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VISHNU

he blended into the jungle graceful as a fluid cat as he walked along the trail... only his luminous blue face could be glimpsed thru the lush foliage... barest sunbeam flashed upon him... barest moonbeam reached out to illuminate his countenance

the GOD so far ahead...

and he so far behind and then the other pilgrim walking ahead of him with her swaying tiny bells wrapped around her hips to take his attention... urge him forward to continue thru the leafy labyrinth

i must get ahead of her...

i must have a full view to reach the God and commandeer his blessing...

and so he cried out

lauding his Lord begging him to allow the breach pass this one to move forward on the trail

as he moved very close her scent and beauty the undulating movements of her hips... the tilt of her head... the long succulent curves of her neck... the beauty of her moving calves and thighs... began to overwhelm him

he pressed his body into her back... and found his lingum growing

all concentration left him... as his urge to mount her was overbearing... burning all other thoughts from his mind

she then turned to him lifting her magnificent breast with each hand... and the image of his Lord left him

lost his happiness

lost his oblivion

lost the path to bliss

but as the woman began to move on... suddenly his Lord appeared before his eyes more clearly

and he called out to him

"Master..Master"

"remove this woman Master"

"she only clutters my mind

as she works her bodily spell over me"

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the Lord laughed

"you have no hope pilgrim

have no hope to follow me

if she is not on the trail before you

you must court her

win her condolence

make her see you always

and guide you always

she is my most cherished handmaiden

learn her name"

what is her name my Lord

and faintly in the breeze that blew by his ears he heard her whisper seductively

MY NAME IS KARMA

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MichaelMonterey May 19, 2010 @ 4:44 p.m.

Nan, That's a very intriguing, extremely thought provoking little story. I wonder, was it inspired by the divinity depicted or the other, with the overpowering charms? And I wonder if it comes of a long relationship with a particular teacher or lineage or long study. My understanding of karma is much simpler and maybe less engaging, but it is accurate enough. My teacher and his teachers say that Karma is never the results, only the action or, more precisely, the activity. So, I like to think of it as the universal Law of Interdependent Interactivity. It's like playing pool or billiards. Karma is like the break shot and each subsequent shot, not the score or the winnings after the game. Naturally, one may think that the movement of the balls after the break shot are results, but they are secondary actions or secondary or tertiary causes. There is no separation of the first cause, the first action and all the reations that follow. The whole sequence of interactions in the game are a seamless web of activity and causes. Some of the actions and causes are the decisions and movements of the players, some skillful, some more clumsy. Scoring, bets, and debts are results of the notions, beliefs, rules, agreements, strategies and tactics of the players. The misunderstandings about the Law of Karma are like that. We can change the direction and outcome of our entire chain of interactive events by changing our minds and our intentions with each decision -- before committing each action. Each active expression of a decision is like a shot on the cosmic pool table of life. So, I guess that means that we can keep our goals, strategy & methods in front of us with some foresight and compassionate wisdom. Does that make any sense? Thanks for the thought provoking fable. Love & Blissings, M

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nan shartel May 19, 2010 @ 7:50 p.m.

ah a mystical metaphysical thinker

one who only joined the Readers members today...to leave a comment on this blog perhaps???

the analogy of the pool table tells me u have a "beautiful mind"..the "misunderstandings about the Rules of Karma" fall into the misunderstanding of ones needs to make static the ever moving changing scenario of life itself

would it be possible to consider the pool table as Vishnu..the blue God and the Cue ball as the follower in the piece...as u say skilled or clumsy life is in play

Naturally, one may think that the movement of the balls after the break shot are results, but they are secondary actions or secondary or tertiary causes.

i'm somewhat in agreement with this statement however the symmetry of the intention is only viewed as causal when plotted in time

hey i have to give my husband dinner now...will be back in a jiffy...Darshan Nan

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SDaniels May 20, 2010 @ 2:13 a.m.

Nice stuff, nan! "...win her condolence..." [shivers] ;)

re: #1:

"We can change the direction and outcome of our entire chain of interactive events by changing our minds and our intentions with each decision -- before committing each action.

Each active expression of a decision is like a shot on the cosmic pool table of life. So, I guess that means that we can keep our goals, strategy & methods in front of us with some foresight and compassionate wisdom. Does that make any sense?"

Just to clarify: What you are referring to as an "active expression of a decision" is this mental turn or change one can have in thought, just before acting on a decision?

Now: Is the power of foresight you mention here definable as the consistent knowledge that everything in this schema must be interconnected in ways we aren't aware or haven't thought of?

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nan shartel May 20, 2010 @ 2:02 p.m.

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that jiffy turned into an overniter...hahahahahahaha...thus karma comes into play

i must say u've set me to thinking about ur inquiry Michael...i realize i've not answered some asked question

i have no organised teacher...other then the many philosophical teachers of history and the Universes diversity at large

the offered Hindu divinties are mirrors... as are all divinities and non divinities that have blessed humanity over time with their thought and wisdom

thru them i have chosen hope and not given in completely in to "L'existentialisme est un humanisme" which is also in play on the pool table...i do however recognize the aspect of choosing a view and tend to be more Buber then Camus who rejected the "tremendous cry of hope"...in favor of the absurdity of human existence

the "I/Thou of Buber and the Jesuits has more meaning to me

your view of Karma is as good as any...as is mine or anyone else's

i use a little stronger word then Interactive Interdependency...i use the word Synergy...which i think gives some small or large buffer against Chaos the true state of all things constantly in flux

we can think of it as "being in the now"...a well prized concept in both secular and non secular thought

the greatest good i think comes from NOT coming to conclusions where life thinking is concerned...approaching life in an open handed way

for me this is where Karma comes into play...in that she will always be on the path before us...hindering and helping the forward movement of the seeker...as she distracts our focus and clarifies our minds for new knowings and blesses us with the gift of internal wisdom by her presence

her greatest gift is the personal wisdom that altho we are pausing we are not in a static state

goodness...that was a workout...something i rarely get a chance to express in words...thx for ur Karma in ur 1st comment Michael..Darshan...Nan

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nan shartel May 20, 2010 @ 2:12 p.m.

thx SDaniels

this was a poem actually...but i couldn't get the READER to set it up that way in stanzas

it was way more effective that way

when i wrote it i had as per usual for me nothing but the word Karma in mind

so it falls into my category of more "write it out throw away poetry"

this was one of a very few poem i put into my computer and that special Karmic friend of mine had no chance to throw away

a Karmic event in and of itself....hahahahahahaha...the Universe had plans for it i guess

i hope Michael will return to discuss ur question...but his Karma will help him decide that

Namaste sweetie and i hope u r feeling better...nan

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antigeekess May 20, 2010 @ 5:18 p.m.

Okay, so I just logged onto Facebook to direct my ex-BF to this blog. (He's full into Hinduism at this stage of his life.)

This was the top post on my NewsFeed, put there by him. (Please watch with headphones if possible, and no distractions.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWEMOwGhN0c

Supercool coinky-dink.

:)

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antigeekess May 20, 2010 @ 5:30 p.m.

Holy smokes! How did I do THAT?

Evidently, when you cut/paste a Facebook link to a vid into these comments, you get the vid instead of just the link. What a pleasant surprise. :)

I did not know that. Anyway, please make it full screen. It's really beautiful to watch & will be more effective that way.

i'm somewhat in agreement with this statement however the symmetry of the intention is only viewed as causal when plotted in time"

Exactly. Can't have cause/effect (see previous rants about the Western obsession with dualism) without time, and time has no place in discussions about eternity.

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nan shartel May 20, 2010 @ 7:22 p.m.

oh Auntie G...u fantabulous woman..i may even rejoin Facebook to have this capacity...if i saw the code i might be able to duplicate it with other things and videos in the comments

i saw SurfPuppies Dalmations one

AHA!!!

Yippee...another instance of Karma to pleasantly surprise us eh Auntie G

dat dang Siddhartha tried to teach us to go with flow to no avail...maybe because Hesse was German eh....hahahahahahahaha

The river is the physical embodiment of what Siddhartha sees as a philosophical truth.

there is inductive logic Auntie G...but who other then scientist pay attention to it...that spark of cohesion between Eastern and Western thought flickers but seldom becomes a blaze

u have graced this blog with a truly gorgeous video Auntie

~~bowing to your Namaste~~

nan

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CuddleFish May 21, 2010 @ 9:36 a.m.

I watched that awesome video again just to make sure -- there is no depiction of the Virgin de Guadalupe in there.

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nan shartel May 21, 2010 @ 9:49 a.m.

and she's so beautiful and such a powerful image in the Mexican culture...to bad..i have one here...a pic i mean ...in my home

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nan shartel May 21, 2010 @ 9:59 a.m.

but there are many Christian female iconographies depicted Cuddles

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MichaelMonterey May 29, 2010 @ 2:25 a.m.

Nan & SDaniels,

SD: Re: #3 "What you are referring to as an "active expression of a decision" is this mental turn or change one can have in thought, just before acting on a decision?"

MM: Results have causes. Each action or sequence of actions, whether mental, verbal, or bodily action, like doing a break shot, involves a prior decision. Our consciousness of sequences depends on how still we can be, how aware of the flow of activity. You may be able to perceive very tiny moments of the flow of events. Yet, when does one event or set of events end and the next begin. Still, I think "yes" is the right answer.

SD: Re: #3 "Is the power of foresight... definable as the consistent knowledge that everything... must be interconnected in ways we aren't aware or haven't thought of?"

MM: For me, "power" means the possibility or potential to make things happen. Thinking about Karma as an alluring woman can stimulate contemplations of great value. If we think of "her" leading us, without separating ourselves from "her" essence, I think of foresight. Its power is the potential and/or possibility to create a desired result, with action or inaction or nonaction. If we know that we don't know all that we don't know, and remember or focus on what we do know, using foresight let's us direct our flow of creative energy, intentionally, intelligently, instead of simply reacting. It also makes learning more likely and, usually, more productive. So, I think the answer to your Q#2 is no.

Nan, Thanks for the reminder of "A Beautiful Mind" which I take as a complement. I also like your beautiful mind, etc.

Anyway, I see the synergetic combination of foresight, intelligence, intent, will, and focused activity as nonchaotic negentropy in action. It makes a game of pool possible and interesting, but none of all that is Karma. Cause is cause, and results are results, not Karma.

Various aspects of universal presence are integral, inextricable functions of the whole, inseparable from it and each other and, yet, each is distinct, with its own essential, primal identity. Human identity, being, and awareness likewise, are integral to universal presence, along with our purposiveness, intent, and creativity. So, I have no trouble "seeing" the nonchaotic (Yang) side of the cosmic Yin-Yang and the chaotic (Yin) side, and the nondual polarity of their relativity. It seems more difficult to see our integral wisdom & compassion as a nondual polarity. Yet, they inspire, motivate, and/or constrain our interaction.

We could have fun with analogies involving your husband and you and your marriage, but I trust this will do for now. Good morning. Thanks & Blissings to both of you.

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nan shartel June 1, 2010 @ 11:58 a.m.

u came back to speak with those who queried u...thx so much Michael

~~“Chaos in the world brings uneasiness, but it also allows the opportunity for creativity and growth.”~~

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nan shartel June 1, 2010 @ 11:59 a.m.

and my quote

chaos needs to be viewed with a generous eye

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