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Chula Vista Deputy Mayor Rudy Ramirez says the public's perception that Mexico is unsafe is not supported by real crime statistics. In a July 18 press release, Ramirez reported on a recent meeting with mayors from cities throughout Baja and the Southern California. One of the key topics during the meeting was the false perception that many have in regards to life in Mexico.

"A key topic of discussion was that the perception of the insecurity of the region is not supported by statistics regarding public safety," reads the press release.

At the binational meeting, mayors and elected officials requested that California Governor Jerry Brown enact laws to expedite border crossing.

“Local government officials agreed that the status quo of long border wait times and travel restrictions is no longer acceptable. We must work to ensure border security but not sacrifice efficiency,” stated Ramirez.

One initiative that gained support at the meeting was a law that would require only a valid California drivers license to enter into the United States.

The mayors also supported working together to "promote economic development" and tourism.

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Pancho July 18, 2011 @ 5:59 p.m.

Another one of Rudy's strategies that he hopes will help him run for Mayor of Chula Vista.

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SurfPuppy619 July 18, 2011 @ 10:47 p.m.

Chula Vista Deputy Mayor Rudy Ramirez says the public's perception that Mexico is unsafe is not supported by real crime statistics.

LOL...hje needs ot put the crack pipe donw, the Mexicnsa drug cartels have killed 40K people in TJ and mexico in the last 2 years. They killed a US DEA agent just 2 months ago.

No one is buying the whopper that mexico is safe.

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SurfPuppy619 July 18, 2011 @ 11:08 p.m.

Chula Vista Deputy Mayor Rudy Ramirez says the public's perception that Mexico is unsafe is not supported by real crime statistics.

LOL...Rudy Ramirez needs to put the crack pipe down, the Mexican drug cartels have killed more than 40K people in TJ and Mexico in the last 2 years alone. They killed a US DEA agent just 2 months ago.

No one is buying the whopper that Mexico is safe.

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MURPHYJUNK July 19, 2011 @ 8:11 a.m.

tell Rudy tj is safe, its chula vista we have to worry about

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SurfPuppy619 July 19, 2011 @ 4:33 p.m.

tell Rudy tj is safe, its chula vista we have to worry about

============= :)

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CVeyeonu July 19, 2011 @ 9:31 a.m.

Ramirez is so out of touch and detrimental to that there is a serious effort beginning in eastern CV to RECALL him.

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Pancho July 20, 2011 @ 7:24 p.m.

Really? Do tell. Who's leading this movement and why is it eastern CV?

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margo July 19, 2011 @ 7:12 p.m.

I dont I think that although the Northern part of Mexico is pretty shady right now, it doesnt mean that all of Mexico is unsafe. Im currently staying at Oasis Hostel (oasishostel.com) in Puerto Vallarta and I feel pretty darn safe. I can walk home at night and no one ever bothers me. I think you just need to be smart, unless youre looking for cocain and hookers at 2 in the morning you have nothing to worry about.

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Ken July 20, 2011 @ 2:53 p.m.

Interesting that in all these pithy remarks that no one can dispute the statistics: real crime rates are down, and the situation in Baja is vastly different than in other parts of Mexico.

I live in Baja and have experienced little difference with crime here vs. when living in California. For those who haven't noticed, Tijuana is 1,400 miles away from Juarez.

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SurfPuppy619 July 20, 2011 @ 5:41 p.m.

Interesting that in all these pithy remarks that no one can dispute the statistics: real crime rates are down,

LOL. .......if you think crime is DOWN in Mexico you need to change the bong water!

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Pancho July 20, 2011 @ 7:22 p.m.

Ken,

No where in the article states any statistical evidence that crime is down in Tijuana and/or Mexico. The border region on both sides are going to have to do a lot more than one press release to demonstrate safety for the average tourist.

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Visduh July 21, 2011 @ 7:35 p.m.

There had been plenty of question about the safety of Mexico, especially the border regions, for tourists for a very long time. One of the things that actually attracted tourists from the US into the border towns was the dark side of the experience. All sorts of illicit things you could buy! All sorts of illicit "services" you could purchase! You could go to a place that didn't speak your language! You could go nuts and get drunk/high and nobody would know!

On the other side of the coin, you could expect to have a run-in with a cop who said you had breezed through a non-existent stop sign or had been "speeding" at 25 mph in a 10 mph zone or had a beer in your hand on the street or . . . But, hey, that shakedown was part of the "experience." Isn't that why you went across the border? To have an experience? Or better yet, you could be robbed by some really ugly types. Or kidnapped and taken to an ATM and ordered to take out as much cash as possible and hand it over as the price of your freedom. Just another experience? Well, then it got past the point of any sort of acceptability.

This Chula Vista clown ought to be recalled for being "felony dumb" when he shilled for Mexico. He knows better, and I suspect that his fellow attendees at the meeting know that the governor of California has NO control over the border. So why do they request the governor "enact laws that expedite border crossing?" For starters, the governor doesn't enact laws--the legislature does. The Department of Homeland Security runs the border crossing, for better or worse, and Sacramento has zilch to say about how they do that.

I have pity for CV if this is the sort of talent they have running their city.

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SDaniel Aug. 14, 2011 @ 3:01 p.m.

If anyone had looked for actual statistics, the comment thread would've probably not reached its current length. Its always better to be informed. Its irresponsible and childish to base our opinion on press outlets that are misinformed, incomplete, rating-driven, and/or alarmist.

HOMICIDE 2009 or 2010: CALIFORNIA: 2009: 1,970 Homicides, http://stats.doj.ca.gov/cjsc_stats/prof09/00/1.htm BAJA CALIFORNIA: 2010: 1,539 Homicides, http://eleconomista.com.mx/seguridad-publica/2011/07/28/chihuahua-estado-mas-muertes-2010

RAPE 2009 OR 2010: CALIFORNIA: 2009: 8,698 Rapes, http://stats.doj.ca.gov/cjsc_stats/prof09/00/1.htm BAJA CALIFORNIA: 2010: 565 Rapes, http://www.icesi.org.mx/documentos/estadisticas/estadisticasOfi/denuncias_violacion_1997_2010.pdf

In Forcible Rape, in 2009 California had 22.6 Rapes per 100k people Vs Baja's 17 Rapes/100k people, actually putting California very close to Chihuahua state's rate. Chihuahua of course is where Ciudad Juarez is located, which is known as a very violent city.

Evidently, the homicide rate is higher per 100k persons in Baja, but nowhere near the numbers you'd imagine based on the alarmist tones of many of our US-based media outlets. Add that to the reality that most of Baja's homicides are drug-related, and you end up asking yourself what the mainstream media's real motivations are.

Another thing that comes to mind is that timeless and always humbling quote, "How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye?..."

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SurfPuppy619 Aug. 15, 2011 @ 10:15 p.m.

BAJA CALIFORNIA: 2010: 1,539 Homicides,

Sorry, mexico is extremely dangerous, all due to the corrupt Mexican government and that corruption has made it a poverty stricken nation despite it's vast natural resources, like oil.

When a nation of 110 million has 90% of their wealth owned by 50 familes and 95% of the country lives in poverty then drugs, drug cartels and drug wars are the end result-social unrest.

TIJUANA DEATHS BY THE NUMBERS

24: Murders Tuesday and yesterday

71: Murders in December

603: Murders in 2009, as of yesterday

844: Murders in 2008 . http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/dec/17/killings-point-surge-drug-war/ .

850 homicides in one year is by far more than ANY city in America, and 3 times that of the largest city in CA, Los Angeles (less than 300 in 2010).

. http://articles.latimes.com/2010/dec/26/local/la-me-la-crime-20101217 .

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SDaniel Aug. 23, 2011 @ 10:55 a.m.

You're right... but wouldn't we be forced to say that by the same token, with 8,698 rapes in California in 2009 (higher per capita than Baja California's 565 rapes) all potential rape victims should avoid visiting California?? Sounds kind of silly!!

Or how about Los Angeles in 1980, or from 1991 thru 1993, when there were more than 1,000 Murders per year? I don't recall the media from Oregon or Arizona or Mexico for that matter, warning against visiting Disneyland.

Indeed that would be a silly proposition, since even though 3 murders per day may sound dangerous, the odds of being a victim are radically reduced if you're (a) not in a gang, (b) not involved in the drug business, and/or (c) just a regular tourist or resident. Of course, the odds apply on both sides of the border or anywhere in the world.

And if we're going to recall numbers from past years (like the 2009 "yesterday" numbers in the comment and link), as Californians we might remind ourselves of the 54 dead in 3 days in Los Angeles:

http://1992losangelesriots.com/What%20Happened%20Then.html

Its sometimes the case that we have to rely on press from out of state (or out of So. CA) in order to read responsibly-written, well-documented, unbiased versions of the situation of our neighbors to the South, who in So. CA's case means Tijuana and the rest of Baja California:

. http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/travel/the_new_tijuana_cool_PYIFsMdE8ssg72RrmqAiHK .

. http://sanfrancisco.grubstreet.com/2011/06/rick_bayless_loves_him_some_ti.html .

. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/09/dining/09tijuana.html?pagewanted=all .

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