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Sheriff Bill Gore has been talking up his plans for high-tech intelligence-driven crime fighting, but he's also quietly hedging his bets by looking to acquire some heavy shooting iron.

The sheriff just hired Dr. Noah Fritz to be the department's crime analysis manager. According to his public LinkedIn profile, Fritz, assistant professor at Denver's Metropolitan State College from August 2006 until this May, got a PhD in Justice Studies and Social Inquiry from Arizona State University in 2006 and is a member of the International Associates of Crime Analysts.

(Fritz's interests include Crime and Intelligence Analysis, Golfing, Hiking, Camping, Biking, and is a Beer Connoisseur, according to his profile, which we've linked to below:)

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/noah-fritz/32/aa9/201

Meanwhile, the department has put out a "request for quotation" on six 40MM Single Launchers equipped with EOTech 512 sighting devices from Defense Technology, an arms maker based in Casper, Wyoming.

"The 40MM launcher can fire all Defense Technology/Federal Laboratories 40MM rounds," according to specifications on Defense Technology's website. "It incorporates an aluminum rifled barrel that comes equipped with a weaver scope mounting rail and a removable post sight. A padded nylon sling is included.

"WARNING: This product is to be used only by authorized and trained Law Enforcement, Correction, or Military Personnel. This product may cause serious injury or death to you or others. This product may cause serious damage to property. Handle, store and use with extreme care and caution. Use only as instructed."

The county also wants a quote on 414 rounds of 40MM projectiles, part number 6325, "brand name only, no substitutions allowed," as described on Defense Technology's site:

"The 40MM eXact iMpact Sponge round is “point of aim, point of impact” direct fire rounds that are most commonly used by tactical teams in situations where maximum deliverable energy is desired for the incapacitation of an aggressive, non-compliant subject."

"The 40MM eXact iMpact will prove most successful for incapacitation when used within its optimal energy range of approximately 10-75 feet, although it may be used in situations from 5 to 120 feet."

"The optimal zone offers the necessary energy and accuracy to target the large muscle groups of the buttocks, thigh, and even the knees of the subject.

"These areas provide sufficient pain stimulus, while greatly reducing serious or life threatening injuries. However, the size and weight of this rounds makes it the safest of all choices for engaging the abdomen or upper torso of the subject.

"The eXact iMpact Sponge round can also be deployed in crowd control situations to protect the riot line, cover or enhance chemical munitions, or targeting specific agitators and organizers of the crowd.

When used in this fashion, it is primarily both a psychological deterrent and physiological distraction serving as a pain compliance device to either get the crowd (or subject) moving or keeping them at a designated distance."

Here is the request for quotes from the county:

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/documents/2011/jun/03/sd-county-request-40mm/

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Visduh June 3, 2011 @ 4:32 p.m.

In other words, big, bad-ass rubber bullets. Well, that's better than "lead, you're dead."

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SurfPuppy619 June 3, 2011 @ 9:03 p.m.

Meanwhile, the department has put out a "request for quotation" on six 40MM Single Launchers equipped with EOTech 512 sighting devices from Defense Technology, an arms maker based in Casper, Wyoming.

===================== What a bunch of IDIOTS!

This is what happens when you allow law enforcement to have an educational requirement of just a GED, you get mental morons preparing for a WAR again the citizens.

There is NO legit need for this kind of fire power. None.

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JustWondering June 4, 2011 @ 11:53 p.m.

Pupster your ignorance is showing once again. Our citizens are very capable of crimes, for example, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm1PEY8F4xE the 1997 North Hollywood shootout from a bank robbery gone bad. Or, closer to home, Brenda Spencer, "having a bad Monday" or Shawn Nelson, taking a 45 ton tank out on a test drive. The point is having as many tools as you can for any incident.

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SurfPuppy619 June 5, 2011 @ 2:31 a.m.

The North Hollywood BofA shoot out and the tank incidents are 1 in a million, and one in a million crimes does not mean every GED cop in CA needs this kind of firepower.

We are a society of Americans, not a war zone full of terrorists.

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Dave Stewart June 5, 2011 @ 11:54 a.m.

I think that would be 2 in a million, actually.

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SurfPuppy619 June 5, 2011 @ 5:53 p.m.

No, that would be 2 in 2 million, but in either case there is no need to declare war against your fellow citizens, neighbors or family.

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Dave Stewart June 6, 2011 @ 9:23 a.m.

"The North Hollywood BofA shoot out and the tank incidents are 1 in a million"

No, that would be 2 in a million. Use of the word and links them together,denoting each incident as part of the same catagory/classification. Including the word each, ie BofA shoot out and the tank incidents are EACH 1 in a million, would make it 2 in 2 million. I think Larry Phillips and Matasareanu in Hollywood, and the tank guy in San Diego are the ones who declared war.

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SurfPuppy619 June 6, 2011 @ 11:06 p.m.

No, that would be 2 in a million. Use of the word and links them together,denoting each incident as part of the same catagory/classification

No, they were not linked, they were two seperate and distinct incidents and were presented as such, not as part of the same "catagory/classification".

Keep up junior, you might learn a thing or two.

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Dave Stewart June 7, 2011 @ 9:28 a.m.

No, I'm sorry but you are incorrect, little lady. I am very familiar with each incident and while you may have intended to present them separately, you didn't. The use of the word and in between them joins them together descriptively. Had you added the word each, such as The North Hollywood BofA shoot out and the tank incidents are EACH 1 in a million, then you would have been correct.

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SurfPuppy619 June 7, 2011 @ 6:30 p.m.

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Dave Stewart June 7, 2011 @ 8:13 p.m.

I didn't realize there was a polymath in the house. My apologies Dr. Schweitzer. Obviously though, it's not "big boy stuff". If it was, then you wouldn't be allowed any where in the vicinity.

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SurfPuppy619 June 7, 2011 @ 8:57 p.m.

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Dave Stewart June 7, 2011 @ 10:21 p.m.

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JustWondering June 6, 2011 @ 10:31 p.m.

The Sheriff is ordering six, not 100 not 1000, just six. This means most of the commands will not any as most of the six will be in the SWAT Armory. You know the "Special Weapons" and Tactics team.

No one in Law Enforcement is or has declared war...Nonetheless, there are repeated examples of our fellow citizens committing mass murders. Here's another SD example: The 1984 McDonalds' murders. At the time the WORSE one day massacre in U.S. History. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjpL8H...

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SurfPuppy619 June 7, 2011 @ 6:31 p.m.

Those "repeated" examples are decades apart.

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BradleyFikes June 4, 2011 @ 4:10 p.m.

Typo alert in second graf. Oh, what the loss of an "l" will do . . .

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Visduh June 4, 2011 @ 4:47 p.m.

Very few readers, myself included, would have ever noticed that if you hadn't pointed it out.

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BradleyFikes June 4, 2011 @ 7:17 p.m.

Visduh, as a reporter who's edited stories, those things leap out at me. They appear in the most innocent of places.

In my long-ago college days, one of my journalism teachers said a copy editor has to have a dirty mind. Of course, he was absolutely right.

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Matt Potter June 5, 2011 @ 8:11 a.m.

Fixed. Thanks, Brad.

P.S. Condolences on the Libertarian loss of Richard Rider to the GOP.

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Dave Stewart June 5, 2011 @ 12:04 p.m.

Richard Rider has gone GOP?? I refuse to believe it. Do you have a link to a confirming story, otherwise, I refuse to believe it.

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BradleyFikes June 5, 2011 @ 12:51 p.m.

Matt, thanks for the condolences. I don't think RR has changed his beliefs at all, this is a decision that the GOP is now more effective as a vehicle for advancing Libertarian ideals. Still, it's a loss for us still in the Party of the Porcupine.

belowthesurface, sadly, http://sdrostra.com/?p=16269 it's absolutely true.

The U-T's Diane Bell http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/jun/03/assemblymans-dog-gets-to-sacramento-the-hard-way follows up on the SD Rostra scoop.

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Visduh June 5, 2011 @ 5 p.m.

This weapon is a civilian and updated version of the M-79 grenade launcher that was used extensively in Vietnam by the infantry. At that time it had high explosive rounds, shot rounds (that were supposedly invented to enable the grenadier to clear vegetation out of the way before switching to HE), and even had teargas rounds.

SurfPup, look closely, and you'll see that they are planning to buy them along with sponge rounds that are used at short range to incapacitate. Today the cops use real bullets of lead, copper and other metals that kill or grievously injure the suspect when used at short range. So, as I said above, these things are to shoot big-ass rubber bullets. These pack some firepower, sure, but they're buying soft projectiles that are designed to disable, not kill.

Shooting after shooting by police has occurred locally, and the bereaved and the concerned keep asking, "Why can't they use non-lethal devices to stop these fools?" Well, this suggests they think they have such a non-lethal device. And that's what I take from this.

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SurfPuppy619 June 5, 2011 @ 5:57 p.m.

I certainly agree non-lethal methosds need to be put to better use, and that starts with the use of oral communication.

LE needs to STOP using a para-military method of operation, which may worlk in the military in an armed conflict with a known enemy, but not at home on fellow citizens who are for the most part unarmed.

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Visduh June 5, 2011 @ 8:08 p.m.

That paramilitary method of operation is an outgrowth of many things, not the least of which was the Rambo movies. I marvel when in the UK that their police walk the streets "armed" only with their authority and their odd-looking uniforms such as lime-green and white checkerboard vests. Yes, our law enforcement is just too taken with "Dirty Harry", Rambo, and Buford Pusser (Walking Tall) movies and the ultra-tough guy movies.

On the other hand, I'm not totally convinced that a SD cop or deputy can deal with some of the low-lifes they encounter by opening a conversation with "I say, my dear chap, that you might reconsider that knife you are brandishing. Some other person might feel a bit threatened and resent it. Now, be a good fellow and put the knife aside and come down and chat with us." Sounds most unlikely, doesn't it?

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SurfPuppy619 June 7, 2011 @ 6:32 p.m.

On the other hand, I'm not totally convinced that a SD cop or deputy can deal with some of the low-lifes they encounter by opening a conversation with "I say, my dear chap, that you might reconsider that knife you are brandishing..."

LOL! Good point!

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Twister June 7, 2011 @ 1:28 p.m.

As we sit 'round our bonfire, "Roma" is burning.

Slippery slopesville.

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BusGreg June 7, 2011 @ 8:03 p.m.

Just another toy for over zealous cops to use and brutalize citizens. Just as taseres did not decrease killings by cops they only increased the "torture" arsenal. (for lack of a better term) When I visited SD last year, I was given a citation for illegal parking. The officer made a ton mistakes on the ticket - it got dismissed - and the only thing he got right was the license plate. You really want to give those buffoons another toy to play with???

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Twister June 7, 2011 @ 10:42 p.m.

Bring on the Bobs! Better yet, look at the crime rates in Japan. It's culture, dude, CULTURE!

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BusGreg June 8, 2011 @ 12:50 p.m.

Excellent point! Here is another comparison of Japanese and American culture. Have you heard of looting after the earthquake / tsunami disaster? How about hurricane Katrina?

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Twister June 8, 2011 @ 1:58 p.m.

Giving in the first case; hoarding and taking in the second.

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monaghan June 12, 2011 @ 8:10 p.m.

Oh for god's sake, peace and love. You would think the Sheriff is going to come after you with his new toys. The only other subject that gets this many comments is legalizing grass.

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