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On Saturday (May 17), the Daniel T. Broderick III Award willl be given to attorney Mike Neil. The award has been given since 1990 by three legal groups to the local attorney who supposedly best examplifies civility, integrity and professionalism. Dan Broderick and his new young wife were murdered by his ex-wife Betty Broderick Nov. 5, 1989. She was clearly obsessed with their affair and subsequent marriage. The Wikipedia entry on her says she was frustrated with his "legal connections." The April 1994 issue of California Lawyer stated as follows: "Six days before Dan left Betty, he wired $175,000 to his brother in Colorado. Three weeks before that, he withdrew $80,000 from a business account. The financial figures he submitted to the court failed to mention these two transactions, as well as a $450,000 personal loan to his brother after the couple separated. Dan Broderick's financial accounts did show a number of disastrous investments, especially the ones he made with his brother....Betty paid for half of these losses out of her settlement," while he got properties with low or negative values. Many San Diego women sympathize with Betty, although deploring the murder. There is more on sandiegojudges.com. There are two sides to every story.

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JF May 19, 2008 @ 6:11 a.m.

I dunno, Don... he's sure got the stretching the truth part down.

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JohnnyVegas May 19, 2008 @ 8:32 a.m.

I dunno, Don... he's sure got the stretching the truth part down.

Stop it, you're killing me......lol.

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Don Bauder May 19, 2008 @ 9:42 a.m.

Response to post #78: See post above, #81. Best, Don Bauder

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JohnnyVegas May 13, 2008 @ 10:17 p.m.

Hey JF, did the black guys knock Mike Neil out after he did that????

BTW, what bar was it and what year did ths happen????

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realnews May 13, 2008 @ 11:33 a.m.

<p>SanDiegoJudges.com is a part of www.FamilyLawCourts.com

Seems the very idea of a Dan Broderick "Award" is hilarious, except for demonstrating the misogyny in family court.

Betty was an idiot for shooting devious Dan and the younger, new model. She should have just used her considerable initial settlement to for plastic surgery and gotten someone younger too.

Unfortunately though, the backlash from Betty's actions have been felt by women ever since. So in addition to killing the father of her children, Betty hurt women coming behind her in family court ever since.

In another area though, it's usually men who kill their kids. See www.FamilyLawCourts.com/kids.html

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realnews May 13, 2008 @ 12:43 p.m.

Wouldn't a model of integrity reject the award?

After all, given Dan's past documented behavior as evidenced by the Probate Court, if Dan is a model, what's the product?

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Don Bauder May 13, 2008 @ 1:43 p.m.

Response to post #1: I frequently hear from women who have been mistreated by family court. I have never heard from a man claiming that he was mistreated. The complaints are similar: the husband's lawyer and the judge seemed to be in cahoots. Best, Don Bauder

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paul May 14, 2008 @ 12:04 a.m.

JV: Now, now, I am sure Fumbler is right. It's all the news reports, magazine articles and books that got it wrong, including pictures of the wrong house. ;)

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Don Bauder May 13, 2008 @ 2:10 p.m.

Response to post #2: I do not know of any dope-smoking Reader writers who perpetuate the use of wheat grass and pornography rights. Can you be more specific? Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 13, 2008 @ 2:12 p.m.

Response to post #3: Lawyers often define "integrity" differently than other people do. Best, Don Bauder

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realnews May 13, 2008 @ 3:16 p.m.

It was Judge Howatt whose "financial decisions" against Betty, which were overturned by the Court of Appeal. Maybe it was Howatt that drove her over the edge.

Because it wasn't until two years later that the COA ruled family court judges needn't bother actually reading pleadings before ruling. For details contact the Recorder for their article, a portion of which is below.

Another Bad Day in Family Court By Rinat Fried The Recorder October 6, 2000

An alarming decision from the Fourth District Court of Appeal last week gives fresh substantiation to that old grievance. The court ruled that family law judges in San Diego are not required to read briefs before coming to court to hear the parties' arguments. But more importantly, instead of allowing its judges to take shortcuts, the court should allocate resources in such a way that the judges have enough time to rule fairly and thoughtfully in each case. Just try and imagine a civil law and motion hearing in which you had to ask the judge to read the briefs, and those calendars are often as heavy as any family law department's.

A judge's rulings in a child custody case or alimony dispute are likely to have a profound, central impact on litigants' lives. As much as any corporation or business, family law litigants deserve judges who read their papers, and the certainty that they were heard.

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JohnnyVegas May 13, 2008 @ 4:19 p.m.

If anyone can recall the first trial, it was a hung jury, and there were some pissed off jurors, who were bent out of shape at Dan and the stunts he had pulled.

Having said that, no one deserves to be shot dead in their bed with their spouse, I don't care what they did.

The only time deadly force should ever be used is if you are in danger of death or serious bodily injury.

His son, who was very young when this all went down, is now working in commercial real estate in San Diego-he actually started out at John Burnham, which is the bulding where Dan had his law office (610 W Ash Street).

http://www2.dre.ca.gov/PublicASP/pplinfo.asp?License_id=01328121

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mythusmage May 14, 2008 @ 4:05 a.m.

Paul, #14

Please refrain from mocking mainstream journalism.

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Don Bauder May 14, 2008 @ 6:19 a.m.

Response to post #8: Yes, a couple of jurors held out for manslaughter in the first trial. Best, Don Bauder

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JohnnyVegas May 13, 2008 @ 5:18 p.m.

BTW, this is the house Dan owned with the new wife, don't know if it is still on the market.

Beautiful home, but the history makes it spooky.

1041 Cypress Ave, San Diego 92103(Mission Hills)

$2,850,000 Status: Active Bedroom: 4 Bathroom: 3&1/2 Year Built: 1935 Lot Size: 22651 Square Footage: 3500 List Date: 3/28/2008

http://www.movoto.com/real-estate/homes-for-sale/CA/San-Diego/1041-Cypress-Ave-210_086026256.htm

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JF May 13, 2008 @ 6:49 p.m.

Actually, I think this is perfectly appropriate. I once saw Mike Neil walk into a bar and pull out a statue of a monkey playing the trumpet. I believe it played "Hello, Dolly". Neil then walked up to a table with three black gentlemen, slammed the statue on the table in front of them and said, "What do you think of this? Don't like it? Well, we don't like your kind here. Get out." Yep, the model of "civility, integrity and professionalism".

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JohnnyVegas May 13, 2008 @ 10:15 p.m.

johnny vegass it is not cypress AVE it is cypress WAY i know because cause i grew up right around the corner from there...a typical mangling of simple facts that you seem to have a knack for..stop smoking the gange

Fumbler, lay off the pipe buddy.

Cypress Way dead ends INTO Cypress Ave, and that is where 1041 CYPRESS AVE IS, at the end of Cypress Way. They are two (2) different streets.

Here, try this Fumbler, drive over to the house, look at the house/street numbers for both streets and then come back and kiss my butt, thank you....LOL.

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Don Bauder May 14, 2008 @ 6:18 a.m.

Response to post #7: It may have been a judge or the woes of confronting a legal system when trying to get justice from a lawyer-ex-husband that tipped her over the edge. Or internal factors may have complicated things. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 14, 2008 @ 6:21 a.m.

Response to post #9: The history of that house might reduce the price, although the murder was almost 20 years ago. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 14, 2008 @ 6:22 a.m.

Response to post #10: What's "the gange?" Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 14, 2008 @ 6:24 a.m.

Response to post #11: If Mike Neil wants to dispute this account, he is free to do so. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 14, 2008 @ 6:25 a.m.

Response to post #12: No kissing on this site. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 14, 2008 @ 6:28 a.m.

Response to post #13: Specificity would help. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 14, 2008 @ 6:31 a.m.

Response to post #14: We must get this right. Was it Ave. or Way? Help! Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 14, 2008 @ 6:35 a.m.

Response to post #15: Whether it was Ave. or Way, we now have a revelation: fumber was reared in an upscale neighborhood with a silver spoon in his mouth. Did he eat wheat grass out of that spoon? Best, Don bauder

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Fred Williams May 14, 2008 @ 7:11 a.m.

Re: #2.

We all stand up for wheat grass and pornography rights. It's only the TrueAmericanChristian(TM) thing to do, fumber.

Re: #19

Don, we all know you are in your dotage, and have never had the pleasure of exploring the standard uses of sex, drugs, and rock and roll. But this just doesn't excuse you from getting with all us hep cats and knowing that "gange" (pronounced gaenj) is short for "ganja", which is another word for marijuana.

Marijuana is a drug so powerful and addictive that just one puff turns you into a raging, violent sex-offender/murderous-animal. Scientific studies have proven that, in addition to wheat-grass, marijuana is single-handedly responsible for the moral decay of today's youth and proliferation of pornography on the internets.

This is why all right thinking TrueAmericanChristians(TM), like fumber, believe that any and all smokers of this evil devil's-weed must be publicly executed.

So you just ignore all those financial shenanigans, frauds, thefts, and ballpork rip-offs. Follow the lead of Dumanis and put college kids in jail for using this horrible weed, also sometimes known as "gange".

Best,

Rev. Fred Williams

Leader of the TrueAmericanChristians(TM)

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Don Bauder May 14, 2008 @ 7:50 a.m.

Response to post #25: Even in my dotage, I can sense sarcasm. Some explanations: yes, I never sampled drugs of any kind, other than prescription medicines. It's a generational thing; I went through college in the 1950s when booze was omnipresent, but drugs weren't. There is one exception: just before my first bypass surgery, going into an angiogram, I was given a quaalude. It was a helluva high. When I went into my second bypass nine years later, I couldn't wait to get another quaalude. Alas, they had stopped using quaaludes. (I hope I have that spelled right.) And you are right about Dumanis: she really goes after the small-time offenders and looks the other way at multi-million dollar scams of establishment figures who might be big donors. Others in San Diego law enforcement have the same bias. There is a double standard; there is justice only for some, not all. Citizens are beginning to figure that out. Best, Don Bauder

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Fred Williams May 14, 2008 @ 8:50 a.m.

Me? Sarcastic? Noooooo!

You know I've got nothing but love for you Don, but stay away from those 'ludes, dude. They're bad news.

However, you might want to try medical marijuana for some of the aches and pains of age. It's great for appetite...even better than wheat grass for a night cuddling by the fire with the missus.

Seriously, we all might be better off switching away from the alcohol to something far more benign. Everyone knows of "nasty drunks", but the only thing a pothead attacks is a bag of cheetos.

As the SDSU drug raids news trickles out, we find that in fact the number of arrests is similar to previous years, and that the lion's share of these persecutions are for simple possession of pot. The media is slowly cluing in to the real story...the DA's office wild inflation of the numbers to justify their violent battering-ram raids.

How is it that in an investigation lasting a year they netted so very little? Weed has always been ubiquitous at SDSU. Yet somehow SDSU is recognized as the premier research university in the CSU system.

Maybe there's a correlation. Great schools like UC Berkeley are also well known for heavy pot consumption. Perhaps pot heads are better researchers, and more independent thinkers, than mere beer guzzlers.

I'd be interested in seeing the Reader interview some of the low level "offenders" to tell the story of how anti-pot laws destroy lives. Clearly the "drug" itself is NOT the problem.

After all, you can smoke up a lot of weed as a young man and still be elected President of the United States. Ask Bush, Clinton, or Obama...

Best,

Fred Williams

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Don Bauder May 14, 2008 @ 11:11 a.m.

Response to post #27: I dropped alcohol almost 35 years ago; the only things inducing euphoria for me are my wife, my sons, and a whole bunch of composers: Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Wagner, Mahler, Handel, Chopin, Schubert in particular, and in that order. I don't need pot -- but then again, since I have no idea what it's like, how do I know? I understand that SDSU gets about as much research money as all the other CSU institutions combined -- at least, it used to be that way. As to why the gumshoes caught so few in a year: isn't it always that way? Best, Don Bauder

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JF May 14, 2008 @ 11:13 a.m.

JV, the Neil incident was at Dublin Square on St. Patrick's Day sometime in the late 1990's. I believe that was while he was still in the Marine Corps and not an upstanding citizen like he is now. (Not to slight Marines)

About the only person I know who could vouch for the incident is my ex, and I'm pretty sure that she isn't going to be doing me any big favors soon.

The black guys saw that Neil wasn't alone and chose not to make a scene. I was pretty shocked and told Neil that I thought it was a crappy thing to do. At the time, I didn't know who he was. To her credit, my ex dragged me out of the bar before Neil and I had further discussion on the subject.

Next time you see him, you might simply ask if he has or had such a statue. You can fill in the blanks from there.

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Don Bauder May 14, 2008 @ 11:15 a.m.

Response to post #28: This is the first time you have admitted an error, fumber. We all make mistakes; now even you have learned that. As to that kiss: this is between the two of you. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 14, 2008 @ 11:17 a.m.

Response to post #29: Fred Williams is one of our best writers. We don't want to see him impaled in any way. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 14, 2008 @ 11:20 a.m.

Response to post #31: If Neil wants to refute any of this, the line is open. Best, Don Bauder

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JohnnyVegas May 14, 2008 @ 11:37 p.m.

That's it.

Its now been conformed, Fumbler is Hartline.

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Fred Williams May 14, 2008 @ 11:56 a.m.

fumber writes:

fred williams is still on his dope smoking crusade to free our minds with excremental substances though...what a loser ...and he should be impaled with one of his own steel sausages..on the 6pm news.

Golly, thanks fumber.

You're right. I do think we should all smoke excremental substances. This is why another synonym for pot is "s". So smoke that s up, bro!

And you are absolutely correct to say I'm a loser. Why just last night I was playing scrabble...I lost. So humiliating.

Why, fumber, you are so insightful and thoughtful too. I'd never expected such an endorsement of my steel sausage. It's good to know I have an admirer. I'm sorry I wouldn't let you touch my sausage, even though you begged to do so, but next time you need a good impaling, just let me know.

I only differ with you on one tiny issue...I don't really care for the 6 p.m. news. It's so shallow.

So what about changing it to 7 p.m.? You know, the News Hour on PBS? That's a great show, and I think it would get a lot more viewers too!

Whattya say, my dear RealAmericanChristian(TM) friend?

Best,

Fred Williams

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Don Bauder May 14, 2008 @ 2:18 p.m.

Response to post #35: I seldom lose in Scrabble -- but, unfortunately, I seldom get a chance to play. My motto is "indomitable in defeat, insufferable in victory." No one will play me. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 14, 2008 @ 2:22 p.m.

Response to post #36: Those words "deviated prevert" remind me of the great movie, "Dr. Strangelove." I will never forget the officer, machine gun in hand, confronting someone who is trying to stop the world from being blown up in a nuclear holocaust. Says the officer, "Are you one of them preverts?" Best, Don Bauder

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JohnnyVegas May 14, 2008 @ 2:29 p.m.

I think my buddy fumbler is James Hartline (incongnito of course).

That's my call.

http://hartline08.com/

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JohnnyVegas May 14, 2008 @ 2:35 p.m.

JV, the Neil incident was at Dublin Square on St. Patrick's Day sometime in the late 1990's. I believe that was while he was still in the Marine Corps and not an upstanding citizen like he is now. (Not to slight Marines)

The state bar says this Mike Neil guy has been an attorney for 41 yesr, was he part of JAG???

And if this happened in the last 90's he would still be 50-60 years old........

http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/member_detail.aspx?x=40057

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JF May 14, 2008 @ 4:03 p.m.

His website says that Neil is past president of the "Friendly Sons of Saint Patrick". And on the board of the Padres. I like the Friendly Sons. I don't like the Padres management. Whatever.

The only other time I've had the pleasure of meeting General Neil is in the elevator in his office building. He was berating someone for taking the elevator to the fourth floor rather than walking. Little did he know that the individual had just gotten off of crutches after breaking an ankle.

And yeah, Johnny, that would be about right. He was a recently retired general at the time.

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Don Bauder May 14, 2008 @ 8:16 p.m.

Post #39: Doesn't Hartline use a piety pitch? Fumber certainly doesn't. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 14, 2008 @ 8:20 p.m.

Response to post #40: Neil was an attorney when he took over Pendleton on a temporary basis. He was a reserve Marine general. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 14, 2008 @ 8:22 p.m.

Response to post #41: Neil was instrumental in both the Chargers and Padres getting their massive corporate welfare. That would explain why he is still connected to the Padres. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 14, 2008 @ 8:24 p.m.

Response to post #42: Thanks for the clarification. I saw the movie in the 1960s. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 15, 2008 @ 7:37 a.m.

Response to posts #47 and #48: Massive humping in the bushes around Balboa Park? This is new to me, but as I have confessed on this blog site many times, I am pathetically naive about modern day activities. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 15, 2008 @ 7:39 a.m.

Response to post #49: I don't think it is confirmed. I don't think fumber is Hartline. Best, Don Bauder

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Fred Williams May 15, 2008 @ 12:16 p.m.

Our friend fumber does seem a bit obsessed with sexuality and wheatgrass...an odd combination, but "live and let live".

What I'd really like to know is fumber's opinion on the issues today in San Diego.

Does fumber think our city is on the right track, or does he agree that we need a major change to get San Diego back on track?

Would fumber say that giving everyone the same access to marriage is such a bad thing that it outweighs massive civic fraud, cover-ups, and collusion of the local paper with the professional politicians in charge?

Would fumber think that gay bar patrons pushing in each other's stools is more deserving of his attention than local politicians filling each other's pockets with our money?

Fumber, do you support judicial corruption? Please clarify...

Finally, I'd like to ask Russl for his linguistic assistance:

deviated pervert

Well, to deviate means to diverge or move away from...so if I'm a DEVIATED pervert I guess that means I'm not really a pervert at all.

I resent that implication. I've not turned my back on perversity, and intend to continue my perverse ways, perverting all around me, and perversely perverting perverts to pervert all perverse perversion. I shall not deviate from this.

Russ, did I understand fumber properly, or am I perverting his meaning? Help me out. I don't want to use deviant English here on the venerable Reader.

Best,

Rev. Fred Williams Holy Church of the Divine Deviated Perversion

(golly, it sure is fun to toy with fumber...I bet he's a big hit at parties)

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Don Bauder May 15, 2008 @ 1:18 p.m.

Response to post #52: When I saw "deviated prevert" I also winced. But I concentrated on the "prevert" aspect; it was fun to recall "Dr. Strangelove." In some previous posts, as I recall, fumber has said he is satisfied with San Diego's incumbents and political culture, and, in fact, feels sorry for the incumbents because of the contumely aimed at them by the Reader. But I will let him speak for himself. Best, Don Bauder

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JohnnyVegas May 15, 2008 @ 5:52 p.m.

But I will let [Fumbler] speak for himself.

Fumbler can't speak for himself. He has trouble putting together 2 coherent sentences in a row.

But he is amusing.

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Don Bauder May 15, 2008 @ 6:55 p.m.

Response to post #54: Fumber doesn't write in sentences. That is his style. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 15, 2008 @ 6:57 p.m.

Response to post #55: How do you know that Fred is large? Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 16, 2008 @ 6:38 a.m.

Response to post #58: My guess is that there are lots of people named Fred Williams around the U.S., including San Diego. Do you think all of them fit the description you give? Best, Don Bauder

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Fred Williams May 18, 2008 @ 6:54 a.m.

Wow...fumber sure has me pegged.

Dang!

How does he do it? Such erudition and wisdom...Golly!

Better go drown my corpulent carcass in wheatgrass now. The cruel commentariat has bruised my delicate feelings...*sniff.

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Don Bauder May 18, 2008 @ 8:04 a.m.

Response to post #60: Do you suppose fumber is a wheatgrass distributor or retailer? Who would have even heard of wheatgrass if it weren't for fumber? He may be sitting there laughing at us, rolling in money. Best, Don Bauder

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Fred Williams May 18, 2008 @ 8:13 a.m.

Full disclosure:

I drank wheatgrass once. It was disgusting.

Perhaps "fumber" is really Charles F. Schnabel?

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Don Bauder May 18, 2008 @ 11:18 a.m.

Response to post #62: Everybody who has tried wheatgrass says it tastes horrible. My guess is that those who consume wheatgrass hate themselves, and drinking wheatgrass is a symbolic form of self-flagellation. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 18, 2008 @ 11:19 a.m.

Response to post #63: Johnny, you keep saying that fumber is actually James Hartline. But you do not offer definitive proof of that thesis. Do you have any? Best, Don Bauder

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Russ Lewis May 18, 2008 @ 11:48 a.m.

re #66: The mask falls! Fumbler is actually Gen. Jack D. Ripper!

By the way, wheatgrass can be found at any juice joint and doesn't taste that bad. It's not awful, it's just OK. It's a powerful antioxidant -- that's the reason people drink it.

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JF May 18, 2008 @ 2:43 p.m.

63.

Fumbler= James Hartline.

And Johnny Vegas = Bob Ilko. Or maybe not. ;)

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JohnnyVegas May 18, 2008 @ 3:41 p.m.

Hahaha...the "Bob Ilko" fantasy has risen from the dead.

Thanks "Jim Fowler".

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JohnnyVegas May 18, 2008 @ 3:42 p.m.

Johnny, you keep saying that fumber is actually James Hartline. But you do not offer definitive proof of that thesis.

No proof at all, just a hunch based on similar personality disorders.

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Don Bauder May 18, 2008 @ 5:50 p.m.

Response to post #66: The wheatgrass lobby will be after you, fumber, for saying that use of wheatgrass makes the system impure. It's supposed to do the reverse. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 18, 2008 @ 5:55 p.m.

Response to post # 67: Leave it to russl to clarify these weighty matters. 1. Jack D. Ripper: could be. 2. Wheatgrass doesn't taste all that bad: a minority voice, but one to be heard. 3. Wheatgrass is an antioxidant. That explains it. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 18, 2008 @ 5:57 p.m.

Response to post #68: I have no idea who Bob Ilko is and I refuse to look it up. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 18, 2008 @ 5:58 p.m.

Response to post #69: I don't know who Jim Fowler is. But I'll bet there are a lot of them. Best, Don Bauder

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JF May 18, 2008 @ 7:34 p.m.

Don, a lot of folks thought Johnny Vegas was former Council District 5 candidate Bob Ilko. It does make some amount of sense -- both lawyers, both went to the police academy, etc. But not enough sense.

Meanwhile, Johnny Vegas tried to 'out' me as being a "Jim Fowler". There is no one of that last name employed by the city of San Diego. I have no idea of how he came up with that.

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Don Bauder May 18, 2008 @ 9:29 p.m.

Response to post #75: Thanks for telling me Bob Ilko is. Johnny Vegas has deep knowledge of many disparate topics ranging over a number of fields. Somebody like that is certainly overqualified for city council. Best, Don Bauder

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JohnnyVegas May 19, 2008 @ 8:37 a.m.

JF-for the record, Bob Ilko was an actual SDPD cop. RW came up with that. I had no idea who Ilko was or what RW was talking about when he started that line. So, as to why anyone would think I am Ilko, I will fall back on your statement about Jim Fowler, " I have no idea of how he came up with that."

There was a SDFD FF on VoSD who used the Jim Fowler handle, so I think I, like most people, assumed it was you.

Maybe you were doing that to throw everyone off, the old monkey wrench trick-----???

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Fred Williams May 19, 2008 @ 9:37 a.m.

The wise and venerable Russl says wheatgrass is an anti-oxidant.

But "fumber", who is actually Duncan Hunter, misunderstood...he thought Russ said "anti-occident", and Duncan (er, fumber) is so pro-westerner that he took offence.

Now it's all finally clear...

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Don Bauder May 19, 2008 @ 9:41 a.m.

Response to post #77: JF will never say a kind word about Johnny and vice versa. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 19, 2008 @ 9:44 a.m.

Response to post #79: I don't know who JF is, or JohnnyVegas is. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 19, 2008 @ 9:47 a.m.

Response to post #80: Fumber is actually Duncan Hunter? Hmmm. Hunter ran for president. Yes, Hunter would be pro-occident. Best, Don Bauder

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JF May 21, 2008 @ 7:47 a.m.

"JF will never say a kind word about Johnny and vice versa."

That's the irony Don. In discussions about our politics, Johnny Vegas and I are a lot alike. I simply don't agree with his positions on city employee compensation.

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Don Bauder May 21, 2008 @ 9:27 a.m.

Response to post #85: Yes, you two will never agree on city employee compensation. I'm on Johnny's side on that: San Diego goes bankrupt unless it gets employee compensation and benefits under control. Best, Don Bauder

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JF May 21, 2008 @ 2:23 p.m.

Don, the city is going to have a hard time proving that they're bankrupt when they voluntarily spent $25 million on renovating the Balboa Theater... or when they voluntarily spent $40 million on replacing the computer system.

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JF May 21, 2008 @ 10:30 p.m.

Don, the Balboa Theater project started in 2003. And it was actually $26.5 million. They could have stopped work at any time and redirected that CCDC money into building fire stations downtown. But they didn't.

The computer system may pay off. But it certainly could've been scaled down or put off for a year.

Once again, the pension bill is only $160 million of a $3 billion dollar budget.

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Don Bauder May 21, 2008 @ 8:32 p.m.

Response to post #87: I believe the Balboa project was started long before San Diego knew it was on the financial brink. But that aside, any entity goes bankrupt for a number of reasons: profligate spending is one of them. Spending for the computer system may actually pay off in the long run. Best, Don Bauder

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Fred Williams May 23, 2008 @ 9:20 a.m.

I just read that Mike Neil is the lawyer for Blackwater and will be suing the City of San Diego on their behalf.

"Model of Integrity"?

Nope.

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Don Bauder May 22, 2008 @ 8:32 a.m.

Response to post #89: The City admitted publicly that it had a financial problem in early 2004. Also, I believe planning for Balboa was going on long before 2003. If I'm wrong on that, somebody please correct me. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 24, 2008 @ 6:31 a.m.

Response to post #92: Look around you at the streets, sewers, water system, libraries. Isn't that enough? Best, Don Bauder

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JohnnyVegas May 24, 2008 @ 3:53 p.m.

More excellent commentary on public pensions;

Getting Tougher About Pension Retroactivity http://www.governing.com/articles/0802gmillerb.htm

Rialto’s Pension Give-Away May 2008 By GIRARD MILLER Retroactive pension increases waste taxpayers' money.

http://www.governing.com/articles/0805gmillerc.htm

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JF May 23, 2008 @ 8:48 p.m.

Don, so what? I've planned to do lots of things in my life and realized that I simply cannot afford it. Besides, that's just an example. The city will have to prove to a judge that it hasn't spent money on non-essential items to show it's bankrupt.

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Don Bauder May 24, 2008 @ 6:29 a.m.

Response to post #91: I haven't read that Neil will be representing Blackwater, but I am not surprised. He is a military man. He also was a leader in both the Chargers and Padres scams. He is not interested in the financial health of the City. He is interested in lining the pockets of the superrrich at the City's expense. Best, Don Bauder

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JohnnyVegas May 24, 2008 @ 3:50 p.m.

Hey, are you two still "debating" the pensions scam....lol!

Hey JF, take a look at Vallejo-that is where we are headed. Us and many other municipalities.

Please go to this web site EVRY day and read the latest news.

http://www.pensiontsunami.com/public.php

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Don Bauder May 24, 2008 @ 6:04 p.m.

Response to post #95: It behooves every San Diegan to read up on Vallejo. Best, Don Bauder

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Don Bauder May 24, 2008 @ 6:06 p.m.

Response to post #96: You're providing us with lots of excellent reading material, Johnny. Best, Don Bauder

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