San Diego Tax Fighters' Richard Rider at the podium, with San Diego County Republican Party chair Tony Krvaric, Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association's Jon Coupal, and other Prop 30 opponents
Image posted by Dave Rice
October 31, 2012
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To be fair, this was a PRESS CONFERENCE -- not a rally. No effort was made to bring the troops -- by either side.
It's no different than Governor Brown's recent press conference FOR Prop 30 -- which had about 20 supporters in attendance -- almost all government employees.
The one BIG difference is that Gov. Brown banned any opponents from standing within one block of his press conference on PUBLIC PROPERTY -- and used multiple police forces to enforce this edict -- threatening arrest to "trespassers." At our press conference, we would not -- and did not.
There is one aspect of this measure that few have reported on. Look at who is FUNDING Prop 30.
About 90% of the money (currently over $60 million!) is coming from the labor unions -- including OUT OF STATE labor unions.
[BTW, much of the rest of the Prop 30 funding consists of extortion payments made by big California corporations desperately trying to curry favor with the Sacramento Democrats backing this measure.]
Trust the union bosses to understand what Prop 30 is REALLY about -- the continuance of the status quo -- high pay and terrific pensions for CA state and local employees.
As goes CA, so goes the nation. And the unions know it.
California ALREADY has the 2nd worst state income tax in the nation. Our 9.3% tax bracket starts at $48,029 for people filing as individuals. 10.3% tax starts at $1,000,000.
Governor Brown has put on the ballot Prop 30 to change the “millionaires’ tax” to 13.3%, starting at $500,000 – including capital gains. If approved, CA will be by far #1 in income tax rates.
We will be 21% higher than the 2nd highest state (Hawaii), 34% higher than the 3rd highest state (Oregon), and a heck of a lot higher than all the rest – including 7 states with zero state income tax.
http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/docs/ff2012.pdf Tables #11 & 13
CA ALREADY has the highest state sales tax rate in the nation. 7.25% (does not include local sales taxes).
CA corporate income tax rate (8.84%) is the highest west of the Mississippi (our economic competitors) except for Alaska.
Table #1 – we are 6th highest nationwide.
With our high tax and anti-business policies, CA has become the engine of prosperity -- for the OTHER 49 states.
CA has the 2nd highest gas tax in the nation at 68.9 cents/gallon (October, 2012). National average is 49.3 cents.
(also CA has the nation’s 2nd highest diesel tax – 77.1 cents/gallon. National average 54.5 cents)
California in 2009 ranked 15th highest in per capita property taxes (including commercial) – the only major tax where we are not in the worst ten states. But CA property taxes per owner-occupied home were the 10th highest in the nation in 2009.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/1913.html (2009 latest year available)
CA needlessly licenses more occupations than any state – 177. Second worst state is Connecticut at 155. The average for the states is 92.
California’s 2013 “business tax climate” still ranks 3rd worst in the nation – behind New Jersey and New York state.
CA public school teachers the highest paid in the nation. CA students rank 48th in math achievement, 49th in reading.
http://www.lao.ca.gov/reports/2011/calfacts/calfacts_010511.aspx page 36
1 in 5 in Los Angeles County receiving public aid.
California has 12% of the nation’s population, but 33% of the country’s TANF (“Temporary” Assistance for Needy Families) welfare recipients – more than the next 7 states combined. Unlike other states, this “temporary” assistance becomes much more permanent in CA. http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/jul/28/welfare-capital-of-the-us/?print&page=all
California prison guards highest paid in the nation. http://www.caltax.org/caltaxletter/2008/101708_fraud1.htm
California has a nasty anti-small business $800 minimum corporate income tax, even if no profit is earned, and even for many nonprofits. Next highest state is Oregon at $150. A few others under $100, with most at zero.
California small businesses failed in 2011 at a rate 69% higher than the national average -- the worst state in the nation.
(based on Dunn & Bradstreet study)
America’s top 650 CEO’s rank California “the worst state in which to do business” for the 8th straight year (May, 2012).
(It’s worth reading the short article, and especially the part about California.)
BTW, a kind word for the 4 opponents who came with their signs. They made their point with decorum -- not in any way interfering with our press conference. They spoke with the press when reporters queried them for opinions, which was fine.
BOTH sides could learn a lesson from their civil behavior. Kudos to those folks for behaving like the adults they are.
Richard, Prop 30 is toast. It is under 50%, last poll said 45%, and that gap is widening as the election draws closer.
I think it is safe to say Prop 30 has no chance of winning.
I hope that you are correct surpuppy619.
However consider this. The most recent USC/LAT poll had support for prop 30 at 46%. But in that poll, more than 60% of those surveyed were over the age of 45. But what about they "youth" vote? A PPIC poll from just 1 week ago found that 70 percent of voters age 18 to 34 support Prop 30. If this demographic shows up at the polls, it could seriously change the outcome.
BTW, notice the group on the picture along with Richard Rider. How many are in the 18-29 age group? I'm just sayin'....
BTW, by way of a followup, the latest A new Field Poll says that if the election were held today 48 % would vote Yes on Prop. 30, 38 % would vote no, and 14 % are undecided. That makes it too close to call in my book.
So I wouldn't be so sure that it has no chance of winning at this point.
I doubt support is 48%....if you read the variious news sources that allow comments, the negative comments are 10-1 against 30.
I preduct it loses, by 8-10 points.
I'm not the poll taker simply relaying the results. The survey was taken late last week and early this week and the results were released this morning. Whether you believe the poll results or believe them to be an accurate representation is up to you. It's a pretty partisan measure. Again according to most polls I've read, about 2/3 of Dems are in favor and 2/3 of Repubs are apposed, but independent favor it 52 % to 34 %, Again, believe them or not, that's your choice
As far as comments, just like everything else, it depends on which sites you go to. There are sites where just the opposite is true. As I said, too close to call.
Just my opinion.
There were several polls in 2009 leading up to the Prop1a (-1g) tax hikes
(mainly from the so called Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), a SUPPOSEDLY nonprofit, nonpartisan think tank that is more left wing than they let on I think) all of those had 1a winning- they all lost. In fact 1a-1g were never behind in any of the PPIC polls and they all got creamed. I think the same is ahead for 30. We'll know in 3 days.
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