because it’s a vacation home rental. If you go on vacationrentals.com, click on “California,” come down to the “Pacific Beach” area, about halfway down — there are 31 properties listed, and she’s been advertising on there for the last number of years. It’s a cottage, two bedroom, one bath, sleeps four people, $1250 to $1950 per week, “Adorable Beach Cottages by Zonna.” Click on that and it will bring up a description of the property and will show the cottages, one of the cottage’s exterior, the interior, and there are at least six pictures. She’s been advertising on this website for a number of years.